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Staro 29.08.2025., 10:48   #6271
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Sve mi se čini da će Intel trebati čudo da ih izvuče iz krize, a bojim se da su to ispucali s Core, Core Duo i Core 2 Duo procesorima dok su drugi kaskali za Intelom.
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Staro 29.08.2025., 11:08   #6272
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Trebali budu nekoliko čuda zaredom da se sve (1 - 2 - 3 - 4) kaj ih je snašlo donekle primiri i postepeno dovede u red, jer konkurencija i dalje nemilosrdno napreduje dok je u Intelu kaos.
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Staro 29.08.2025., 12:39   #6273
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Eto, kako sam i spomenuo, ona nizbrdica prema izlazu iz sobe na kojoj stoje direktorske fotelje je sve strmija.
Kako su tromi i spori, moglo bi im se desiti da ih jako brzo svi pregaze kao zebru na pješačkom prijelazu, pogotovo ako se TSMC bude držao svojih planova i najava.
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Staro 29.08.2025., 13:49   #6274
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Da, kak smo i komentirali, u Intelu bi rađe da se sve vrati na staro, jer za promjene (1 - 2) baš i nisu raspoloženi, dok TSMC za razliku od Intela sve planove sprovodi u djelo. Daniel Nenni u međuvremenu i dalje piše motivirajuće osvrte (1 - 2), koji sve više i više sliče plaćenim PR članicma, jer čak i kad iz Intela odlaze ključni ljudi, ovaj stručLJak se pravi kao da to nije (pre)veliki problem.
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Staro 29.08.2025., 14:00   #6275
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Znaš kak se veli: Tko izlazi zadnji, taj gasi svjetlo.
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Staro 29.08.2025., 15:35   #6276
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Tak bi i moglo ispasti, jer i dalje samo pričaju da će sljedeća generacija biti ona koja ih (možda potencijalno) vraća na vrh, makar djeluje kao da ni sami ne vjeruju u to kaj pričaju.
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Intel CFO David Zinsner said Thursday that it will take more than two years for the chipmaker to get its server CPU portfolio “where we want it to be” as CEO Lip-Bu Tan pushes for road map changes that he hopes will make it more competitive. Zinsner said Intel received $5.7 billion out of the total funds it’s expecting from the federal government last night. This, according to the CFO, boosted Intel’s balance sheet and “eliminated the need to access capital markets in any other way in the near term.”
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Staro 29.08.2025., 17:06   #6277
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Tak bi i moglo ispasti, jer i da će sljedeća generacija biti ona koja ih (možda potencijalno) vraća na vrh, makar djeluje kao da ni sami ne vjeruju u to kaj pričaju.
Tako pričaju već zadnjih 5 godina pa nikako da se vrate na vrh. Na njihovu žalost Apple je odavno odustao od Intela, AMD se vrti i u konzolama, ARM im odavno puše za vratom, a uskoro će i Nvidia.
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Staro 29.08.2025., 17:22   #6278
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Aha, najgore od svega kaj to uvijek pričaju ovakvi ko direktor financija i sl. koji su u Intelu svega dvije-tri godine i uredno se rotiraju zajedno s CEO garniturama.

Istovremeno im odlaze ljudi s nekoliko desetljeća staža u firmi, zaduženi i zaslužni za EMIB i Foveros tehnologije, ali njih će već netko s recepcije zamijeniti.
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Staro 01.09.2025., 07:20   #6279
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Još lako za EMIB i Foveros, ali mi nikako nije jasna njihova višegodišnja logika - idu napraviti CPU pa ubrzo ispadne sporiji od konkurencije, onda natrpaju još jezgri da bi dobili performanse, ali poraste potrošnja, u isto vrijeme konkurencija ih prešiša s novom tehnologijom, onda u Intelu shvate da moraju ići na novi proizvodni proces pa realiziraju novi CPU s kašnjenjem od barem godinu-dvije uz lošije performanse od očekivanih u pogledu performanse/potrošnja/zagrijavanje i tako u krug već par godina. Tako meni cijela priča izgleda u desktop segmentu. No, nadam se da će uz financijsku pomoć države uspjeti nešto složiti što će ih malo uzdignuti. Ono, kako sam već ranije spomenuo, nadao sam se da će barem prijenosna računala s Arc grafičkim karticama biti cjenovno konkurentna, ali to je daleko od realnosti.
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Nažalost nofci od države su samo kap u moru koliko Intelu zapravo treba da svoje proizvodne pogone dovede na TSMC nivo, a sad su im za ovih 5.7 milijardi koje su već dobili stavili dodatne klauzule koje im zabranjuju korištenje tih novaca za isplaćivanje dividendi i(li) otkup dionica, dok financijski direktor ponosno priča kak će sredstva biti od velike pomoći za sveukupnu bilancu. Tak da kak god se okrene, njima je svaki sljedeći kvartal uvijek ključan u tom začaranom krugu. Koliko im ova potencijalna SDC implementacija u nastavku ima smisla, ostaje za vidjeti, posebice kad su za 2028. već najavili da odustaju od hibridnog pristupa, odnosno nadolazeće arhitekture se više neće oslanjat na male (E) i velike (P) jezgre, dok istovremeno planiraju ponovo vratiti HT/SMT, jer su i tu skužili zajeb svojih bajnih odluka tokom godina.
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To maximize its CPU performance, Intel has filed a patent that describes a new way to boost single-thread performance by letting several smaller cores work together as if they were one larger core. Instead of chasing higher clock speeds or building ever-bigger cores, the idea is to dynamically fuse two or more physical cores so they cooperatively execute a single thread, while appearing to the operating system as a single logical core. The patent refers to this approach as Software Defined Super Cores, or SDC. The technique would split an instruction stream into chunks and hand those chunks to the fused cooperating cores. Those cores would coordinate closely, utilizing special buffers and fast communication paths to ensure correct memory ordering and data transfers. In heavier single-threaded cases, the processor can enter a fused mode, forming a "super core" that aggregates instructions per cycle without requiring higher voltage or frequency, which can improve performance per watt.

Keeping instructions in strict program order across multiple physical cores requires very low-latency inter-core messaging and careful synchronization, as well as scheduling the fused cores so they actually benefit real applications, which is a challenging software problem. Presumably, compiler magic would be needed to extract maximum bandwidth from this approach, which is something that made Intel's Itanium fail. If the approach can be made practical, it would give chip designers another way to scale single-thread performance beyond process shrinks and larger core designs. Whether we ever see an SDC design in shipping silicon will depend on the results of prototypes and how well operating systems and compilers can leverage the mode. Intel is constantly experimenting with new core architectures, but not everything makes it to volume production due to low feasibility.
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Staro 01.09.2025., 12:29   #6281
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Kad za 10g to netko uspješno implementira, to će biti the way to go. Skaliranje single-threada je odavno prilično minimalno.
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Valjda budu nekaj od svih tih silnih najava donekle i sproveli u djelo, dok se nadolazeći Nova Lake po svemu sudeći, bazira na dual-chiplet/tile + IOD/SoC dizajnu.
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Intel Nova Lake-S engineering sample runs 52 cores at 4.8GHz
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Intel's upcoming "Nova Lake-S" introduces a completely new microarchitecture and under-the-hood enhancements. However, the appearance of the latest shipping manifests indicates that Intel is ensuring its partners receive early samples to make necessary software/firmware optimizations. An early engineering sample confirms the appearance of test hardware in partner shipments, which means that Intel is already moving validation pieces to OEMs and cooling vendors so they can start tuning systems well ahead of qualification samples and mass production. The 52-core part is a tiled design that pairs two compute tiles with a single SoC tile. Each compute tile houses eight P-Cores based on Coyote Cove and 16 efficient E-Cores based on Arctic Wolf, while the SoC tile contributes four low-power Arctic Wolf LPE-cores. That gives Nova Lake-S a 16 P-Core, 32 E-Core, and 4 LPE-Core configuration totaling 52 cores for the top SKU, with single-tile variants offering a 28-core option.

As for SMT, just like Arrow Lake, the P-Cores on Nova Lake CPUs won't feature SMT support. The same core is also being used for Diamond Rapids. This is one generation that won't bring SMT to the table, though under Lip-Bu Tan, Intel is poised to bring it back with the future generation of server CPUs such as Coral Rapids, so the same would be the case for the desktop lineup. Razor Lake or a new family will likely reintroduce this feature.

Intel will also offer big-cache bLLC variants aimed at workloads that benefit from larger on-die caches. On the platform side, Nova Lake-S will use the LGA-1954 socket with a 45x37.5 mm footprint, which matches LGA-1851 sizing and should preserve broad cooler compatibility even if some vendors need offset plates or other tweaks for optimal contact. The P-cores will ship without SMT, following the same choice made for Arrow Lake, while Intel's cache-first bLLC approach looks intended to counter AMD's stacked 3D V-Cache strategy. For now, the 4.8 GHz reading comes from an engineering sample and Pre-QS shipments; expect clock speeds to be refined upward as QS samples roll out and Intel moves closer to a formal launch.
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Qualcomm Inc. Chief Executive Officer Cristiano Amon said Intel Corp.’s production technology isn’t currently good enough for the maker of mobile phone processors to use as a supplier. If Intel is able to advance its manufacturing techniques to produce more efficient chips, then Qualcomm would consider becoming a customer. “Intel is not an option today,” Amon said. “We would like Intel to be an option.” Instead, the CEO said Qualcomm will stick with current producers Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. and Samsung Electronics Co.
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Intel will continue to rely heavily on external foundries, using TSMC forever
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Intel plans to go green, and the first step is to pay the ongoing debts using U.S. CHIPS Act funds. Intel has shared its future strategy and discussed ongoing transformation efforts to reach financial stability, operational efficiency, and growth targets. The company is optimistic about its turnaround plan despite the numerous challenges ahead. The initial reception to these changes seems to be positive, as the stock jumped by about 2.54% today.

On Thursday, September 4, 2025, Intel presented a strategy overview at Citi’s 2025 Global Technology, Media and Telecommunications Conference. The discussion highlighted plans to de-leverage its balance sheet with investments from the U.S. Government and SoftBank. Starting with the $5.7bn of U.S. grant – $2.2 billion of which are already received – Intel plans to use these funds plus other proceeds from asset sales to pay back about $3.8bn of maturing debt this year. These assets include nearly $1 billion from the Mobileye stock sale, which should enhance the liquidity position. Chief Financial Officer, David Zinsner, has also told investors that Intel will continue putting certain products on TSMC’s wafers forever, as the company focuses on separating its design and foundry businesses to improve efficiency. This statement is not surprising considering 30% of the silicon comes from TSMC already. Intel will likely keep high-volume chips in its fabs, while placing others with TSMC. The idea is to grab more foundry customers while lowering near-term cash burn. Intel wants to set up its foundry business as a subsidiary to improve accountability, but won’t be selling more than 49% to external customers.

According to Zinsner, the initial $2.2 billion U.S. transaction was important for Intel, as it eliminated uncertainty around those grants. Furthermore, since these funds will translate into equity stakes for the U.S. Government, they represent a sort of endorsement of the brand, which should incentivise Intel to be successful, especially since the U.S. Government is expected to vote in line with the board’s recommendations. The remaining $3 billion grant, which is expected to be paid over the next couple of years, should further help Intel get back on its feet. Zinsner has also added that the firm’s Altera divestment will close in the upcoming weeks, providing an additional $3.5 billion. Not to forget Softbank’s $2 billion investment, which is pending regulatory approval.

All of these capital injections should notably strengthen Intel’s cash position, providing the financial flexibility to pursue its debt-reduction strategy. The company has apparently learned from previous mistakes, where it spent considerable money ahead of demand. For the near future, CEO, Lip-Bu Tan, seems to put a lot of confidence in the upcoming 14A process despite being more costly than 18A. That said, the company will only build 14A manufacturing capacity if it secures commitments from external customers. Intel’s Panther Lake CPUs are expected to launch by the end of the year, manufactured using the 18A process, with major offerings expected by 2028, leveraging the 14A node. The company will continue focusing on improving its product portfolio while enhancing pricing and market penetration. We shall see the fruits of these efforts soon.
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Intel's 'talent drain' isn't limited to lower-level employees; several of Team Blue's key figures, including those who played a key role in the Ohio facility, are departing from the firm. It is claimed that Kevin Hoggatt has been involved with Intel on the 'government relations' front, and on his LinkedIn post announcing his departure from the firm, Hoggatt revealed that he was in the groundbreaking ceremony of the Ohio One plant, accompanying President Biden. Moreover, he joined Intel's interim co-CEO David Zinsner as well on President Trump's inauguration, which shows that he had a vital role to play when it comes to establishing a 'collaborative' ground with US adminstrations.

Apart from Hoggatt, Toby Starr, who is the public affairs manager, has also departured Intel, along with construction site manager Sanjay Patel and senior Program Manager of the Foundry division Tom Marshall. Interestingly, it has been three years since the Ohio One fab was announced by Team Blue, and despite such a long time, there are little signs of starting high-end process production in the facility, which shows that the economic slowdown within Team Blue has started to affect the firm's chipmaking ambitions. It is claimed that the Ohio fab will not be operational until 2031, and the firm's Oregon facility is also facing issues concerning large-scale layoffs and investment cutbacks.
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Staro 12.09.2025., 09:36   #6283
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Na koji je ovo način različito od AM4 drloga koji se štancaju van danas?
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AMD drlog su i dalje pod nazivom koji su imali prije 5 godina.
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AM4 socket je orginalno izašel 2016., a do 2026. kad Intel izbaci (opet) novu LGA-1954 platformu za Nova Lake, šrot AM4 bude u međuvremenu aktivno provel već cijelo desetljeće na tržištu.

Dodatni zajeb je da na AM4 paše sve od orginalnih Zen modela, Zen+, Zen 2 i Zen 3, dok će AM5 uz Zen 4, Zen 5 i Zen 6, potencijalno udomiti i Zen 7.

Kakav god AMD šrot je u pitanju, nažalost to ne mijenja činjenicu da na AM4 i AM5 paše (po)koja stotina razno-raznih Zen CPU izdanja.
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nVidia and Intel announce jointly developed 'Intel x86 RTX SOCs' for PCs, also custom data center x86 processors — nVidia buys $5 billion in Intel stock
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In a surprising announcement that finds two long-time rivals working together, nVidia and Intel announced today that the companies would jointly develop multiple new generations of x86 products together. The products include x86 Intel CPUs tightly fused with an nVidia RTX graphics chiplet for the consumer gaming PC market, named the ‘Intel x86 RTX SOCs.’ nVidia will also have Intel build custom x86 data center CPUs for its AI products for hyperscale and enterprise customers. nVidia also announced that it will buy $5 billion in Intel common stock at $23.28 per share. We spoke with nVidia representatives to learn more details about the company’s plans.

nVidia emphasized that the companies are committed to multi-generation roadmaps for the co-developed products, which represents a strong investment in the x86 ecosystem. However, nVidia tells us it also remains fully committed to its other announced product roadmaps and architectures, including for its Arm-based GB10 Grace Blackwell processors for workstations and the nVidia Grace CPUs for data centers and the next-gen Vera CPUs. nVidia says it also remains committed to products on its internal roadmaps that haven’t been publicly disclosed yet, indicating that the new roadmap with Intel will merely be additive to its existing initiatives. For the PC market, the Intel x86 RTX SoC chips will come with an x86 CPU chiplet tightly connected with an nVidia RTX GPU chiplet via the NVLink interface. This type of processor will have both the CPU and GPU units merged into one compact chip package that externally looks much like a standard CPU, rivaling AMD’s competing APU products.

This type of tight integration packs all the gaming prowess into one package without an external discrete GPU, providing power and footprint advantages. As such, these chips will be heavily focused on thin-and-light gaming laptops and small form-factor PCs, much like today’s APUs from AMD. However, it’s possible the new nVidia/Intel chips could come in multiple flavors and permeate further into the Intel stack over time. Intel has worked on a similar type of chip before with AMD; however, there is at least one significant technical difference between these initiatives. Intel launched its Kaby Lake-G chip in 2017 with an Intel processor fused into the same package with an AMD Radeon GPU chiplet, much the same as the description of the new nVidia/Intel chips.

Intel will fabricate custom x86 data center CPUs for nVidia, which nVidia will then sell as its own products to enterprise and data center customers. However, the entirety and extent of the modification are currently unknown. We do know that nVidia will employ its NVLink interface, which tells us the chips could leverage nVidia’s new NVLink Fusion tech that enables custom CPUs and accelerators to enable faster, more efficient communication with nVidia’s GPUs than found with the PCIe interface. Intel has long offered custom Xeons to its customers, primarily hyperscalers, often with relatively minor tweaks to clock rates, cache capacities, and other specifications. In fact, these mostly slightly-modified custom Xeon models once comprised more than 50% of Intel’s Xeon shipments. Intel has endured several years of market share erosion due to AMD’s advances, most acutely in the hyperscale market. Therefore, it is unclear if the 50% number still holds true, as hyperscalers were the primary customers for custom models.
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Alibaba, ByteDance, and other Chinese technology companies are barred from purchasing nVidia’s latest AI chips custom-made for China. The Cyberspace Administration of China (CAC), the country’s top internet regulator, has reportedly banned its biggest tech companies, including ByteDance and Alibaba, from buying nVidia’s AI chips.
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Laganih 5 milijardi za Intel dionice, dok nVidia muku muči s Kinom koja se sve više oslanja na vlastita rješenja.
Hajde da i Intelovi fanovi okuse malo sreće u životu, pet minuta veselja, lol. Zadnjih nekoliko godina čitaju samo negativne vijesti.
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Ovo je super vijest, a i vrijednost Intelovih dionica je u stalnom porastu, ne nazire im se kraj. IMHO nekak se čini da je Jensen Huang tijekom onih milijunskih večera s preCednikom slobodnog svijeta dobil savjet/uvjet da uloži neki dinar u Intel, mada realno nemaju potrebu, pošto njihova ARM rješenja nude i više, nego dovoljno dobru alternativu za x86 društvo. Makar, kak god se okrene, Intelu ova suradnja treba više nego nVidiji, pa svakak nije loše da Jensen s nikad jačim monopolom sudjeluje u spašavanju ovog Intelovog, tako da nam kasnije svima bude bolje, jer bez konkurencije nema napretka.
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saće precednik "porazgovarat" i s proizvođačima xboxa i playstationa da ubace "njegove" procesore u nove modele....


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ntel shares soared as much as 28% on Thursday after the firm announced that Nvidia had agreed to invest $5 billion in the company and co-develop chips for PCs and data centers.
The US government's stake in Intel is valued at about $14 billion, a $4.9 billion gain on paper since the deal was inked in August.
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Svako malo se kod njega rotiraju razni gosti iz svijeta tehnike, samo se prije dogovore koji i kakav danak mu moraju osigurati i to je to.

Svi sretni i zadovoljni - inače dobe otkaz ko u njegovoj skriptiranoj "reality" emisiji za koju misli da se još uvijek vrti.
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Moram priznat da se bojim da AMD ne izgubi deal.... imam meko srce za underdogs...
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Ne može AMD tu ništa realno napraviti, makar danas kao firma stoje bolje nego ikad prije, ali ako dođe komanda s vrha (dok se igra golf na Floridi) da se kupuje/koristi samo domaće (makar je i AMD američka firma, ali nije u tom elitnom klubu), tj. isključivo Intel + nVidia, ćao đaci kaj se AMD-a tiče. Lako za šrot AMD, samo da se ovi u Intelu kasnije na čude kaj se desilo, pa se ispostavi da je nVidia ovih 5% udjela u firmi, lijepo iskoristila za asimilaciju svega kaj još valja u Intelu, a bome ARC divizija, odnosno ono kaj je preostalo bi s ovom najavom lagano mogla dobiti ključ u bravu.
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Moguće da Intel postane puno bolji u integriranoj grafici u svojim procesorima, dosadašnja rješenja nisu bila osobito impresivna, no sad bi stvari definitivno mogle postati zanimljive.
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Suradnja Intela i nVidije traje već nekih godinu dana, pa iako je današnja vijest došla kao "grom iz vedra neba" izgleda da ona to ipak i nije, nego su samo čekali prikladan trenutak za objavu: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-comp...nership-at-all

Kako se stvar odvija već cca godinu dana, dakle za vrijeme Gelsingera su procesi pokrenuti, možda je čovjek imao čak i ispravnu viziju kamo usmjeriti firmu, samo korporativna Amerika i dioničari nemaju strpljenja i razumijevanja nego traže rezultate jučer, a svako kvartalno negativno financijsko izvješće i pad cijene dionica uzrokuje neki % povećanja stope samoubojstava, što je domena "American psycho" ludila, no tako, malo karikirano, business tamo funkcionira...
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Pitanje je kaj je od toga kaj sad pričaju zapravo istina, jer sve ove vijesti o suradnji unatrag godinu dana su došle nakon upita o tome koliko je aktualna politička garnitura imala prste u svemu.

Gelsinger je u nebrojeno navrata iskoristil priliku da spomene kako se nVidiji posrećilo s CUDA-om, tak da taj bivši direktor baš i nije neko mjerilo za vizije.

IMHO nakon svih onih večera, nVidiji je "sugerirano" da povuče ovaj potez, a sve kaj se sad priča je samo PR za širu javnost.
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Huang insisted, it’s not a strategic shift away from the newer Arm architecture towards the venerable x86, which has driven PCs and servers for decades. “We’re fully committed to the Arm roadmap, we have lots and lots of customers for Arm,” he said, adding later that “this doesn’t affect any of that.” Nor is it a shift from TSMC to Intel as manufacturing partner for nVidia’s chips — Huang quickly turned to effuse praise for TSMC as soon as a reporter asked — or about manufacturing in the US. Instead, over the course of the 40-minute call, nVidia and Intel basically said they were going to eat AMD’s lunch. AMD is the one chipmaker that competes with both Intel and nVidia, and it’s long been competitive in one hugely important way: while Intel has always specialized in CPUs, and nVidia has always specialized in GPUs, AMD does both, and it’s become very good at putting both into the same chip.
I tak, ovo da žele sjebati AMD već ima malo više smisla od ostalih pizdarija koje su izbacili u javnost.
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In the future, Intel will make CPUs with nVidia graphics inside — among other things, nVidia CEO Jensen Huang confirmed today that Nvidia will contribute “GPU chiplets” that Intel can place alongside its x86 CPU cores instead of the Arc integrated graphics it develops in-house today. Intel says that doesn’t mean Intel’s own graphics are going away.
Super, a tko točno bude pored GeForce rješenja uopće razomtril ARC modele koji se ionako nisu pokazali popularni kod kritike i poblike. Lagano se zavaravaju s ovim izjavama.
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OK, kaj se nadolazećih procesora tiče, tamo negdje 2025., pa nadalje bi Intel kod TSMC-a trebal (zajedno s AMD-om i nVidiom) proizvoditi svoje CPU i GPU modele, a onda kad budu svi na istom naprednom proizvodnom procesu - ostaje im jedino arhitektura koja će činiti konkretnu razliku. Odnosno u godinama koje dolaze, Intel će se vrlo vjerojatno naći u situaciji u kojoj su AMD-ATi i nVidia posljednih 20 godina, pa uredno koriste TSMC-ove pogone, dok se međusobno razlikuju u arhitekturama i pripadajućem napretku. TSMC-u pak totalno svejedno, ionako proizvode za druge, a dokle god ovi imaju novaca - sve super i sve 5.
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Ne velim da budu propali, već da budu s vremenom narudžbe za nove i postojeće proizvode polako, ali sigurno sve manje i manje, ako se ozbiljno ne okrenu u nekom novom pravcu. Ili bude ih kupila nVidia, pa da vidiš veselja.
Prokleti bili postovi otprije pola desetljeća.
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Sve što kažeš zvuči smisleno i lako moguće da se stvari baš tako i odvijaju, no ovaj joint venture s nvidijom bi mogla ispasti jedna jako dobra priča na kraju od koje će potrošači imati najviše koristi. Budući da je opće poznato kako zadnjih godina Intel dosta zaostaje s AMD-om i dosta su bili pogubljeni u vremenu i prostoru, rekao bih da je ovako nešto ono što im treba da opet budu ravnopravni na tržištu.

No trebat će se još strpiti, tamo negdje ne prije 2028. se mogu očekivati baš konkretne i sasvim nove stvari, nova arhitektura cpu-a koja će napustiti koncept P i E jezgri o čemu si pisao već a do tad će vjerojatno i izbaciti tj. ubaciti nvidijino rješenje grafike u CPU i to će biti zanimljivo vidjeti kako će ispasti. Kako god bilo, kad ima volje ima i načina kako se kaže, pa ako su okupili neki dobar zajednički tim inženjera koji će si dati truda napraviti nešto što će biti pravi iskorak, tim bolje za sve na kraju, tržište, tehnologiju, krajnje korisnike. Nitko ne spori da je AMD napravio odličan posao sa svojom Zen arhitekturom no bila bi šteta da to bude jedina opcija.
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Da, budemo vidjeli kaj bude na kraju ispalo od te suradnje, jer trenutno je mobilni Panther Lake uz ARC iGPU predviđen za 2026., dok desktop Nova Lake uz ARC iGPU stiže tek početkom 2027., odnosno pomaknuli su te platforme za kakvih pola godine. Nakon toga, mobilni Titan Lake tijekom 2028. izlazi kao prvo rješenje koje koristi GeForce iGPU, a kasnije tijekom 2029. stiže desktop Hammer Lake koji također koristi GeForce iGPU. Naravno, pod uvjetom da se stvarno i drže tih zacrtanih planova, jer nVidia je svoj dio itekak sposobna sprovesti u djelo, dok se u Intelu češće nego rjeđe izokrenu naglavačke.
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