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tomek@vz · 27.11.2025., 18:41

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Well folks, it’s the beginning of a new era: after nearly three decades of KDE desktop environments running on X11, the future KDE Plasma 6.8 release will be Wayland-exclusive! Support for X11 applications will be fully entrusted to Xwayland, and the Plasma X11 session will no longer be included.
↫ The Plasma Team

domy_os · 27.11.2025., 18:54

Znači negdje do verzije 12 ću izbjegavati KDE...

tomek@vz · 27.11.2025., 22:32

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Znači negdje do verzije 12 ću izbjegavati KDE...

Zasto? Koristim Wayland zadnje 2 godine na lapu (nvidia) i stolnoj masini (amd) te na malom prijenosnom sticku sa vlastitom linux distrom koju piknem u bilo sto da imam svoj komp na raspolaganju i nemam primjedbi na Wayland zadnjih godinu dana iskreno.

domy_os · 28.11.2025., 07:11

Onda su možda ispeglali sve mušice. Posljednje tri godine sam primarno na Windowsima, a prije toga isprobao Wayland i to nije bilo upotrebljivo pa ostao na X11. Fractional scaling isto radi dobro?

tomek@vz · 28.11.2025., 08:03

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Onda su možda ispeglali sve mušice. Posljednje tri godine sam primarno na Windowsima, a prije toga isprobao Wayland i to nije bilo upotrebljivo pa ostao na X11. Fractional scaling isto radi dobro?

Nemoj zaboraviti da je 6 mjeseci za Linux ko 1 godina za Windows....stosta se moze izmjeniti. Fractional Scaling ...na Fedori i Archu - Gnome i KDE - nikad problema

Debian testing branch jos uvijek po defaultu u Gnome ne nudi opciju, KDE nisam vec duze isprobao. Sa ostalim distrama se nisam zamarao.

tomek@vz · 28.11.2025., 16:09

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The HQspinlock is described in Thursday's patch proposal as:

Citiraj:

"In a high contention case, existing Linux kernel spinlock implementations can become inefficient on modern NUMA-systems due to frequent and expensive cross-NUMA cache-line transfers.

This might happen due to following reasons:
- on "contender enqueue" each lock contender updates a shared lock structure
- on "MCS handoff" cross-NUMA cache-line transfer occurs when two contenders are from different NUMA nodes.

We introduce Hierarchical Queued Spinlock (HQ spinlock), aiming to reduce cross-NUMA cache line traffic and thus improving lock/unlock throughput for high-contention cases.

This idea might be considered as a combination of cohort-locking by Dave Dice and Linux kernel queued spinlock."

> HQspinlock Proposal For Linux Shows Very Nice Performance Benefits For Large Servers

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Lucas De Marchi sent in the latest batch of Xe driver fixes today ahead of the Linux 6.18 stable release expected this weekend. In that Direct Rendering Manager pull request he noted:

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"Here are the fixes towards 6.18. This is also my last pull request as xe maintainer as I'm leaving Intel. Patch to the MAINTAINERS files will be merged soon. Rodrigo and Thomas will continue sending the fixes if we don't have a release this week."

> One Of Intel's Xe Open-Source Linux Graphics Driver Maintainers Is Departing

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Qualcomm's Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5 achieves a historic milestone with same-day upstream Linux support, eliminating the lag between hardware release and software adoption. This deep dive explores how this shift challenges x86 dominance, empowers the industrial IoT sector, and redefines the economics of long-term device support.

The synchronized release of silicon and software definitions represents a radical departure from the fragmented development cycles that have historically plagued the ARM ecosystem, effectively eliminating the technical debt that previously stifled innovation in non-Android markets.

> Silicon Synchronicity: How Qualcomm’s Day-Zero Linux Support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5 Rewrites the Rules of Hardware Adoption

domy_os · 28.11.2025., 20:13

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Nemoj zaboraviti da je 6 mjeseci za Linux ko 1 godina za Windows....stosta se moze izmjeniti. Fractional Scaling ...na Fedori i Archu - Gnome i KDE - nikad problema

Debian testing branch jos uvijek po defaultu u Gnome ne nudi opciju, KDE nisam vec duze isprobao. Sa ostalim distrama se nisam zamarao.

Kako za koji feature ili bug, često je i obratno. Krenimo baš od tog fractional scalinga koji je podržan otkad ono? Windowsi su debelo napredniji što se toga tiče. Zatim razvoj aplikacija, drivera, power management, HW encoding videa dugo nije radio,... Dosta bi se o tome moglo pisati.

tomek@vz · 28.11.2025., 22:55

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Kako za koji feature ili bug, često je i obratno. Krenimo baš od tog fractional scalinga koji je podržan otkad ono? Windowsi su debelo napredniji što se toga tiče. Zatim razvoj aplikacija, drivera, power management, HW encoding videa dugo nije radio,... Dosta bi se o tome moglo pisati.

Naravno, vidi gore slucaj koji je imao Mario92. Podrska ili PUNA podrska za odredeni hardwer je cesto Ahilova peta Linux strane. Al to je opet ona prica koke i jajeta a pile se izgubilo na raznju.

radi.neradi · Jučer, 04:28

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Zvuk u igrama magično radi ako napravim sljedeće:
Upalim browser, pustim yt, krene muzika
Upalim igru, također krene zvuk iz igre
Alt-tabam se u browser i pauziram yt

Vidi šta alsactl i pw-* alati kažu, možda primarno pw-cli, pw-dump, pw-metadata i pw-mon. Možda i pw-top. Pokušaj dumpati stanje odnosno parametre - kada zvuk ne radi i kada radi, pa napravi diff.

https://docs.pipewire.org/page_programs.html

pw-metadata ima -m = Keeps running and log the changes to the metadata.
pw-dump ima -m = Monitor PipeWire state changes, and output JSON arrays describing changes.

Prvo izlistaj sve parametre sa dump ili metadata. Zatim istraži node.pause-on-idle i node.suspend parametre koje možeš primjenit sa pw-metadata. Ako proradi, na nekoliko mjesta po internetu piše da su to Lua skripte unutar WirePlumber-a, i da dosta ljudi ima kojekakvih problema sa odlaskom uređaja u nekakav suspend mode.

Bono · Jučer, 22:01

Today, though, Ars testing on the Lenovo Legion Go S finds recent games generally run at higher frame rates on SteamOS 3.7 than on Windows 11. The performance advantage is yet another way that Valve’s upstart OS is differentiating itself from the “default” Windows installation used by most PC gamers for decades now.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2025/...testing-finds/

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tomek@vz · Danas, 07:14

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"By my count, Linux has over 11% of the desktop market," writes ZDNet's Steven Vaughan-Nichols:

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In StatCounter's latest US numbers, which cover through October, Linux shows up as only 3.49%. But if you look closer, "unknown" accounts for 4.21%. Allow me to make an educated guess here: I suspect those unknown desktops are actually running Linux. What else could it be? FreeBSD? Unix? OS/2? Unlikely. In addition, ChromeOS comes in at 3.67%, which strikes me as much too low. Leaving that aside, ChromeOS is a Linux variant. It just uses the Chrome web browser for its interface rather than KDE Plasma, Cinnamon, or another Linux desktop environment. Put all these together, and you get a Linux desktop market share of 11.37%...

If you want to look at the broader world of end-user operating systems, including phones and tablets, Linux comes out even better. In the US, where we love our Apple iPhones, Android — yes, another Linux distro — boasts 41.71% of the market share, according to StatCounter's latest numbers. Globally, however, Android rules with 72.55% of the market. Yes, that's right, if you widen the Linux end-user operating system metric to include PC, tablets, and smartphones, you can make a reasonable argument that Linux, and not Windows, is already the top dog operating system...

If you add Chrome OS (1.7%) and Android (15.8%), 23.3% of all people accessing the U.S. government's websites are Linux users. The Linux kernel's user-facing footprint is much larger than the "desktop Linux" label suggests.

The article lists reasons more people might be switching to Linux, including broader hardware support and "the increased viability of gaming via Steam and Proton" — but also the rise of Digital Sovereignty initiatives. (One EU group has even created EU OS.")

And finally, "not everyone is thrilled with Windows 11 being turned into an AI-agentic operating system."

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The Free Software Foundation describes how "After months of preparation and excitement, we finally came together on November 21 for a global online hackathon to support free software projects and "put a spotlight on the difficult and often thankless work that free software hackers carry out..."

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Based on how many of you dropped in over the weekend and were incredibly engaged in the important work that is improving free software, either as a spectator or as a participant, this goal was accomplished. And it's all thanks to you!

Friday started a little rocky with a datacenter outage affecting most FSF services. Participants spread out to work on six different free software projects over forty-eight hours as our tech team worked to restore all FSF sites with the help and support of the community. Over three hundred folks were tuned in at a time, some to participate in the hackathon and others to follow the progress being made. As a community, we got a lot done over the weekend...

It was amazing to see so many of you take a little (or a lot of!) time out of your busy schedules to improve free software, and we're incredibly grateful for each and every one of you. It really energizes us and shows us how much we can accomplish when we work together over even just a couple days. Not only was this a fantastic sight to see because of the work we got done, but it was also a very fitting way to conclude our fortieth anniversary celebration events. Free software has been and always will be a community effort, one that continues to get better and better because of the dedicated developers, contributors, and users who ensure its existence. Thank you for celebrating forty years of the FSF and fighting for a freer future for us all.

strikoo · Danas, 20:47

tomek@vz · Danas, 22:34

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Cringe....Linus S. postaje ocajan.

The Exiled · Danas, 23:03

Huh, jedan ima apartić i fuflja (makar ga je i inače melem za čuti i vidjeti), a drugi se s gebisom lagano gubi sa "što je pjesnik htio reći" pogledom u očima, dok sat vremena vode ovu skriptiranu TopShop/Delimano TV prodaju. KanCaki Linus se zajebal kad je imal priliku, pa nije prihvatil ponudu od 100 milijuna da proda LTT/LMG, tak da se danas više, nego ikad oslanja na MrBeastifikaciju kompletnog sadržaja. Glavno da se za sve unaprijed uzmu nofci od sponzora. Likovi su čak i za ovaj video morali u komentare dodati ispravak.

27.11.2025., 18:54	#4832
domy_os EMP moderator Datum registracije: Apr 2005 Lokacija: Osijek Postovi: 18,929	Znači negdje do verzije 12 ću izbjegavati KDE... __________________ "Kako su krojači novog svjetskog poretka uspjeli u tako kratko vrijeme slomiti intelektualne sposobnosti društva, uništiti kritičku svijest i ljudima nametnuti izvrnutu logiku?"

28.11.2025., 07:11	#4834
domy_os EMP moderator Datum registracije: Apr 2005 Lokacija: Osijek Postovi: 18,929	Onda su možda ispeglali sve mušice. Posljednje tri godine sam primarno na Windowsima, a prije toga isprobao Wayland i to nije bilo upotrebljivo pa ostao na X11. Fractional scaling isto radi dobro? __________________ "Kako su krojači novog svjetskog poretka uspjeli u tako kratko vrijeme slomiti intelektualne sposobnosti društva, uništiti kritičku svijest i ljudima nametnuti izvrnutu logiku?"

Jučer, 22:01	#4840
Bono Uptime 99.99% Moj komp Datum registracije: Nov 2001 Lokacija: Zagreb Postovi: 2,688	Today, though, Ars testing on the Lenovo Legion Go S finds recent games generally run at higher frame rates on SteamOS 3.7 than on Windows 11. The performance advantage is yet another way that Valve’s upstart OS is differentiating itself from the “default” Windows installation used by most PC gamers for decades now. https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2025/...testing-finds/ Sent from my SM-S931B using Tapatalk __________________ “Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”

Danas, 23:03	#4844
The Exiled McG Moj komp Datum registracije: Feb 2014 Lokacija: Varaždin Postovi: 8,490	Huh, jedan ima apartić i fuflja (makar ga je i inače melem za čuti i vidjeti), a drugi se s gebisom lagano gubi sa "što je pjesnik htio reći" pogledom u očima, dok sat vremena vode ovu skriptiranu TopShop/Delimano TV prodaju. KanCaki Linus se zajebal kad je imal priliku, pa nije prihvatil ponudu od 100 milijuna da proda LTT/LMG, tak da se danas više, nego ikad oslanja na MrBeastifikaciju kompletnog sadržaja. Glavno da se za sve unaprijed uzmu nofci od sponzora. Likovi su čak i za ovaj video morali u komentare dodati ispravak. __________________ AMD Ryzen 9 9950X \| Noctua NH-U12A chromax.black \| MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk Wi-Fi \| 128GB Kingston FURY Beast DDR5-5200 \| 256GB AData SX8200 Pro NVMe \| 2x4TB WD Red Plus \| Fractal Define 7 Compact \| Seasonic GX-750 AMD Ryzen 5 7600 \| Noctua NH-U12A chromax.black \| MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk Wi-Fi \| 128GB Kingston FURY Beast DDR5-5200 \| 256GB AData SX8200 Pro NVMe \| 2x12TB WD Red Plus \| Fractal Define 7 Compact \| eVGA 650 B5 AMD Ryzen 5 7600 \| Scythe Kotetsu SCKTT-1000 \| MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk Wi-Fi \| 64GB Kingston FURY Beast DDR5-5200 \| 256GB AData SX8200 Pro NVMe \| 2x14TB WD Red Pro \| Fractal Define 7 Compact \| Seasonic SSR-550PX

Danas, 20:47	#4842
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