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Staro 19.12.2024., 11:38   #1
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Problem nakon instalacije windows 11

Dobio sam drugi laptop na kojega sam instalirao windows 11, ali imam veliki problem, nema interneta i nigdje nema ikonice za spajanje na moj ruter.
Probao sam instalirat i na drugi laptop, sve je prošlo bez problema, ali i tamo ista stvar, nigdje ikonice za connect
Zna li ko u čemu je problem
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Da, trebas drivere za mreznu.
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Staro 19.12.2024., 12:09   #3
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Ali nije mi jasno, windows 10 mi sve drivere instaliraju sami, a ovi win 11 ne instaliraju.
Druga stvar, nigdje nema nekog browsera (internet explorer i sl.)
pretražio sam na C: program files i program files (x86) ali nema nigdje

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Ali nije mi jasno, windows 10 mi sve drivere instaliraju sami, a ovi win 11 ne instaliraju.
Da citas postove, vidio bi vec x takvih situacija za win 11.
https://forum.pcekspert.com/showthread.php?t=321140
Nakon instalacije imas na desktopu 2 ikone. Kantu i Microsoft Edge.

Ako nemas, onda ti je image neki ljevi.
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Staro 19.12.2024., 14:11   #5
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Ok razumijem, pročitao sam to, nego oču reč da bi windows 10 sam instalirao sve drivere automatski, a Windows 11 traži da sami instaliramo drivere. To me onda vraća u prošlost kad smo morali sami tražit sve drivere po internetu i ručno ih instalirat
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Hjoo, nikad winsi nisu imali sve drivere, a sad dramis zbog 1 drivera.

I jos se cudis tome. Pojedini modeli ni za win 10 nisu imali.

Ali danas je to par min posla kad imas opremu. (Citaj tp-link usb wireless od 10€)

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Staro 19.12.2024., 14:28   #7
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staviš drajver na usb, i tokom instalacije windowsa povučeš ga i instalira (Z790 chipset)
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Laptop je "Acer aspire 7736ZG " i išao sam tražiti driver za njega ali nema za windows 11, a ima za win 10, 8, 7 itd
Shit znači moraču se vratit na win 10
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Staro 19.12.2024., 20:43   #9
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Ne nužno, odradi slijedeće:
- otvori Device manager i u njemu Unknown grupu
- za svaku stavku otvori Properties i nađi Device / Hardware ID
- to iskopiraš stavku po stavki i stavi u slijedeći post

Sa tom informacijom ćeš / čemo točno znati koji hw je u lapu i koji nema odg. drajver.
Dovoljno bi bilo pogoditi od Lan i WiFi kartice, da to instaliraš,
a kad Lap dohvati Internet onda bi update mogao odraditi svoje.

Još jedan detalj, osim ako M$ idioti nisu i to pokvarili, prije je bilo moguće manualno instalirati za "stariju generaciju winsa,
dakle, kroz Device manager .... pokažeš folder / inf file sa drajverom za W10 x64 za taj hw.

EDIT: Taj lap nije za W11, taman za W7 sa kojim je i prodavan, W10 vjerojatno "nekako" radi.

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Laptop je "Acer aspire 7736ZG " i išao sam tražiti driver za njega ali nema za windows 11, a ima za win 10, 8, 7 itd
Shit znači moraču se vratit na win 10

A zašto si pobogu uopće išao instalirat 11 na tu krntiju?
W11 ima visoke hardverske zahtijeve s dobrim razlogom.



Instaliraj W10 LTSC i mirna bosna do 2032.
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Svi drajveri za Windows 10 bi trebali raditi na Windows 11. Neke možda samo treba ručno odpakirati i instalirati kroz device manager a ne kroz instaler koji dolazi s drajverima.
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Staro 20.12.2024., 13:10   #12
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naguraj mu u compatibility modu drivere

ili kroz device manager , ali bas odaberi drivere za 10ku

Ovaj ti podatak treba za nac drivere


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Staro 20.12.2024., 13:51   #14
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Ubodi mobitel u komp, zašeraj internet preko USBa, kad se spoji na net Windowsi će sami skupiti drivere koji im fale.
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Staro 20.12.2024., 16:37   #15
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Skini punu verziju (cca 14G) stavi na stick i ubodi u taj lap i instaliraj drivere i bok.
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Staro 20.12.2024., 18:13   #16
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Eto su kolege predložile par rješenja:

- ova varijanta da "mobitel u komp, zašeraj internet preko USB - a" je elegantna ako to uspije proraditi .... moglo bi potrajati dok update winsa povuče šta treba ...

- SDI (Snappy Driver Installer) je bio odličan alat za ovakve stvari ali je u nekom momentu počeo uvaljivati i sumljivi sw,
srećom postoji "čisti" fork a to je SDIO (Snappy Driver Installer Orgin) > https://www.snappy-driver-installer.org/
nakon šta se Dl osnovni dio (program) treba povući driver pakete ....
sve to treba odraditi na nekom usb stick - u i na kompu koji ima pristup netu,
tek sa tako pripremljenim stick - om se može instalirati drajvere koji fale kao kod kolege sa početka teme

- da bi skratili muke, vrati se na #12 post, prva slika,
99% da je pod stavkom "Ethernet Controller" mrežna kartica,
za nju otvori Details, izaberi Hardware Ids i dobiti ćeš kao primjer kolege mrva_zg,
tu sliku stavi pa možeš(mo) dalje.

Kada nađemo koja je mrežna i odg. drajver pa to instaliraš si "na konju",
spojit ćeš Lap na router Lan kabelom i onda bi update winsa trebao odraditi svoje.
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Staro 20.12.2024., 21:46   #17
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Staro 20.12.2024., 22:00   #18
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Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5723 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe 14e4:165b


Našao sam ovako nešto od della: https://www.dell.com/support/home/en...driverid=04vk6
Ili možda ovo: https://drivers.softpedia.com/get/NE...er-17200.shtml
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Da, to je Broadcom NetLink (TM) Gigabit Ethernet
PCI\VEN_14E4&DEV_16B5&SUBSYS_06471025

Jedno od rješenja, otvoriš M$ update catalog > https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/
ubaciš gore navedeni Hardware ID i dobiješ > https://www.catalog.update.microsoft...UBSYS_06471025
lupiš Preuzimanje i negdje snimiš dobiveni cab file,
svaki normalni program za baratanje arhivama zna otvoriti cab file,
to raspakiraj u neki folder i prebaci na usb stick,
taj stick ubodi u Lap, Device manager, opet odaberi "Ethernet Controller", tab Driver,
Have disk i odvedi ga na fokder na stiku sa *.inf fajlom.

Drugo rješenje, ne pitaj kako sam ga pronašao,
da ti bude lakše skini ovo > https://file.io/U4UhGaWHvVNS
to će ti dati win_k57_x64-15.6.0.2.zip u kojem je drajver.

Oba prijedloga su provjerena i u njima je x64 drajver za tu mrežnu.
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Vidiš ovaj catalog djeluje baš korisno Skoro da požalim da sam otkantao windowse. Skoro.
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Evo sam skinuo taj "win_k57_x64" i pomoću Device managera ga uspješno instalirao i pojavilo se dole prikazano
Ali opet nema nigdje ikonice za Connect na moj ruter

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Nema, ne treba posebna ikonica,
samo ti spoji Lan kabelom na router i sačekaj neko kratko vrijeme.
Otvori browser i u njemu Google.
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Nema, ne treba posebna ikonica,
samo ti spoji Lan kabelom na router i sačekaj neko kratko vrijeme.
Otvori browser i u njemu Google.
Shit
E kad bi imao Lan kabel
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Ok, ali čudi me da nema nigdje Browsera, stvarno za nevjerovat koji problemi sa win 11.
Windows 8 i windows 10 sve drivere automatski instaliralia ovi tolike probleme
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Ok, ali čudi me da nema nigdje Browsera, stvarno za nevjerovat koji problemi sa win 11.
Windows 8 i windows 10 sve drivere automatski instaliralia ovi tolike probleme

Novi OS > nova pravila igre > novi konstrukt. Get over it ili stavi 10-tku ili nekaj kaj tvojem poimanju nacina funkcioniranja OS-a radi kak spada. Da ne kukas toliko i otvorenije slusas prijedloge kolega vec bi odavno rijesio ovako jednostavan problem.
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Kako nema browsera? Edge je većim dijelom integriran u operativni, nije ga baš toliko lagano deinstalirati. Moguće da je cijela ova gungula oko "nema ikonice za spajanje na ruter" zapravo znači kako nema wifi. Što bi značilo da je puno truda uloženo u iznalaženje drivera za krivi uređaj

Pretpostavljam da je ovaj "network controller" predmetni WIFI adapter za kojeg treba ponoviti proceduru i naći driver. Prilika za popravni.
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E pa to je najčudnije šta nema browsera, nema ga u taskbaru ni u program files
Evo pogledaj
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Ja iskreno pojma nemam u koji direktorij bude instaliran Edge. Kažeš ako tražiš "Edge" u start meniju nema ničega? Ako potražiš "default applications", što stoji pod Browser?

Koji je izvor tog instalacijskog image od 11 kojeg si koristio? Ima toga na internetu tona, neki vjerojatno miču i drivere da optimiziraju veličinu, pa onda otpadne stariji hardware.

Kako bilo, pitanje skidanja instalera od browsera na stick je trivijalno i samo gubimo vrijeme. Jedno te istu proceduru s kojom si skinuo driver za LAN trebaš ponoviti da bi skinuo driver za WLAN/WIFI. "Network controller" je jamačno predmetni uređaj, uzmi njegov ID, odi na catalog kako je nikki prije napravio i instaliraj. To je alternativa spajanju preko kabela na ruter.

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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Staro 22.12.2024., 14:42   #30
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Možda je kolega skinuo neku "lite" verziju windowsa?
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