Catalyst 3.8 + R 9700/9800 pale monitore

[CatKiller]

It seems like the new driver series is attempting to pass way too many unsupported resolution/refresh rates to the monitor, overloading the monitor's relay system and frying the monitor. Instead of reading the refresh rates from the PRIMARY display INF files, it is reading the SECONDARY display INF refresh rates. For those of us with only 1 monitor hooked up, there is no SECONDARY display INF refresh rate file, so the video card starts at its own highest supported refresh rate and starts passing that onto the monitor. With Radeon 9800/9700's capable of syncing @ a refresh rate of up to 200 Hz, that means 99% of the world's monitors are at risk of damage.

...tako da bi bilo najbolje da vlasnici 9700/9800 ostanu na starijim driverima.

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Source : http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...0&pagenumber=1

[Kova]

Bemti, dobro da imam 9500 heheh

[sNNooPY]

whow...to sucka...al ja nemam problema sa svojom r9000. btw, iz svih postova vezanih za 3.8 moze se zakljuciti da su driveri sjebantus... i da treba cekat 3.9 koji ce VALJDA (tj. bi trebao) popravit sve. ostaje nam cekat...

[Veky]

Nemam problema na 9500.

Ni paljenje monitora ni satro pregrijavanje.

[CatKiller]

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...eadid=33717516

Evo , ne samo da kuri monitore nego i diže temperaturu GPUa i PCBa do 10C

BTW Bila je na anandtech.com vijest kako im se javilo 200tinjak ljudi kojima su pregorili monitori sa CAT3.8 i 97/800 , ali njuz je nestao i na njegovom mjestu je sad odgovor od ATija.

[Kova]

Veky naše se ne griju ?!

Ja sam testirao, nemam vidljivih, grafička ima dvostruko hlađenje, još + prozor (otvoreni). Ali ono zanima me samo da li ima to veze s nama...

[Veky]

ATI kaze:

RESPONSE TO ALLEGED MONITOR FAILURE ISSUE
We have spent a great deal of time trying to reproduce this problem and analyzing our driver code. There is nothing in our driver code that has changed since CAT 3.7 to CAT 3.8 that could possibly cause this behaviour. We believe that our drivers are not causing these alleged problems.
We do not currently believe these stories are valid. We have already confirmed that of the nearly 100 OEM customer programs have asked for and received this driver, we have received no reports on any such problem from the OEMs. We have also run comprehensive QA tests on the driver before releasing it and have had no cases of failed monitors.
Since we announced CATALYST 3.8 on October 8th, we have recorded hundreds of thousands of downloads, and thus far there have been absolutely no reports whatsoever to ATI’s Customer Support department to report monitors failing.

TECHNICAL REBUTTAL OF MONITOR FAILURE ALLEGATIONS
There have been many posts in the forums discussing this issue, it seems it is a common theory, picked up from one place and keep being circulated. One such theory suggests the following:
“Instead of reading the refresh rates from the PRIMARY display INF files, it is reading the SECONDARY display INF refresh rates.”
In XP and 2K, we don’t have access to monitor INF information in our driver component that manages display capability. We have never used this monitor information for any purpose. We rely on EDID data or user override information to determine monitor capability. Even though the OS may use the monitor information to expose high refresh rate based on monitor INF content, the driver always restricts the actual refresh rate going to the monitor based on EDID or the user override. In essence, the user may be able to select from OS controlled monitor page (in advanced property pages) a high refresh rate but internally driver will restrict the refresh rate going to the monitor based on EDID information or user override information. If user set the override information incorrectly then incompatible signals would be sent to the monitor.
In 9x, we can access monitor INF information but due to issues with how OS maps the INF to a monitor, we had disabled reading the monitor INF via registry. Unless someone deliberately changes the registry setting for this in 9x, they would not run into any monitor INF related issues.

RESPONSE TO ALLEGED HARDWARE OVERHEATING ISSUE
We have spent a great deal of time analyzing the temperatures due to the CATALYST 3.8 drivers. We do not under any circumstance see anything near a 10 degree Celsius increase in temperature (but we don’t overclock our test cards either). We do see a slight increase in temperature in certain cases (3Dmark2003 Nature Scene for example). However any temperature increase is well within our safety range. Investigation continues and we are trying to determine why this change in temperature exits. At this point we are reproducing individual driver packages with code being checked in and measuring the temperature. However nothing shows the alleged increase in temperature. One independent website (DriverHeaven.net) even tried to reproduce this issue, and found no measurable difference in temperature between CATALYST 3.7 and 3.8.

[Veky]

Originally posted by Kova
Veky naše se ne griju ?!

Ja sam testirao, nemam vidljivih, grafička ima dvostruko hlađenje, još + prozor (otvoreni). Ali ono zanima me samo da li ima to veze s nama...

pa ja vrtim 3.8 vec kolko, 2 tjedna? oc je isti ko na 3.7 (max kolko ide) i nema artifakata (a imam i hardcano senzor na njoj) i ne grije se.

monitor radi ko beba isto tako.

[Kova]

Ok Veky, tako je i kod mene, samo provjeravam

[dpajur]

ja i dalje hrabro furam 3.8 catalyst i nadam se da ce moj sto godina stari LG monitor crknut tak da si mogu nest posteno kupit.

inace nisam primjetio da se nes negativno promijenilo sa novim catalystom.. ak se i grije vise, nije nista sto se nebi dalo vodom ohladit, a s pozitivne strane - Halo mi se vise ne krsi. (na 3.7 bi radio max 15 minuta).

[Veky]

Originally posted by dpajur
ja i dalje hrabro furam 3.8 catalyst i nadam se da ce moj sto godina stari LG monitor crknut tak da si mogu nest posteno kupit.

Koji LG imas? Ja imam LG 56m 15", radi od 1996 god., 2002. god mu je riknula trafo stanica pa smo ju zamijenili i sad jos uvijek radi ko beba.

Da bar i meni crkne pa da imam izgovor za novi.

[cyberphere]

Koliko sam ja shvatio sa jedne stranice pali samo monitore od 19" na dalje

[tihomir]

Originally posted by Veky
Koji LG imas? Ja imam LG 56m 15", radi od 1996 god., 2002. god mu je riknula trafo stanica pa smo ju zamijenili i sad jos uvijek radi ko beba.

Da bar i meni crkne pa da imam izgovor za novi.

evo i mog...
YAKUMO DX15FG...
1995. godište,i radi

[tor]

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[Isus]

Muy intersante!
Ma šljiviš ti to ak mi ode ovaj Relyssis TE555, barem dobar izgovor za Samsunga 959NF

[dpajur]

Originally posted by Veky
Koji LG imas? Ja imam LG 56m 15", radi od 1996 god., 2002. god mu je riknula trafo stanica pa smo ju zamijenili i sad jos uvijek radi ko beba.

Da bar i meni crkne pa da imam izgovor za novi.

imam 995E studioworks, isto tak negdje star...

vidim da se tu refurbished FD trinitroni prodaju po 150 eura.. dakle moj monitor vrijedi negdje 5

ima puknutu masku (plastiku), to mu je rana iz transporta hrvatska > irska, a osim toga sve ostalo je prezivjelo i radi oke.