ASRock N3150M & N3700-ITX test

[krešo]

Testirali smo još dvije Braswell platforme.

[segregator]

AMD bi u tom segmentu vjerojatno bolje predstavljala ova ploča:

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/QC5000-ITXPH/

[thony]

Bok,
Upravo sam se registrirati i imao sam neka pitanja o ovom testu (sorry za prezentaciju dijela i ispričavam se za jezik, ja sam francuski, koristim google Trad)
Posebno sam htjela znati o ispitnom Athlon 5350 s alpsko Artic M1, Kako objašnjavate temperaturu od 68 ° C, a zatim kaže da je Arktik 49 ° C na svojim stranicama?
http://www.arctic.ac/eu_en/alpine-m1-passive.html
"Hlađenje performansi i razina buke je AMD Athlon 5350 Quad-core (punim opterećenjem)
Alpsko M1 Pasivno-49 ° C "

Što je temperatura u sobi za vrijeme testa?
Hvala.

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In english :

Hello,
I just have to register and I had some questions about this test (sorry for the presentation part and sorry for the language, I'm French, I use google trad)
I especially wanted to know about the test athlon 5350 with alpine artic M1, How do you explain the temperature of 68 ° C then says that Arctic 49 ° C on its site?
http://www.arctic.ac/eu_en/alpine-m1-passive.html
"Cooling performance & noise level is AMD Athlon 5350 Quad-Core (full load)
Alpine M1 Passive-49 ° C "

What was the temperature of the room during the test?
Thank you.

[dh41400]

Autor thony

Hello,
I just have to register and I had some questions about this test (sorry for the presentation part and sorry for the language, I'm French, I use google trad)
I especially wanted to know about the test athlon 5350 with alpine artic M1, How do you explain the temperature of 68 ° C then says that Arctic 49 ° C on its site?
http://www.arctic.ac/eu_en/alpine-m1-passive.html
"Cooling performance & noise level is AMD Athlon 5350 Quad-Core (full load)
Alpine M1 Passive-49 ° C "

What was the temperature of the room during the test?
Thank you.

Hello to you too

When using passive CPU cooler, and comparing it to active fan coolers, you should especially consider your case airflow.

You can see an example of this in the video on the link you've provided (Arctic web page), where that guy is installing this passive cooler in a case, with the case fan near the passive cooler. Considering the shape of that case and how small his case is, this practically makes his CPU cooler active (fan blowing over the Apline M1 fins).

If you don't have similar case fan configuration, you might experience rather different temperatures.

Even in an open test bench, the temps would be higher because there is no air movement through the Alpine M1 fins.

Another thing to take notice of, is the measuring software used, because AMD platform on different apps, provides different CPU temps from different sensors (try the AMD Overdrive to see real temps).

EDIT:

Btw nice site you got there thony http://www.tests-produits-fanless.fr...lateforme-am1/

If you wanted to compare temps (100% CPU load) of this PCE review, with the results obtained in your test, there could be some differences in CPU voltage, because of different motherboards used. Probably some differences in ambient temperature as well, so it is somewhat difficult to compare two different test setups and their final results.

Cheeers

[thony]

Hello,
Thanks for your answer and thank you for the compliment for my website.

It was actually not the same motherboard, the temperature difference is too great I decided to repeat the test by taking the same card this time, motherboard Asus AM1I-A

I tried this morning AMD overdrive but it does not work on this CPU, it is not recognized, you can not run the software...

So following the motherboard change, I redid a OCCT test and the temperature measured by hwinfo64 (the same software and the same settings)
Voltage values are identical (core voltage, curent core, core power, all these values are the same between my test and that of pcekspert)
and after test 1 hour and 20 minutes, the temperature is 52°C
The test has been performed on a table (not in a box)





The only change between our two tests could be the ambient temperature as you say. My home is 21°C. To see with Krešo the ambient temperature at home but to justify the difference in temperature should be at least 30 ° C ... it's hot: D

Also note that another site test this cooler here: http://www.tech-review.de/include.ph...d=16522&page=8
58°C in Prime95 (prime95 heater more than OCCT)
So I also made a P95 test and here is the result :


56°C is just under 2°C, may be some adjustment in Prime95 and ambient temperature justifie these 2°C.

I will absolutely not challenge Krešo eh tests, they may be quite right, as we have said, the ambient temperature or other parameter may justify this temperature difference (or perhaps a bad clamp radiator for example ...) or it is just me who can make a mistake with a parameter so I would be as fair as possible and if necessary correct my tests, it is a very good thing to have several tests on different sites, this radiator is not sufficiently known and tested... strongly that Arctic exit the Intel version (announced by fanlesstech!)

[dh41400]

There could be several additional causes for temperature differences, like you've mentioned, radiator placement and contact through thermal paste, as well as ambient temperature differences. Of course, even different CPU samples could result in thermal offsets.

As I could gather from both test results, they are all well in the safe temp area so there probably is no reason to worry. If I remember correctly these chips can reach 80+°C without any major issues.

It's probably best if you get an answer from Krešo on this matter, for some additional and more precise info on test variables/circumstances.

Btw I like that quality 250W HDPlex power supply you've got there in your test bench, and I've been seriously planing on getting one a year ago, but eventually I ended up with an SFX sized PSU. Are you satisfied with it ? Any practical drawbacks or flaws?

[krešo]

Hi Thony,

Firstly, welcome to PCEkspert

Ambient temperature is always the same as the room is cooled during the summer, and heated during the winter and it varies from 22 to 23°C.

Like dh41400 said, difference in the temperature might be due to the contact through thermal paste. I had no influence in that matter since I got the setup already mounted, and the thermal paste pre-applied by AMD. I have no idea what they used, but it must be some kind of thermal adhesive since there was no mechanism that would hold the heatsink on the CPU, and yet it was firmly sitting on the CPU (maybe Arctic Silver Arctic Alumina?).

Cheers
Kreso

[thony]

Hello,
Sorry for the response time, a lot of work right now and with the event that there was in France, it is not easy ...

dh41400: Very satisfied by HDPLEX 250W, I used a 400W Seasonic fanless but with no graphics card it was useless. So I won space (with CR95C in a cooler master elite 110, it's perfect!). The build quality is really beautiful and there are no coil whine! While with Seasonic I had coil whine (I could ask for an exchange, my first Seasonic had a very large coil whine, horrible). The 160W is also very good and more than enough for most cpu.

Krešo: thank you for your response. you received the motherboard, the CPU and heatsink already assembled? there was no screw? really strange and it completely will justify the difference in temperature !



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