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franzD, reci mi samo molim te gdje ljudi kao što si to ti obitavaju na internetu kada nema prilike da se negdje nepotrebno jedu govna. Reci mi, iskreno me zanima. Čime se inače baviš?
Sva sreća pa takvih na pcekspert nema puno, ovo je valjda zadnje utočište na internetu i hvala dragome bogu na tome.
Ja bankovne i kvazi bankovne aplikacije držim na mobitelu koji je isključivo doma. Taj mob ne nosim nikamo sa sobom, doma stoji i čeka moje bankarske i kvazibankarske potrebe. Tako sam namjerno napravio da ne bih slučajnim gubitkom mobitela imao veće sranje nego treba. Meni taj usecase odgovara savršeno, dušebrižnici neka ne brinu.
Predmetni uređaj je rootan iz meni dobro poznatih razloga. Znam da je laicima to strašan pojam, međutim to nije ništa posebno. I normalni ljudi mogu rootati mobitele, ne moraju biti to nužni ruski hakeri.
Kako je već navedeno, root nije problem jer koristim i adekvatne aplikacije za maskiranje istog, tako da bankovnim i kvazi bankovnim aplikacijama to ne radi problem, unatoč svoj dušebrižnosti pojedinih segmenata populacije.
Što se tiče "svjesnog korištenja stare (nesigurnije) verzije" na to se mogu samo nasmijati. Sve što radim radim svjesno, tako i to. Sigurno nisam slučajno rootao mobitel. Nivo sigurnosti koju je revolut do jučer (u mom slučaju) potrebovao je za mene bio adekvatan.
Poanta priče je da mi taj pin čak i ne bi toliko smetao kada bih revolut mogao ostaviti na starom mobitelu. Ali eto, zbog custom roma, nesigurnog i hakiranog od strane ruskih i kineskih hakera, ne mogu. Jer dušebrižnici nemaju pametnija posla i zato jer veliki igrači (google npr) žele satrat čisti android (Lineage OS npr.) i tako dalje i tako dalje. Ipak google može preko svojih romova dobiti puno više informacija o korisnicima, na ničije iznenađenje.
Morao bih potrošiti pola dana da nađem i instaliram originalan ROM za taj stari mobitel, koji moguće da više ne bi bio niti podržan od strane revoluta a moguće da svejedno ne bi radilo kako spada jer je bootloader otključan. Nastavno, kako na tom mobu imam i druge bankarske aplikacije, u nastojanju da "popravim" (vratim na staro) revolut, moguće razmrdam ovo ostalo. Skroz nepotrebna i suvišna radnja.
> Sretno s pronalaskom aplikacije za elektronički novac/bankarske aplikacije
Hvala, ali već sam ju našao pred x godina, RBA mobilna aplikacija (koja je updejtana uredno ali jede znatno manje govna od revoluta) to ne traži. Predlažem da odmah pošalješ protestnu notu u RBA, neka čim prije uvedu restrikcije i prisile sve korisnike da svoje mobilne uređaje koriste na način na koji ti smatraš da trebaju.
Kao workaround stavio sam PIN samo na revolut (Huawei makar ima tu opciju) tako da prije startanja same aplikacije moram unjeti taj pin, pa onda unjeti revolut pin. Ali naravno to nije pomoglo, iako je postiglo, što se revoluta tiče identičnu svrhu. Dva pina od 6 znamenki da bi se revolutu pristupilo, ali oni su za to previše pametni pa ne dopuštaju.
I za sve ljudi koji imaju malo soli u glavi, zamislite ovaj scenarij:
- revolut nameće to što nameće
- ja (na opću radost igrača kao franzD) izgubim nezaključan mobitel
- pronalazač telefona skuži da ima na mobitelu revolut, i ubaci svoj pin za lock screen
- otvara revolut i što se dogodi? revolut opet traži svoj pin
Zaista je to velika razlika u sigurnosti između jednog i dva pina, naročito zato što revolut dopušta 5 pokušaja na pin od 6 znamenki. Dakle, napadač ima ukupno 5/1000000 šansu da odgonetne revolut pin. Ja za svoje sigurnosne potrebe kažem kako je to i više nego dovoljno.
Očito mi ne predstoji ništa nego probati par aplikacija i vidjeti kako što. Lako moguće da skroz odustanem od koncepta virutalne kartice.
Imam još jedan stari mob u ladici za tu svrhu, ali i on ima Lineage OS gore. Hvala svima ostalima na savjetima, budem pričekao da mi dođe nova osobna pa ću se onda malo zajebavati sa time.
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