Kada palim laptop dok je hladan, sve divno radi i ukljucuje se bez problema! Kada se laptop ukljuci sve radi, temp je od 50-65˙C, e sad problem nastaje kad pozelim npr restartat, onda se normalno ugasi i kad bi trebalo pokazati podatke s maticne ploce, nista se ne desava samo przilica kasljuca, ali takav zvuk radis uvijek i kad normalno radi, ali ekran ostaje crn! Onda ga prisilno ugasim puhnem u otvor od ventilatora za procesor i pocinje normalno bootanje!
Otvorio sam ga sumnjajuci da ima smeca, ali nema! Sve je cisto! Nije mi jasno, zastop proradi kad puhnem u otvor ili ga ostavim jedno 5-10 minuta!
Nadam se da imate neko objasnjenje i rjesenje!
Zaboravio sam napomenuti da se nekada restarta bez problema!
adam2204
07.03.2010. 01:09
da ti nije opal il tak nes pa se vent malo digo iznad proca?
Gjur0
07.03.2010. 01:14
Ma nije!
Problem je kaj se temperatura ne dize iznad 60, max 65!
coconut
07.03.2010. 08:46
Nešto se pregrijava. Koliko je star laptop? Rastavi ga, očisti prašinu, stavi novu pastu na proc i onda probaj vidjeti šta će se događati.
Gjur0
07.03.2010. 13:46
3 i 1/2 godine!
Jel moze biti da se maticna kvari?
Pitam zato jel temp ne prelazi 65˙C A to je AMD turion
Imace laptop je MSI 655M
Joke
07.03.2010. 17:17
Hm a i temp za idle 65 stupnjeva i nije bas za "pohvalu" (da je temp. ok).
Gjur0
07.03.2010. 17:21
Citiraj:
Autor Joke
(Post 1588927)
Hm a i temp za idle 65 stupnjeva i nije bas za "pohvalu" (da je temp. ok).
Imas kakvu ideju sta bi moglo biti?
Joke
07.03.2010. 17:54
Citiraj:
Autor coconut
(Post 1588481)
Nešto se pregrijava. Koliko je star laptop? Rastavi ga, očisti prašinu, stavi novu pastu na proc i onda probaj vidjeti šta će se događati.
Citiraj:
Autor Gjur0
(Post 1588929)
Imas kakvu ideju sta bi moglo biti?
:)
Gjur0
07.03.2010. 18:28
Citiraj:
Autor Joke
(Post 1588955)
:)
Heh, nisam to nikada radio, jel to problem, pasta skupa? Koju da kupim? Kako skinuti staru?
:)
Matth€w
07.03.2010. 21:05
Alkohol, vata i štapići za uši, a pasta, AC Cerqmique.
Imao ju je i Links do prošlog tjedna, ali očito je trenutno nema. Može i AC 5.
Gjur0
08.03.2010. 01:45
Probat cu promjeniti, ma da mislim da nije to, posto je temp uvijek oko 50-65!!
Mad_Duke
08.03.2010. 08:10
PS:
Na kaj misliš pod "prisilno" ugasit?
Ako vadiš bateriju nemoj. Prije probaj držati gumb za paljenje 5-7 sekundi.
Neće ti pomoći sa problemom, ali evo mali hint.
Gjur0
08.03.2010. 14:58
Citiraj:
Autor Mad_Duke
(Post 1589357)
PS:
Na kaj misliš pod "prisilno" ugasit?
Ako vadiš bateriju nemoj. Prije probaj držati gumb za paljenje 5-7 sekundi.
Neće ti pomoći sa problemom, ali evo mali hint.
Na to sam mislio kad sam rekao prislino gasenje!
Gjur0
12.03.2010. 22:21
Promjeni pastu, sve isto!!
Probao sam MemTest i stavio sam na 1024 i vrtio je cijelu noc, ko kad sam ga na pocetku stavio?
Nesto krivo radim?
Mario2010
13.03.2010. 00:15
moyda tvoj problem uopce nije vezan uz procesor,,,hmm tesko je biti pametan pa sad sa sto postotnom sigurnošću reći da nije matična ploča.......hmm.........."mozda" se BIOS zblesirao pa ga grebe to sa restartom i shutdownom
EDIT:
mozes ga probat raskopat temeljito očistit ispuhat i resetirat bios
Gjur0
13.03.2010. 00:42
Citiraj:
Autor Mario2010
(Post 1594155)
moyda tvoj problem uopce nije vezan uz procesor,,,hmm tesko je biti pametan pa sad sa sto postotnom sigurnošću reći da nije matična ploča.......hmm.........."mozda" se BIOS zblesirao pa ga grebe to sa restartom i shutdownom
EDIT: mozes ga probat raskopat temeljito očistit ispuhat i resetirat bios
Obavljeno!!!
Resetirat bios...? Kako, sve vratit na stare postavke?
Iscupao sam keks memorije i umetnuo ga u drugi utor onda je poceo bootat normalno, al opet kod restarta ista stvar!!!
Mario2010
13.03.2010. 00:50
raskopaj komp do kraja i iscupaj bateriju i ostavi je malo vani nek se lufta.par min........i vrati sve nazad i pospoji..............pazi da ne pomijesas serafe...ili nedo bog počupaš neke el. komponente sa ploče
ako nisi siguran da to mozes obavit,radije nemoj....daj nekome da ti to napravi.......
LP,
Mario
Gjur0
13.03.2010. 01:17
Bateriju vidim i kad onaj osnovni poklopac skinem, al zicice idu unutar ovojnice od baterije...
Mario2010
13.03.2010. 09:55
hehe,posto ja neznam koliko si ti inf pismen/nepismen ........baterija je mala kao kromirana? ko za ručni sat?samo uvecana jedno 10x
da ne bi ispalo da raskapaš bateriju za napjanje laptopa
Gjur0
13.03.2010. 14:23
Recimo da softwareski sm dost pismen, dok hardverski znam neke stvari!
Znam koja baterija, i odspojio sam je od maticne i nakon minutu vratio natrag i za sad se svaki puta normalno resetirao! Kazem za sad!
Hvala za pomoc, ako bude opet problema javim se za nove pokusaje, za sad puno ti hvala! :goood:
Mario2010
13.03.2010. 20:13
odlično,ako gdje zapne ima nas ovdje dosta,:D..
LP,
Mario
Gjur0
14.03.2010. 16:11
Opet ista stvar, nekad resetira normalno, nekad ne zeli... Onda puhnem u otvor ventilatora i onda se upali bez problema...
Glupo mi je to jel temperatura cpu-a je bila 60, mbo 64, a hdd 40!
1. Check your BIOS for BIOS FLASH PROTECTION and make sure it's DISABLED, some motherboards have this function.
For Example:
K7N420 Pro (MS-6373) – BIOS setup/Integrated Peripherals/BIOS Protect/Disabled
2. Find the exact model motherboard you have.
a. First check inside the motherboard bios, some motherboards, like the MS-7030, show the bios version in the bios, under Standard CMOS Features.
b. Open your case and look for the MS-XXXX number on the motherboard, using located between the PCI slots, also check the version number as well. (Some motherboards like the MS-6390 have different versions, in which each version uses a different bios)
c. Boot up your system & take a look at the top left screen during POST, you should see something like “W6390VMS v2.6 092903” This means the board is MS-6390 with BIOS version 2.6
Hint: Many systems run to fast, that you will not be able to see this line, you can either press “PAUSE” key or you can disable the “Quick Boot” & “Full Screen Logo” options in the BIOS.
3. Download the BIOS that match your motherboard model and version number. BIOS's can be found at this link, which are separated by CPU socket type (socket 775, socket 478, socket 754, socket A, and archives)
4. Extract the BIOS that you have downloaded by double click it and extract it to a blank formatted floppy disk.
5. Boot the system with a bootable floppy disk
a. A Windows 98/ME startup disk can be used
b. Or you can create an MS-DOS startup disk under Windows XP, to create an MS-DOS startup disk under Windows XP, right click on the 3 ½ floppy drive icon under my computer and select format. On the format dialog box, check the box next to “Create MS-DOS startup disk” and then click the start button to make a MS-DOS startup disk.
6 Once you boot off of the bootable floppy disk, replace the bootable floppy disk with the floppy disk containing the bios files.
7. At the A:\ prompt, you will type in the following command
a. A:\FLASHUTILITY BIOSFILE.VER
b. The flash utility will be the .EXE file included in the BIOS you downloaded. For example: ADSFI712.EXE = BIOS FLASH UTILITY
c. The BIOS file will end with the version number you downloaded. For example:
A6728ims.210 = BIOS file version 2.10
8. To update the BIOS using the example above you would type the following command.
a. A:\ADSFI712 A6728ims.210, then push the enter key.
b. Follow the onscreen prompts to update the BIOS.
9. DO NOT TURN OFF THE POWER or RESET/REBOOT the SYSTEM before the BIOS update is completed, stopping the BIOS UPATE before it is completed will cause the system to become non-functional.
10. Reboot the system once the bios update has been completed.
Award or AMI BIOS Flash Procedure
Special Note:
The BIOS contained here are exclusively for Micro-Star products only. Micro-Star assumes no responsibility for any damages resulting from improper use or lack of technical expertise.
WARNING!!!!!
Do not flash the BIOS if your system is running fine.
If you have not flashed a motherboard bios manually before, please use caution when updating the BIOS manually. Or you can use MSI Live Update 3 to update the bios.
Also before updating the BIOS, make sure to note all BIOS settings you have made manually, as updating the BIOS will set all BIOS settings back to factory defaults.
MSI Live Update 3
This is a program developed by MSI for updating to the latest BIOS, Drivers, Firmware and MSI Utilities for all your MSI products.
Download, install, and run MSI Live Update 3 from this link.
BIOS Flash Procedure
1. Check your BIOS for BIOS FLASH PROTECTION and make sure it's DISABLED, some motherboards have this function.
For Example:
K7N420 Pro (MS-6373) – BIOS setup/Integrated Peripherals/BIOS Protect/Disabled
2. Find the exact model motherboard you have.
a. First check inside the motherboard bios, some motherboards, like the MS-7030, show the bios version in the bios, under Standard CMOS Features.
b. Open your case and look for the MS-XXXX number on the motherboard, using located between the PCI slots, also check the version number as well. (Some motherboards like the MS-6390 have different versions, in which each version uses a different bios)
c. Boot up your system & take a look at the top left screen during POST, you should see something like “W6390VMS v2.6 092903” This means the board is MS-6390 with BIOS version 2.6
Hint: Many systems run to fast, that you will not be able to see this line, you can either press “PAUSE” key or you can disable the “Quick Boot” & “Full Screen Logo” options in the BIOS.
3. Download the BIOS that match your motherboard model and version number. BIOS's can be found at this link, which are separated by CPU socket type (socket 775, socket 478, socket 754, socket A, and archives)
4. Extract the BIOS that you have downloaded by double click it and extract it to a blank formatted floppy disk.
5. Boot the system with a bootable floppy disk
a. A Windows 98/ME startup disk can be used
b. Or you can create an MS-DOS startup disk under Windows XP, to create an MS-DOS startup disk under Windows XP, right click on the 3 ½ floppy drive icon under my computer and select format. On the format dialog box, check the box next to “Create MS-DOS startup disk” and then click the start button to make a MS-DOS startup disk.
6 Once you boot off of the bootable floppy disk, replace the bootable floppy disk with the floppy disk containing the bios files.
7. At the A:\ prompt, you will type in the following command
a. A:\FLASHUTILITY BIOSFILE.VER
b. The flash utility will be the .EXE file included in the BIOS you downloaded. For example: ADSFI712.EXE = BIOS FLASH UTILITY
c. The BIOS file will end with the version number you downloaded. For example:
A6728ims.210 = BIOS file version 2.10
8. To update the BIOS using the example above you would type the following command.
a. A:\ADSFI712 A6728ims.210, then push the enter key.
b. Follow the onscreen prompts to update the BIOS.
9. DO NOT TURN OFF THE POWER or RESET/REBOOT the SYSTEM before the BIOS update is completed, stopping the BIOS UPATE before it is completed will cause the system to become non-functional.
10. Reboot the system once the bios update has been completed.
Gjur0
15.03.2010. 00:46
Evo ovako, problem nestaje i laptop se normalno pali, kad izvadim i vratim bateriju na maticnoj lap se normalno upali!
Dal bi mogao biti problem u njoj?
Za sto uopce sluzi ta baterija?
Edit: kad sam probao ukljuciti lap bez nje, nije htio!!
Mario2010
15.03.2010. 18:59
heheh..........nemre ti komp radit bey te baterije
jer ona laicki receno pamti postavke biosa
isto kako komp nemre radit bey proca tako recimo da bios nemre radit bey baterije a ak ne radi bios ne radi komp
voila.........
sad moze bit da ti se bios tolko izblesiro da mu treba nova verzija a isto tako postoji mogucnost da je neki komad hardvera prestao funkcionirat kako treba ......paa ga to zakoci svaki puta...........fino si uzmi alate i istestiraj sve komponente po redu
nino
15.03.2010. 19:05
Citiraj:
Autor Mario2010
(Post 1596309)
....isto kako komp nemre radit bey proca tako recimo da bios nemre radit bey baterije a ak ne radi bios ne radi komp
voila........
