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alengrosevic 21.06.2021. 22:58

Windows 11 - info, how-to, pitanja, novosti, savjeti...
 
Evo izlazi polako novi OS, pa da ima svoju temu.

http://www.pcekspert.com/novost/wind...do-sada-znamo/


Upravo instaliran na starijoj Xeon 771 konfi i sve radi uredno :goood:

The Exiled 22.06.2021. 14:09

New Windows 11 registry hacks to customize your device:frend:
Code:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced\ "Start_ShowClassicMode"
Code:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\ Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced\ "TaskbarSi"
Code:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\ Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced\ "TaskbarDa"
Code:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\ Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced\ "TaskbarAl"
Code:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced\ "EnableSnapAssistFlyout"

Disco 23.06.2021. 13:07


Mario92 24.06.2021. 09:11

Mislim, to je i dalje Windows 10 iz cobalt brancha tako da je u srcu identican build 21390 koji je već neko vrijeme u Insider kanalu... Samo je UI drugačiji, i to samo na površini jer mmc je i dalje isti :D

Kaj se tiče featurea kojih nema u leakanom build, očekuje se novi Action center sličan onome iz 10x, full dark mode za explorer, novi dizajn inbox aplikacija, context meniji koji budu konzistentniji a ne cumez kakav su sad...

mamutarka 24.06.2021. 11:25

službeno predstavljanje je danas u 17h po našem, ak sam dobro prepračuno

Mommistake 24.06.2021. 14:51

Evo, da ovjekovječimo ovu temu, stickao sam ju na vrh. ;)

EDIT:
Btw. imao sam feeling da je između sedmice i desetke prošlo puno manje vremena nego sada između 10 i 11, kad ono gotovo isto, 6 godina.

Blue Spirit 24.06.2021. 15:44

EDIT: ipak je u 17h

U 17h je, evo i CNET-ovog livestrima:

Microsoft Windows 11 Reveal Event - Livestream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y_RZf5i_LE

https://i.imgur.com/zgFd2Zj.png

mamutarka 24.06.2021. 16:21

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/event

mamutarka 24.06.2021. 17:07

odličan event, buffera svako malo, nedaj bože da su na yt to napravili, premoderno je to za njih lol

Mihael 24.06.2021. 17:12

Puklo. Nije mi bitno. UI mi se ovako na prvu sviđa. Vidjet ćemo kad budu tostupni prvi službeni buildovi. Čekam LTSC

mamutarka 24.06.2021. 17:14

https://www.facebook.com/windows/vid...5771944468952/ tu radi

Splitska Posla 24.06.2021. 17:46

Kaže Satja Nadella: "This is the first version of a new era of windows". Eto i oni su na putu prema putu.

mamutarka 24.06.2021. 17:46

odličan event jebo ih, mogli su bar reć jel to update samo, jel to nova verzija skroz zasebno, jel free, nije free, ništa apsolutno

Mario92 24.06.2021. 17:58

- free upgrade sa Windows 10
- maknuta cortana
- maknut meet now
- maknut onaj widget za vrijeme u taskbaru
- maknut tablet mode ali poboljšana generalno podrška za tablete
- timeline je maknut
- maknut skype
- insider build dolazi sljedeći tjedan
- release vjerojatno u listopadu
- system requirements je veći - dual core, 4gb ram, te je obavezan uefi, secure boot i tpm 2.0
- android aplikacije podržane
- nema više 32bitne verzije, samo 64bitna
- feature update samo jednom godišnje umjesto dvaput


Meni ovo izgleda ko Windows 7 v2.0. Oni koji su hejtali 10 budu došli na svoje

mamutarka 24.06.2021. 18:08

ja sam skinuo https://aka.ms/GetPCHealthCheckApp sa sajta da kao provjerim dal može na komp 11, kaže NE :D

wtf mi fali :D

mamutarka 24.06.2021. 18:14

Citiraj:

Autor mamutarka (Post 3527813)
wtf mi fali :D

izgleda da ovo

https://i.imgur.com/SqR3P7x.png

Mario92 24.06.2021. 18:58

Na AMD-u je lako - samo treba upaliti fTPM.

Naravno, uz Secure Boot

https://i.imgur.com/cSDkGY0.png

Blue Spirit 24.06.2021. 19:05

Za likanu verziju ... How to INSTALL Windows 11 Error FREE on ANY PC! (fast and easy)

https://youtu.be/iL_X_Sxt0vQ?t=142

tomek@vz 24.06.2021. 19:18

Citiraj:

Autor mamutarka (Post 3527817)
izgleda da ovo


Ne kontam. Kod mene isto sranje. 2 Thinkpada i Y520. Kakve veze ima TPM cip sa instalacijom OS-a? Malo bedasto. Cini mi se kao "razlog" da se pogura prodaja novih kompova. Steta s obzirom na to kolko 10-tka dobro radi na cak i starijem hardweru. Ocito moraju pak malo sjebat korisnika.


:kafa:

mamutarka 24.06.2021. 19:25

nemam pojma šta izmišljavaju, ja sam našaoTPM modul 2.0 na ebayu, sad se samo nadam da moj TPM modul na ploči to podržava, kak da znam dal podržava? u manualu piše samo 14pin TPM modul https://i.imgur.com/BYDGnV9.jpg

kasko 24.06.2021. 19:29

Ja stavio pred par dana i mogu rec da mi je zasad bolji od w10.
Funkcionalniji je ovaj widget bar nego taskbar iz 10etke. Stavio na laptop, odradio win update radi drivera i sve radi ko puska. Zasad.

Sent from my GM1917 using Tapatalk

tomek@vz 24.06.2021. 19:31

Plus ovo:


Citiraj:

Another big change is that Windows 11 Home users will need to be connected to the internet when they first set up their device. They will also need to have a Microsoft Account – local accounts won’t be accepted.
While Microsoft claims this will help Windows 11 Home be a more connected operating system which is better customised to your interests, and you’ll only need to be connected to the internet during the initial setup, this will still be concerning for some people.
If you live in an area with poor internet connectivity, for example, then this could cause problems. For people who don’t want a Microsoft Account, this could also prove annoying, but at least they are free.
This only affects Windows 11 Home – Windows 11 Pro will continue to allow offline setup.


Dakle Win 10 Home = nema mogucnosti lokalnog accounta ...ok kuzim spiku oko MS Accounta, imam ga i koristim al to bi po meni ipak trebalo biti opcionalno a ne da se forsira.

Dobar stari MS se vraca kolko vidim :lol2:

mkey 24.06.2021. 20:42

Ajde makar su raskrstili sa 32 bitnom verzijom.

Dr. Strange 24.06.2021. 21:06

Pošto windows 11 koristi istu bazu kao windows 10 upgrade bi trebao biti bezbolan koliko sam shvatio? Mrsko mi je raditi clean install i sve nanovo.

Alister 24.06.2021. 21:11

Upgrade je bezbolan već malo duže, stoga bude i tu bio.
A Windows 10 home ima lokalni account, a mislim da bude morao i ovaj OS, jer neće moći svi baš uvijek imati internet u trenutku instalacije, ili kada se nešto smrda na njemu pa treba raditi popravak OS-a

mamutarka 24.06.2021. 21:17

hmm sad sam enejblao TPM da bude FIRMWARE u biosu, i sad prolazi onaj check za win 11

zanima me što se još desilo sa stavljanjem TPM-a na firmware? nesam školovala

alengrosevic 24.06.2021. 21:37

Ekipa, ja sam instalirao na xeon 771 konfu koja nema niti tpm 1.0. Da se instalirati, prosurfajte po netu, ima workaround

Mladenxy 24.06.2021. 22:20

više gamerski OS
https://www.hcl.hr/vijest/najavljen-...gamere-172815/

Veseli me bolja HDR podrška.

Disco 25.06.2021. 08:29

Citiraj:

Autor mamutarka (Post 3527894)
hmm sad sam enejblao TPM da bude FIRMWARE u biosu, i sad prolazi onaj check za win 11

zanima me što se još desilo sa stavljanjem TPM-a na firmware? nesam školovala

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us...intel-nuc.html


Trusted Platform Module (TPM 2.0) - TPM 2.0 is a microcontroller that stores keys, passwords, and digital certificates. A discrete TPM 2.0 also supports Intel® vPro™ Technology and Intel® Trusted Execution Technology (Intel® TXT).

Intel® Platform Trust Technology (Intel® PTT) - Intel® Platform Trust Technology (Intel® PTT) offers the capabilities of discrete TPM 2.0. Intel PTT is a platform functionality for credential storage and key management used by Windows 8* and Windows® 10. Intel PTT supports BitLocker* for hard drive encryption and supports all Microsoft requirements for firmware Trusted Platform Module (fTPM) 2.0.

Ja bi rekao nekakva izmišljotina jer kao sigurnost no1.

Ja sam probao onaj test da li mi je komp kompatibilan i veli da nije, ali nigdje ne piše zašto...

EDIT: Evo još bolje objašnjenje:



"fTPM" is a type of TPM that's implemented in system firmware instead of using a dedicated chip.

The TPM is a tamper-resistant "secure element" used to hold cryptographic keys (including smartcard certificates and BitLocker credentials). BitLocker mainly uses it for the system disk, since the TPM can provide passwordless unlocking while still resisting external attacks (i.e. it seals the encryption key with the current system state). Without a TPM, you would have to unlock the system disk using a password, a recovery key, or a USB stick on every reboot.

This doesn't apply so much to data disks, since Windows is already fully running once they're accessed, it can provide automatic unlocking without a TPM by simply storing the data disk's password in your Windows account. (And obviously it doesn't affect unlocking with a password.)

The most likely reasons you need to disable the (f)TPM before upgrading firmware are:

System firmware is part of the aforementioned "current system state". If you upgrade it, anything that was previously sealed against it would be unusable; e.g. if you used BitLocker with a TPM, you would need to use the recovery key. Some manufacturers insist that the TPM be manually disabled to serve as a reminder to the user that they'll need other means of unlocking the system disk.

It's relatively common practice to force all secrets to be erased before a firmware upgrade can happen, also called "insider attack resistance". Because the fTPM is part of system firmware, upgrading it can become a security risk – if the new firmware is buggy or backdoored, it may bypass the protections that were supposed to be provided; e.g. it might conveniently "forget" to check system state before releasing the keys. I don't know if "disabling" fTPM erases its contents, but if it does, it would be a very likely explanation.

Znači li ovo da je BL uvijek uključen u W11 ili i dalje kriptiramo disk po želji?

mamutarka 25.06.2021. 10:15

kada bi mogao bit dostupan ofišl ISO? idući tjedan ide kao za insidere, onda bude i ISO?

Blue Spirit 25.06.2021. 10:54

Find Windows 11 specs, features, and computer requirements

Citiraj:

Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster with 2 or more cores on a compatible 64-bit processor or System on a Chip (SoC)

RAM: 4 gigabyte (GB)

Storage: 64 GB or larger storage device

Note: See below under “More information on storage space to keep Windows 11 up-to-date” for more details.

System firmware: UEFI, Secure Boot capable

TPM: Trusted Platform Module (TPM) version 2.0

Graphics card: Compatible with DirectX 12 or later with WDDM 2.0 driver

Display: High definition (720p) display that is greater than 9” diagonally, 8 bits per color channel

Internet connection and Microsoft accounts: Windows 11 Home edition requires internet connectivity and a Microsoft account to complete device setup on first use.

Switching a device out of Windows 11 Home in S mode also requires internet connectivity. Learn more about S mode here.

For all Windows 11 editions, internet access is required to perform updates and to download and take advantage of some features. A Microsoft account is required for some features.


https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wind...specifications

Disco moraš enejblat TPM u BIOS -u / UEFI -u pa ce ti Microsoft PC Health Check pokazat "This PC can run Windows 11"

https://i.imgur.com/BJ0jlGm.png



klikni na spoiler za detaljniji prikaz kako to izgleda u UEFI-u od Asus B450 ploce




Odeš na search i upišeš TPM

https://i.imgur.com/TBX4ryQ.png

Klikneš OK i izbaci ti ovo

i Enejblaš ga

https://i.imgur.com/Lkpq7Ae.png

Onda mi se pojavilo ovo upozorenje

https://i.imgur.com/kG45PiO.png

Klikneš F10 ili sejv i exit changes

nakon restarta i ponovnog ulaska u UEFI dobijem ovo

https://i.imgur.com/4jFnQtp.png





https://i.imgur.com/Lkpq7Ae.png



Gore ti pišu system requirements:

Đabe sve ako MBO / Laptop nema TPM ili nema mogucnost dodavanja TPM modula


Svaki MBO maker ima drukciji TPM modul jer nije standardiziran te razlikuju se po broju PIN -ova:

Citiraj:

Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, Asrock they TPM are not compatible with each other.

As far as I can tell as of 2020 there is no standard TPM header so you must buy TPM from the same vendor as motherboard and even in that case check how many pins you have.

https://superuser.com/questions/9250...he-same-vendor


Navedimo mamutarku kao primjer koji ima ASUS PRIME Z370-A MBO koja ima UEFI i ima DX12 GPU ali jedino mu fali taj TPM

Njegova ploca podržava da se na nju ugradi TPM modul.

TPM modul za Ausu ploce https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Co...es/TPM-M-R2-0/

https://i.imgur.com/VwHGFZn.png https://i.imgur.com/1bZnQ7k.png


How To Enable BitLocker With Intel PTT https://www.legitreviews.com/how-to-...ecurity_211713



Naveo sam kako se trenutno na Win 11 verziji koje je procurila i bez TPM-a može usnimiti Windows 11 , a dal ce se TPM u buducnosti moc zaobic i dal ce Win 11 moc radi bez njega to cemo tek vidjeti.


Windows 11 Leak and TPM 2.0 FIX https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3D9o8Dpt-8

How to INSTALL Windows 11 Error FREE on ANY PC! (fast and easy) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL_X_Sxt0vQ

How to bypass TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot on windows 11 installation? Step by Step guide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-2-nIcfh1c

https://i.imgur.com/PZcz4tm.png

mamutarka 25.06.2021. 11:00

enejblao sam ja TPM sinoć na kraju, procesor valjda podržava, ko ima asus ploču i intel cpu:

UEFI - PCH-FW Configuration - PTT

i tamo sam stavio TPP Firmware


taman sam našao da ADM prodaje modul za 90kn, al na kraju ću izgleda moći bez toga

mamutarka 25.06.2021. 11:39

jedno pitanje, ako ja imam win 10 retail https://i.ibb.co/zxrgdmW/unnamed.jpg

i idem instalirat win 11 ISO, dal kod instalacije vrijedi win 10 key? pošto je free upgrade kao, zanima me kak aktivirat ako ne radim upgrade iz windowsa 10, nego friški install win 11

kasko 25.06.2021. 11:46

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Citiraj:

Autor mamutarka (Post 3528034)
jedno pitanje, ako ja imam win 10 retail https://i.ibb.co/zxrgdmW/unnamed.jpg

i idem instalirat win 11 ISO, dal kod instalacije vrijedi win 10 key? pošto je free upgrade kao, zanima me kak aktivirat ako ne radim upgrade iz windowsa 10, nego friški install win 11

Nisam niti ukucaovao key prilikom instalacije, standard shema kao da nemas key sam odabrao i povuko je sam w10 key.

mamutarka 25.06.2021. 11:53

aha, još se HOME useri poput mene moraju sa msoft accom logirat pri instalaciji, tak da se nadam da bude onda povukao

The Exiled 25.06.2021. 19:48

Windows 11 Feature deprecations and removals
Citiraj:

  • Taskbar functionality is changed including: Alignment to the bottom of the screen is the only location allowed.

  • Desktop wallpaper cannot be roamed to or from device when signed in with a Microsoft account.

Jebeno, nema kaj, ovi ko da se stvarno trude da ljude prebace na neki drugi OS.:chears: Sva sreća pa popularne Linux distribucije fino napreduju, tak da izbora ne nedostaje.

mamutarka 25.06.2021. 20:33

dobro je dok može start lijevo, već sam se prepo :D

The Exiled 25.06.2021. 20:44

Ma općenito uvode kojekakve "novosti" koje su pak same sebi svrha, dok istovremeno ograničavaju sasvim normalno korištenje OS-a pod izlikom sigurnosti i napretka.

mamutarka 25.06.2021. 20:49

pitaj boga što će još sve ''dodat'' do releasa, smjer kojim ide mi se baš i ne dopada

tomek@vz 25.06.2021. 22:12

https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/phot...8E_460swp.webp


:goood:


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