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prvi R520 benchmark?

niceee, dobri klokovi čovječe.

Onih 1400MHz na memoriji je cool:rambo: :rambo:

GTX ga još uvijek jede za doručak:burn:
iako ima 1400MHz mem clock još uvijek ga gazi...

Malko sam se razocaro:(

Gledajte te "rezultate" sa dozom rezerve....

Citiraj:

Obviously because we’re not bound by any NDA or other agreement with ATI we’ve worked hard to get you some benchmark results prior to the launch which is scheduled for the end of this month. To ATI we’d like to comment that it is a two-way street really, we’d like to be briefed about your products and have early access to them, if that requirement is met we will have no issues with signing and adhering to NDAs. By cutting us off however we’ve just been given a new incentive to work harder to break the news when we get a chance, in our usual no holds barred fashion.

to sliči na "niste nam dali hardver da se igramo s njime pa ćemo vas sada "popljuvati""....:rolleyes:
više ovdje: http://www.guru3d.com/newsitem.php?id=3069

JAAAAAAAAAAAKO sam razocaran jer testovi nelazu :(

ati ati crni ati :(

hej hej hej, ostavite te komentare "razocaran sam" i "crni ati" za onda kad procitate pravi review kad se kartica zapravo pojavi na trzistu...

Cito sam ja svakakih gluposti po netu, i recenzijica di ati gazi 7800gtx, i di gubi... sacekaj par tjedana, skok na beyond3d, i onda mos pljuvat ;)

Ja mislim da je sasvim solidno za 16 pix-a. Ipak GAZI GT-icu sa 20...

Citiraj:

Originally posted by Codiac-
JAAAAAAAAAAAKO sam razocaran jer testovi nelazu :(

ati ati crni ati :(

ti "testovi" uopće nisu pravi testovi...
ovi su te "brojke" dobili od nekog ATI partnera....barem tako kažu...znači ni luk jeli, ni luk mirisali...:rolleyes:
stoga, evo nekoliko citata za one kojima se ne da kliknut na link: :rolleyes:

Citiraj:

Sorry guys, can't help you with pics or driver revs and all that, the testing was done in the lab of one of ATI's board partners in Taiwan, and they're not about to disclose who they are, as ATI will certainly want a 'word' with them. Nevertheless my hat's off to them and a big thanks is in order, as they were willing to help me when we came to them for a scoop a few weeks ago, and a scoop it sure was.

Citiraj:

Sander [tip sa HardwareAnalysisa] obviously did not produce the results himself, yet apparently the results come from a board partner in Taiwan. Although the "review" misses out a lot of info it positions the R520 products at the 7800 GT and GTX level. Both give and take a little. I really don't know if we can trust the results published by Sander as you need to test a product in-house and not rely on 3rd party based beta engineerging products.

Citiraj:

ATI's (Chris Hook) first reaction to this article was: " Fiction. I don't believe these numbers were ever run on a 520 ".

A second response just came in:

"This is a complete hoax - done with an OC'd X850, we think. Call our partners yourself and ask if they have R520XTs in house. The numbers aren't even close."

Znaci kada dojdu grafe na testiranje i kad vidim "prave" rezultate onda cu vjevovat.
Još ima nade:D

PO tim testovima ispada da je kartica losija od gtx-ice, ali i kad dodu pravi testovi to nebude puno bolje nego max 5%
Sad dali to opravdava 1000kn vecu cijenu:rolleyes:

ne volim vidjet nedoveršene reviewe i testove.

nek dovrše započeto pa nek onda daju rezultate i sve ostalo!:smoke:

Citiraj:

Originally posted by ZED-M
PO tim testovima ispada da je kartica losija od gtx-ice, ali i kad dodu pravi testovi to nebude puno bolje nego max 5%

imaš neku "insider" informaciju? :rolleyes:

Citiraj:

Originally posted by Mailman
imaš neku "insider" informaciju? :rolleyes:

Pa nemam, al kaj ti ocekujes cuda ala 50%:rolleyes:

Tja, koliko vidim-svi komentiraju a nisu ni pročitali ono na ljinkovima:rolleyes:

Ja čekam prave reviewe pa ćemo onda vidjeti.
Iako ne očejujem bog-zna-kaj.

Treba pričekat one luđake iz xbit labsa da provrte tridesetak testova igara a ne jedan mark i tri igre.:)

ja mislim da ti decki lazu :clap:

kaj se tice r520 bit ce 1000000 puta jaca od gtx reko je stricek iz atija...

:gringo:
Di su dokazi? :D kad ja vidim sliku jezgre i verificirane scoreove iz benčeva tek tad cu vjerovat do tad je sve "bas sam sanjao da mi je postar doniio x1800xt"

Citiraj:

Originally posted by ZED-M
Pa nemam, al kaj ti ocekujes cuda ala 50%:rolleyes:

očekujem valjane benčeve....a za to vrijeme ne vadim podatke "out of the ass"...:rolleyes:

Od jednog nvidiota nemožeš očekivat ništa drugo nego da popljuje sve kaj u sebi sadrži ATI;)
Jače ili slabije od 7800 me ne dira jer love nebude ni za jedno ni za drugo

Citiraj:

Originally posted by MRKONJA
Od jednog nvidiota nemožeš očekivat ništa drugo nego da popljuje sve kaj u sebi sadrži ATI;)
Jače ili slabije od 7800 me ne dira jer love nebude ni za jedno ni za drugo

same here ;)

cijela konfa mi vrijedi kolko jedna takva grafa, o čemu smo i jutros pričali.

bio bi ja zadovoljan i sa bilo čim što počinje sa x8... ili 68.. 78.. :D

Citiraj:

Originally posted by Gabre

bio bi ja zadovoljan i sa bilo čim što počinje sa x8... ili 68.. 78.. :D

joj da mi u ruke padne ona GTO safirka koja se moda u x850....:D
tako da nastavim tradiciju softmodanja...:D

Citiraj:

Originally posted by Mailman
joj da mi u ruke padne ona GTO safirka koja se moda u x850....:D
tako da nastavim tradiciju softmodanja...:D

Mislim da nakon onog članka takvih nema više na tržištu:D

Citiraj:

Currently im under NDA so I can not post benchmark results regarding ATI's forthcoming R520 board, but after reading an article today over at HardwareAnalysis I feel its worthwhile giving my views on this.

Hardwareanalysis have been snubbed by ATI and claim to have some results running with the R520 (X1800) which he states have been ran in conjunction with a board partner :

"Normally we would’ve adhered to ATI’s NDA and published results the moment it expired. However this time around ATI decided to just not bother with us as they made it very clear that we did not make the cut, as we have written some articles about CrossFire, R520 and ATI’s financial situation that were apparently not appreciated. Hence we’ve not been briefed by ATI, nor did we sign an NDA, or have been invited to the launch event, so basically they decided to cut us off."

With the help of a board partner we’ve been able to run the same set of benchmarks we’ve previously run on NVIDIA’s GeForce 7800GT and GTX"

Most of you will realise when a website is given hardware by a company like ATI or NVIDIA, testing is done internally by a site reviewer, a member of the reviewing team, I find this article a little disturbing, is this the way hardware sites are going to handle benchmarking in future when "snubbed" by a manufacturer? to have AIB's run tests for public viewing within environments outside our control? There are so many variables involved in this it would certainly not be something I would ever feel comfortable with on any level. It is a website's duty to print their findings to their readers.

I have had some experience with a R520 and I have to say I find the results somewhat suspect. I am not going to get into an "Nvidia V ATI" debacle, the current Nvidia 7800 hardware is first class and has received a heavenly hardware gold award on Driverheaven, the issue at hand are the methods it appears some sites are getting their "results" of unreleased hardware. The results at Hardwareanalysis are scores ive achieved with an overclocked X850XT PE and not a R520 graphics card. I can't help feel with the context of the editorial is it merely a "stab" at ATI for being kept out of the loop.

Speaking with ATI today one of my sources was keen to say "Everyone will see in October that the only board Sander tested was a Ouija board."

My suggestion for all our members reading this is to not get too caught up in "previews" clearly based on bitterness from websites out of the loop but to wait until respected sites like Hardocp, Hexus and ourselves bring figures by testing first hand not via other sources.

EDIT: I feel its also important to mention ATI have stated Sander sent the following email after he wasnt invited to editors day, it might be an insight into his state of mind.

> From: Sander Sassen - Hardware Analysis
> [mailto:ssassen@hardwareanalysis.com]
> Sent: 08 September 2005 09:39
> To: Andrzej Bania
> Subject: Re: Editors Day

>
> So you're telling me I'm not invited is that it? I feel an ATI column
> coming
> up, lets see if we can drop the stock price shall we?
>
> Sander Sassen
> http://www.hardwareanalysis.com <http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/>
__________________

http://www.driverheaven.net/showthread.php?t=85118

heheh, obratite pažnju na boldani dio :D

Evo što kaže ATI:

Citiraj:

- Sander’s benchmarks do not reflect ATI R520 hardware, nor do they reflect the performance of products currently being evaluated by partners.
- The real performance of R520 clearly dominates the fastest competitive hardware
- Sander never tested a board
- Sander used ‘custom benchmarks’ so he’d have an excuse later for his mistakes (his numbers fall far outside the range of what is reasonable for those games in any custom benchmark)

"Clearly dominates"...hmm, zanimljivo, zanimljivo...morati ćemo pričekati prave rezultate da vidimo je li to običan PR ili stvarno stanje stvari....

Citiraj:

Originally posted by Jelc
Mislim da nakon onog članka takvih nema više na tržištu:D

Može link pliz?
Totalno sam neupućen u zadnje vrijeme...

Citiraj:

Originally posted by Sam Fischer
Može link pliz?
Totalno sam neupućen u zadnje vrijeme...

nekoliko threadova niže :D

R520XT!!!??

:D : nuts : : nuts : : nuts : : nuts : : CoolRamb

mema na 1,5Ghz!!! riječima: gigaherc i pol!!!

to je znači 1,26ns ak se ne varam??:confused:

još testovi i to je to...:)

Sta bi dao da se tog domognem: nuts :

Citiraj:

Originally posted by Komek
Sta bi dao da se tog domognem: nuts :

Kako sada stvari stoje, trebao bi se onda domoc' i nove ploce i procesora :D

Ma ludnica ce sad bit...eto izgleda da ce i novi ForceWare od nVidia-e drasticno povecat performanse GF7800 grafulja... tako da... you got to love the situation ;)

Pa kad bi je imao odma bi prodao ovu kantu i u ducan po novu:D

Yea...:D uopće mi nije žao kaj sam prešao sa 6xxx serije na 7xxx:) (a kome bi bilo?:D)
1,5GHz? BOOOLESNO: nuts : : nuts :

Citiraj:

Originally posted by ZED-M
PO tim testovima ispada da je kartica losija od gtx-ice, ali i kad dodu pravi testovi to nebude puno bolje nego max 5%
Sad dali to opravdava 1000kn vecu cijenu:rolleyes:

A od 7800GT je skuplja 2000kn.E sad se vracamo na staro pitanje
Nvidija ili Ati. Trenutno sam na Nvidiji zato sto za manje novaca nudi bolje performanse.: Machineg

Citiraj:

Originally posted by Kerber
Trenutno sam na Nvidiji zato sto za manje novaca nudi bolje performanse

Na kraju se sve svodi na ovo. Raspolažeš sa određenom sumom novaca i tražiš grafu koja ti za tu cifru može dati najbolje performanse (u onome što je tebi bitno). Kraj priče.

A ove nove "super-duper-ultra-turbo-brze-skupe" grafe su samo dobar sport - za gledanje! Tek je nekolicina aktivno uključena u taj spor :D

Svejedno... ja volim pratit taj "geek sport" :)

Ja isto! :):)
I zaboravio si nešto reći, to je vrlo,VRLO skup sport :D

A bolje se i sportom baviti nego tu lovu zapiti u birtiji:beer:

Citiraj:

Originally posted by Kerber
A bolje se i sportom baviti nego tu lovu zapiti u birtiji:beer:

lol al bome dobra istina!:clap:

Citiraj:

Originally posted by buljo
lol al bome dobra istina!:clap:

ne trebaš to dvaput reći;)

Glasine, glasine....

Zgaziti 7800GTX u SM3.0?

Shema rada chipa?

3DMark2005?

I dodatne informacije....

Vidit cemo kroz par (nadajmo se) (tje)dana koliko je od ovoga istina...

Re: Glasine, glasine....

Citiraj:

Originally posted by JC Denton

Vidit cemo kroz par (nadajmo se) (tje)dana koliko je od ovoga istina...

još cca. 3 dana i 22 sata

Iskreni meni je ta ATI-jeva politika jako los pristup prema nama kupcima.Samo navode koliko su bolje i naprednije od konkurentnih nVidijinih rjesenja (primitivno).Prateci nVidijine launcheve nisu toliko nabijali prednosti nad ATI-jem.Jest da je imao bolje proizvode od nVidije, ne sumnjam da ce x1k biti brzi ali Boze moj 7mj. kasnije (pa ja i moji u kvartu bi smislili nesto brze).

Dakle los pristup kupcima.Zanima me sta kao x1k ipak nije sve ono sto su navodili tokom 5 mjesecnog launcha.Iskreno, ali i ne vjerojatno dobitak od 3 frame a negdje i gubitak kod x1k ne vrijedi 10xx$ kaj je je.
Uostalom ko je toliko opsjednut kako mu izgledaju kamene ploče u UT2k4.