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The Exiled 21.06.2022. 10:24

E, pa to smo pričali, sad ima neograničene resurse i opet nije dovoljno, ma komedija. Kak kod se okrene i koja god firma bila u pitanju, Raja jednostavno sere kvake i u tome je najbolji.

Ovo da u AMD-u nije ispunil obećano se odnosi na Twitter i PR hype koji je u ono vrijeme plasiral vezano za Vega i Polaris kartice kao da će pomesti nVidiju s lica Zemlje.

I sad u Intelu ista priča već godinama, puni Interneti kojekakvih najava i sličica, a konkretnih proizvoda ni u tragovima, a i kad stignu, prošla baka s kolačima.

Lewis 21.06.2022. 10:32

Raja kad dobije pedalu i iz Intela ostaje mu samo jos Apple kao slijedeci poslodavac kojem moze obecat brda i doline ;).

The Exiled 21.06.2022. 10:36

I to je lako moguće, a biseri u Intelu su ga s dolaskom novog CEO-a, još i promovirali, tak da je sad društvo potpuno.

CEO koji priča bedastoće i Raja koji ih plasira u eter, dok promovira nešto samo što nije.:):D

Manuel Calavera 21.06.2022. 10:37

Nebi se začudio da dobije i taj posao...

Očito se zna prodat, a i apple stalno nešto kemija, svoj API, posebna idanja gpu za njih, sad svoje procesore, nebi se začudio i da im in house gpu padne na pamet, a Raja bude majstor

The Exiled 21.06.2022. 10:43

Nek mu je sa srećom, jer očito da ne može složiti konkretan proizvod bez da napriča hrpu gluposti, ali kak veliš, u AMD-u je za Rajino vrijeme bar nešto došlo na tržište, a sad u Intelu nema ničega.

Manuel Calavera 21.06.2022. 10:57

Nije Vega bila loš proizvod, samo overhypan

Sa fajntjunanjem nije bila ništa manje efikasna od nvidija, a potrošnje od ispod 300w su danas mainstream :D

Čak naprotiv, kad pogledaš sva tržišta (od profesionalne upotrebe, pa sve do igpu) arhitektura je bila hit koju je AMD muzao (i muze) godinama

The Exiled 21.06.2022. 11:00

Je, zato velim, tip non-stop radi takve pizdarije, obeća nešto, pompozno najavi, a onda je lagano hladan tuš, samo za razliku od Vege, sad u Intelu nema ni to.:):D

Disco 21.06.2022. 13:33

Ajme ne, nadam se da Tim Cook ima dovoljno mozga da ne zaposli Raju.
Pa i koliko znam, jabuka ionako oduvijek dere konkurenciju sa svojim GPUima na iOS uređajima.

The Exiled 21.06.2022. 13:48

Raja stručnjak je iz Applea došel u AMD, tak da stvarno ne bi bilo ništa čudno da ga opet prigrle.:):D

Koliko imamo prilike vidjeti, koristi od njega ko od Severine na ispovijedi.:chears:

Disco 21.06.2022. 13:58

Posipam se pepelom, to nisam znao.

The Exiled 21.06.2022. 14:08

Nemaš straha, nije ni u Appleu ništa pametno napravil, ali je fala Bogu pobral zasluge. Možda sam previše skeptičan, jer ovakve (Raja i društvo) prodavače magle gledam i slušam svaki dan kaj kod klijenata, kaj interno u firmi, ali kad netko tko je tehnički potkovan, tj. takav se barem trudi prikazati, počinje pričati hrpu bedastoća za koje jako dobro zna da nemaju nikakvo uporište ni pokriće - tu priča staje, hvala i doviđenja. Godine prolaze, a Raja i dalje nešto najavljuje, dok konkurencija sprema nove generacije proizvoda, a ovi nemaju ni svoju prvu, koja je odavno trebala biti na tržištu da postigne željeni efekt. I onda još za dobru mjeru konstantno odgađaju nove CPU serije i tak unedogled, ali glavno da se priča o nasljednicima.
Joj, cirkus samo takav.
Intel Arc A380 desktop GPU reviews should go live tomorrow
Eto, sutra napokon stiže ARC konkurencija u rangu RX 6500.:chears:

Disco 21.06.2022. 14:14

Larabee i Netburst kažeš? :D

A nije ne, AL je ipak dobar.

The Exiled 21.06.2022. 14:16

Alder Lake je vredu, samo kaj i tu opet posežu za što većim taktom i što višom potrošnjom, da mogu reći da su najboljiJi. I OK, ajde za desktop, ali 100W+ za mobilne modele nema smisla.
EDIT:
:kafa::fiju:

The Exiled 30.06.2022. 08:10

Rajin tajming kao i uvijek dosad - besprijekoran, jao s čim se ovi bave.:):D
Citiraj:

Intel AXG Blockscale ASIC begins shipping as Crypto continues to crumble:kafa:
Citiraj:

Although crypto has crumbled as of late, and the timing may not be ideal, Intel’s Raja Koduri just tweeted that the Intel AXG Custom Compute team's Blockscale ASIC has begun shipping. The Intel Blockscale ASIC is a dedicated Secure Hash Algorithm-256 (SHA-256) processor that is capable of up to a 580 GH/s hash rate at up to 26 J/TH power efficiency. It features support for up to 256 integrated circuits per chain, and features both on-chip temperature and voltage sensing. Intel claims this chip will offer over approximately 1,000x better performance per watt than mainstream GPUs for SHA-256 based mining. Intel has also said it can supply its new Blockscale ASICs in volume without affecting the supply of new CPUs or GPUs.
Izvor: HotHardware
https://i.postimg.cc/fW7j0tmV/Intel.png


the_ghost 04.07.2022. 19:10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdFnY74dVNE

The Exiled 06.07.2022. 12:55

Sad je službeno, ali onak, baš skroz službeno ...
Citiraj:

Ryan Shrout (Graphics Community Engagement at Intel) shows off Intel first Arc desktop GPU. Ryan Shrout posted a video presenting not one, but two GUNNIR A380 Photon cards, seemingly the first custom Arc cards officially at Intel labs. The Photon is a custom model based on Arc A380 GPU with full ACM-G11 GPU with 8 Xe-Cores. As explained, this is a mainstream gaming GPU which is targeted for 1080p gaming at medium settings. Photon’s short demo featured PlayerUnknown’s Battlegrounds game at 2560×1080 resolution. The independent testing has shown that Arc A380 is an entry-level GPU offering slightly lower performance than NVIDIA’s GeForce GTX 1650 or AMD Radeon RX 6400 GPUs.
Ne znaš tko je gori PR, marketing, hype meštar - Raja ili Ryan koji sad ima i novu poziciju.
Citiraj:

Director Graphics Community Engagement and Senior Tech Evangelist at Intel
:chears::goood:

Disco 13.07.2022. 16:21

Ajmo Raja!!! :care::care:


The Exiled 13.07.2022. 18:45

Nije loše, u rangu pet godina starih GeForce i Radeon modela i to, ako je uključen ReBAR.:):D
https://i.postimg.cc/TpmXxbWh/ARC-DGPU-LAN-3.jpg
Citiraj:

EDIT: Recenzija koja to nije, a Ryan Shrout u pozadini pomno prati svaku riječ, tak da PR bude potpun.

Ne znam kaj su mislili, ako odu kod Heavy Metal Stevea, to im automatski daje kredibilitet, posebice Ryanu?

Majke mi ovo je žešće prodavanje magle čak i od kriptovaluta.
:wtf2:


Disco 15.07.2022. 08:41

Da, ovo je baš bilo bzvz. Malo me GN razočarao.

The Exiled 15.07.2022. 13:31

Koliko god da je Tom Petersen vredu i za razliku od Ryana ima kaj pametno za reći, na kraju dana ovo je bila još jedna u nizu marketinških kampanja za proizvod koji i kad napokon stigne na tržište - kasni dvije godine i dvije generacije za konkurencijom. Tom i Ryan su stari pajdaši, a Intel i dalje uporno angažira zaposlenike konkurencije, jer eto - to odmah znači da imaju nešto konkretno. Ne znam kaj je ovo trebalo Heavy Metal Stevenu.:kafa:
Citiraj:

Intel confirms nVidia tech marketing guru, Tom Petersen, has joined its GPU supergroup. Tom Petersen has been a stalwart of nVidia, joining the company in 2005 as Director of Technical Marketing.

Intel had successfully recruited Tom to be an Intel Fellow working with the Game Experience Team. Ryan Shrout Director Graphics Community Engagement and Senior Tech Evangelist at Intel.
Dakle, dva tipa iz marketinga s tom razlikom da je Tom doveden, jer je stvarno inženjer, pa da cijela stvar ne bude prezentirana kao čista reklama kakve inače Linus Sebastian pušta u eter.

Citiraj:

EDIT:
Citiraj:

Performance results shown here are from a small subset of the games, that work very well with Intel® Arc™ and the Alchemist architecture.

I’m not asserting that ALL GAMES will show these results, but it’s a view of what Intel Arc A-series cards are capable of with the right software and engineering enablement.

— Ryan Shrout, Intel
Citiraj:

Intel’s upcoming desktop GPU based on ACM-G10 processor is to offer up to 17% better performance than GeForce RTX 3060 at 2560×1440 resolution in five games.
PoCjetimo se kak je to bilo prije nekoliko godina kad je Škot (1 - 2) prozval Ryana da koristeći PC Perspective i Shrout Research plasira propagandu pod okriljem tzv. recenzija.:chears:
Citiraj:

Intel employees Tom Petersen and Ryan Shrout are on a tour visiting popular YouTubers, where new desktop Arc Alchemist graphics cards are shown for the first time. The company has just revealed their Arc A750 Limited Edition GPU with Gamers Nexus and now the time has come to show the flagship model known as A770. During LinusTechTips WAN Show, we got to see the full card labeled as “Limited Edition” up close. The Limited Edition means that the card has a custom cooling solution equipped with subtle RGB lighting.
Eto, sad je i službeno da su na PR ekskurziji.:):D

Tajl3r 16.07.2022. 16:30

Ljinus je tu sa PR mašinom intela jasno taj bi za lovu i u prkno samo da ima ,ali me čudi GN da im daju platform za reklamu totalnog fejla na danasnjem trzistu GPU.
Pali su mi nisko sa ovim.

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The Exiled 16.07.2022. 16:49

Scott Wasson, Raja Koduri i Tom Petersen su bili česti gosti kod Heavy Metal Stevena proteklih godina i tak jasno da je uvijek u nekoj mjeri marketing u pitanju, ali čim se u pozadini pojavil Ryan Shrout - sve je palo u vodu.

I eto ih onda kod Linusa, kaj je uopće čudno da prvo i jedino nisu otišli u tom smjeru, a konkretnih testova ni u tragovima, samo puno priče, dok Ryan Shrout ne pripremi nešto kaj bi moglo biti slično kakvom rezultatu nekog testa.:kafa:

I taman dok ova družina završi s reklamnom kampanjom, AMD i nVidia izbacuju RX 7000 i RTX 4000, pa je tajming za Intel ARC GPU nikad bolji, dok se jedna A380 jedva bori i zapravo totalno gubi od jadne RX 6400.

Steve se iz petnih žila trudi sve skupa prikazati kao tehnički osvrt na novu nadolazeću GPU arhitekturu i super je da treći igrač ulazi na tržište, pa dajte da vam velimo detalje u razgovoru s inženjerima.:fiju:

Disco 17.07.2022. 07:57

Evo nastavka, nisam još pogledao:


The Exiled 17.07.2022. 13:20

Ah, nastavak PR turneje, snimljeno je isti dan kad i tzv. ARC 750 hands-on, pa je ovo samo daljni razvoj pripreme terena, tak da kad kartice stignu na recenzije, svi odmah mogu reći da su prosječne performanse očekivane.:)
Citiraj:

The flagship of Intel's planned Arc A-Series GPU lineup is the Arc A770 graphics card. It will consume 225W and should trade blows with the RTX 3060 Ti and Radeon 6650 XT while beating the RTX 3060 and Radeon 6600. It is set to debut at or under $399 USD. The A750 is likely going to be the cut down variant of the same chip and will consume 225W but trade blows with the RTX 3060 and RX 6600. The A770 is going to come in 16 and 8 GB variants while the A750 is only going to ship with 8 GB of vRAM.
:fiju::kafa:
EDIT:
Citiraj:

Citiraj:

The ARC A380 does not come close to AMD's and Nvidia's partly old models such as the GeForce GTX 1650 and the Radeon RX 6400 - neither in performance nor in energy efficiency. However, the ARC A380 is by no means a total failure and the video features including AV1 are absolutely first class. But that's absolutely useless if you look at the current driver status of Alchemist. This is currently so bad that it is hard to believe that Intel will be able to raise the quality to a usable level in the next few months."

Citiraj:

I hope no one gets fired for this... cringe-worthy infomercial circus
Citiraj:

I sat down yesterday after the “launch” and collected feedback first. Then I talked to colleagues and also took note of various Intel justifications for the status quo, up to PR appearances on (let’s call it benevolently) Intel-affiliated YouTubers. What irritated me about making comments, however, is the sudden puppy-protector instinct that erupts whenever you want to protect something small and fragile. Yes, it is Intel’s first dedicated graphics card developed for the consumer market in what feels like ages, but it is neither a sympathetic underdog nor a fragile plant that should not be trampled on. Here, a multi-billion corporation with extensively purchased personnel and know-how (also in the heads) as well as many years of development time and almost infinite seeming resources has failed grandiosely. You cannot and must not call it anything else.
Pat now has his first real Vega moment and Raja not the first déjŕ vu.

Izvor: Igor's LAB
Citiraj:

Citiraj:

First of all, we would like to point out that Intel has taken the video for the first benchmarks of the Arc A750 offline again. It showed that the Arc A750 is slightly faster than a GeForce RTX 3060. In a short statement, this step is justified as follows: "We have temporarily taken down the video titled "Intel Arc A750 Limited Edition Graphics Card Performance Showcase" on our Intel Graphics YouTube channel for a necessary update. A new video will be posted soon. All performance data and key takeaways will remain unchanged."So there will be at least one change in the video. However, Intel does not go into the exact reasons.
Izvor: HardwareLUXX
Citiraj:

Citiraj:

Raja is a visionary. He paints a great and compelling picture of the gaming future and features that are required to drive the gaming experience to the next level. He’s great at that.
As far as hands-on silicon execution, his background is in software. He definitely helped AMD to improve our software game and feature sets.
Izvor: Sam Naffziger, AMD senior vice president, corporate fellow and product technology architect
Razlog zbog kojeg je Ryan na turneji je sada još samo dodatno potvrđen, a kad se (neovisni) recenzenti dočepaju jačih ARC A750 i A770 modela, priča bi mogla biti imati nastavak s varijacijom na temu nedovršenih proizvoda.:chears:

The Exiled 27.07.2022. 00:50

Rajini hitovi se nastavljaju, a za razliku od njemačkih recenzija, TechPowerUp cijelu stvar prezentira kao da je Intel maleni startup koji se tek uči i ovo je zapravo jako ogroman korak prema naprijed, posebice u usporedbi s Radeon i GeForce konkurencijom koja ima desetljeća iskustva.:):D Jedini problem s ARC GPU rješenjma je u tome da se svi nadolazeći modeli baziraju na istoj Xe arhitekturi, a ako Raja Koduri na neku ludu foru i uspije dovesti drivere u polufunkcionalno stanje, to i dalje ne mijenja činjenicu da AMD i nVidia već imaju spremne RX 7000 i RTX 4000 modele, dok ARC GPU lovi lanjski snijeg lanjskog snijega mučeći se s RX 6400 i GTX 1650 rješenjima.:chears:
Citiraj:

Intel ARC A380 review - runs fine on AMD Ryzen:kafa:
Citiraj:

Intel is not sampling this card to the press, and it's only available for purchase in China—probably because Intel thinks the Chinese buyers aren't as critical of their purchases as the ones in the West. I also feel that Intel was under pressure from shareholders to finally start shipping their first graphics card to justify the billions spent in research and development. Personally my thoughts are that trying to hide the product from reviewers is the wrong strategy, it just makes things more complicated for everyone involved, including Intel, because they have no way to control things and (try to) influence the narrative in addition to inducing doubts in everyone's minds as to what is wrong with the product.

To say that not everything is smooth sailing with Intel Arc at this time would be an understatement. The official "stable" 101.1743 driver from Intel's website is everything but! I encountered numerous bugs including bluescreens, corrupted desktop after startup, random systems hangs, system getting stuck during shutdown sequences, and more—very frustrating issues that made me ask myself "WTF? Has anybody even tested this driver once?". A couple of times I had to replace the Intel card with an nVidia card so that Windows would actually boot—because the Intel driver can no longer load and that kept breaking things—so I could manually wipe the Intel driver and pray that a new driver install would work better. In order to work around some other issues, I had to connect through Remote Desktop because the Arc card wouldn't send any output to my monitor (most often when no driver installed).

Intel contracted TSMC to fabricate their new GPU, because TSMC is the only company in the world that has a currently working 6 nanometer production process for desktop-class processors. This hints that the Intel chip design using a brand-new 6 nm process can barely compete with the older process nodes used by AMD and NVIDIA, but you have to consider that AMD and NVIDIA have spent over a decade and billions of dollars optimizing their architectures for energy efficiency given that is the only way to scale up now.

https://i.postimg.cc/Tw5B3RCK/Intel-ARC.png

Izvor: TechPowerUp

Mladenxy 27.07.2022. 01:07

kakva je to drlog kartica kad je neupotrebljiva bez RBAR-a...kome oni to misle prodavati osim kinezima :roller:

The Exiled 27.07.2022. 01:30

Mogu se fino slikati, jer arhitektura je za kurac, uzalud im napredni TSMC 6nm proces i sve kaj su pokupovali u smislu ljuCtva od drugih firmi. Ovo nije ni trebalo ugledati svjetlo dana, ali su se zajebali, jer recenzenti sad sami sa svojim nofcima nabavljaju kartice s drugog dijela svijeta. DG1 je prije više od dvije godine prezentiran kao nešto beta, tek toliko da developeri imaju pristup hardveru i evo nas danas.:goood: Znaš da je šou, čim se ističe ARC GPU AV1 hardversko (en)kodiranje, dok Ampere i RDNA 2 imaju samo AV1 dekodiranje, a Ryan Shrout ide okolo s pajdašom iz marketinga pričajući o svemu, samo ne o konkretnim specifikacijama i performansama, koje su samo na slajdovima, koji se pak kasnije miču sa službenog Intel Graphics JubiTo kanala.
:wtf2::lol2:

stitrek 27.07.2022. 08:01

Ponekad imam misljenje kao da je Končar razvijao kartice a ne gigant kao Intel.

Vidim da je i AsRock krenuo proizvoditi A380, hoce li uopce izlaziti na zapadno trziste i hoce li ih biti u ponudi, te kakvu sudbinu ceka Arc 2 ako je Arc 1 totalna abominacija.

The Exiled daj reci da ima svjetla na kraju tunela :D

Disco 27.07.2022. 08:12

Nebi me čudilo da imaju odličnu HW acceleraciju za Powerpoint.

The Exiled 27.07.2022. 09:19

To sigurno imaju super posloženo.:):D Jedino još fali Hardware Unboxed recenzija da zacementira već potvrđene ARC A380 performanse i to je to.

A750 i A770 bi trebali biti besplatni i bez ikakvih problema u rangu RTX 3060 (Ti) i RX 6600 (XT) da ih se razmatra kao opciju.

Posebice uz sadašnji pad cijena i nadolazeće RTX 4000 i RX 7000 modele.:frend:

Citiraj:

EDIT:
Obzirom da nisu vratili onaj video u kojem ovaj stručnjak pokazuje ARC A750 performanse u rangu ili bolje od RTX 3060, pitanje je vremena kad i ovaj video misteriozno nestane sa službenog Intel Graphics kanala.:kafa:

Disco 29.07.2022. 05:38

Nisam još gledao, ali naslov zvuči obećavajuće :beer:


Mladenxy 29.07.2022. 08:37

šteta ak ne izguraju do kraja i ne naprave upotrebljiv i konkurentan GPU idućih godina, koji bi uzdrmao duopol. Potrošačima to definitivno treba unatoč trenutnom padu cijena.

The Exiled 29.07.2022. 08:51

U slučaju da je sve vezano uz ARC GPU bilo odrađeno kak spada i da nemaju ama baš nikakvih problema, opet su zakasnili dvije godine u odnosu na konkurenciju.

Žalosno kak god se okrene, jer da bi ARC GPU modeli imali utjecaj na cijene, trebali su biti na tržištu još 2020. i to bi onda bila sasvim druga priča.

Ovo skrivanje i pokazivanje svega, samo ne konkretnih performansi uz ionak mutne likove poput Raje i Ryana je samo dodatna pizdarija.
EDIT:
Citiraj:

Intel takes iGPU driver shortcut for ARC gaming GPUs, crashes unto ditch:kafa:
Citiraj:

Early this year, Intel disclosed plans to ship four million discrete ARC Alchemist gaming GPUs in 2022, but many observers considered the target rather conservative. Now, following multiple launch delays and limited availability, Intel said this week that it would miss its discrete GPU shipments this year. Surprisingly, the company blames its drivers for the integrated graphics built into its CPUs for the delays and lower-than-expected sales of its discrete GPU lineup. Intel really needed all-new drivers written from scratch to roll out its discrete gaming GPUs for desktops and laptops. However, its drivers for discrete gaming GPUs were not on par with those offered by AMD and nVidia because it chose to use the same graphics drivers as it used for the low-powered integrated graphics present in its CPUs.

"Our software release on our discrete graphics was clearly underperforming," said Gelsinger. "We thought that we would be able to leverage the integrated graphics software stack, and it was wholly inadequate for the performance levels, gaming compatibility, etc. that we needed. So we are not hitting our four million unit goal in the discrete graphics space, even as we are now catching up and getting better software releases." It's a bit mind boggling that Intel even thought its integrated graphics drivers would be appropriate for desktop GPUs that potentially deliver up to 20X more compute performance than even its best integrated GPUs.
Izvor: Tom's Hardware
Citiraj:

Intel's Vice President of Accelerated Computing Systems and Graphics (AXG), Raja Koduri, went on Twitter to state that Intel Graphics is very much committed to their roadmap and they are ramping Alchemist (Intel Arc A-Series) and will continue to improve the experience. Raja also states that AXG is on track to ramp four new product lineups by the end of this year. We know that Ponte Vecchio and Alchemist will be shipping to consumers by the end of this quarter & we can expect the company to also ramp production of Arc-infused Meteor Lake 14th Gen chips which Pat Gelsinger stated will be available in 2023 during the Q2 2022 earnings call. The company will also be sampling its next-gen Rialto Bridge AI GPU to customers in 2023.
Dakle, stručnjaci samo takvi zajedno s direktorom na čelu parade i nema ništa vjerodostojnije od Raje na Twitteru kad priča da sve ide prema planu i programu.:stoopid::wtf2:
Possible "launch date" for Intel’s ARC A5xx and A7xx graphics cards leaked
Citiraj:

Are they coming, or aren’t they? And if so, when? Various media had again written or spoken about a delay, but Intel is said to have now internally decided on a narrower time frame. If they’re going to stick to the current timeframe, the range that’s being colocated to me now is between Aug. 05, 2022 and Sept. 29, 2022. This means that there is enough time to launch the three announced larger models one slice at a time. It is interesting that the internal documents no longer report about a large-scale, joint launch event, but it could rather be a kind of “silent” launch, which could be carried out gradually in the retail sector and via only a few media.

In addition, Intel is obviously preparing already finished cards internally, which will then be made available to handpicked media representatives at short notice for reporting. Which continent will be sampled at all and how broadly the launch will be is, however, completely open. However, the choice of reporters (and content) is unlikely to be left to chance, especially since the board partners were strictly briefed in advance on how to handle the products they produced themselves. Objective reviews will probably only be available when the cards are finally available in stores.

The procedure is not even unusual, because manufacturers are already quite happy to hide their rather “unloved” children. No matter if it’s the Radeon RX 6400 or the GeForce GTX 1630, you always have to laboriously get such parts yourself because you always fear image damage on the part of the manufaturers. Wrongly, if one were to trust the objectivity of the reviewers, but it’s better to generally leave no stone unturned. Based on my experience with the Arc A380 and the imponderables of the drivers (last test with the 3220 and 3259 BETA ) as well as the hardware, one can definitely wait with mixed feelings for what is coming (or maybe not).

I can also spoil that I’ll be posting more details on Sapphire Rapids on Monday, but I need some verification on that. So it’s worth taking a look.
Izvor: Igor'sLAB

The Exiled 01.08.2022. 13:42

:chears::frend:

stitrek 01.08.2022. 22:37

@The Exiled

Bilo je bolje da su rijesili te drivere pa izbacili slab ali funcionalan entry proizvod za ok cijenu, nego izbaciti poluproizvod.

Interesantno je da gigant kao Intel moze raditi ovakve gafove u 2022. Bilo je bolje da su sve resurse utrosili u razvoj entry kartica do 200$, pa onda kroz godine postepeno medium i high end.

The Exiled 01.08.2022. 22:41

Uzeli su Xe iGPU, pokušali napraviti up-scale za desktop, zato je i potreban ReBAR uvijek i non-stop, driveri su smetje neviđeno, jer prema riječima direktora mislili su da bude to OK i sad imaju to kaj imaju.

Ovo je sve na ho-ruk, bez konkretnog plana i razvoja, samo puno priče i PowerPoint prezentacija i stvarno me ne bi čudilo da cijeli ARC GPU projekt otkažu. Ne kužim ko bi dal nofce za ovo.

nVidia i AMD kakvi god da jesu sa svojim hardverskim i softverskim rješnjima, ipak su van galaksije i potpuno nedostižni za moćan Intel koji danas muku muči sa svime kaj najavi.

stitrek 01.08.2022. 22:51

Raja je radio na Polarisu i Vegi i sigurno je znao prve ideje o Rdna arhitekturi, pa mogao im je on sugerirati da razviju projekt kako treba, ili je mozda pred penziju htio skupiti vise para, a Intel ima toga na bacanje :D

The Exiled 01.08.2022. 22:55

Ma taj frajer je muljator samo takav, ali takvi su sad u većini u Intelu, pa nek se vesele.
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Raja is a visionary. He paints a great and compelling picture of the gaming future and features that are required to drive the gaming experience to the next level. He’s great at that.
As far as hands-on silicon execution, his background is in software. He definitely helped AMD to improve our software game and feature sets.
Izvor: Sam Naffziger, AMD senior vice president, corporate fellow and product technology architect
Na kraju bude ispalo da je Raja kuhal kave, dok je netko drugi radil na GPU arhitekturama, a ovaj je na kraju pobral vrhnje.

Otkad je ova tema otvorena i čim je objavljeno da Raja ide u Intel, komentirali smo da bude ARC GPU na neki način ispal zajeb i ovo danas je još gore.

Sve u svemu, obzirom na trenutnu situaciju, IMHO Intel prvom prilikom gasi ARC GPU, Raja odlazi zajedno s Ryanom Shroutom u potrazi za novim naivcima.
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Autor The Exiled (Post 3540150)
Da, hrpu toga su obećali i najavili, a kad vidim da ženska prilikom XeSS tech-demo materijala, prvo krene na Space tipku, tako da odpauzira unaprijed pripremljen video - pitanje je da li se pokazano uopće ikad odvrtjelo na konkretnom hardveru, odnosno da li Intel uopće ima svoje rješenje stvarno spremno ili je sve zapravo samo izrenderirano (na čijem već hardveru) u Unreal Engineu i onda dodatno filtritano (blur, sharpness, itd.), tako da se stvore side-by-side razlike. Nažalost, ne bi bilo ni prvi ni zadnji put da se nešto prikazuje onakvim kakvim bi htjeli da bude (1 - 2), mada realno nije blizu tome, ali OK - budemo pričekali finalni proizvod.

Sudeći na drivere, bojim se da bude i ovo ispalo istina. Nažalost. Jebo ih driveri koji kompletno skrše cijeli OS.

stitrek 01.08.2022. 23:04

I to vodstvo Intela je inertno, ponasaju se kao nekakva drzavna firma koja je puna para ali i uhljeba, jer da im je zakuhalo slicno kao Amd-u trzli bi se i sinergijski kreativno razvili nove proizvode.

Super-Baka Lisa je za njih svih svemirski brod :D

The Exiled 01.08.2022. 23:07

Sadašnji CEO je tu samo radi 100 milijuna dolara u plaći i dionicama, jer prije je uredno odbil pozive na sadašnje mjesto, ali sad (za Intel) s katastrofalnim financijskim izvješćima i to je upitno.

Boli njih briga za hardver, softver i tehniku općenito, dokle god su pare na računima, ali fino su si smjestili kak kod se okrene, pa nek se sad vade iz toga.

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EDIT:
RX 6400 je nedosanjani san u odnosu na ARC A380, a užasna cijena je zapravo najveća mana ove šrot Radeon kartice.:):D

Performanse kakve god da jesu, tu su, a driveri rade bez greške. Ista stvar s "užasnom" GeForce GTX 1630 ili 1650.:goood:

Raja Koduri feels AMD's software ecosystem is meaningless without Intel :kafa::fiju:


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