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trebalo je scroll-at dole, hebga :D.
stavio i njega sad da isprobam.
zapelo mi je za oko da on nema mogucnost translate-a?

Meni taj translate samo smeta a vjerojarno ima kakav extension te namjene.

Citiraj:

Tech entrepreneur/blogger Anil Dash has been critical of AI browsers like ChatGPT Atlas. (He's written that Atlas "substitutes its own AI-generated content for the web, but it looks like it's showing you the web," while its prompt-based/command-line interface resembles a clunky text adventure, and it's true purpose seems to be ingesting more training data.)

And at the Mozilla Festival in Spain, "Virtually everyone shared some version of what I'd articulated as the majority view on AI, which is approximately that LLMs can be interesting as a technology, but that Big Tech, and especially Big AI, are decidedly awful and people are very motivated to stop them from committing their worst harms upon the vulnerable."

But...

Citiraj:

Another reality that people were a little more quiet in acknowledging, and sometimes reluctant to engage with out loud, is the reality that hundreds of millions of people are using the major AI tools every day... I don't know why today's Firefox users, even if they're the most rabid anti-AI zealots in the world, don't say, "well, even if I hate AI, I want to make sure Firefox is good at protecting the privacy of AI users so I can recommend it to my friends and family who use AI"...

My personal wishlist would be pretty simple:

* Just give people the "shut off all AI features" button. It's a tiny percentage of people who want it, but they're never going to shut up about it, and they're convinced they're the whole world and they can't distinguish between being mad at big companies and being mad at a technology so give them a toggle switch and write up a blog post explaining how extraordinarily expensive it is to maintain a configuration option over the lifespan of a global product.

* Market Firefox as "The best AI browser for people who hate Big AI". Regular users have no idea how creepy the Big AI companies are — they've just heard their local news talk about how AI is the inevitable future. If Mozilla can warn me how to protect my privacy from ChatGPT, then it can also mention that ChatGPT tells children how to self-harm, and should be aggressive in engaging with the community on how to build tools that help mitigate those kinds of harms — how do we catalyze that innovation?

* Remind people that there isn't "a Firefox" — everyone is Firefox. Whether it's Zen, or your custom build of Firefox with your favorite extensions and skins, it's all part of the same story. Got a local LLM that runs entirely as a Firefox extension? Great! That should be one of the many Firefoxes, too. Right now, so much of the drama and heightened emotions and tension are coming from people's (well... dudes') egos about there being One True Firefox, and wanting to be the one who controls what's in that version, as an expression of one set of values. This isn't some blood-feud fork, there can just be a lot of different choices for different situations. Make it all work.

Citiraj:

"Fresh from announcing it is building an AI browsing mode in Firefox and laying the groundwork for agentic interactions in the Firefox 145 release, the corp arm of Mozilla is now flexing its AI muscles in the direction of those more likely to care," writes the blog OMG Ubuntu:

Citiraj:

If you're a developer building AI agents, you can sign up to get early access to Mozilla's TABS API, a "powerful web content extraction and transformation toolkit designed specifically for AI agent builders"... The TABS API enables devs to create agents to automate web interactions, like clicking, scrolling, searching, and submitting forms "just like a human". Real-time feedback and adaptive behaviours will, Mozilla say, offer "full control of the web, without the complexity."

As TABS is not powered by a Mozilla-backed LLM you'll need to connect it to your choice of third-party LLM for any relevant processing... Developers get 1,000 requests monthly on the free tier, which seems reasonable for prototyping personal projects. Complex agentic workloads may require more. Though pricing is yet to be locked in, the TABS API website suggests it'll cost ~$5 per 1000 requests. Paid plans will offer additional features too, like lower latency and, somewhat ironically, CAPTCHA solving so AI can 'prove' it's not a robot on pages gated to prevent automated activities.

Google, OpenAI, and other major AI vendors offer their own agentic APIs. Mozilla is pitching up late, but it plans to play differently. It touts a "strong focus on data minimisation and security", with scraped data treated ephemerally — i.e., not kept. As a distinction, that matters. AI agents can be given complex online tasks that involve all sorts of personal or sensitive data being fetched and worked with.... If you're minded to make one, perhaps without a motivation to asset-strip the common good, Mozilla's TABS API look like a solid place to start.

Citiraj:

As Mozilla moves forward, we will focus on becoming the trusted software company. This is not a slogan. It is a direction that guides how we build and how we grow. It means three things.

First: Every product we build must give people agency in how it works. Privacy, data use, and AI must be clear and understandable. Controls must be simple. AI should always be a choice — something people can easily turn off. People should know why a feature works the way it does and what value they get from it.
Second: our business model must align with trust. We will grow through transparent monetization that people recognize and value.
Third: Firefox will grow from a browser into a broader ecosystem of trusted software. Firefox will remain our anchor. It will evolve into a modern AI browser and support a portfolio of new and trusted software additions.

> Mozilla’s next chapter: Building the world’s most trusted software company

Sad smo nahebali. Od odličnog browsera će napraviti AIO program ili čak OS.
Isto onako kako je Nero od odličnog programa za prženje postao svaštara tj. s**nje.

A moraju rasti nekamo. Moraju manageri projekte staviti u CV.

Firefox Dev Clarifies New AI Feature Killswitch: "I Hope We Can (Re)gain Your Trust Here"

Citiraj:

The dev's post reads: "All AI features will also be opt-in. I think there are some grey areas in what 'opt-in' means to different people (e.g. is a new toolbar button opt-in?), but the kill switch will absolutely remove all that stuff, and never show it in future. That's unambiguous." He goes on to urge users to give the development team a chance to "(re)gain your trust," likely referring to the aforementioned data collection policy that became controversial for being introduced as an opt-out feature that most users will likely never interact with. While it remains to be seen how the kill switch will be implemented, these reassurances address some of the concerns about AI in software tools like browsers—namely security and the environmental impact—although there are still those who bemoan the fact that these AI features will be using up valuable development resources that might be better spent working on features and tech that would improve performance or be of more use to those who use Firefox or one of its many derivatives as their main browser.

I to još dok ne ubrojimo da je Chromium brži, bez obzira dal tehnološki superioriniji ili umjetnim dampeningom web stranica. Najveći problem je u svemu tome da je na čelu Mozille kao korporacije/ustanove/šta već ekipa nesposobnjakovića i sve je bilo OK dok je google pumpao lovu. Odkad to nije slucaj oni se nisu sposobni reorganizirati. Kad projekat jednom izda vlastita načela u očima korisnika pada. Ponovo steći povjerenje korisnika je u takvim slučajevima teško ili nemoguće. Mislim da ako se to dogodi, Mozilla u ovom formatu neće preživjeti.

Jel cromium ikad riješio hw accel videa na linuxu?
Ne koristim to, a zadnje kad sam provjeravao radilo za razliku od firefoxa gdje radi uredno :)

Citiraj:

Autor c-shadow (Post 3836831)

Jel cromium ikad riješio hw accel videa na linuxu?
Ne koristim to, a zadnje kad sam provjeravao radilo za razliku od firefoxa gdje radi uredno :)

Youtube mi radi malko bolje. Na FF YT blokira dosta svaki video par sekundi prije nego starta video. Ostalim se iskreno nisam zamarao.

Citiraj:

Autor c-shadow (Post 3836831)

Jel cromium ikad riješio hw accel videa na linuxu?
Ne koristim to, a zadnje kad sam provjeravao radilo za razliku od firefoxa gdje radi uredno :)

Navodno radi sa waylandom i libva-nvidia-driver, nisam probao, ne koristim wayland.

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic....36902#p2236902
https://archlinux.org/packages/extra...-nvidia-driver

Na X11 kod mene Chromium i dalje ne radi, dok Firefox radi uredno.

Da, ja sam isto još na X11, ali intel iGPU.
FF radi uredno, pred ponešto verzija proradio je i HEVC hw decode u browseru što nije prije radilo.

Ja FF koristim primarno od 2016te kako je chromium program izbacio GDI text rendring i nisam nikad imao potrebe da se vratim na chrome. Ponekad probam i to je to. Ne znam kako sam Chrome danas radi jer ne zelim da sam ulogovan non stop na google acc ali meni FF daleko bolje radi nego Brave. Mozda sto isti ima gomilu fuinkcija ali nekako je sve na delay. Mislim da je overall chromium program postao trom.

Ako FF ode full ka AI, od mene imaju mahanje. Ali na na zalost, AI agenti ce postati standard.

Nemrem sad nać link, ali izjavili su da bude postojao neki "master kill switch" s kojim će se sve te AI điđemiđe moći u potpunosti isključiti.
Tak da netreba paničariti i prejudicirati, hopefully.

Od browsera sam koristio samo dva, IE max. po ure da skinem FF na novo instaliranim WIN OS i tako preko 20 god.
Taj "chromium" ne znam ni kako izgleda na desktopu.