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To baš i nije tako, osim ako pod brzo misliš na godine (što zaista je brzo u tom kontekstu). Za sve što je ispod 8nm(il neki druge sitne vrijenosti, ne sjećam se) trebaju ASML tj. Leica strojevi. Ne postoji drugi dobavljač.

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Autor Exy (Post 3642677)

Ameri pokazuju tko je glavni, imat će najnapredniji proces na planetu na svom tlu. Europa naravno gleda i glumi gljivu.

Budemo uveli embargo na izvoz strojeva i to je to :D

Ameri pokazuju tko je glavni, imat će najnapredniji proces na planetu na svom tlu. Europa naravno gleda i glumi gljivu.

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Autor Pupo (Post 3642673)

Svi trebaju ASML, nema druge, ono kaj hoću reći da TSMC sve kaj najavi sprovode u realnost, jer taj 5nm FAB u Arizoni bude izbacival wafere, prije, nego Intel uopće krene s postavljanjem opreme u svoje fabrike, a u međuvremenu TSMC već složi 3nm koji ide sad usporedno s ovim 5nm koji se već priprema za proizvodnju. Znam da za to trebaju godine, tak jasno, samo velim da su već prošle te godine i TSMC je svoje najave ostvaril i općenito ih ostvaruje, dok Intel i dalje čeka da ih netko sprovede na pravi put ili da konkurencija jednostavno nestane prek noći.:)

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Autor Exy (Post 3642677)

Ameri pokazuju tko je glavni, imat će najnapredniji proces na planetu na svom tlu. Europa naravno gleda i glumi gljivu.

Da, pa samo Apple, AMD i nVidia (bome i Intel u zadnje vrijeme) tuku gadne pare za TSMC, a sve redom domaće američke firme, tak da imaju itekakav interes.

Da li postoji u EU tvornica wafera uopće, a da bas nisu iz devesprve?

Ima Intel svoje u Irskoj i GloFo u Dresdenu, ali i EU sad po uzoru na USA želi svoj CHIPS Act, pa da se sve više toga na modernim proizvodnim procesima slaže diljem Europe.

Intel Foundry and ARM to collaborate on 1.8nm mobile SoCs:kafa:

Citiraj:

Arm and Intel Foundry Services on Wednesday announced plans to conduct design technology co-optimization (DTCO) and system technology co-optimization (STCO) for Arm's mobile IP on the Intel 18A fabrication technology (1.8nm-class). The plan will enable clients of Arm and IFS to maximize performance, lower power consumption, and optimize die sizes of their upcoming SoCs involving Arm's IP. Under the agreement, Intel Foundry Services and Arm will co-optimize Arm's IP and Intel's 18A fabrication process to increase the performance, power, area, and cost advantages of the new node. The two companies will initially focus on mobile SoC designs, but may eventually expand their collaboration to automotive, aerospace, datacenter, Internet of Things, and government applications. As part of the pact, Arm and IFS will develop reference design and optimized process developers kits for mobile SoCs.

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The deal won’t see Intel’s Foundry Services division produce chipsets for ARM. Instead, it will make it easier for ARM licensees, including the likes of Qualcomm and MediaTek, to hire Intel to make chips in the future.:):D

When it comes to Intel's 18A fabrication process, there are a lot of things that can be optimized on node and design level to extract more PPAC advantages out of the node. One of the key innovations of Intel 18A is usage of gate-all-around (GAA) transistors that Intel calls RibbonFET. In GAA transistors, the channels are horizontally oriented and completely enclosed by gates. These GAA channels are created through epitaxy and selective material removal, enabling designers to fine-tune them by altering the transistor channels' width to get higher performance or lower power consumption. If everything works well, such control allows them to reduce transistor leakage current and performance variability — this provides great opportunities for DTCO.

Izvor: Tom's Hardware

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nVidia and AMD are planning Arm-based CPUs for consumer PCs: Intel's shares tumbled following the news:kafa:

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Forward-looking: An Arm revolution could be coming to the PC as soon as 2025. According to a new report, nVidia is planning to launch CPUs based on the architecture designed specifically to run Windows, while AMD also plans to go down the same route. It's concerning news for Intel, which saw its share price fall 5% on the back of the claims. Reuters' unnamed sources say that Nvidia, which already dominates the AI, HPC, and consumer graphics card industries, is expanding its portfolio to include Arm-based processors for client Windows PCs. AMD is also planning to make PC processors based on Arm's designs.

The report says that Microsoft is encouraging others to enter the Arm-based systems market once the current exclusivity deal it has with Qualcomm ends next year. In 2016, Microsoft chose the company to bring the full Windows experience to Arm-powered devices. "Microsoft learned from the 90s that they do not want to be dependent on Intel again, they do not want to be dependent on a single vendor," Jay Goldberg, chief executive of D2D Advisory, told Reuters. "If Arm really took off in PC (chips), they were never going to let Qualcomm be the sole supplier."

nVidia has plenty of experience with Arm-based processors. Its product stack includes the Grace-Hopper and Grace CPU Super Chips. There's also its Tegra SoC that powered tablets and phones and is still found in the Nintendo Switch and nVidia Shield. An early version of the Tegra was also used in Microsoft's first Surface tablet, the Surface RT, but the device never gained many fans and was discontinued a year later. AMD, meanwhile, uses Arm cores in products such as its Versal FPGAs. The company was even rumored to be working on an Arm-based Apple M1 rival back in 2020.

Izvor: TechSpot

Ako će Nvidia upariti svoj GPU i AI dio s ARM jezgrom, mislim da će i AMD i Intel i Apple imati poštenog konkurenta.

S obzirom kaj je Qualcomm najavil sa Elite X procevima, moglo bi biti prilično čupavo na tržištu u sljedećih godinu-dve.

Ak je istina kaj su najavili, ja ne vidim kak bu x86 preživel u laptopu u sljedećih 5 godina

Ak ne slože x86 virtualizaciju nitko to neće kupovati.

Virtualizacija već sad dela prilično dobro, s tim da već dost korištenih programa je već napravljeno za ARM

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Autor BinaryJesus (Post 3705784)

Ak ne slože x86 virtualizaciju nitko to neće kupovati.

Veći je problem Windowsa, nisu još dobro optimizirali. Na Linuxu i MacOSX rade jako dobro.

Ekipa koja je radila M1 prešli su na Qualcomm već tri godine. Veći problem je M2 i budući M3 sa viška memorije. Bit će smiješno M3 sa 12gb memorije.

Intel boss Pat Gelsinger calls Arm's PC threat "insignificant":hitthewal: - sve oko njega gori, ali Intelov glavni direktor i dalje u eter plasira kojekakve zanimljivosti.

nVidia Grace Hopper praktički nema konkurencije, šrot AMD i dalje uzima svoj komad tržišta, ARM se već ionak udomaćil na serverskom polju, ali ne - Pat i Mat u Intelu ne vjeruje da će ARM biti ikakav problem za njegovu firmu.

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"Intel quarterly figures: A loss in sales, a business closure, a good outlook and an increase in shares. Intel CEO Gelsinger dismisses 'pretty insignificant' Arm PC challenge."

Da, baš nemaju razloga za brigu. :)

Evo im ovo:
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2023/...ring-m3-chips/

To je to, isti taj CEO od prvog dana priča kak bude vratil Apple opet na Intel, kaj po pitanju CPU-a, kaj po pitanju proizvodnje Apple custom-made SoC rješenja.:):D

Hajde malo da dignem thread... :)

Vec sam pisao o tome kako mi se svidio ARM Chromebook ovdje: https://www.reddit.com/r/chromeos/co...stop_worrying/ a sada imam nesto sasvim novo pa ce mozda nekome biti zanimljivo. E sad imam nesto sasvim novo...

TLDR; (ne samo Appleov) ARM je zaista postao first class citizen u klasicnom workstation smislu i zaista se moze ucinkovito raditi na njemu ako imate neke specificne potrebe.

Pa da pocnemo - NXP LX2160A ima 16 jezgara do 2.2 GHz, 8MB L2 cachea i 8MB L3 "platform cache" i razne mrežne kombinacije u SoC-u. LX2160A je nominalno klasicni embedded procesor ali je optimiziran za mrežna rješenja. SoC ima dual channel DDR4-3200 kontroler i podržava ECC, a TDP je 30W. Naravno, kako sam rekao, radi se o mrežnom SoC-u (100GbE i svaštanešto), ali je SolidRunov SoM koji je na njihovoj ClearFog CX LX2 ITX ploči s ATX konektorom i PCI-E konektorom. Konkretno, radi se o ovom hardveru: https://www.solid-run.com/arm-server...x2-workstation

To sada vec pomalo zvuci kao nesto na sto bi covjek mogao natociti i nesto sto nije stravicno unutar embedded svijeta. Pa sam se malo poigrao, i to je na kraju rezultiralo time da sam slozio puni funkcionalni solidno brzi ARM workstation.

Chip lijepo radi overclockiran, takt 2.2 GHz (original 2 GHz), FSB 800 MHz (original 700 MHz) Ovih 200njak MHz gore mu sasvim dobro dodje (testovi ispod) Isto tako, malo Grunfovanja je bilo potrebno, ali u konacnici sam zadovoljan rezultatom.

Meni je cijena hardvera (barem sto se SolidRun hardvera tice) bila "transparentna" (hardver je kupljen, odradio je svoju svrhu i skuplja manje prasine samo zato sto je u ladici), a "dodatnog" hardvera sam se nakupovao u visini ~150€. Prije svega, tu je Thermaltake Mini ITX Core X1 kuciste koje je *apsolutno* smece i ne vrijedi niti 60€ koliko sam ga platio. Nije mi se dalo kombinirati s nekim relativno starim napajanjima koje sam imao u uredu pa sam odabrao jeftini EVGA 450W BR za 50€, a s obzirom da me uzasno iritirao hladnjak koji je na SoM-u, iskoristio sam stari LC-Power LC-CC-95 cooler. Takodjer, na Njuskalu sam uzeo Asusovu RT 550 2GB sto je sasvim dovoljno za dva monitora koliko mi treba, a ipak nije predpotopna kao nekakva ATI kartica koju sam nasao da bih isprobao AMD boot uopce.

Slike su ovdje, a ispod ide malo brojeva. Imate sliku "originalne" plocice i onda mojeg Grunf moda, koji je efektivno full load spustio sa ~70°C na ~50° C.

SolidRun HoneyComb LX2 (NXP Layerscape LX2160A) as a Workstation

OpenBenchmark.org Timed Linux Kernel Compilation 1.15.0 - average of 3 runs

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2x Intel Xeon Gold 6148         -        59.90 s

2x Intel Xeon E5-2680 v4        -        92.92 s

AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2920X    -        97.52 s

2x Intel Xeon E5-2620 v4        -       160.17 s

NXP LX2160A@2.2GHz              -       854.50 s

NXP LX2160A                     -       913.06 s

Geekbench 6

https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu...ine=%205134441 vs. iEi PUZZLE-M801
https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu...ine=%205134441 vs. Lenovo Lenovo Duet 5
https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu...ine=%205134441 2.0GHz vs. 2.2GHz

lshw

Code:

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       bus info: usb@4

       logical name: usb4

       version: 6.05

       capabilities: usb-3.00

       configuration: driver=hub slots=1 speed=5000Mbit/s

     *-usb

          description: USB hub

          vendor: Cypress Semiconductor Corp.

          physical id: 1

          bus info: usb@4:1

          version: 50.10

          capabilities: usb-3.00

          configuration: driver=hub slots=4 speed=5000Mbit/s

        *-usb

             description: Mass storage device

             product: SanDisk 3.2Gen1

             vendor: USB

             physical id: 1

             bus info: usb@4:1.1

             logical name: scsi4

             version: 1.00

             serial: 0501643331fb46db684b470e50a4b5c094a79c387f7326976d702543b9aa666308ce000000000000

             capabilities: usb-3.00 scsi emulated scsi-host

             configuration: driver=usb-storage maxpower=896mA speed=5000Mbit/s

           *-disk

                description: SCSI Disk

                product: SanDisk 3.2Gen1

                vendor: USB

                physical id: 0.0.0

                bus info: scsi@4:0.0.0

                logical name: /dev/sda

                version: 1.00

                serial: 0501643331fb46db684b

                size: 14GiB (15GB)

                capabilities: removable

                configuration: ansiversion=6 logicalsectorsize=512 sectorsize=512

              *-medium

                   physical id: 0

                   logical name: /dev/sda

                   size: 14GiB (15GB)

                   capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos

                   configuration: signature=17b3f8f1

                 *-volume

                      description: Windows FAT volume

                      vendor: mkfs.fat

                      physical id: 1

                      logical name: /dev/sda1

                      logical name: /media/bubba/F(X)

                      version: FAT32

                      serial: 6f90-6712

                      size: 14GiB

                      capacity: 14GiB

                      capabilities: primary fat initialized

                      configuration: FATs=2 filesystem=fat label=F(X) mount.fstype=vfat mount.options=rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,uid=1000,gid=1000,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,showexec,utf8,flush,errors=remount-ro state=mounted

  *-input

       product: Power Button

       physical id: 5

       logical name: input0

       logical name: /dev/input/event0

       capabilities: platform

  *-network

       description: Ethernet interface

       physical id: 6

       logical name: eth0

       serial: d0:63:b4:04:67:8b

       size: 1Gbit/s

       capacity: 1Gbit/s

       capabilities: ethernet physical tp mii 10bt-fd 100bt-fd 1000bt-fd autonegotiation

       configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=fsl_dpaa2_eth driverversion=6.5.0-21-generic duplex=full firmware=7.17 ip=192.168.101.217 link=yes multicast=yes port=twisted pair speed=1Gbit/s

lspci/lsusb

Code:

0002:01:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: Samsung Electronics Co Ltd NVMe SSD Controller SM981/PM981/PM983

0004:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Lexa PRO [Radeon 540/540X/550/550X / RX 540X/550/550X] (rev c7)

0004:01:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Baffin HDMI/DP Audio [Radeon RX 550 640SP / RX 560/560X]



Bus 004 Device 003: ID 0781:5583 SanDisk Corp. Ultra Fit

Bus 004 Device 002: ID 04b4:6500 Cypress Semiconductor Corp. 

Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub

Bus 003 Device 004: ID 0424:2514 Microchip Technology, Inc. (formerly SMSC) USB 2.0 Hub

Bus 003 Device 003: ID 046d:c30e Logitech, Inc. UltraX Keyboard (Y-BL49)

Bus 003 Device 002: ID 04b4:6502 Cypress Semiconductor Corp. CY4609

Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub

Bus 001 Device 002: ID 046d:c534 Logitech, Inc. Unifying Receiver

Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

PassMark@2.0GHz

Code:

                   PassMark PerformanceTest Linux (11.0.1002)





Cortex-A72 (aarch64)

16 cores @ 0 MHz  |  62.1 GiB RAM

Number of Processes: 16  |  Test Iterations: 1  |  Test Duration: Medium

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

CPU Mark:                          5080

  Integer Math                     51534 Million Operations/s

  Floating Point Math              20042 Million Operations/s

  Prime Numbers                    22.9 Million Primes/s

  Sorting                          23638 Thousand Strings/s

  Encryption                       1422 MB/s

  Compression                      41362 KB/s

  CPU Single Threaded              552 Million Operations/s

  Physics                          530 Frames/s

  Extended Instructions (NEON)     3422 Million Matrices/s



Memory Mark:                       1215

  Database Operations              4340 Thousand Operations/s

  Memory Read Cached               7530 MB/s

  Memory Read Uncached             6116 MB/s

  Memory Write                     7613 MB/s

  Available RAM                    57643 Megabytes

  Memory Latency                   106 Nanoseconds

  Memory Threaded                  24879 MB/s

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

PassMark@2.2GHz

Code:

                   PassMark PerformanceTest Linux (11.0.1002)





Cortex-A72 (aarch64)

16 cores @ 0 MHz  |  62.1 GiB RAM

Number of Processes: 16  |  Test Iterations: 1  |  Test Duration: Medium

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

CPU Mark:                          5554

  Integer Math                     56907 Million Operations/s

  Floating Point Math              22186 Million Operations/s

  Prime Numbers                    23.0 Million Primes/s

  Sorting                          25588 Thousand Strings/s

  Encryption                       1577 MB/s

  Compression                      45227 KB/s

  CPU Single Threaded              608 Million Operations/s

  Physics                          537 Frames/s

  Extended Instructions (NEON)     3786 Million Matrices/s



Memory Mark:                       1315

  Database Operations              4656 Thousand Operations/s

  Memory Read Cached               8286 MB/s

  Memory Read Uncached             6661 MB/s

  Memory Write                     8377 MB/s

  Available RAM                    61744 Megabytes

  Memory Latency                   99 Nanoseconds

  Memory Threaded                  25074 MB/s

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

perf 2.0GHz

Code:

 Performance counter stats for 'sleep 1':



              1.83 msec task-clock                       #    0.002 CPUs utilized             

                 1      context-switches                 #  546.999 /sec                      

                 0      cpu-migrations                   #    0.000 /sec                      

                69      page-faults                      #   37.743 K/sec                     

           3615631      cycles                           #    1.978 GHz                       

           1926895      instructions                     #    0.53  insn per cycle            

         branches                                                              

             19690      branch-misses                                                         



       1.003565332 seconds time elapsed



       0.003576000 seconds user

       0.000000000 seconds sys

perf 2.2GHz

Code:

 Performance counter stats for 'sleep 1':



              1.70 msec task-clock                       #    0.002 CPUs utilized             

                 1      context-switches                 #  588.361 /sec                      

                 0      cpu-migrations                   #    0.000 /sec                      

                68      page-faults                      #   40.009 K/sec                     

           3688141      cycles                           #    2.170 GHz                       

           1937926      instructions                     #    0.53  insn per cycle            

         branches                                                              

             17850      branch-misses                                                         



       1.003154450 seconds time elapsed



       0.003193000 seconds user

       0.000000000 seconds sys

glmark2

Code:

=======================================================

    glmark2 2023.01

=======================================================

    OpenGL Information

    GL_VENDOR:      AMD

    GL_RENDERER:    AMD Radeon RX 550 / 550 Series (polaris12, LLVM 15.0.7, DRM 3.54, 6.5.0-21-generic)

    GL_VERSION:     4.6 (Compatibility Profile) Mesa 23.2.1-1ubuntu3.1

    Surface Config: buf=32 r=8 g=8 b=8 a=8 depth=24 stencil=0 samples=0

    Surface Size:   1920x1080 windowed

=======================================================

[build] use-vbo=false: FPS: 2858 FrameTime: 0.350 ms

[build] use-vbo=true: FPS: 3525 FrameTime: 0.284 ms

[texture] texture-filter=nearest: FPS: 3434 FrameTime: 0.291 ms

[texture] texture-filter=linear: FPS: 3445 FrameTime: 0.290 ms

[texture] texture-filter=mipmap: FPS: 3439 FrameTime: 0.291 ms

[shading] shading=gouraud: FPS: 3240 FrameTime: 0.309 ms

[shading] shading=blinn-phong-inf: FPS: 3235 FrameTime: 0.309 ms

[shading] shading=phong: FPS: 3185 FrameTime: 0.314 ms

[shading] shading=cel: FPS: 3131 FrameTime: 0.319 ms

[bump] bump-render=high-poly: FPS: 2981 FrameTime: 0.336 ms

[bump] bump-render=normals: FPS: 3462 FrameTime: 0.289 ms

[bump] bump-render=height: FPS: 3423 FrameTime: 0.292 ms

[effect2d] kernel=0,1,0;1,-4,1;0,1,0;: FPS: 2201 FrameTime: 0.454 ms

[effect2d] kernel=1,1,1,1,1;1,1,1,1,1;1,1,1,1,1;: FPS: 996 FrameTime: 1.005 ms

[pulsar] light=false:quads=5:texture=false: FPS: 3011 FrameTime: 0.332 ms

[desktop] blur-radius=5:effect=blur:passes=1:separable=true:windows=4: FPS: 1203 FrameTime: 0.831 ms

[desktop] effect=shadow:windows=4: FPS: 2183 FrameTime: 0.458 ms

[buffer] columns=200:interleave=false:update-dispersion=0.9:update-fraction=0.5:update-method=map: FPS: 658 FrameTime: 1.520 ms

[buffer] columns=200:interleave=false:update-dispersion=0.9:update-fraction=0.5:update-method=subdata: FPS: 1029 FrameTime: 0.972 ms

[buffer] columns=200:interleave=true:update-dispersion=0.9:update-fraction=0.5:update-method=map: FPS: 1113 FrameTime: 0.899 ms

[ideas] speed=duration: FPS: 2348 FrameTime: 0.426 ms

[jellyfish] : FPS: 2264 FrameTime: 0.442 ms

[terrain] : FPS: 266 FrameTime: 3.770 ms

[shadow] : FPS: 2912 FrameTime: 0.344 ms

[refract] : FPS: 430 FrameTime: 2.330 ms

[conditionals] fragment-steps=0:vertex-steps=0: FPS: 3456 FrameTime: 0.289 ms

[conditionals] fragment-steps=5:vertex-steps=0: FPS: 3441 FrameTime: 0.291 ms

[conditionals] fragment-steps=0:vertex-steps=5: FPS: 3451 FrameTime: 0.290 ms

[function] fragment-complexity=low:fragment-steps=5: FPS: 3435 FrameTime: 0.291 ms

[function] fragment-complexity=medium:fragment-steps=5: FPS: 3410 FrameTime: 0.293 ms

[loop] fragment-loop=false:fragment-steps=5:vertex-steps=5: FPS: 3358 FrameTime: 0.298 ms

[loop] fragment-steps=5:fragment-uniform=false:vertex-steps=5: FPS: 3397 FrameTime: 0.294 ms

[loop] fragment-steps=5:fragment-uniform=true:vertex-steps=5: FPS: 3113 FrameTime: 0.321 ms

=======================================================

                                  glmark2 Score: 2636 

=======================================================

Ovo nije loše, kada gledam opterečenje pri reprodukciji Youtube i temperature su sasvim pristojne.

Citiraj:

Autor Dottore (Post 3732353)

Ovo nije loše, kada gledam opterečenje pri reprodukciji Youtube i temperature su sasvim pristojne.

Cak i ovo LC djubre moze ohladiti 30W TDP-a, iako se pri ozbiljnom dugotrajnom loadu popne do ~55C… Iskreno, veca poanta je bila da ne buci i da ne moram opet do trgovine po novi Grunf mod, tako da ovo radi sasvim OK!

Ej Bubba, dottore mi skrenuo paznju na ovaj tvoj mini projektic... Stvarno, svaka cast... :) Podsjetio si me na mene kada sam kemijao sa overvoltanjem ventilatora i ostale pizd*rije koje sam radio kad sam bijo mlad... sustipletican... itd itd... :D

Citiraj:

Autor calypso (Post 3736528)

Brate moj dobri, pa upravo si ti bio moj prvi idol u tim pizdarijama kada si me iz osnovne skole pokupio i vodao po Flyu, pokazivao cuda i svasta... <3 #noHomo :*

SolidRun MACCHIATObin Single Shot

SolidRun MACCHIATObin Single Shot

Evo jos jedan kasnonocni ARM projektic - SolidRun MACCHIATObin Single Shot sa Marvell 88F8040@2GHz, 16GB DDR4 ECC RAM-om i malo SSD storagea. Moram vidjeti hoce li biti raspolozen za M2 na ovom PCI-e konektoru, pa da malo prosirim lab s jos ARM igracaka...

CPU nije neki spektakl, ali mi je ta ARMADA dosta poznata pa se i danas moze izvuci sasvim respektabilne performanse za malo vata...

De ti meni reci Bubba, cemu sluze te stvarcice koje slazes? Jel imaju neku namjenu ili samo slazes da bi slagao? :)

Citiraj:

Autor calypso (Post 3752119)

De ti meni reci Bubba, cemu sluze te stvarcice koje slazes? Jel imaju neku namjenu ili samo slazes da bi slagao? :)

Nemam vise mladosti u sebi za hardverski larpurlartizam, tako da ovo ima usecase. :)

ARM workstation sluzi kao dev i build masina, s obzirom da ipak ima dosta soka u sebi (primarno memorije, CPU vise manje), tako da sto se tice razvoja, sluzi kao nativni stroj za mainlineing ARM specificnih funkcionalnosti u jedan od top 10 TIOBE jezika, dok za build pricu upravo ide implementacija CI/CD procesa kako bi se ofriskali tradicionalno zastarjeli ARM paketi za popularne distribucije (trenutno ciljamo na deb pakete).

Takodjer, u produkciji je iEi PUZZLE-M801 (ima istu Armadu kao i ove ITX ploce gore) na kojemu je Postgres, NATS i jos par servisa gdje testiram kako se ponasaju u divljini.

Ove dvije plocice ce za sada biti u R&D segmentu, jer bih primarno volio isprobati na njima kako ce se ponasati neki oblik virtualizacije, a temeljem iskustava do sada, u full loadu mogu deliverati zadovoljavajuce performanse kao x86 masine koje su u idleu.

MacchiatoBin Workstation

Geekbench6: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/6980334

Code:

arm-averell

    description: Computer

    product: Armada 8040 MacchiatoBin

    vendor: SolidRun

    version: Rev. 1.3

    serial: Serial Not Set

    width: 64 bits

    capabilities: smbios-3.2.0 dmi-3.2.0 smp cp15_barrier setend swp tagged_addr_disabled

    configuration: boot=normal uuid=97c93925-1273-4f03-9f75-2f2b7ed19480

  *-core

       description: Motherboard

       physical id: 0

     *-firmware

          description: BIOS

          vendor: EDK2

          physical id: 3

          version: EDK2 SR 1.0

          date: Jul 19 2024

          size: 96KiB

          capabilities: pci pnp upgrade bootselect acpi usb uefi

     *-board

          description: Motherboard

          product: Armada 8040 MacchiatoBin

          vendor: SolidRun

          physical id: 1004

          version: Rev. 1.3

          serial: Serial Not Set

          slot: Base of Chassis

        *-cpu

             description: CPU

             product: ARM (0xd08)

             vendor: Marvell

             physical id: 1006

             bus info: cpu@0

             version: Cortex-A72

             slot: Socket type unknown

             size: 2GHz

             capacity: 2200MHz

             capabilities: lm

             configuration: cores=4 enabledcores=4 threads=4

           *-cache:0

                description: L1 cache

                physical id: 1000

                slot: L1 Instruction

                size: 48KiB

                capacity: 48KiB

                capabilities: internal instruction

                configuration: level=1

           *-cache:1

                description: L2 cache

                physical id: 1002

                slot: L2

                size: 512KiB

                capacity: 512KiB

                capabilities: internal write-back unified

                configuration: level=2

           *-cache:2

                description: L3 cache

                physical id: 1003

                slot: L3

                size: 1MiB

                capacity: 1MiB

                capabilities: internal write-back unified

                configuration: level=3

     *-cache

          description: L1 cache

          physical id: 1001

          slot: L1 Data

          size: 32KiB

          capacity: 32KiB

          capabilities: internal data

          configuration: level=1

     *-memory

          description: System Memory

          physical id: 1007

          slot: System board or motherboard

          size: 15GiB

        *-bank

             description: Row of chips DDR4 1200 MHz (0.8 ns)

             physical id: 0

             slot: DIMM SLOT

             size: 15GiB

             width: 32 bits

             clock: 1200MHz (0.8ns)

     *-display

          description: VGA compatible controller

          product: RV730 PRO [Radeon HD 4650]

          vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]

          physical id: 0

          bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0

          logical name: /dev/fb0

          version: 00

          width: 64 bits

          clock: 33MHz

          capabilities: pm pciexpress msi vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom fb

          configuration: depth=32 driver=radeon latency=0 mode=1920x1080 resolution=1920,1080 visual=truecolor xres=1920 yres=1080

          resources: iomemory:80-7f iomemory:80-7f irq:54 memory:800000000-80fffffff memory:810000000-81000ffff ioport:1000(size=256) memory:c0000000-c001ffff

     *-multimedia

          description: Audio device

          product: RV710/730 HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 4000 series]

          vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]

          physical id: 0.1

          bus info: pci@0000:00:00.1

          logical name: card0

          logical name: /dev/snd/controlC0

          logical name: /dev/snd/hwC0D0

          logical name: /dev/snd/pcmC0D3p

          version: 00

          width: 64 bits

          clock: 33MHz

          capabilities: pm pciexpress msi bus_master cap_list

          configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=0

          resources: iomemory:80-7f irq:55 memory:810010000-810013fff

        *-input

             product: HDA ATI HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm=3

             physical id: 0

             logical name: input1

             logical name: /dev/input/event1

     *-pnp00:00

          product: PnP device PNP0c02

          physical id: 1

          capabilities: pnp

          configuration: driver=system

     *-scsi

          physical id: 2

          logical name: scsi2

          capabilities: emulated

        *-disk

             description: ATA Disk

             product: WDC WDS500G2B0A

             vendor: Western Digital

             physical id: 0.0.0

             bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0

             logical name: /dev/sda

             version: 90WD

             serial: 20101S465005

             size: 465GiB (500GB)

             capabilities: removable

             configuration: ansiversion=5 logicalsectorsize=512 sectorsize=512

           *-medium

                physical id: 0

                logical name: /dev/sda

                size: 465GiB (500GB)

                capabilities: gpt-1.00 partitioned partitioned:gpt

                configuration: guid=b02ed44d-0087-4e3d-a8ea-826db3243d77

              *-volume:0 UNCLAIMED

                   description: Windows FAT volume

                   vendor: mkfs.fat

                   physical id: 1

                   version: FAT32

                   serial: 072c-7dea

                   size: 1073MiB

                   capacity: 1074MiB

                   capabilities: boot fat initialized

                   configuration: FATs=2 filesystem=fat

              *-volume:1

                   description: EXT4 volume

                   vendor: Linux

                   physical id: 2

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Citiraj:

AmpereOne A192-32X Benchmarks: 192 Core ARM Server Performance & Power Efficiency:kafa:

Citiraj:

AmpereOne reviewer system is based on a Supermicro ARS-211M-NR R13SPD that is an air-cooled 2U server solution for AmpereOne processors -- capable of handling up to the top-end 400 Watt processors. The Supermicro ARS-211M-NR R13SPD can handle up to four double-width GPUs, 16 DIMM slots in total for up to 2TB of DDR5-5200 memory with one DIMM per channel or up to 4TB of RAM at two DIMMs per channel but reduced then to DDR5-4400 speeds. The AmpereOne server can boot standard AArch64 Linux distributions like Ubuntu 24.04 LTS and Fedora Server 40. For the initial benchmarking I was using Ubuntu 24.04 LTS. This review server shipped with 8 x 64GB DDR5-5200 DIMMs, Samsung NVMe MZQL23T8HCLS-00A07 + MZ1L2960HCJR-00A07 storage, and using the top-end AmpereOne A192-32X processor. The AmpereOne A192-32X boasts 192 AmpereOne cores, a 3.2GHz clock frequency, a rated 276 Watt usage power, and carries a $5,555 USD suggested price.

The AmpereOne A192-32X performed admirably in matching the performance of a dual Intel Xeon 6766E Sierra Forest configuration overall but behind the Xeon 6780E 2P configuration. The AmpereOne A192-32X in a single socket configuration was also behind the single EPYC 9654 Genoa / 9754 Bergamo / 9684X Genoa-X processors. Going from the Ampere Altra Max M128-30 to AmpereOne A192-32X was 1.56x the performance overall. That's with 1.5x the core count in going from Ampere Altra Max 128 cores to 192 cores with the current top-end AmpereOne SKUs. As shown in the few single-threaded and lightly threaded workloads, there wasn't too much IPC uplift going to AmpereOne from Ampere Altra cores. With AmpereOne is also the move to DDR5 memory from DDR4 and other improvements.

When looking at the CPU power consumption over the span of all the benchmarks carried out, the AmpereOne A192-32X on average was consuming 230 Watts with a peak of 401 Watts, up from a 166 Watt average for the Ampere Altra Max M128-30 with a 166 Watt average and 252 Watt peak. The most significant difference with AmpereOne was unfortunately the much higher CPU power consumption at idle and lightly threaded scenarios. The AmpereOne A192-32X never consumed less than 101 Watts even in the brief periods of being idle... Meanwhile the single Intel / AMD server processors could idle in the 10~20'ish Watt range. The Ampere Altra Max M128-30 could sip as little as 21 Watts. But the AmpereOne didn't drop below 100 Watts. The EPYC 9754 Bergamo had a similar power consumption overall to the AmpereOne A192-32X with a 225 Watt average and 397 Watt peak. The EPYC 9754 would consume just 10 Watts at idle.

Overall this was a better than expected first look at AmpereOne. It's great finally seeing AmpereOne hands-on and the performance being competitive. If AmpereOne had ramped up last year well before Intel Sierra Forest it would have looked extremely compelling with its 192 core part and launching to a very different landscape. Now it's appearing with Intel Sierra Forest having been "launched" since earlier this summer, Intel Granite Rapids coming up soon, and AMD EPYC Turin also due out in the coming months. It will be interesting to see if Ampere Computing can achieve robust availability on AmpereOne processors and platforms before Granite Rapids and EPYC Turin. Hopefully firmware updates can also help with AmpereOne reducing its idle CPU power usage.

Izvor: Phoronix

Ima li itko tu na forumu Windows on ARM upogonjen? Čisto me zanimaju korisnička iskustva iz prve ruke. Vidim da je Lenovo zagazio u te vode s poslovnom serijom laptopa, prvo X13s i s nešto novijim T14s Gen6.
Nadam se da će se stvoriti dobra baza korisnika jer u ovom trenu mi situacija sliči na onu s Windows Mobile uređajima, sjajna hardverska podloga s premalim brojem aplikacija koju je Microsoft sa svakom novom verzijom OS-a smanjivao jer nije dozvoljavao nadogradnje starijih uređaja. Ne bi bilo dobro da se stvar ugasi kao Windows RT.

Izgleda da su sami sebi smjestili, kaj po pitanju ionak sfušanih Windows ARM peripetija, kaj po pitanju zakulisnih nadmudrivanja, mada je hardver solidan.

Citiraj:

Qualcomm abruptly cancels Snapdragon X Elite dev kit — refunds customers, ends sales and support for the device immediately

Legal dispute after Nuvia takeover: Arm withdraws Qualcomm's architectural license

Citiraj:

The background to the current development is the takeover of Nuvia by Qualcomm and the further development of the Phoenix CPU core, which was developed on the basis of an architecture license acquired from Nuvia and was originally intended to be used in the server segment, but is used by Qualcomm in an adapted form for a notebook design becomes. Qualcomm believes that by acquiring Nuvia, it has also taken over the architectural license and has the right to adapt the design developed by Nuvia to its own requirements.

Arm, in turn, argues that Nuvia had an architectural license specifically for server designs and a transfer to Qualcomm should not have happened without Arm's prior approval. A new license agreement would probably have been linked to this, as Qualcomm is currently using the further developed Phoenix design in the mass market for notebooks instead of servers and has recently completed and announced the second Oryon generation for a smartphone chip based on the architecture license. Nuvia's former architectural licenses were terminated back in February 2023 after Arm and Qualcomm were unable to reach an agreement.

Izvor: ComputerBase

Citiraj:

Autor The Exiled (Post 3769811)

Izgleda da su sami sebi smjestili, kaj po pitanju ionak sfušanih Windows ARM peripetija, kaj po pitanju zakulisnih nadmudrivanja, mada je hardver solidan.

Ne znam što uopće reći na ovo. Nadam se da iz svega neće ispasti šuplja priča i da će Microsoft nastaviti s razvojem WOA. Bila bi šteta da se na kraju na svim tim računalima sa Snapdragonom vrti samo Linux.
Ne kužim zašto Arm i Nuvia/Qualcomm nisu uspjeli riješiti licencu i za notebook/desktop segment, ali to je njihova stvar.

Inače, ovo lijepo izgleda:
https://windowsonarm.org/

Citiraj:

Autor Sinac (Post 3769800)

Ima li itko tu na forumu Windows on ARM upogonjen?

Ja sam se neki dan igrao sa Surface Proom nekoliko sati.

Microsoft Surface Pro - ARM

S obzirom da znam kakav je Win API kod iza ovoga, ugodno sam iznenadjen da sam ga pokrenuo bez ijednog pitanja i s punom funkcionalnoscu (zaboravio sam okinuti fotku nakon updatea).

Jedini razlog zasto nisam kupio uredjaj je zato sto podrzava samo Windowse. :D Ali generalni look&feel je bio zapravo sjajan, moram priznati. Baterija onako kako bi covjek ocekivao od M serije Macova.

E to me zanimalo, pogotovo ovo oko baterije, hvala.

Nadam se da će se Qualcomm izvući iz ove zavrzlame s licencama i da će WOA zaživjeti kako spada. Nekako mi se čini da bi takvi SoC laptopi mogli biti pristojna računala sa zavidnim performansama.