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The Exiled 25.11.2025. 17:03

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RIP Windows: Linux GPU Gaming Benchmarks on Bazzite:sweating:
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We're finally benchmarking GPU performance in Linux, first using the Bazzite OS following thousands of community requests specifically for this operating system. A lot of this is exploratory and research for establishing methodology, so we're still learning how to control the platforms and software for this benchmarking. In the very least, this allows us to start generating some exit velocity from Windows for some people. Linux still isn't for everyone. Some users, like our own production machines, are bound to Windows by compatibility requirements with certain software. But gaming has dramatically improved on Linux over the years and is developing fast (despite still having issues), and so it may slowly start to become more viable for gaming users in particular.
- "Thanks Steve":):D

tomek@vz 25.11.2025. 19:26

Kak bi lepo bilo da su anti-cheat igre jos podrzane...

BlackDwarf 25.11.2025. 20:01

To najvise ovisi o developerima igre.

Dule 25.11.2025. 20:46

A kolika je vjerojatnost da će to biti moguće bez root permissiona? :) Ne hvala.

tomek@vz 25.11.2025. 21:31

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Autor Dule (Post 3832831)
A kolika je vjerojatnost da će to biti moguće bez root permissiona? :) Ne hvala.


Zato nebi bilo lose da imamo mogucnost single playera bez anti cheata. Al jebaj ga.

strikoo 26.11.2025. 08:41

velika prilika je sada ovisno o (ne)uspjehu steam (os) machine-a.
Držimo fige

Mario92 26.11.2025. 09:05

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Autor The Exiled (Post 3832793)
RIP Windows: Linux GPU Gaming Benchmarks on Bazzite

Od 39:30 pa nadalje - sve to ok, E for effort, ali year of linux za gaming eventualno za 5+ godina

Šteta

spiderhr 26.11.2025. 09:10

Baš se ovih dana spremam LMDE instalirati na jedan stariji lap poznaniku. Sam je rekao da može i Linux i da koliko njemu treba za koji dokument i mail bude dobar.

ODmah budem stavio i program za pristup na daljinu :kafa:

Samo ću probati da bude tema jednostavna i možda sličnija W7 koji je do sada bio na lapu... Dotični se skršili i pomaže jedino sve ispočetka.

Bono 26.11.2025. 10:09

Meni se nitko nije bunio kad sam ih sa win7 prebacio na linux, od Ubuntu do Minta, cak im je i drago da nije sve isto.
Na Ubuntu im je jedino smetalo jer sat vise nije dolje desno u tray baru, ostatak je ok.

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strikoo 26.11.2025. 10:57

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Autor spiderhr (Post 3832883)
Baš se ovih dana spremam LMDE instalirati na jedan stariji lap poznaniku. Sam je rekao da može i Linux i da koliko njemu treba za koji dokument i mail bude dobar.

ODmah budem stavio i program za pristup na daljinu :kafa:

Samo ću probati da bude tema jednostavna i možda sličnija W7 koji je do sada bio na lapu... Dotični se skršili i pomaže jedino sve ispočetka.

i obavezno
https://www.onlyoffice.com/desktop

strikoo 26.11.2025. 10:58

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Autor Mario92 (Post 3832882)
Od 39:30 pa nadalje - sve to ok, E for effort, ali year of linux za gaming eventualno za 5+ godina

Šteta

lijepo kaže na početku, nije to za svakoga ;)

xlr 26.11.2025. 11:02

Say whaaat :')

https://www.tomshardware.com/softwar...-in-five-weeks

Jel taj Zorin cemu? Kratko sam je testirao i ispalo he da je to jedini OS na kojem nisam imao problem sa zvukom u Steamu i na W3 USB zvucnoj kartici (prije toga nisam imao srece na PopOS-u i Mintu). OS kao takav izgleda simpaticno, ne lajkam paywall iza kojeg se nalaze neki featurei, ALI nemam nista protiv takvog podrzavanja developmenta... Samo eto ja nikad nisam cuo za tu distru u zadnjih 5 godina, do prije mjesec dana. Jel to itko koristi?

Neo-ST 26.11.2025. 12:06

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Autor xlr (Post 3832908)
Say whaaat :')

https://www.tomshardware.com/softwar...-in-five-weeks

Jel taj Zorin cemu? Kratko sam je testirao i ispalo he da je to jedini OS na kojem nisam imao problem sa zvukom u Steamu i na W3 USB zvucnoj kartici (prije toga nisam imao srece na PopOS-u i Mintu). OS kao takav izgleda simpaticno, ne lajkam paywall iza kojeg se nalaze neki featurei, ALI nemam nista protiv takvog podrzavanja developmenta... Samo eto ja nikad nisam cuo za tu distru u zadnjih 5 godina, do prije mjesec dana. Jel to itko koristi?

Koliko vidim, taj Zorin je samo Ubuntu sa drugačijim skinom.
Pro verzija ti naplaćuje bundlanje ionako besplatnih appova...

coconut 26.11.2025. 12:12

Nekidan sam na jednu stariju konfu (i5 7th, 8Gb DDR3) stavio Mint Cinnamon na onaj Kingston M.2 od 2€ i 128Gb. Komp leti.
Ono što je ugodno iznenadilo je činjenica da cijeli OS sa svim pomoćnim programima (multimedija, office, surf, mail,...) zauzima pišljivih 537Mb na disku.
U jednom sam momentu razmišljao i o tome da na laptopu napravim dual boot W11 i Mint.
E da, ima jedna stvar koja me iritira. Svaki put se moram ulogirati. Iako je u postavkama isključeno, on me ipak traži login.

Nikky 26.11.2025. 12:35

Čittaj / traži pa uredi autologon ovisno o de.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Lig...ling_autologin

tomek@vz 26.11.2025. 14:10

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Autor xlr (Post 3832908)
Say whaaat :')

https://www.tomshardware.com/softwar...-in-five-weeks

Jel taj Zorin cemu? Kratko sam je testirao i ispalo he da je to jedini OS na kojem nisam imao problem sa zvukom u Steamu i na W3 USB zvucnoj kartici (prije toga nisam imao srece na PopOS-u i Mintu). OS kao takav izgleda simpaticno, ne lajkam paywall iza kojeg se nalaze neki featurei, ALI nemam nista protiv takvog podrzavanja developmenta... Samo eto ja nikad nisam cuo za tu distru u zadnjih 5 godina, do prije mjesec dana. Jel to itko koristi?


Mint Debian / Debian. Mislim da je Zorin izhypean.


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Autor coconut (Post 3832922)
Nekidan sam na jednu stariju konfu (i5 7th, 8Gb DDR3) stavio Mint Cinnamon na onaj Kingston M.2 od 2€ i 128Gb. Komp leti.
Ono što je ugodno iznenadilo je činjenica da cijeli OS sa svim pomoćnim programima (multimedija, office, surf, mail,...) zauzima pišljivih 537Mb na disku.
U jednom sam momentu razmišljao i o tome da na laptopu napravim dual boot W11 i Mint.
E da, ima jedna stvar koja me iritira. Svaki put se moram ulogirati. Iako je u postavkama isključeno, on me ipak traži login.


Imas u Settings > User ak se ne varam autolin opciju ili slozis u configu ovisno koji Login manager se koristi.


P.S.- Lightdm
Code:

/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf

Ivo_Strojnica 26.11.2025. 14:26

meni je zorin topčić.
odlično izgleda i odlično radi. Zaista nemam zamjerke.

Disco 26.11.2025. 18:41

Probajte si CachyOS, meni je za sada baš simpa.
Ne igram se na njemu, nego samo malo drljam i probavam. ;)

strikoo 26.11.2025. 19:11

nije nesto novo, ali djeluje zgodno. nez je li se vec spominjalo
https://github.com/AdnanHodzic/auto-...readme-ov-file

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Automatic CPU speed & power optimizer for Linux. Actively monitors laptop battery state, CPU usage, CPU temperature, and system load, ultimately allowing you to improve battery life without making any compromises.

instalirao pa budem vidio iskustvo kroz par dana.

xlr 26.11.2025. 21:06

@striko:
Odlican tool, meni je spasio zivce i usi na onom mini pc dell-u koji mi vrti proxmox jer isti ima glupu fan krivulju pa sam mu malo podrezao taktove :)

http://forum.pcekspert.com/showthread.php?p=3809371

kasko 26.11.2025. 22:07

Jel nije cijela Slovenija što se tiče javnih službi, službeno na ZorinOS?

Mislim da u skorije vrijeme i ja budem probao zavrtiti taj OS

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xlr 26.11.2025. 23:43

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Autor xlr (Post 3832908)
Jel taj Zorin cemu? Kratko sam je testirao i ispalo he da je to jedini OS na kojem nisam imao problem sa zvukom u Steamu i na W3 USB zvucnoj kartici (prije toga nisam imao srece na PopOS-u i Mintu).

Ok, u virtualci je radio ok, ali na laptopu ne radi zvuk - imam uvijek onaj isti problem o kojem sam vec pisao. To mi je sad i sluzbeno postao benchmark i prva stvar kad probam neku distru - instaliram Steam, skinem igru, ustekam creative W3 stick u komp (usb zvucna) i pustim zvuk na nju. Svugdje na razini OS-a zvuk normalno radi, ali u Steam igrama eto nikako. Barem ne out of the box.

OS kao takav radi cist fajn.

Ako itko ima kakvu ideju za ovaj moj problem, slusam. Imam filing da je neka glupost.

tomek@vz 27.11.2025. 06:06

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Autor xlr (Post 3833023)
Ok, u virtualci je radio ok, ali na laptopu ne radi zvuk - imam uvijek onaj isti problem o kojem sam vec pisao. To mi je sad i sluzbeno postao benchmark i prva stvar kad probam neku distru - instaliram Steam, skinem igru, ustekam creative W3 stick u komp (usb zvucna) i pustim zvuk na nju. Svugdje na razini OS-a zvuk normalno radi, ali u Steam igrama eto nikako. Barem ne out of the box.

OS kao takav radi cist fajn.

Ako itko ima kakvu ideju za ovaj moj problem, slusam. Imam filing da je neka glupost.


Najprije vidi jel kernel modul loadan i dali imas set potrebnog firmwera instaliran. Ako sam ne doguras dalje lupi tu output ovih komandi:


Code:

dmesg
lsusb
lsmod


domy_os 27.11.2025. 08:24

Možda Steam ima neki extra config za audio output pa šalje na krivi uređaj?

tomek@vz 27.11.2025. 10:33

Fyi


https://reverser.dev/linux-kernel-explorer

Dule 27.11.2025. 11:44

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Autor xlr (Post 3833023)
Ok, u virtualci je radio ok, ali na laptopu ne radi zvuk - imam uvijek onaj isti problem o kojem sam vec pisao. To mi je sad i sluzbeno postao benchmark i prva stvar kad probam neku distru - instaliram Steam, skinem igru, ustekam creative W3 stick u komp (usb zvucna) i pustim zvuk na nju. Svugdje na razini OS-a zvuk normalno radi, ali u Steam igrama eto nikako. Barem ne out of the box.

OS kao takav radi cist fajn.

Ako itko ima kakvu ideju za ovaj moj problem, slusam. Imam filing da je neka glupost.

Nedostaje ti neki lib32 sound library garant, npr. nešto kao lib32 OpenAL ili slično pa potraži. Ako pokreneš iz konzole moguće da ćeš vidjeti u logu koji sound library nedostaje.

xlr 27.11.2025. 13:04

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Autor tomek@vz (Post 3833035)
Najprije vidi jel kernel modul loadan i dali imas set potrebnog firmwera instaliran. Ako sam ne doguras dalje lupi tu output ovih komandi:


Code:

dmesg
lsusb
lsmod


Ej ne znam iskreno ni što bi gledao, dane sam utukao u ovo. Probao sam plugnuti W3 dongle u usb-c i usb-a port, ne vidim razlike pa prilažem samo usb-a outpute. Sustav je friški install.

sudo apt install steam-installer
Instalirao jednu igru (Inside)

Steam setup je defaultni, nisam ništa dirao (Proton experimental je aktivan) makar igrao sam se prije i sa starijim verzijama i sa Proton GE.
Audio output u Steamu je podešen na default i to bi trebalo raditi jer output mijenjam na razini OS-a (u trayu prebacim na W3 i vratim na internu zvučnu). Probao sam ga i ručno prebacivati na W3 dongle unutar Steam postavki.

Dok igra radi, minimiziram je, prebacim zvuk na internu zvučnu i ima zvuka. Prebacim na W3, nema zvuka.

Opet napominjem, W3 uredno radi u browseru i na razini OS-a.

W3 mi se može spojiti na slušalice putem SBC-a i AptX-a. Ali napominjem, ovo bi trebala biti usb zvučna kartica, ne BT dongle, tj OS niti ne mora znati da ovo ima BT mogućnosti. Kakogod, probao sam mijenjati tip konekcije na dongleu i nema efekta.

dmesg
Code:

[ 3813.789795] usb 1-1: new full-speed USB device number 4 using xhci_hcd
[ 3813.950962] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=041e, idProduct=3270, bcdDevice= 1.00
[ 3813.950979] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[ 3813.950986] usb 1-1: Product: Creative BT-W3
[ 3813.950993] usb 1-1: Manufacturer: Creative Technology Ltd
[ 3813.950998] usb 1-1: SerialNumber: 009D099F003C0002
[ 3813.998646] input: Creative Technology Ltd Creative BT-W3 Consumer Control as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.3/0003:041E:3270.0003/input/input20
[ 3814.050447] input: Creative Technology Ltd Creative BT-W3 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.3/0003:041E:3270.0003/input/input21
[ 3814.051230] hid-generic 0003:041E:3270.0003: input,hiddev0,hidraw0: USB HID v1.11 Device [Creative Technology Ltd Creative BT-W3] on usb-0000:00:14.0-1/input3
[ 3814.056321] hid-generic 0003:041E:3270.0004: hiddev1,hidraw1: USB HID v1.11 Device [Creative Technology Ltd Creative BT-W3] on usb-0000:00:14.0-1/input4

lsusb
Code:

eddie@eddie-ThinkPad-X280:~$ lsusb
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 058f:9540 Alcor Micro Corp. AU9540 Smartcard Reader
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 8087:0032 Intel Corp. AX210 Bluetooth
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 041e:3270 Creative Technology, Ltd Creative BT-W3
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0bda:0316 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. Card Reader
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub

eddie@eddie-ThinkPad-X280:~$ lsusb -t
/:  Bus 001.Port 001: Dev 001, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/12p, 480M
    |__ Port 001: Dev 004, If 0, Class=Audio, Driver=snd-usb-audio, 12M
    |__ Port 001: Dev 004, If 1, Class=Audio, Driver=snd-usb-audio, 12M
    |__ Port 001: Dev 004, If 2, Class=Audio, Driver=snd-usb-audio, 12M
    |__ Port 001: Dev 004, If 3, Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=usbhid, 12M
    |__ Port 001: Dev 004, If 4, Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=usbhid, 12M
    |__ Port 003: Dev 002, If 0, Class=Chip/SmartCard, Driver=[none], 12M
    |__ Port 007: Dev 003, If 0, Class=Wireless, Driver=btusb, 12M
    |__ Port 007: Dev 003, If 1, Class=Wireless, Driver=btusb, 12M
/:  Bus 002.Port 001: Dev 001, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/6p, 5000M
    |__ Port 003: Dev 002, If 0, Class=Mass Storage, Driver=usb-storage, 5000M
/:  Bus 003.Port 001: Dev 001, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/2p, 480M
/:  Bus 004.Port 001: Dev 001, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/2p, 10000M


lsmod
Code:

Module                  Size  Used by
hid_generic            12288  0
snd_usb_audio        557056  1
usbhid                77824  0
hid                  262144  2 usbhid,hid_generic
snd_usbmidi_lib        57344  1 snd_usb_audio
snd_ump                45056  1 snd_usb_audio
rfcomm                102400  4
snd_seq_dummy          12288  0
snd_hrtimer            12288  1
snd_seq_midi          24576  0
snd_seq_midi_event    16384  1 snd_seq_midi
snd_rawmidi            57344  3 snd_seq_midi,snd_usbmidi_lib,snd_ump
snd_seq              122880  9 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq_dummy
snd_seq_device        16384  4 snd_seq,snd_seq_midi,snd_ump,snd_rawmidi
ccm                    20480  6
cmac                  12288  4
algif_hash            16384  1
algif_skcipher        16384  1
af_alg                32768  6 algif_hash,algif_skcipher
qrtr                  53248  2
snd_ctl_led            24576  0
snd_hda_codec_realtek  212992  1
snd_hda_codec_generic  122880  1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hda_scodec_component    20480  1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
bnep                  32768  2
rmi_smbus              12288  0
rmi_core              118784  1 rmi_smbus
videobuf2_vmalloc      20480  1 rmi_core
videobuf2_memops      16384  1 videobuf2_vmalloc
videobuf2_v4l2        36864  1 rmi_core
videobuf2_common      86016  4 videobuf2_vmalloc,rmi_core,videobuf2_v4l2,videobuf2_memops
videodev              360448  2 rmi_core,videobuf2_v4l2
mc                    81920  4 videodev,snd_usb_audio,videobuf2_v4l2,videobuf2_common
snd_sof_pci_intel_skl    24576  0
snd_sof_intel_hda_generic    36864  1 snd_sof_pci_intel_skl
soundwire_intel        77824  1 snd_sof_intel_hda_generic
soundwire_cadence      45056  1 soundwire_intel
snd_sof_intel_hda_common  188416  2 snd_sof_intel_hda_generic,snd_sof_pci_intel_skl
snd_soc_hdac_hda      24576  1 snd_sof_intel_hda_common
snd_sof_intel_hda_mlink    45056  3 soundwire_intel,snd_sof_intel_hda_common,snd_sof_intel_hda_generic
snd_sof_intel_hda      24576  2 snd_sof_intel_hda_common,snd_sof_intel_hda_generic
snd_hda_codec_hdmi    98304  1
snd_sof_pci            24576  2 snd_sof_intel_hda_generic,snd_sof_pci_intel_skl
snd_sof_xtensa_dsp    12288  1 snd_sof_intel_hda_generic
intel_uncore_frequency    12288  0
intel_uncore_frequency_common    16384  1 intel_uncore_frequency
snd_sof              393216  5 snd_sof_pci,snd_sof_intel_hda_common,snd_sof_intel_hda_generic,snd_sof_intel_hda,snd_sof_pci_intel_skl
snd_sof_utils          16384  1 snd_sof
snd_soc_acpi_intel_match  135168  2 snd_sof_intel_hda_generic,snd_sof_pci_intel_skl
snd_soc_acpi_intel_sdca_quirks    12288  1 snd_soc_acpi_intel_match
soundwire_generic_allocation    24576  1 soundwire_intel
snd_soc_acpi          16384  2 snd_soc_acpi_intel_match,snd_sof_intel_hda_generic
soundwire_bus        126976  3 soundwire_intel,soundwire_generic_allocation,soundwire_cadence
intel_tcc_cooling      12288  0
snd_soc_sdca          12288  2 snd_soc_acpi_intel_sdca_quirks,soundwire_bus
x86_pkg_temp_thermal    20480  0
intel_powerclamp      24576  0
coretemp              24576  0
snd_soc_avs          200704  0
iwlmvm                909312  0
snd_soc_hda_codec      24576  1 snd_soc_avs
snd_hda_ext_core      32768  6 snd_soc_avs,snd_soc_hda_codec,snd_sof_intel_hda_common,snd_soc_hdac_hda,snd_sof_intel_hda_mlink,snd_sof_intel_hda
kvm_intel            487424  0
snd_soc_core          425984  6 snd_soc_avs,snd_soc_hda_codec,soundwire_intel,snd_sof,snd_sof_intel_hda_common,snd_soc_hdac_hda
mei_hdcp              28672  0
mei_pxp                16384  0
kvm                  1425408  1 kvm_intel
mac80211            1814528  1 iwlmvm
snd_compress          36864  2 snd_soc_avs,snd_soc_core
irqbypass              12288  1 kvm
binfmt_misc            24576  1
intel_rapl_msr        20480  0
ac97_bus              12288  1 snd_soc_core
libarc4                12288  1 mac80211
polyval_clmulni        12288  0
snd_pcm_dmaengine      16384  1 snd_soc_core
polyval_generic        12288  1 polyval_clmulni
i915                4702208  61
ghash_clmulni_intel    16384  0
sha256_ssse3          32768  0
btusb                  73728  0
sha1_ssse3            32768  0
btrtl                  32768  1 btusb
aesni_intel          122880  9
crypto_simd            16384  1 aesni_intel
iwlwifi              659456  1 iwlmvm
snd_hda_intel          61440  1
processor_thermal_device_pci_legacy    12288  0
snd_intel_dspcfg      45056  5 snd_soc_avs,snd_hda_intel,snd_sof,snd_sof_intel_hda_common,snd_sof_intel_hda_generic
cryptd                24576  3 crypto_simd,ghash_clmulni_intel
snd_intel_sdw_acpi    16384  2 snd_intel_dspcfg,snd_sof_intel_hda_generic
btintel                69632  1 btusb
processor_thermal_device    20480  1 processor_thermal_device_pci_legacy
rapl                  20480  0
think_lmi              45056  0
btbcm                  24576  1 btusb
snd_hda_codec        204800  8 snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_soc_avs,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_soc_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_soc_hdac_hda,snd_sof_intel_hda
drm_buddy              24576  1 i915
processor_thermal_wt_hint    16384  1 processor_thermal_device
btmtk                  36864  1 btusb
intel_cstate          20480  0
nls_iso8859_1          12288  1
intel_wmi_thunderbolt    16384  0
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Autor Dule (Post 3833071)
Nedostaje ti neki lib32 sound library garant, npr. nešto kao lib32 OpenAL ili slično pa potraži. Ako pokreneš iz konzole moguće da ćeš vidjeti u logu koji sound library nedostaje.

Ne primjećujem nikakve errore u logu, a to si mi jednom prilikom bio savjetovao. Mislim da ni tad nisam ništa našao, ali nisam se ni javljao više na forum. Ovdje je jedan primjer. W3 je prije pokretanja bio bio spojen u komp, zvuk prebačen na W3 u trayu i onda sam samo pokrenuo Steam iz terminala. Snimljeno je paljenje Steama, pokretanje igre i gašenje igre:

Code:

eddie@eddie-ThinkPad-X280:~$ steam
steam.sh[18022]: Running Steam on zorin 18 64-bit
steam.sh[18022]: STEAM_RUNTIME is enabled automatically
setup.sh[18060]: Steam runtime environment up-to-date!
steam.sh[18022]: Steam client's requirements are satisfied
CProcessEnvironmentManager is ready, 6 preallocated environment variables.
[2025-11-27 11:11:47] Startup - updater built Nov 22 2025 07:00:25
[2025-11-27 11:11:47] Startup - Steam Client launched with: '/home/eddie/.steam/debian-installation/ubuntu12_32/steam' '-srt-logger-opened' '-nominidumps' '-nobreakpad'
11/27 11:11:47 minidumps folder is set to /tmp/dumps
11/27 11:11:47 Init: Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(1763795278)/tid(18130)
CProcessEnvironmentManager is ready, 6 preallocated environment variables.
[2025-11-27 11:11:47] Process started with command-line: '/home/eddie/.steam/debian-installation/ubuntu12_32/steam' '-child-update-ui' '-child-update-ui-socket' '8' '-srt-logger-opened' '-nominidumps' '-nobreakpad'
11/27 11:11:47 minidumps folder is set to /tmp/dumps
[2025-11-27 11:11:47] Using update UI: console
11/27 11:11:47 Init: Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(0)/tid(18132)
[2025-11-27 11:11:47] Create window
[2025-11-27 11:11:47] Loading cached metrics from disk (/home/eddie/.steam/debian-installation/package/steam_client_metrics.bin)
[2025-11-27 11:11:47] Using the following download hosts for Public, Realm steamglobal
[2025-11-27 11:11:47] 1. https://client-update.fastly.steamstatic.com, /, Realm 'steamglobal', weight was 900, source = 'update_hosts_cached.vdf'
[2025-11-27 11:11:47] 2. https://client-update.akamai.steamstatic.com, /, Realm 'steamglobal', weight was 400, source = 'update_hosts_cached.vdf'
[2025-11-27 11:11:47] 3. https://client-update.steamstatic.com, /, Realm 'steamglobal', weight was 1, source = 'baked in'
[2025-11-27 11:11:47] Verifying installation...
[2025-11-27 11:11:47] Verifying file sizes only
[2025-11-27 11:11:47] Set percent complete: 0
[2025-11-27 11:11:47] Set percent complete: -1
[2025-11-27 11:11:47] Set status message: Verifying installation...
[----] Verifying installation...
[2025-11-27 11:11:47] Verification complete
UpdateUI: skip show logo
[2025-11-27 11:11:47] Destroy window

Steam logging initialized: directory: /home/eddie/.steam/debian-installation/logs

[2025-11-27 11:11:47] ProcessNextMessage: socket disconnected
[2025-11-27 11:11:47] No more messages are expected - exiting
XRRGetOutputInfo Workaround: initialized with override: 0 real: 0xe94aa860
XRRGetCrtcInfo Workaround: initialized with override: 0 real: 0xe94a8fc0
11/27 11:11:49 minidumps folder is set to /tmp/dumps
11/27 11:11:49 Init: Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steamsysinfo)/version(1763795278)/tid(18146)
Running query: 1 - GpuTopology
Response: gpu_topology {
  gpus {
    id: 1
    name: "Intel(R) UHD Graphics 620 (KBL GT2)"
    vram_size_bytes: 8321617920
    driver_id: k_EGpuDriverId_MesaIntel
    driver_version_major: 25
    driver_version_minor: 0
    driver_version_patch: 7
    luid: 0
  }
  gpus {
    id: 2
    name: "llvmpipe (LLVM 20.1.2, 256 bits)"
    vram_size_bytes: 3221225472
    driver_id: k_EGpuDriverId_MesaLLVMPipe
    driver_version_major: 0
    driver_version_minor: 0
    driver_version_patch: 1
    luid: 0
  }
  default_gpu_id: 1
}

Exit code: 0
Saving response to: /tmp/steamJbnLlI - 115 bytes
steamwebhelper.sh[18157]: Starting steamwebhelper under bootstrap steamrt steam runtime via: /home/eddie/.steam/debian-installation/steamrt64/steam-runtime-steamrt/_v2-entry-point
steamwebhelper.sh[18157]: Starting steamwebhelper with steamrt steam runtime at /home/eddie/.steam/debian-installation/steamrt64/steam-runtime-steamrt/_v2-entry-point
Steam Runtime Launch Service: starting steam-runtime-launcher-service
Steam Runtime Launch Service: steam-runtime-launcher-service is running pid 18248
bus_name=com.steampowered.PressureVessel.LaunchAlongsideSteam
exec ./steamwebhelper -nocrashdialog -lang=en_US -cachedir=/home/eddie/.steam/debian-installation/config/htmlcache -steampid=18130 -buildid=1763795278 -steamid=0 -logdir=/home/eddie/.steam/debian-installation/logs -uimode=7 -startcount=0 -steamuniverse=Public -realm=Global -clientui=/home/eddie/.steam/debian-installation/clientui -steampath=/home/eddie/.steam/debian-installation/ubuntu12_32/steam -launcher=0 --valve-enable-site-isolation --enable-smooth-scrolling --password-store=basic --log-file=/home/eddie/.steam/debian-installation/logs/cef_log.txt --disable-quick-menu --disable-component-update --gaia-url=http://disabled.invalid --enable-features=PlatformHEVCDecoderSupport --disable-features=WinRetrieveSuggestionsOnlyOnDemand,SpareRendererForSitePerProcess,DcheckIsFatal,BlockPromptsIfIgnoredOften,ValveFFmpegAllowLowDelayHEVC
Desktop state changed: desktop: { pos:    0,  0 size: 1920,1080 } primary: { pos:    0,  0 size: 1920,1080 }
Caching cursor image for default, size 24x24, serial 169, cache size = 0
reaping pid: 18131 -- sh
[2025-11-27 11:13:50] Background update loop checking for update. . .
[2025-11-27 11:13:50] Checking for available updates...
[2025-11-27 11:13:50] Downloading manifest: https://client-update.fastly.steamstatic.com/steam_client_ubuntu12
[2025-11-27 11:13:50] Manifest download: send request
[2025-11-27 11:13:50] Manifest download: waiting for download to finish
[2025-11-27 11:13:51] Manifest download: finished
[2025-11-27 11:13:51] Download skipped: /steam_client_ubuntu12 version 1763795278, installed version 1763795278, existing pending version 0
[2025-11-27 11:13:51] Nothing to do
fsync: up and running.
chdir "/home/eddie/.steam/debian-installation/steamapps/common/INSIDE"
ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/eddie/.steam/debian-installation/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
Game Recording - would start recording game 304430, but recording for this game is disabled
Adding process 18989 for gameID 304430
ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/eddie/.steam/debian-installation/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/eddie/.steam/debian-installation/ubuntu12_64/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/eddie/.steam/debian-installation/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/eddie/.steam/debian-installation/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
Adding process 18990 for gameID 304430
Adding process 18991 for gameID 304430
Adding process 18992 for gameID 304430
Adding process 19091 for gameID 304430
fsync: up and running.
Adding process 19092 for gameID 304430
Adding process 19093 for gameID 304430
Adding process 19094 for gameID 304430
Adding process 19097 for gameID 304430
Adding process 19099 for gameID 304430
Adding process 19102 for gameID 304430
Adding process 19112 for gameID 304430
Adding process 19117 for gameID 304430
Adding process 19125 for gameID 304430
Adding process 19147 for gameID 304430
Adding process 19166 for gameID 304430
Fossilize INFO: Overriding serialization path: "/home/eddie/.steam/debian-installation/steamapps/shadercache/304430/fozpipelinesv6/steamapprun_pipeline_cache".
11/27 11:20:43 minidumps folder is set to /tmp/dumps
11/27 11:20:43 Init: Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(gameoverlayui)/version(20251122070029)/tid(19211)
11/27 11:20:43 Init: Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(gameoverlayui)/version(1.0)/tid(19211)
pid 19095 != 19094, skipping destruction (fork without exec?)
Game Recording - game stopped [gameid=304430]
Removing process 19166 for gameID 304430
Removing process 19147 for gameID 304430
Removing process 19125 for gameID 304430
Removing process 19117 for gameID 304430
Removing process 19112 for gameID 304430
Removing process 19102 for gameID 304430
Removing process 19099 for gameID 304430
Removing process 19097 for gameID 304430
Removing process 19094 for gameID 304430
Removing process 19093 for gameID 304430
Removing process 19092 for gameID 304430
Removing process 19091 for gameID 304430
Removing process 18992 for gameID 304430
Removing process 18991 for gameID 304430
Removing process 18990 for gameID 304430
Removing process 18989 for gameID 304430
reaping pid: 19211 -- gameoverlayui


tomek@vz 27.11.2025. 13:17

Hm...ako svugdje osim u Steamu radi onda nebi smio biti problem. Provjeri jos dali ti je steam-devices paket instaliran, to hoce ponekad zezat.


Citiraj:

Autor Dule (Post 3833071)
Nedostaje ti neki lib32 sound library garant, npr. nešto kao lib32 OpenAL ili slično pa potraži. Ako pokreneš iz konzole moguće da ćeš vidjeti u logu koji sound library nedostaje.


Mozda ovo cak nije daleko od rijesenja....apt inace dobro hendla zavisnosti tak da nebi smio biti problem ali nebi se cudio da mu neko stanje za pipewire/pulseaudio za tu zvucnu fali a da Steam koristi. Ne vjerujem da je problem do Steama nego do podrske za tu zvucnu i pipewire/alsa handlanje s istom:


https://www.reddit.com/r/pop_os/comm...n_steam_games/


Nisi jedini sa identicnim problemom.

xlr 27.11.2025. 13:36

steam-devices je instaliran.

Nisam to još probao pa evo barem mogu potvrditi da youtube audio playback uredno radi kada pokrenem igru - što autoru ovog reddit posta očito ne radi, kaže da izgubi sav zvuk, i system wide i iz Steama jednom kad pokrene igru.

Ugl ovo je bilo najbliže što sam uspio, u jednom trenu sam i dobio zvuk, ali nisam mogao reproducirati iste korake na friškoj instalaciji i reći "to je rješenje!". Sad me ubij, ne znam koji su to bili koraci, ali probat ću opet nešto iskopati u tom pulseaudio/pipewire smjeru:
https://forum.pcekspert.com/showpost...postcount=4583

Ako netko bude imao kakvu ideju, slušam! Hvala ekipa!



EDIT:
USB DAC (Topping E30) najnormalnije radi na trenutnom setupu, argh!

EDIT2:
Zvuk u igrama magično radi ako napravim sljedeće:
Upalim browser, pustim yt, krene muzika
Upalim igru, također krene zvuk iz igre
Alt-tabam se u browser i pauziram yt

I to sad tako radi... Ako bilo što napravim, probam prebaciti audio output pa se vratiti na W3 - pukne. Ako izađem iz igre i vratim se u nju bez ovih koraka ranije - nema zvuka.

Probao sam fleshati i v1.0 i v1.1 firmware na W3, sa HFP=ON i OFF, nema učinka:
https://support.creative.com/Product...ctDetails.aspx

tomek@vz 27.11.2025. 16:08

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Autor xlr (Post 3833099)
steam-devices je instaliran.

Nisam to još probao pa evo barem mogu potvrditi da youtube audio playback uredno radi kada pokrenem igru - što autoru ovog reddit posta očito ne radi, kaže da izgubi sav zvuk, i system wide i iz Steama jednom kad pokrene igru.

Ugl ovo je bilo najbliže što sam uspio, u jednom trenu sam i dobio zvuk, ali nisam mogao reproducirati iste korake na friškoj instalaciji i reći "to je rješenje!". Sad me ubij, ne znam koji su to bili koraci, ali probat ću opet nešto iskopati u tom pulseaudio/pipewire smjeru:
https://forum.pcekspert.com/showpost...postcount=4583

Ako netko bude imao kakvu ideju, slušam! Hvala ekipa!

EDIT:
USB DAC (Topping E30) najnormalnije radi na trenutnom setupu, argh!

EDIT2:
Zvuk u igrama magično radi ako napravim sljedeće:
Upalim browser, pustim yt, krene muzika
Upalim igru, također krene zvuk iz igre
Alt-tabam se u browser i pauziram yt

I to sad tako radi... Ako bilo što napravim, probam prebaciti audio output pa se vratiti na W3 - pukne. Ako izađem iz igre i vratim se u nju bez ovih koraka ranije - nema zvuka.

Probao sam fleshati i v1.0 i v1.1 firmware na W3, sa HFP=ON i OFF, nema učinka:
https://support.creative.com/Product...ctDetails.aspx


Onda je do implementacije drivera sa jedne strane i nacinu na koji alsa/pipewire hendla prioritete u audiu. Nazalost jedna od onih situacija gdje si naletio na bug koji samo oni sa specificnim uredajem mogu rijesiti. Nazalost....


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