Grid.org PCE Team ili ...

[SniperWolf]

Je funkcionira to još uvijek tj. je hoćeposlat/primit pakete itd.?

[Black Dragon]

meni hoće na na 5 od 5 klijenata bez greške ...

[SniperWolf]

A može neki link gdje da to skinem?

[Black Dragon]

posjeti pa pogledaj moj signiture šala ...

[SniperWolf]

Moram si nabavit naočale

[Dragon Killer]

Originally posted by Black Dragon
meni hoće na na 5 od 5 klijenata bez greške ...

A meni neče ni na jedan od 3 devicesa

[SniperWolf]

Gdje da se regam? Na njihovoj stranici se nikako ne snalazim...

[Dragon Killer]

Originally posted by SniperWolf
Gdje da se regam? Na njihovoj stranici se nikako ne snalazim...

Skineš program i kada prođeš instalaciju pitat če te da se regaš

[SniperWolf]

The username and password that u have provided does not match the one in our records....tako piše i kada označim onu gornju kvačicu i kada ju maknem...

[FERRYS]

nego pomalo sam nestrpljiv, kad ce konacno updejtat oni svoje stranice???

[gpremec]

Originally posted by FERRYS
nego pomalo sam nestrpljiv, kad ce konacno updejtat oni svoje stranice???

Shvacam te da si nestrpljiv, ali nece zato oni ranije rijesiti problem prikaza statistika. Kao sto su napisali na ovom linku, podaci nisu izgubljeni, i kada sve srede, vidjet ce se dnevni i ukupni rezultati.

Za svoje trenutno stanje uvijek mozes pogledati na svoj grid.org klijent (npr.jpg).

[gpremec]

Originally posted by SniperWolf
The username and password that u have provided does not match the one in our records....tako piše i kada označim onu gornju kvačicu i kada ju maknem...

Znaci da se vjerovatno vec netko registrirao pod tim nickom. Ako se dobro sjecam, ona kvacica je za potvrdu da si vec postojeci clan, tako ako nisi, onda bez kvacice.

[SniperWolf]

''An error occurred on the server when processing this page. Please try your request again or return at a later time.''
:mad: :mad: :mad:

[gpremec]

Originally posted by SniperWolf
''An error occurred on the server when processing this page. Please try your request again or return at a later time.''
:mad: :mad: :mad:

Ocito danas imaju veci upgrade podataka, pa su baze offline. Nikakav bed.

[SniperWolf]

Originally posted by gpremec
Ocito danas imaju veci upgrade podataka, pa su baze offline. Nikakav bed.

budem pričekal onda...

[gpremec]

Znam da dio nas "pati" da imamo pokazane svoje statistike grid.org projekta u sigu, a kako sam maloprije naletio na dva, odlucio sam ih podjeliti s vama.

Ovaj prvi je "klasican":
http://sero.cwsurf.de/generator.php

Drugi je "fensi":
http://stat.numist.net/ud/index.php

[IceFisherman]

da vidime a dela to


Edit .. hm not working .. ali dobro je i ovak

[Dragon Killer]

Originally posted by IceFisherman
Edit .. hm not working .. ali dobro je i ovak

Pa trebao si kopirat html kod

[IceFisherman]

Originally posted by Dragon Killer
Pa trebao si kopirat html kod

skužil sam .. samo kaj mi onda taj sig dojde ispod ovog postoječeg a to mi se baš ne dopada .. ja bi da su jedan kraj drugoga samo kaj neznam kak da to napravim .... tak da mi je ovo za sad dosta

[munst0r]

<table border="0">
  <tr>
    <td>Sadrzaj prve celije </td>
    <td>Sadrzaj druge celije </td>
  </tr>
</table> 


[IceFisherman]

<table border="0">
  <tr>
    <td>Sadrzaj prve celije </td>
    <td>Sadrzaj druge celije </td>
  </tr>
</table> 


[Sam Fischer]

Namjeravaju ovi kaj updateat?

[Black Dragon]

rade na tome ... budu polako

[gpremec]

Inace, jedna novost za sve nas, a narocito za korisnike UD Monitora: svi rezultati koji budu vraceni kasnije od tri dana nakon preuzimanja nece biti bodovani.
Postao im je problem sto su se rezultati poceli vracati i debelo nakon sto su bili preuzeti, pa cak i nakon sto bi cijela grupa zadataka bila zavrsena.

grid.org official communication 8/18/2005 (re: Point Credit):

"Dear members,

There has been some confusion regarding the processing of workunits and point credit for returned workunits. I will try to clarify how the current system works and mention briefly how the upgraded system will work in regards to this.

Currently, workunits are credited as long as the job is still in an "active" state. Once the job is changed from an "active" state, any outstanding workunits will not be accepted and no point credit can be given. This is not new behavior, but some of the work management (e.g. new Rosetta jobs) we have been doing lately may make you think so.

For the past many many months, the Cancer jobs have been in an "active" state and any workunits could always be uploaded and credit recieved anytime. Since the data is not new and final results have been calculated, all but one Cancer job have been disabled. Anyone still crunching any of those other workunits would not have received credit once the job was marked inactive. Please understand that we cannot let jobs run forever.

The Rosetta jobs we have been running have been finishing much more quickly than we had expected (very good). In order to not crunch redundant workunits and to move on to new data, we have been disabling the Rosetta jobs as soon as they finish and we have been starting a new one with new data immediately. This would mean that any dispatched workunits that were still outstanding would not be credited after the job was marked "inactive".

We now realize that this may be causing some frustration and will tweak the Rosetta jobs to minimize this as follows.

1) We will limit the number of concurrent dispatches per workunit. This should limit the number of outstanding dispatched workunits at any given time.

2) We have set the wallclock timeout to three days. Any workunit that takes more than three real days to complete will be discarded.

3) Once we have all of the required number of results per workunit and the job is complete, we will wait the three day wall clock limit before marking the job "inactive". This should greatly limit the number of invalid workunits since we are limiting how many active dispatches there can be.

Note that there will still be some cases where there are dispatched workunits that will not be returned before the job is marked "inactive" and no credit will be given. Also note that once we move to the latest version of the grid software, this will no longer be an issue. When we have all of the results, the job will be marked "suspended" which means no more workunits will be dispatched, but we will still credit any returned workunits. Unfortunately, that same behavior just does not exist in the version we are currently running.

I know there is frustration in the user community due to perceived "work for nothing", but we are burning through Rosetta jobs in just a few days which is amazing and something everyone should be proud of. We still have a couple of snags getting the new Cancer data uploaded, but I know we will see similarly amazing results.

Please hang in there and thank you for contributing.
_________________
-----------------
Robby Brewer
Senior Support Engineer
United Devices"

[gpremec]

I jos malo novosti! Timeout su odlucili produziti sa 3 dana na 7 dana, shvacajuci da bi na taj nacin otpisali veliku kolicinu slabijih strojeva.

grid.org official communication 8/19/2005 (re: Point Credit):

"Dear members,

After some very constructive feedback, it has become obvious that the three day timeout is not acceptable due to slower machines. We absolutely do want to keep these machines crunching work units. Therefore, we will change the timeout. Here is the new configuration of the Rosetta jobs:

1) The maximum number of dispatches per workunit will be limited to 20.

2) The wall clock timeout will be set to 7 days. This means that after 7 days, your workunit will be discarded if it has not completed processing and uploaded to the grid server. Please do not grab more work than you can complete in a week (UD Mon or whatever) so we do not have to redispatch due to lost work.

3) After we have the minimum results (currently 3) for each and every workunit, the job will be considered completed. At that time we will wait 7 days for any outstanding workunits to be returned for credit. After 7 days, the job will be marked completed and no credit will be given for outstanding workunits.

4) We will enable a new job as soon as we have the minimum results for the first job. That way there will always be new work that needs to be processed.

Again we are in a trial and error mode while we attempt to find the optimal configuration that benefits both the work that needs to be done and the user community that is performing that work. If we need to make a change we will make it. Please offer suggestions if you have them and please keep the flames to a minimum. It is not our intent to invalidate work or keep users from getting the points they deserve.

Thank you for your patience and your contribution.
_________________
-----------------
Robby Brewer
Senior Support Engineer
United Devices "

[mann]

Nije na meni da ovo govorim posto ne vrtim grid.org u PcEks timu ali cesto sam vidio na netu kako se povlace ove price o odustajanju zbog cestih problema na grid.org.

Nema smisla odustati radi toga no ako nekome to toliko smeta slicni projekti se vrte na folding@home i na worldcommunitygrid -u. Oni su sto se tice hadrware -a i software -a stabili za sada pa eto informacija tek toliko.

Inace ima tu jos mali milion gridova tipa genome@home, fightAIDS@home itd ...

[SniperWolf]

Počeo prije mjesec dana otprilike (dobro ajde 3 tjedna ) i na 64% (stari komp)

[gpremec]

Originally posted by hYcOde
...cesto sam vidio na netu kako se povlace ove price o odustajanju zbog cestih problema na grid.org.
...

Nikada nisam previse pratio sto drugi pricaju o grid.org (sto se problema tice), ali osobno nikada nisam imao problema s njim.

Vrtim grid.org preko 3 godine, vrtio sam ga na 20-tak razlicitih kompova, i sada ga vrtim na 8 kompova, i nikada nisam imao problema.
Ono kaj ljude smeta je sto se grid.org voli "opizditi" ako je sam stroj nestabilan (bilo zbog OCa ili jednostavno nekvalitetnih/nekompatibilnih komponenti), ali to vise govori o kompovima nego o samom programu.

Jedini pravi problemi sa grid.org su u zadnjih 2-3 mjeseca, ali tice se problema s grafickim prikazom statistika (sada i to rijesavaju, pa se na webu ne mogu citati nikakve statistike), plus jedan raspad sistema jer je sustav prerastao samoga sebe.

Shvacam da ljude smeta sto se ne mogu pratiti statistike na webu (niti ja nisam odusevljen time), ali rijesit ce se i to pa ce biti sve po starom.

Ima i drugih projekata (izuzmimo seti@home koji ima drugaciju ideju), ali niti jedan ne djeluje toliko ozbiljan i velik i s toliko ozbiljnih partnera u pozadini (Cancer Research vodi odjel kemije na Oxfordu, United Devices je razvio cijeli sustav koji su i veliki (IBM npr.) prihvatili kao grid sustav za svoja rijesenja). Jedini projekt poput grid.org koji je velik i ozbiljan je World Community Grid iza kojega stoji IBM, a koji se bazira na UD. Osobno razmisljam da predjem i na njega, ali na grdi.org se trazi lijek za rak, sto je po meni poprilicno vazno, s obzirom da je predvidjanje da ce velika vecina nas imati neki od oblika raka za svoga zivota.

[SniperWolf]

Slažem se. Pa šta ti je dati malo procesorskog vremena na dan kad neradiš za kompom, jer tako pomažeš sebi, tj. ljudskome rodu

[mann]

Originally posted by gpremec
Jedini projekt poput grid.org koji je velik i ozbiljan je World Community Grid iza kojega stoji IBM, a koji se bazira na UD. Osobno razmisljam da predjem i na njega, ali na grdi.org se trazi lijek za rak, sto je po meni poprilicno vazno, s obzirom da je predvidjanje da ce velika vecina nas imati neki od oblika raka za svoga zivota.

Istina slazem se cancer research je stvarno zanimljiv projekt i na poslu se vrti no posto imam na raspolaganju u privatno vrijeme nekoliko kompova ja sam ih stavio na WorldCommunityGrid. Prvo sam otisao na WCG iz znatizelje jer su ih na gridu "reklamirali" i svidjelo mi se tako da sam sada dole i dok ne zavrsi cancer ce mi jedan komp vrtiti grid.org a kasnije cu sve prebaciti na WCG.