(Frontier) Elite: Dangerous

[dashko]

Nisam pratio development Elite koliko pratim Star Citizen pa ne želim govoriti kao da znam šta će se dogoditi, ali volio bih da ship market nebude AI controlled, htio bi da bude produkcije, da ljudi sami prodaju brodove koje su napravili (progresivno, ne ispočetka jel), da bude istraživanja, da se nalaze blueprintovi za sve što u igri bude iskoristivo i takve stvari. Cross-reference sad ide na EVE koji ima odličan manufacturing i market, ali loše ostale stvari (svejedno sam 6 godina igrao), uklope u ovakav dizajn (ili nešto slično) oko brodova, u ovakav svijet i to će biti dobra igra (Star Citizen je malo bliži mojoj viziji nego Elite)

[Neo-ST]

Čisto sumnjam da ćeš to doživiti.
Moš mislit koliko treba adaptirati igru da bi ponudio opciju igračima da rade svoje brodove koji će se pojavljivati svima u persistent universeu. A tek napor oko nadziranja svega toga...da ne bi bilo letećih dilda okolo i slično...

Koliko ja znam, mislim da za sada tek razmatraju opciju custom skinova.

[dashko]

Autor Neo-ST

Čisto sumnjam da ćeš to doživiti.
Moš mislit koliko treba adaptirati igru da bi ponudio opciju igračima da rade svoje brodove koji će se pojavljivati svima u persistent universeu. A tek napor oko nadziranja svega toga...da ne bi bilo letećih dilda okolo i slično...

Koliko ja znam, mislim da za sada tek razmatraju opciju custom skinova.

Ne svoje brodove kao novi dizajn, već postojeće brodove da sami gradimo, skupljamo materijale i onda izgradimo i prodajemo.

[Neo-ST]

"We don't need the whole universe, just the Milky Way."

Where to start?

When deciding how to create the galaxy, both to be fun and as realistic as we can make it there are a number of substantial challenges that need to be overcome. First and foremost of these is the simple technological issue of how to represent efficiently something the size and scope of the Milky Way.

400 billion stars - that's a large number; and they need to be generated on demand, quickly. And they need to look right. We start with a density map of the Milky Way spiral – something we try and match up to real life data as best we can, and this results in an approximate amount of mass in each sector. We then use a sector's address to seed the random star generator. Some stars are big and rare - too big and rare to be generated in a 10LY cube, so we need a hierarchy of sectors, 8 layers deep. But we got there - one Milky Way, sir, just like you imagined.

The second problem is the realism of what is generated. It is fairly simple to pluck random numbers from a seed, but these need to distribute in such a way as to make the galaxy genuinely representative of what's there in real life. Generating a properly distributed single value of nebula mass required some extensive research into modern thinking on Initial Mass Functions. This tells us the mass at which a star enters the main sequence and begins hydrogen fusion.

My task was to design a series of processes that would generate the properties of stars, which would present a realistic galaxy. There are physically understood relationships that link the original mass and composition of a star-birthing nebula, the mass of a star, its size, temperature, brightness, colour, lifetime, and what the fate of the star will be once it runs out of hydrogen in its core to fuse. It was challenging to design an efficient on-the-fly process to take a single input, an amount of nebula mass, and create values for every other parameter, but it was also enjoyable to dig through astrophysics textbooks and papers to refresh memories from University. It was satisfying to see the testing tool I created to examine the results of my random generation processes outputting scientifically sound distributions of the parameters mentioned above.

And it's not simply stars. There are many other interesting phenomena in the galaxy, all of which we want to account for. Bright nebulae left over after a super-nova event and the residual neutron star, black holes are just a few examples. This of course leads into the final challenge which is building the systems surrounding the star systems in the galaxy.

What I found interesting was the star system generation, as procedural generation has been a topic of interest to me for a while because I love the idea that I can create an algorithm and still be surprised by some of the results it produces. The most challenging part of this was researching the current theories on how the stars and planets form and then trying to translate those theories into a simple algorithm that can quickly generate realistic looking star systems.

Of equal importance to plausible looking systems was to arrange the algorithms so that they respect physical laws. A nice example of this is the Roche Limit or Radius... As a body approaches the Roche limit of its parent object (for example as a moon approaches a planet) it gradually loses its spherical shape, and suffers massive tidal heating. Once it passes inside that limit it disintegrates and instead of a planet or moon you end up with ring system(s). ”

Za kraj par službenih screenshotova direktno iz Bete2:

• http://i.imgur.com/Me53Lbo.jpg
• http://i.imgur.com/hJOEPxq.jpg
• http://i.imgur.com/KsA4JKU.jpg
• http://i.imgur.com/JNywvSl.jpg

EDIT:
Kompletan popis promjena

sve je to ok, ali sad je skoro 1.10., a release je do kraja 2014.
Obično se zna unaprijed. Kupio sam mercenary edition, al koliko još čekat?
Ili "delayed za 2019".?

[Neo-ST]

Elite se razvija po rasporedu bez kašnjenja. Star Citizen kasni debelo.
Do sada su sva izdanja izašla kako je i obećano, pa tako mislim da će i release.
Strpljenja
Ili nadoplati za ulazak u Betu, provjeri na njihovom siteu: store.zaonce.net
Ne znam jel ta mogućnost još otvorena, a sad nemam vremena provjeravati.

[Necto]

Evo uzeo i ja betu sad kad je 2.0 out, pa nek mu je tih 100kn.

I odma vidim da su upravo nerfali SystemsOFF voznju samo uz inerciju.
Sada ti brod usporava pomalo, a na svakoj drugoj osi izuzev +X usporava jos i vise.
Znaci mozemo slobodno zaboraviti sturbuck manevar i slicne. =X

[Neo-ST]

2.01 je već vani, a užurbano se radi na 2.02 zbog većih bugova koji se događaju, pa preporučam da se strpiš barem dok 2.02 izađe jer još nije sve riješeno, a problemi su poprilični.

Slabljenje flight assist off letenja je s razlogom napravljeno, najočitiji razlog je da je vožnja u takvom načinu omogućavala previše prednosti nad igračima koji su letjeli sa FA ON, tipa mogli su postići puno veću brzinu puno brže, mogli su dulje letit u silent modu, itd.

Da ne duljim, preporučam da vidiš ovo (novo) obrazloženje od glavnog dizajnera: http://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthr...186#post808186

Kao i drugog dizajnera: http://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=44057

[Necto]

Da skuzija san da su to nerfali radi ekipe koja se boostala beskonacno i tako dostizala masivne brzine.
Al svidja mi se ovo sta je Sandro napisa da ce mozda uvesti neki time-frame u kojem bi FAOFF bio neometan, pa tek nakon toga da krene usporavati.

Ali posebno mi je imbecilno sta su dodatno znerfali sve osi koje nisu +X, jer em sta je nerealno prakticki ti ubije 60% FAOFF manevara. =(
A obrzalozenje im je da na taj nacin zele u prvi plan gurnuti "dog-fajting" avioni u svemiru nacin igre.
Sta je IMHO glupost zesca. =(

Al ajd barem ce SC imati neopstruirano kretanje, pa se slobodno saltamo vamo tamo ovisno o raspolozenju.

[Neo-ST]