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Staro 27.04.2012., 14:44   #1
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(riješeno) Windows 7 odbija vanjski USB HDD i želi format

Sinoć sam napravio backup na externi usb hdd (hitachi 500gb, 2.5", sata). Otišao sam na Safely Remove. Izgasio komp (hibernacija). Izvadio usb kabel iz diska i disk stavo u torbu. Na poslu sam disk uključio, i kaže Win7; "You need to format the disk in drive...", i to na više različitih računala/usb portova i kablova.

- Windows explorer ne ulazi u folder strukturu diska; "...is not accessible", "access is denied"
- ChkDsk iz CMDa ne može pristupiti disku
- Disk Management kaže Healthy NTFS partition
- putem od doma do posla nije bilo ništa što bi moglo prouzročiti fizičko oštećenje
- disk ni sada ni prije nije pokazivao nikakve probleme, vrti se, zvuk je normalan

E sad, sve ovo gore inače bi me uputilo na neispravan disk, sata/usb, kontroler ili nešto slično...ALI...putem Easus Parition Managera, pristupio sam disku i preko njega napravio ChkDsk, i Drive Surface test i sve se odskeniralo bez ikakve greške.

EDIT: HD Tune kaže u Health da je sve OK. I radi Error scan (još uvijek u tijeku, pa ne mogu reći rezultatat, ali siguran sam da neće naći ništa). Quick scan nije našao ništa.
EDIT2: Nije ni eksterno kućište u pitanju, a ni USB kabel. Probao sam spojiti disk direktno na matičnu, i ista stvar; "Access is denied".

Mislim da nije problem u samom disku već u vezi disk > Windows.

Pošto backup radim na dnevnoj bazi, neću izgubiti podatke čak i ako napravim format, ali upravo krećem na put za vikend i trebam podatke s tog diska sa sobom. Mogao bih iz Easus Partition Managera prekopirati particiju sa diska na drugi, ali na žalost jednostavno trenutno nemam dostupan disk s toliko slobodnog porostora. A nemam sa sobom ni drugu platformu...

Dakle, može me spasiti jedino neki savjet kako da natjeram windowse da prihvate disk...
Ima tko ideju?
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Zadnje izmijenjeno od: estugarda. 28.04.2012. u 20:47.
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Staro 27.04.2012., 17:25   #2
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Pa mislim da si sve manje-više probao osim pristupanja disku preko nekog novijeg linux live cd-a koji bi trebao vidit tvoje dokumente ako je sve ok sa diskom..
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Staro 27.04.2012., 17:45   #3
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Da, ali još uvijek ne znam u čemu je zapravo problem...
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Staro 27.04.2012., 17:50   #4
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Neznam ni ja, ali me taj postupak par puta spasio od gubitka dokumenata sa ispravnih pa čak i neispravnih diskova, a nijedna win aplikacija im nije mogla pristupit..
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Staro 27.04.2012., 17:53   #5
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Hvala. Probat ću ako stignem. Imaš kakav link možda?
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2002: AMD Duron 1200, Matsonic MS8127C
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Staro 27.04.2012., 18:44   #6
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Probaj sa Hirens CD-a pokrenuti Mini WindowsXP pa vidi da li iz njih možeš pristupiti disku, čisto da si eliminiraš Windows 7 iz igre.
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Staro 27.04.2012., 19:07   #7
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.. imaš i na Horens-u također linux live distribuciju (nisam siguran jeli na 14 ili 15 verziji)..
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Staro 28.04.2012., 20:28   #8
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Upravo sam provjerio. Disk najnormalnije radi na Mini Windows XP sa Hirensa. Prolazi sve testove. Ali ni jedno računalo sa Win7 ga ne čita...

Pa ga ti sad znaj...
Definitivno je do Win7, samo kaj? Netko bi mi uštedio dosta vremena i živaca, kad bi uletio s nekom idejom.
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2003: AMD Athlon XP 2400+ Thoroughbred, Matsonic MS8137C
2003: Intel Pentium III Mobile 1000 Tualatin, Compaq Evo N110
2002: AMD Duron 1200, Matsonic MS8127C
2001: AMD Duron 800, Matsonic MS8127C
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Staro 28.04.2012., 20:45   #9
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Skužio sam igrom slučaja. Nešto je pošlo krivo u Security > Advanced... Owneri i ostali useri su bili hrpa slova i brojki...Pobrisao sam. Dodao novog ownera i proradilo.
Gadan propust Win7 IMHO. Dakle vjerojatno neki log ili nešto se zbrčkalo i zalockalo disk. Katastrofa.

Uglavnom, riješeno.
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SSD: Crucial MX100 256 GB
HDD: WD Scorpio Black 750GB @ 7200
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SSD: Samsung Evo Plus M.2 NVME 250GB
PSU: Seasonic 620W
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Display: 32" LCD TV + BENQ W1070 DLP projector
Sound: Yamaha RX481 + ELAC Cinema 5.1
Input: Logitech vulgaris



CPU: AMD Athlon X2 5050e @0.8-2.6GHz + AC Freezer 64 Pro PWM
MBO: Gigabyte GA-M720-US3
RAM: Kingmax 2x2GB DDR2 800MHz
VGA: Gigabyte GeForce 8600 GTS SP
HDD: Seagate 7200.10 250GB single platter (Speedy Gonzales)
PSU: Chieftec 400W
CASE: Frontier generic
Display: 22" LCD AOC 2230Hf + ACER X1160 DLP projector
Sound: Logitech S-220 2.1
Input: Logitech vulgaris
OS: Windows 8.1 PRO x64


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2010: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T, Thuban, ASrock 880G Extreme3
2010: AMD Phenom II X4 Deneb 945, Gigabyte 790X-DS4
2009: Intel C2Q Q6600, GIGABYTE EP31
2008: AMD Athlon X2 Winsdor 5600+ AM2, MSI K9N Neo V3, Gigabyte 790x
2008: Intel Core2Duo T7200, Toshiba A100-847
2007: AMD Athlon X2 4600+ Manchester S939, ASUS A8n32-SLI Deluxe
2005: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice S939, Asus A8V Deluxe
2003: AMD Athlon XP 2400+ Thoroughbred, Matsonic MS8137C
2003: Intel Pentium III Mobile 1000 Tualatin, Compaq Evo N110
2002: AMD Duron 1200, Matsonic MS8127C
2001: AMD Duron 800, Matsonic MS8127C
1998: Intel Pentium II 300 Klamath
1996: Intel Pentium 120
1993: Intel i386SXSA 40MHz(turbo)
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