Nvidia GeForce GTS450

[fran123456]

Stiže nam još jedan oblik Fermija koji bio trebao pohoditi mainstream i biti konkurent sa HD5770.

Two days after reports surfaced about NVIDIA readying the GeForce GTS 450 mainstream graphics SKU for a late August launch, PCInLife got a hold of the PCB's x-ray drawings, which reveals quite a bit about the GF106 GPU the GTS 450 is based on. The PCB reveals a square GPU that is bordered on three sides with six memory chips, is powered by a 3+1 phase VRM, draws power from a 6-pin PCI-E power input, supports 2-way SLI, and has display outputs including two DVI and a mini-HDMI.

The presence of six memory chips particularly intrigues, as it could indicate a 192-bit wide memory interface. Perhaps two of those slots are empty, if GTS 450 does end up with a 128-bit memory interface, and enabled on a higher SKU, or that GTS 450 itself has a 192-bit memory interface (supporting 768 MB or 1536 MB of GDDR5 memory). Expect more details to come out in the run up for end-August.

techPowerUp!

NVIDIA's march into the mainstream graphics segment with graphics processors derived from the Fermi architecture is headed by the GF106 GPU. One of the first SKUs based on it us the GeForce GTS 450. PCB drawings of its reference board surfaced last week. According to fresh details sourced by Donanim Haber, NVIDIA pushed back the launch of GTS 450 from 31st August to 13th September. The site also sourced clock speeds of the SKU, which are 789 MHz (core), and 3760 MHz or 940 MHz actual (memory). The GPU on this SKU has a 128-bit wide memory interface, carrying 1 GB of GDDR5 memory. NVIDIA is targeting the $160 price point with the GTS 450.

techPowerUp!

[Doink the Clown]

Nvidia GF106 Chip For GeForce GTS 450 Leaked

[fran123456]

Well placed sources seem to have finally pieced together specifications of NVIDIA's GeForce GTS 450 graphics card, the company's mid-range offering that competes with ATI Radeon HD 5700 series products. In the run up to this, we've come across reports showing that the SKU is based on a GPU codenamed GF106, then we came across NVIDIA reference design PCB drawings, followed by clock speeds, and finally, pictures of the GPU itself revealing quite a bit about the die size. The most recent report affirms the specs we know till now, plus revealed the CUDA core count, which is 192. The CUDA cores are clocked at 1566 MHz, and that the memory is clocked at 902 MHz (3608 MHz effective).

So as a quick recap of the tech specs of the GeForce GTS 450, it's based on the new 40 nm GF106 silicon, the die area is roughly 240 mm². The GPU has 192 CUDA cores, and a 128-bit wide GDDR5 memory interface holding 1 GB of memory. The core is clocked at 789 MHz, and memory at 902 MHz (3608 MHz effective), translating into 57.8 GB/s of memory bandwidth, CUDA cores at 1566 MHz. It supports 2-way SLI, and gives you access to the latest PC graphics technologies, including support for DirectX 11 and OpenGL 4.x, along with support for a wide range of NVIDIA-exclusive technologies. NVIDIA's GeForce GTS 450 will be released by mid-September.

[nexusone]

I još ponešto glasina koje se mogu naći ovdje.

The latest rumors (and these really are rumors) suggest that the entry level the GTS 450 cards will retail at only $129, though we find that to be on the very low side. Exciting stuff though.

Gledano iz perspektive gamer-a, radi se o GTX260 sa DX11.

Morat će bit i bolja i jeftinija od HD5770, a opet miriše na FAIL.

[MAGARAC]

Autor Nybelung

Gledano iz perspektive gamer-a, radi se o GTX260 sa DX11.

Morat će bit i bolja i jeftinija od HD5770, a opet miriše na FAIL.

Morat će bit bolja od HD6770..

[nexusone]

Autor Nybelung

Gledano iz perspektive gamer-a, radi se o GTX260 sa DX11.

Morat će bit i bolja i jeftinija od HD5770, a opet miriše na FAIL.

Ali opet ako će doći 129$ što je negdje u rangu HD5750 ili kod nas kakvih 1000kn , onda i neće biti tako loši izbor, sve ovisi kakve će joj zaprova biti performanse...

[fran123456]

Bulgarian e-tailer IskamPC.com had NVIDIA's upcoming GeForce GTS 450 listed online momentarily (presumably in error) before removing the listing. Luckily, Fudzilla were able to grab a shot of the ASUS GeForce GTS 450 based before the listing was removed. The card is a non-reference design, with ASUS's DirectCU cooler. The specifications are identical to the ones previously leaked.

The TDP of the GTS 450 is listed as 125W, quite a bit over its competitors, the HD 5750 and HD 5770 at 86W and 102W respectively. The final retail price of the GTS 450 is expected to be in the $130, which could make it a strong price/performance products.
The GTS 450 is set to release on September 13th. However, it is so late to the party (11 months after the HD 5700) that it might as well be early for the HD 6700 series, rumoured to release just one or two months after the GTS 450 release.

Izvor : Vr-Zone

[mr. Jozo]

evo review gts 450 klik

[MAGARAC]

Baš i nije neki review ali ak je tak 5770 je brža a 6770 bu još brža.

[mr. Jozo]

Autor MAGARAC

Baš i nije neki review ali ak je tak 5770 je brža a 6770 bu još brža.

a dobro ima grafova, samo je neuredno složeno

[Rebbit]

Autor mr. Jozo

evo review gts 450 klik

kak se meni cini po ovim rezovima...
gts450 je fail...

a kamoli onda kad ovi izdaju 6xxx seriju....
pa ce bit jos veci fail, osim ak neces kostati tipa 200kn manje od 5770..

[nexusone]

Autor Rebbit

kak se meni cini po ovim rezovima...
gts450 je fail...

a kamoli onda kad ovi izdaju 6xxx seriju....
pa ce bit jos veci fail, osim ak neces kostati tipa 200kn manje od 5770..

Nije FAIL, kako si to uspio zaključiti?

Kao prvo GTS450 bi se trebala smijetiti između HD5750 i HD5770 tako da ti rezultati nisu iznenađenje, a i u nekim testovima je čak brža što je još dodatni plus, a po najavama trebala bi doci 129$ što je u rangu sa HD5750 i tu je tvojih 200kn, a o seriji HD67XX se još nezna nista previše i zato nemaj donositi zaključke bez nekih činjenica!

[PointDexter]

A valjalo bi pričekati i sljedeće nvidia drivere!

[pinkskin]

Evo sad zašto je fail GF106 ili ti GTS450 ima čip dimenzija 15.3x15.7mm ili 240mm2 dok 5770 ima 170mm2, što znači da je GTS450 veča 45%, a ima manje a možda čak i budu iste performanse.

To znači da za cijenu dvije GTS450 AMD napravi skoro tri 5770, a sada uskoro dolazi i 6770 koja će biti jača od 5770 nekih 30% a cijena proizvodnje cca ista, tako da če da bude problema za nvidiu.

[tole_]

Autor pinkskin

Evo sad ćemo reći zašto je fail GF106 ili ti GTS450 ima čip dimenzija 15.3x15.7mm ili 240mm2 dok 5770 ima 170mm2, što znači da je GTS450 veča 45%, a ima manje a možda čak i budu iste performanse.

To znači da za cijenu dvije GTS450 AMD napravi skoro tri 5770, a sada uskoro dolazi i 6770 koja će biti jača od 5770 nekih 30% a cijena proizvodnje cca ista, tako da če da bude problema za nvidiu.

Gordon Gecko i Nostradamus u jednom, to je profil svakog fanatika u zadnje vrijeme. Cak se i izrazavaju u prvom licu mnozine Ajmo ipak malo pricekat neki sluzbeni test i cijene, pa cemo suditi jel valja ili ne. Ove pricice koliko neki cip kosta firmu mozete macku o rep objesiti jer (vjerojatno?) nitko ovdje nije dionicar tih firmi, tako da se ne uzbudjujete dzabe. Ako ja za svoje novce dobijem konkurentnu karticu po povoljnoj cijeni zadnje sto me brine jest koliko je stajala njena proizvodnja i koliko je neki tamo prljavi kapitalist zaradio.

[pinkskin]

To koliko proizvođač zarađuje na karticama je važno jer što više zarađuje to može više cijenu spustit, zato obično ATI ima jeftinije proizvode jer ga manje izađe proizvodnja.

Da ATI nije tako dobar to koliko firmu košta čip više bi te zanimalo jer bi nvidia imala puno veče cijene nego sada.

[nexusone]

Autor tole_

Gordon Gecko i Nostradamus u jednom, to je profil svakog fanatika u zadnje vrijeme. Cak se i izrazavaju u prvom licu mnozine Ajmo ipak malo pricekat neki sluzbeni test i cijene, pa cemo suditi jel valja ili ne. Ove pricice koliko neki cip kosta firmu mozete macku o rep objesiti jer (vjerojatno?) nitko ovdje nije dionicar tih firmi, tako da se ne uzbudjujete dzabe. Ako ja za svoje novce dobijem konkurentnu karticu po povoljnoj cijeni zadnje sto me brine jest koliko je stajala njena proizvodnja i koliko je neki tamo prljavi kapitalist zaradio.

U potponosti se slazem sa tobom, dali će biti fail ili ne to ćemo vidjeti, ali nebi netko izdao proizvod koji nije konkurentan na trzistu(čisto malo zdrave logike ).

Jedino me zbunjuju ova dva neiskoristena memorijska prostora koja se vide na ovoj slici, pa je čak moguće da u GTS450 kartici GF106 čip nije cijeli u pogonu te će najvjerojatnije pogoniti još neku karticu(npr GTS455 koja se spominje u novim driverima koje možete naći ovdje)

[generic]

Autor nexusone

U potponosti se slazem sa tobom, dali će biti fail ili ne to ćemo vidjeti, ali nebi netko izdao proizvod koji nije konkurentan na trzistu(čisto malo zdrave logike ).

Jedino me zbunjuju ova dva neiskoristena memorijska prostora koja se vide na ovoj slici, pa je čak moguće da u GTS450 kartici GF106 čip nije cijeli u pogonu te će najvjerojatnije pogoniti još neku karticu(npr GTS455 koja se spominje u novim driverima koje možete naći ovdje)

Zdrava logika je poželjna, međutim teba uzeti u obzir da se često pravi motivi tek kasnije otkriju. Npr. bolje izbaciti i nešto nekonkurentno, nego ništa, čisto s gledišta poslovanja jer i kod nekonkurentnih stvari će se neka lova vrtiti od fanboyeva. Nekad teba poslovati i s gubitkom, samo da bi se zadržao tok novca. Nisam stručnjak, ali što misliš da više ruši dionice, prodavanje lošijeg proizvoda ili prodavanja ničega?

Anyway, u vezi slobodnih mjesta na kartici, što misliš kako nastaje npr. GTX 460 sa 768 MB memorije i 1024 MB memorije? Razlika ti je upravo u tome

[nexusone]

Autor generic

Anyway, u vezi slobodnih mjesta na kartici, što misliš kako nastaje npr. GTX 460 sa 768 MB memorije i 1024 MB memorije? Razlika ti je upravo u tome

To mi je jasno između GTX 460 sa 768 MB memorije i 1024 MB memorije, ali u ovom slucaju to može značiti da GF106 dolazi sa 192 bitnim kontrolerom jer upravo ta dva mijesta daju još dodatna 64 bita širine memorijske sabirnice ako je o tome riječ..

[generic]

Autor nexusone

To mi je jasno između GTX 460 sa 768 MB memorije i 1024 MB memorije, ali u ovom slucaju to može značiti da GF106 dolazi sa 192 bitnim kontrolerom jer upravo ta dva mijesta daju još dodatna 64 bita širine memorijske sabirnice ako je o tome riječ..

Aha, istina. Krivo sam protumačio ovo tvoje "nije cijeli u pogonu" . To se spominje u prvom postu topica.

Međutim, čini da da čip i nije cijeli u pogonu (i u pogledu SP-a) s obzirom na ovo.

GTS 455 is 288SP 192bit.
GTS 450 includes 192SP 128bit and 192bit.

edit:
Kaže se: Živi bili pa umrli

[nexusone]

Autor generic

Aha, istina. Krivo sam protumačio ovo tvoje "nije cijeli u pogonu" . To se spominje u prvom postu topica.

Međutim, čini da da čip i nije cijeli u pogonu (i u pogledu SP-a) s obzirom na ovo.

Eto vidis da smo se razumijeli..

Uglavno ako čip ima 288SP i 192bit sabirnicu onda i opravdava svoju veličinu, a i performanse bi u konacnici trebale biti puno bolje od Radeona HD5770 ako mu je verzija sa 192SP i 128 bita već za vratom...

Uglavno, kako se ono kaže, živi bili pa vidjeli

[fran123456]

Chinese website IT168 posted slides leaked from the GeForce GTS 450 press presentation. The slides reveal the final specifications of the upcoming GPU, as well as show the market positioning. To begin with, the GTS 450, as mentioned in numerous occasions, has 192 CUDA cores, 1 GB of GDDR5 memory across a 128-bit wide memory interface, and clock speeds which include 783/1566/900 MHz (core/shader/memory); but the slides confirm that NVIDIA's reference design cooler looks nearly identical to the GeForce GTS 460, at least as far as the cooler shroud and fan goes. Other specifications confirmed are the TMU count: 32, four Polymorph engines (should translate into 16 ROPs), power input being just one 6-pin PCI-Express connector, and card max power draw of just 106W, nearly 2/3 that of the GTX 460.

NVIDIA is positioning this SKU to be the successor to the popular GeForce GTS 250, which held the sub-$200 and later sub-$160 markets for NVIDIA, for quite some time. Its target buyers are those which need a light on the pocket graphics card for LANParty rigs. The card can afford users smooth gameplay of the latest DirectX 11 titles at 1680x1050 with 4xAA. Unfortunately, what we're looking out for the most (price), isn't mentioned. Perhaps NVIDIA will stabilize the price of this SKU based on how it plays out against competing SKUs. Speaking of which, the ATI Radeon HD 5700 series is in this card's cross

Izvor : techPowerUp

[nexusone]

Izgleda da je Nvidia odlučila izdati GTS450 kartice tjedan dana ranije prema guru3d-u.

The wait is over, guys! People at nVIDIA think that they need to rush things, so they released their GeForce GTS 450 one week earlier than it was expected; therefore, Radeon HD 5770 has a new opponent to challenge with. As it turns out, the graphics card is already available in Europe, found at a German store, about €150.

[geronimo_2]

Autor nexusone

Izgleda da je Nvidia odlučila izdati GTS450 kartice tjedan dana ranije prema guru3d-u.

znaci ovo cudo je kao zamjena za GTS250 ako sam dobro skuzio? znaci da bi GTS250 cjene trebale otic dole ili prije da ce ih drzat kao sto drze GTX260 ?

[fran123456]

Vjerojatno držat.

A picture of EVGA's GeForce GTS 450 SuperClocked graphics card made its way to the internet, along with some details. SuperClocked is EVGA's level-1 factory-overclocked variant. This card features clock speeds of 882 MHz core, 1764 MHz CUDA core, and 950 MHz (3800 MHz effective) memory, which are significantly higher than the NVIDIA reference speeds of 783/1566/900(3600) MHz core/CUDA core/memory. If this is any indication, the GeForce GTS 450 should be a nice treat for overclockers.

While EVGA's card uses NVIDIA reference-design cooler, it uses a black-colored seemingly-custom PCB. Perhaps it's developed by EVGA, sticking to NVIDIA's design-guide but isn't exactly reference-design. The card from this angle also shows the cooler's internals. If you've noticed the GTX 460 reference cooler from the inside, you'll notice a GPU base on which there's a heatsink with spirally-projecting, forked aluminum fins, and heat is also conveyed to two arc-shaped dense aluminum fin blocks on either sides of the heatsink by two heat pipes. With the GTS 450, it looks like the heatsink is completely discoid, with radially-projecting fins all around the core, meaning that it does away with those two additional fin blocks. EVGA's card features 1 GB of GDDR5 memory across a 128-bit wide memory interface. DonanimHaber expects its price to be US $150-160.

techPowerUp!

[ECHO]

Ta grafa 450 GTS bi trebala konkurirati i čak biti brža od ATI -a 5770 barem po pisanjima što u prijevodu onda 250 GTS/4850 tu nema šta tražiti, a hoće li im cijena pasti vjerujem da hoće pa i sad je niska cca 800krznaša nije puno a grafa je odlična do reze 22" monitora.

[fran123456]

Review

[Mandusin]

GeForce GTS 450 review roundup

[mr. Jozo]

Autor Mandusin

GeForce GTS 450 review roundup

loše, jako loše jedino je u far cry 2 brža od 5770 al opet ako bude ispod 1000kn nije loša kupnja, btw baš me zanima kako se nosi s starom gts250