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Staro 10.07.2018., 12:49   #1
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Preporuka za kvalitetan wi-fi router

Trebam kvalitetan router, a nisam se snašao uponudi.

Trenutno imam Innbox v45 na Optimi koji me ne zadovoljava brzinom prijenosa datoteka na windows/linux/android platformi (rijetko dobijem više od 2MB/s, a često je ispod 1), a ni kvalitetom signala. Za dio kuće (prizemlje) moram koristi extender.

Dakle trebam preporuku za router sl. karakteristika:

1. Što veće vrzine prijenosa datoteka bežično.
2. Što bolji wifi odašiljač.
3. Barem 2 USB 3.0 ulaza za priključak 2 3.5HDD-a sa docka koji ima svoje napajanje
4. Podrška za DLNA za ova 2 diska
6. Poželjno je da bude i 4G router ako se budem prebacivao na mobilni u budućnosti
7. Što jeftinije, naravno.
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Staro 10.07.2018., 13:19   #2
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Ovo šta bi ti htio pomalo spada u čuvenu: I tata bi sine ... čitaj puno / previše tražiš a pogotovo u jednom uređaju.

Taj Innbox v45 je još jedan u nizu šroteks uređaja, možeš se samo ponadati da kad ga prebaciš u Bridge mode za internet + ugašen WiFi da će barem to odrađivati kako treba.

Za pokrivanje WiFi signalom trebaš na svakoj etaži odvojeni AP / Router a između Lan kabel ili ako može PowerLine.

Uređaji za 3G/4G su opet posebna varijanta / kategorija, jedino ako odabrana zvijer može prepoznati i upotrijebiti usb modem (obično podržano točno određeni modeli).

Za sve / većinu zahtjeva trebaš novije (i skuplje) uređaje koji imaju:
- GB WAN i Lan portove
- WiFi sa vanjskim antenama + po mogućnosti 2x2 izvedbom + poželjno dual band (2.4 + 5 Ghz)
- USB 3.0 i DLNA samo još više sužavaju izbor ...

Vjerojatno neki od skupih zvijeri Asus ACxxx modela ili nešto slično, nofčiće da ni ne spominjem.
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Staro 10.07.2018., 13:43   #3
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A vidim da većina ovih high-end uređaja ima sve te opcije, a cijene žestoko variraju. U tom smislu hoću što jeftinije. Ne tražim besplatno.
Nemam etaže. Kuća je prizemnica. Ali zidovi su d=50cm, stari zidani i to je očito problem.
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Staro 10.07.2018., 13:54   #4
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https://www.asus.com/us/Networking/R...ure-GT-AC5300/

s ovime nećeš pogriješiti. Ali ako si mislio sve one zahtjeve za router upakirati u uređaj od 300-400 kn, to nažalost nije moguće. Ako želiš top router, onda ćeš ga i dobrano platiti.
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Staro 10.07.2018., 14:19   #5
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OK. Sad smo tu negdje gdje sam bio prije OP-a. S jedne strane je taj AC5300 za 2300 hrk. S druge strane (ili zapravo negdje u sredini) je recimo AC68U koji je više nego duplo jeftiniji. +/-, vs i to...
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ali AC-68U nema 2 USB 3.0 porta koje si naveo kao zahtjev:
https://www.asus.com/us/Networking/R...pecifications/
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Staro 10.07.2018., 14:49   #7
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Ah da...i zapravo mi se čini da nema ni 3G/4G nego podršku za 4G stickove. Neka me netko ispravi ili potvrdi...
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Nije to isto ali više USB 3.0 porta se može dobiti sa vanjskim HUB - om,
za 3G/4G možda je i bolje preko stick - ova jer ih lakše zamijeniš nego da su integrirani u uređaj a osim toga to ti je alternativni link.
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Ja doma zamjenio Innbox v45 sa fritz 7360 koji je uparen sa dva 802.11n dualradio AP-a. Sve zajedno sam platio mozda 800kn. Fritz ima podrsku za nas, vpn, 3g/4g modem podrsku dok AP na dvije lokacije pokriva sve.

Fritz kao zamjena za router je stvarno jednostavno i prakticno rjesenje.
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Kolega je tražio preporuku za router, vi preporučate umjesto jednog dodatnih 2-3-4 uređaja. Meni nema goreg nego da imam nekoliko uređaja gdje u biti sve može jedan odraditi. Naravno može se staviti slabiji uređaj pa USB 3.0 hubom nadoknaditi nedostatak usb portova. Isto tako se može i s dodatnim uređajima pokriti wireless itd. Ali ako želi rješenje all in one, onda neka uzme malo kvalitetniji router, jednokratno ga plati malo više (kartice ) i riješio je problem(e) za duži period vremena. Npr taj AC5300 ga može služiti dugi niz godina, neovisno o provideru. Samo ga zakači, bridge mod i peglaj.
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Ma gle, on trazi jedan router koji ce pokriti i prizemlje i godnji kat. Mozes dati 17 000kn ali preko 100mW nemozes ici jer je to limit. Mozda mozes na 5Ghz, trebalo bi vidjeti sto dopusta router u tom bandu. Router koji si mu ti dao je odlican, ali koliko kvalitetno ce pokriti dva kata i dalje je upitno. Osobitno na 5GHz.

P.s. Sad tek kuzim da je jedna etaza. Ha, ok, mozda nesto postigne. No ako mu i sada treba extender tesko da ce sa jedne lokacije onda opet pokriti apsolutno sve.
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Staro 11.07.2018., 12:07   #12
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Na kraju krajeva, extender može i ostati, ali defintivno trebam više od 2MB/s prijenosa podataka. To je ključno.
Da ne moram slagati server ili kupovati NAS, rado bih da mogu uštekati 2 eksterna diska u router i koristiti ih za DLNA. Pošto diskove i dockove već imam, to bi bila znatna ušteda, čak i kad bih kupio skuplji router.
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CPU: AMD Athlon X2 5050e @0.8-2.6GHz + AC Freezer 64 Pro PWM
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HDD: Seagate 7200.10 250GB single platter (Speedy Gonzales)
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Display: 22" LCD AOC 2230Hf + ACER X1160 DLP projector
Sound: Logitech S-220 2.1
Input: Logitech vulgaris
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2017: FX-8370E, ASRock 990FX Extreme3
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2015: i7 6700k, Asus Z170-A
2014: FX-8350, ASRock 990FX Extreme3
2012: i7 3610QM, Asus N76VZ
2011: AMD Athlon II X4 640, Gigabyte MA770-UD3
2010: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T, Thuban, ASrock 880G Extreme3
2010: AMD Phenom II X4 Deneb 945, Gigabyte 790X-DS4
2009: Intel C2Q Q6600, GIGABYTE EP31
2008: AMD Athlon X2 Winsdor 5600+ AM2, MSI K9N Neo V3, Gigabyte 790x
2008: Intel Core2Duo T7200, Toshiba A100-847
2007: AMD Athlon X2 4600+ Manchester S939, ASUS A8n32-SLI Deluxe
2005: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice S939, Asus A8V Deluxe
2003: AMD Athlon XP 2400+ Thoroughbred, Matsonic MS8137C
2003: Intel Pentium III Mobile 1000 Tualatin, Compaq Evo N110
2002: AMD Duron 1200, Matsonic MS8127C
2001: AMD Duron 800, Matsonic MS8127C
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