AMD FX "Bobcat/Llano/Bulldozer/Piledriver" Info Thread

[McG]

Informacije, testiranja i recenzije: Bobcat, Llano i Bulldozer

Bobcat (single & dual-core):

Multiple devices, including notebooks ultrathins, HD netbooks and small form factor desktops. Sub-one watt capable x86 CPU core that first comes to market in the Ontario and Zacate Accelerated Processing Units (APU) for mainstream, ultrathin, value, and netbook form factors as well as small form factor desktop solutions. Bobcat is designed to be an extremely small, highly flexible, out-of-order execution x86 core that easily can be scaled up and combined with other IP in SoC configurations. The low-end of the market will continue to be served E-series accelerated processing units with one or two cores and a basic Radeon HD 6000-class graphics endine code-named Zacate under AMD Vision sticker.

Zacate - AMD E Series APUs (18W)

• AMD E-240 with AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics (single-core CPU @ 1.5GHz & GPU @ 500MHz)
  
  
• AMD E-300 with AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics (dual-core CPU @ 1.3GHz & GPU @ 488MHz)
  
  
• AMD E-350 with AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics (dual-core CPU @ 1.6GHz & GPU @ 500MHz)
  
  
• AMD E-450 with AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics (dual-core CPU @ 1.65GHz & GPU @ 600MHz)

Ontario - AMD C Series APUs (9W)

• AMD C-30 with AMD Radeon HD 6250 Graphics (single-core CPU @ 1.2GHz & GPU @ 280MHz)
  
  
• AMD C-50 with AMD Radeon HD 6250 Graphics (dual-core CPU @ 1.0GHz & GPU @ 280MHz)
  
  
• AMD C-60 with AMD Radeon HD 6250 Graphics (dual-core CPU @ 1.33GHz & GPU @ 400MHz)

Zacate - AMD Z Series APUs (~6W)

• AMD Z-01 with AMD Radeon HD 6250 Graphics (dual-core CPU @ 1.0GHz & GPU @ 276MHz)

Llano (dual & quad-core):

Llano is a 32nm APU including up to four x86 cores and a DirectX 11-capable GPU, primarily intended for performance and mainstream notebooks and mainstream desktops. Llano is engineered to deliver impressive visual computing experiences, outstanding performance with low power and long battery life. Llano will use upgraded Stars CPU cores and a Redwood-class GPU. It will be manufactured by GlobalFoundries on their 32nm SOI process and target the same market as the existing Athlon II line. Like Athlon II, it will be available in dual, triple, and quad-core variants. Llano will have an integrated PCIe 2.0 controller, a dual channel DDR3-1600 memory controller and 1MB L2 cache per core (no L3 cache). The accelerated processing units known as Llano will become A-series processors. Such chips will power AMD Vision Ultimate and AMD Vision Premium platforms.

Dual-core Llano APUs

• E2-3250 with AMD Radeon HD 6370 GPU
  
  
• A4-3350 with AMD Radeon HD 6410 GPU
  
  
• A4-3360 with AMD Radeon HD 6410 GPU

Quad-core Llano APUs

• A6-3450 with AMD Radeon HD 6530 GPU
  
  
• A6-3450P with AMD Radeon HD 6530 GPU
  
  
• A6-3460 with AMD Radeon HD 6530 GPU
  
  
• A6-3460P with AMD Radeon HD 6530 GPU
  
  
• A8-3550 with AMD Radeon HD 6550 GPU
  
  
• A8-3550P with AMD Radeon HD 6550 GPU
  
  
• A8-3560 with AMD Radeon HD 6550 GPU
  
  
• A8-3560P with AMD Radeon HD 6550 GPU

Bulldozer (quad, hexa & octo-core):

Multi-threaded high-performance x86 CPU core contained in the Zambezi processor for client PCs and Interlagos and Valencia processors for servers. Bulldozer-based CPUs will be based on GlobalFoundries' advanced 32nm SOI process technology and utilize a new approach to multithreaded computer performance. The code-named Zambezi processors based on Bulldozer micro-architecture with four, six or eight cores will belong to FX-series and will be sold under AMD Vision Black and AMD Vision Ultimate labels.

Zambezi CPUs

• FX-4100 (quad-core CPU)
  
  
• FX-4110 (quad-core CPU)
  
  
• FX-6100 (hexa-core CPU)
  
  
• FX-6110 (hexa-core CPU)
  
  
• FX-8100 (octo-core CPU)
  
  
• FX-8110 (octo-core CPU)
  
  
• FX-8130P (octo-core CPU)
  
  
• FX-8150 (octo-core CPU)

There will be three versions of AMD 9-series North Bridges that will be slightly different from each other:

• AMD 990FX - supports two PCIe 2.0 x16 slots (configurable as four PCIe 2.0 x16), six PCIe 2.0 x1 slots, one PCIe 2.0 x4 slot, to be paired with SB950 I/O controller
• AMD 990X - supports one PCIe 2.0 x16 slots (configurable as two PCIe 2.0 x8), six PCIe 2.0 x1 slots
• AMD 970 - supports one PCIe 2.0 x16 slot, to be paired with SB950 and SB920 I/O controllers

AMD 9-series south bridge chips will support the following:

• AMD SB950 - four PCIe 2.0 x1 slots, 14 USB 2.0 controllers, PCI bus, six Serial ATA-600 connectors with RAID 0, 1, 5, 10 support
• AMD SB920 - two PCIe 2.0 x1 slots, 14 USB 2.0 controllers, PCI bus, six Serial ATA-600 connectors with RAID 0, 1, 10 support

[Ranma 1/2]

sviđa mi se ovaj AMDov koncept triju kategorija procesora. zapravo je pomak paradigme dosadašnjih Sempron-Athlon-Phenom(Thuban) procesora. Zacate možda nije direktno usporediv sa jednim Sempromom pošto mu je namjena drugačija ali mislim da na osnovnim specifikacijama i performansama dođe na isto, čak možda i bolje jer je manji format čitave kante.

[kasko]

Svugdje se spominje samo x86 aplikacije u vezi tih procesora! Imaju li oni podršku za x64 OS i aplikacije, tj. da li onda iskorištavaju sav potencijal koji imaju?

Lijepo su ih rangirali, jesu li svi ti procesori napravljeni na jedinstvenome socketu?

Ako je onda odlično radiš što želiš po pitanju ploče, ako će sockete mijenjat po AMD E Series APUs, AMD A Series APUs, AMD E Series APUs, AMD Vision Black i AMD Vision Ultimate kategorijama, to mi već sad smrdi.

[pinkskin]

Autor kasko

Svugdje se spominje samo x86 aplikacije u vezi tih procesora! Imaju li oni podršku za x64 OS i aplikacije, tj. da li onda iskorištavaju sav potencijal koji imaju?

Naravno da podržavaju.

[McG]

Autor kasko

Svugdje se spominje samo x86 aplikacije u vezi tih procesora! Imaju li oni podršku za x64 OS i aplikacije, tj. da li onda iskorištavaju sav potencijal koji imaju?

To je x86 arhitektura koja je prisutna "od stoljeća sedmog" i poslužila je kao temelj za sve današnje moderne procesore.

Autor kasko

Lijepo su ih rangirali, jesu li svi ti procesori napravljeni na jedinstvenome socketu?

Svi ti Bulldozer procesori koriste novi AM3+ socket, pa nisu (ovi u AMD-u) ludi da izmisle toplu vodu i jedno tri-četiri nova socketa za svaki tip procesora.
Bobcat modeli su pak integrirani na samu ploču, pa nema govora o mijenjanju socketa ili zasebnoj kupnji tih procesora.

[Dottore]

gledam i nema podrške za USB 3.0??

[McG]

Ima podrška za sve - AMD Bulldozer series 9 chipset detailed.

[Dottore]

Ako sam dobro razumio, svi chipseti 9xx imat će podršku?

btw. javi mi na e-mail

[McG]

Ne znam, možda slože ko i Hudson chipsete za Bobcat arhitekturu i Llano APU, pa jedna verzija ima USB 3.0, dok druga nudi ogroman broj USB 2.0 konektora.
Treba pričekati CeBIT, pa da se izjasne kaj točno namjeravaju, tj. kaj budu ponudili u konačnim proizvodima.

[Prcko Prcić]

Ima li netko ideju koje će snage biti novi bulldozeri? Hoće li preuzeti primat nad Intelom ili rade opet neki budget segment procesora?

[McG]

Budžet ne budu, jer za to imaju Bobcat i Llano modele, a Bulldozer arhitektura nije ko dosadašnje krpanje postojeće K8 arhitekture na K10.
Teško da bude Bulldozer bolji od Intelovih aktualnih Sandy Bridge i nadolazećih, Sandy Bridge E i Ivy Bridge modela, ali u rangu ili eventualno malo slabiji bi mogli biti.

[Albert Wesker]

racunas,i5 2500K kosta 1600 kn a kad dode Bulldozer skines 200-300 kn sa i5 2500K i eto ti cijene Bulldozer quada(relativno six corea,mozda)mozemo mi nagadat i pjevat borbene ali nema pravih podataka do CEBIT-a koji se odrzava 01.03.2011


neki kazu da bulldozeri dolaze u 4 mjesecu,neki kazu u 6. mjesecu a neki kazu da ga nece biti do 2012 tako da ono,necu vjerovat nicemu do sluzbenih informacija.

[McG]

Pa bar službenih informacija imaš kolko te volja: Bulldozer Blog i AMD at the ISSCC 2011.
Dok s druge strane Intel već ima spremne 22nm Ivy Bridge procesore i planira ih demonstrirati na ovogodišnjem Computexu.

[Prcko Prcić]

ovo mi se cini zanimljivo:

In terms of overall performance, a Bulldozer based core should be able to outperform a similarly clocked Intel processor featuring the same number of threads when being fully utilized. Unfortunately for AMD, very few workloads will max out a modern multi-core processor. Intel should have a slight advantage in single threaded/lightly threaded applications. AMD does look to offset that advantage by offering higher clocked processors positioned against the slower clocked Intel units. This could mean that a quad core i7 running at 3.2 GHz would be the price basis for a 4 module Bulldozer running at 3.5 GHz.

[hooligan.no1]

Source: Original (DE)

Source: Translated EN

"" The boards dont use the new AMD 990FX motherboard chip, but already available chips from the 8-series (890FX, 890GX, 880G and 870).
In addition should older Socket AM3 boards with 8-chip, which are already in use, support Bulldozer CPUs with an BIOS update. AMD told us, however, that AM3 boards, opposed to coming boards with S