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Staro 27.08.2024., 13:29   #1
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Konstantno nasumično gašenje i paljenje

Imam stariju konfiguraciju (i5 2500k, 16Gb Ram, AS Rock B75 Pro 3, GTX 1050Ti, Win 10) i jednostavno ne znam više u čemu je problem...
Računalo se konstantno samo od sebe ugasi i odmah za sekundu, dvije upali i boota. Moram napomenuti da nekad radi po 10ak minuta normalno i onda se krene događati opisano.
Mislio sam da je do napajanja, kupio novo i tada se računalo nije gasilo, već je stalno bacalo BSOD u Win 10 nakon par minuta rada. Shvatio sam da nije napajanje i vratio isto u trgovinu.
Kupio sam novu matičnu, sve ispočetka spojio, zamijenio termalnu pastu i opet isto.
S memorijom sam napravio sve živo - mijenjao keks po keks i u svim kombinacijama problem je ostao. Odvrtioi sam i bezbroj MemTestova kroz Windowse navodno je sve ok.
Ponestaje mi ideja...
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Staro 27.08.2024., 14:18   #2
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Jeli konfa u kućištu? Ako je za početak pogledati standoffe dali je koji di nebi trebao biti.
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Staro 27.08.2024., 14:27   #3
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Izvadi GTX 1050Ti pa testiraj na integrusi.
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Staro 27.08.2024., 14:49   #4
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Jeli konfa u kućištu? Ako je za početak pogledati standoffe dali je koji di nebi trebao biti.
Da, konfiguracija je u kučištu. Nemoj se ljutiti, ali ne znam točno značenje pojma standoff pe te molim da pojasniš. Uglavnom, googlao sam standoff i našao jedno značenje (prostor između matične i kučišta) i s tim je sve ok tj. matična dobro stoji u kučištu.

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Izvadi GTX 1050Ti pa testiraj na integrusi.
Izvadio sam grafičku van iz kučišta i bez obzira na to problem ostaje. Integriranu grafičku, koliko znam, nemam.

Zadnje izmijenjeno od: domy_os. 29.08.2024. u 18:55. Razlog: spojeni postovi
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Staro 27.08.2024., 14:57   #5
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Da, konfiguracija je u kučištu. Nemoj se ljutiti, ali ne znam točno značenje pojma standoff pe te molim da pojasniš. Uglavnom, googlao sam standoff i našao jedno značenje (prostor između matične i kučišta) i s tim je sve ok tj. matična dobro stoji u kučištu.

Da to je to .
Iako matična dobro stoji netko zna greškom staviti koji viška tamo di nebi smio doći tako da pogledaj dali je svaki na svom mjestu.
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Staro 27.08.2024., 15:04   #6
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Nemoj se ljutiti, ali ne znam točno značenje pojma standoff pe te molim da pojasniš.
nemoj se ti sad ljutiti ali kako si kupio novu matičnu, sve ispočetka spojio i zamijenio bez da znaš za standoff, možda stvarno je u tome problem, jer ako si sve zamjenio, nema više šta bit osim takve neke gluposti
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Staro 27.08.2024., 15:21   #7
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Izvadio sam grafičku van iz kučišta i bez obzira na to problem ostaje. Integriranu grafičku, koliko znam, nemam.
Probao sa nekom drugom grafickom?

Kako nemas kad imas i5 2500K koji ima integriranu grafiku. Jel moguce da ne vidis sve one silne prikljucke na maticnoj ploci a na koje mozes spojiti monitor?

VGA, DVI i HDMI - sve to imas na svojoj maticnoj i tu nisi probao spajat svoj monitor?
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Staro 27.08.2024., 17:30   #8
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Probao sa nekom drugom grafickom?

Kako nemas kad imas i5 2500K koji ima integriranu grafiku. Jel moguce da ne vidis sve one silne prikljucke na maticnoj ploci a na koje mozes spojiti monitor?

VGA, DVI i HDMI - sve to imas na svojoj maticnoj i tu nisi probao spajat svoj monitor?
Maknuo grafičku, pokušao preko integrirane - ništa. Konstantno gašenje i ponovno paljenje i tako unedogled.
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Staro 27.08.2024., 17:36   #9
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Malo čudno ovo oko BSOD...

Ajde za probu s MBO odštekaj kabele za paljenje i reset pa upali ručno davanjem kontakta.
Začudio bi se koliko puta se dogodi da prekidač za paljenje na kućištu bude neispravan i povremeno ili stalno u spoju
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Staro 27.08.2024., 23:36   #10
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Dodatno na ovo što kaže shadow, meni se dogodilo jednom (i nikad više neće, majčicu mu) da su mi prednji USB portovi radili kratki spoj. Iako ovo što kod tebe komp radi ponekad i po deset minuta se baš ne uklapa u priču s kratkim spojem. Jedino ako nije neki labavi kratki spoj pa da gubi kontakt.

Kako bilo, ako imaš prednje USB portove na kućištu odspoji ih s matične. Oni koriste one malo veće konektore, ne možeš ih promašiti.

Još jedna ideja, jednom mi se skoro dogodilo: onaj limić koji se montira sa stražnje strane, ako ne paziš što radiš prilikom montaže (a naročito ako imaš naviku obilato psovati dok slažeš računalo u kasnim večernjim satima dok si umoran ko pas) neki od jezičaca može upasti u port. Kažem, skoro mi se dogodilo.
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Staro 29.08.2024., 17:33   #11
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Staro 02.09.2024., 02:36   #12
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Idi sistemom eliminacije, pokreni pc prvo samo sa najosnovnijim komponentama, znaci bez ikakvih periferija i elemenata sa kucista.
Ako sumljas na prekidac paljenja ukljuci reset na mjesto paljenja i pokusaj ga upaliti preko toga (postoji i opcija da se sa zicom ili metalom spoje na momenat pinovi za paljenje, ali treba biti precizan.)
Iza toga ajde na provjeru RAM plocica sa raznim izmjenama po slotovima a nakon toga mozes skinuti procesor i opet ga staviti natrag...provjeri da pinovi na socketu su neiskrivljeni i da nemaju nikakvu prašinu ili dlake na sebi.
Ako i tada ne radi ond nađi neki 2gen procesor i eliminaraj dalje...isprovaj skinuti cmos bateriju na par minuta i pritom stisnuti prekidac paljenja na kucistu da se kondezatori potpuno isprazne.
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a zasto nebi spoji sve samo van kucista
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tako bar eliminiras ako je neki drekec sa kucistem
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Imam stariju konfiguraciju (i5 2500k, 16Gb Ram, AS Rock B75 Pro 3, GTX 1050Ti, Win 10) i jednostavno ne znam više u čemu je problem...

Računalo se konstantno samo od sebe ugasi i odmah za sekundu, dvije upali i boota. Moram napomenuti da nekad radi po 10ak minuta normalno i onda se krene događati opisano.

Mislio sam da je do napajanja, kupio novo i tada se računalo nije gasilo, već je stalno bacalo BSOD u Win 10 nakon par minuta rada. Shvatio sam da nije napajanje i vratio isto u trgovinu.

Kupio sam novu matičnu, sve ispočetka spojio, zamijenio termalnu pastu i opet isto.

S memorijom sam napravio sve živo - mijenjao keks po keks i u svim kombinacijama problem je ostao. Odvrtioi sam i bezbroj MemTestova kroz Windowse navodno je sve ok.

Ponestaje mi ideja...
Vjerovatno su tipke za Pali/Gasi i/ili Reset krepale.
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tip se javio zadnji put prije 10 dana, mislim da možemo zaključiti da je riješio problem ili spalio računalo
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