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Staro 26.09.2024., 11:46   #3511
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Ja sam ovaj navedeni, koji je u najnezgodnijoj poziciji od svih drugih ostalih navedenih znaci ukratko, da svakako podignem pismo?



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Staro 26.09.2024., 11:48   #3512
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Ja sam ovaj navedeni, koji je u najnezgodnijoj poziciji od svih drugih ostalih navedenih znaci ukratko, da svakako podignem pismo?
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Staro 26.09.2024., 14:18   #3513
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Generalno ta razna pismena, ako ti ih ne mogu uručiti, objave ih na oglasnoj ploči suda i nakon 15 dana se smatra da si obaviješten. To je lijepa naša nama dala.
Ne, svakako je bolje da se dogovoris s postarom i da napise kako si preminuo.

PS stavlja se i na elektronicku oglasni plocu, dovoljno je da upises svoj OIB na stranicama suda pa ako ti nije dostavljeno, tamo ces pronaci dokumente.
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Staro 26.09.2024., 14:25   #3514
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Ne, svakako je bolje da se dogovoris s postarom i da napise kako si preminuo.



PS stavlja se i na elektronicku oglasni plocu, dovoljno je da upises svoj OIB na stranicama suda pa ako ti nije dostavljeno, tamo ces pronaci dokumente.
Nećeš nuzno pronaći, jer nakon proteka roka objave od 8 ili 15 dana nestaju sa oglasne ploče.

Ali ako imaš e građanin, dobijes sve obavijesti na e mail

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Staro 26.09.2024., 14:27   #3515
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Nećeš nuzno pronaći, jer nakon proteka roka objave od 8 ili 15 dana nestaju sa oglasne ploče.
Pa nakon sto prodje rok objave i *skinu* se s oglasne ploce... neces je pronaci niti na oglasnoj ploci... pa shodno tome niti na elektronickoj oglasnoj ploci... jer je prosao rok... pa je skinuto. Nije bas neka znanstvena fantastika.
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Staro 26.09.2024., 20:19   #3516
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Ili u Sportskim novostima što se nama dogodilo...
Daj elaboriraj ovo malo, molim te.
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Staro 26.09.2024., 22:50   #3517
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Ako misli slati disketom, kako piše, onda nije ni čudo da je format nečitljiv
Sad opet gledam u ePrekršaj i Kutak za vozače, kaže nema kazni i 0 bodova. Tko je tu lud?

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Daj elaboriraj ovo malo, molim te.
Obavijest o oduzimanju zemlje odnosno izvlašćivanju smo dobili u Sportskim novostima. Imam negdje fotku, sad šljivovica djeluje i ne mogu kopati po papirima...
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Staro 26.09.2024., 23:10   #3518
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Bit će da čitaju forum pa im je bilo neugodno. A možda je i do šljivovice.
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Staro 15.10.2024., 21:08   #3519
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Ovršna saga se nastavlja, imam jednu nedoumicu: u slučaja primanja obavijesti o prijedlogu za ovrhu (koja se dobiva, ako se dobije, običnom poštom) JB daje budućem ovršeniku 15 dana da podmiri svoje obaveze prema ovrhovoditelju "na način i u iznosu kako je to naznačeno u prijedlogu za ovrhu".

Je li taj naznačeni iznos samo potraživanje na koje se ovrha odnosi ili to uključuje i troškove?
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Staro 16.10.2024., 01:04   #3520
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Idu i troškovi ovrhe, njih prvo skinu, vrate ovrhovoditelju i onda ide naplata duga, ako ima sredstava.
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Nisu slomili u kratko vrijeme. Slamali su godinama, desetljećima pa i stoljećima. Svaka odgledana epizoda Big Brothera, svaki dečko koji ne zna niti promijeniti žarulju, a kamoli uzeti sjekiru i pocijepati drva, svaka cura koja misli da je briga za vlastitu obitelj robija, ali rad za par tisuća kuna u korporaciji 12 sati dnevno blagodat, svako promicanje terora političke korektnosti, svaka podrška promociji svih oblika poremećenosti… Sve to nas je dovelo do ovdje. Korona je samo zakucavanje lopte u gol nakon što je obrana već izigrana i golman odletio u prazno.




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Je li taj naznačeni iznos samo potraživanje na koje se ovrha odnosi ili to uključuje i troškove?
To ti sve pise u prijedlogu za ovrhu
Sve stavke su ti tocno tarifirane, koliko sta kome ide itd...

Neprimanje obavijesti ti samo moze prouzrociti jos vece troskove, primis i procitas pa se zalis/osporavas ovrhu ili platis...
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Samo što žalba ne odgađa izvršenje...
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Nisu slomili u kratko vrijeme. Slamali su godinama, desetljećima pa i stoljećima. Svaka odgledana epizoda Big Brothera, svaki dečko koji ne zna niti promijeniti žarulju, a kamoli uzeti sjekiru i pocijepati drva, svaka cura koja misli da je briga za vlastitu obitelj robija, ali rad za par tisuća kuna u korporaciji 12 sati dnevno blagodat, svako promicanje terora političke korektnosti, svaka podrška promociji svih oblika poremećenosti… Sve to nas je dovelo do ovdje. Korona je samo zakucavanje lopte u gol nakon što je obrana već izigrana i golman odletio u prazno.




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Samo što žalba ne odgađa izvršenje...

Žalba protiv rješenja o ovrsi odgađa izvršenje.
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To izgleda ide po partiji... Kad sam ja bio ovršen, žalba nije odgađaja izvršenje, maznulo mi lovu. Kad ja sad drugog ovršavam, dobivam lovu iako se ovaj žalio.
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Nisu slomili u kratko vrijeme. Slamali su godinama, desetljećima pa i stoljećima. Svaka odgledana epizoda Big Brothera, svaki dečko koji ne zna niti promijeniti žarulju, a kamoli uzeti sjekiru i pocijepati drva, svaka cura koja misli da je briga za vlastitu obitelj robija, ali rad za par tisuća kuna u korporaciji 12 sati dnevno blagodat, svako promicanje terora političke korektnosti, svaka podrška promociji svih oblika poremećenosti… Sve to nas je dovelo do ovdje. Korona je samo zakucavanje lopte u gol nakon što je obrana već izigrana i golman odletio u prazno.




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Ne znam gdje napisati valjda jedan od najvecih apsurda kojih sam dozivio ikad u mom mladom zivotu.

Upravo sam pokusao produziti moju vozacku u DE - B kategoriju i to nazalost izgleda necu moci napraviti jer sam polozio u New Jerseyu 2014 i prepisao u Osijeku - oznaka pise na vozackoj tako su i skuzili o cemu se radi.

A1,A2,A sa svim testovima i voznjom je odradena u HR 2007.

Od tada sam odvozio sigurno 200-300k na tri kontinenta - ukljucujuci Australiju na drugoj strani , ovdje odvozio dobrih 50-60k - mogu vidjeti da imam auto koji je na meni osiguran, sa kilometrima koje saljem svake godine osiguranju na uvid.

I sad mi je nevjerojatno da cu opet morati na vozacki ispit, tj nadam se samo poloziti test i voznju bez sati voznje.

Ima li netko slicno iskustvo ili savjet? Zena je sad mijenjala prezime pa se je odjavila iz DE i prijavila u hr da dobije nove dokumente i sad joj vrijedi vozacka 10 godina.

U hr ne mogu polagati jer moram tamo biti prijavljen najmanje 6 mjeseci - to sam provjerio s HAKOM.

Mislite li da ce barem prihvatiti ove propise koji su polozeni u HR vezano za A kategoriju?

Hvala unaprijed.
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Staro 16.10.2024., 13:09   #3526
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Od sveg što si napisao…nisi najbitnije. Jel imaš HR vozačku i pokušavaš je produžiti u Njemačkoj. Gdje?

Van HR sve rješavaš s ambasadom ako imaš HR državljanstvo. Pitaj njih za pomoć i savjet, a ne forum. Imaš i tu više informacija

https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizen...ndexamp_hr.htm

Ne znam za Njemačku, ali u UK samo pošaljem HR vozačku pred istekom valjanosti u njihov HAK (DVLA) i dobijem UK vozačku nazad.
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Imas (ne)srecu da NJ spada u State koji nije na "sporazumnoj" listi sa Njemackom i moras polagati vozacki ispit iznova, kao da nikad nisi imao vozacku.

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Nije to nikakav apsurd nego standardna praksa u puno zemalja sto i treba biti. Usporedi samo kako vozacki ispit izgleda u Njemackoj i recimo u NJ. USA? Nepotrebno dalje komentirati.

Sto se tice A kategorije i propisa, to se da prepisati i *mozda* ti priznaju propise ali ne gine ti 2k+ € za B kat.

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Od sveg što si napisao…nisi najbitnije. Jel imaš HR vozačku i pokušavaš je produžiti u Njemačkoj. Gdje?

Van HR sve rješavaš s ambasadom ako imaš HR državljanstvo. Pitaj njih za pomoć i savjet, a ne forum. Imaš i tu više informacija

https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizen...ndexamp_hr.htm

Ne znam za Njemačku, ali u UK samo pošaljem HR vozačku pred istekom valjanosti u njihov HAK (DVLA) i dobijem UK vozačku nazad.
Imam HR vozacku sa kategorijama A1,A,B.


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Imas (ne)srecu da NJ spada u State koji nije na "sporazumnoj" listi sa Njemackom i moras polagati vozacki ispit iznova, kao da nikad nisi imao vozacku.

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Nije to nikakav apsurd nego standardna praksa u puno zemalja sto i treba biti. Usporedi samo kako vozacki ispit izgleda u Njemackoj i recimo u NJ. USA? Nepotrebno dalje komentirati.

Sto se tice A kategorije i propisa, to se da prepisati i *mozda* ti priznaju propise ali ne gine ti 2k+ € za B kat.

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Da razumijem ja da sam dobio vozacku jucer u NJ i dosao ju danas prepisati u njemacku?! Ja imam HR vozacku 10 godina haha


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Ne jebe ti to njemce. To sto je Hrvatska priznala polaganje u USA ne znaci da Njemci hoce. Njih interesira gdje si polozio i to je to. Jebi ga.

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Ne jebe ti to njemce. To sto je Hrvatska priznala polaganje u USA ne znaci da Njemci hoce. Njih interesira gdje si polozio i to je to. Jebi ga.

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Pa bila ti je važeća jer si imao HR dozvolu koju priznaju.

A auto i osiguranje možeš imati i bez vozačke, samo ga nesmiješ voziti.
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To ti sve pise u prijedlogu za ovrhu
Sve stavke su ti tocno tarifirane, koliko sta kome ide itd...

Neprimanje obavijesti ti samo moze prouzrociti jos vece troskove, primis i procitas pa se zalis/osporavas ovrhu ili platis...
U prijedlogu su navedeni svi troškovi. Iz toga što mogu pročitati, troškovi plaćanja po obavijesti ili nakon dobivanja ovrhe su isti. I upravo zato mi nije jasno čemu onda služi obavijest. Logično bi bilo (kad je zakon već tako predvidio, slanje te obavijesti prije izrade rješenja) da po obavijesti podmiruješ dug kao da ništa nije bilo, čime ti oni daju tu zadnju priliku da podmiriš dug. "Logično".


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Samo što žalba ne odgađa izvršenje...
Ovršno rješenje se može napasti samo žalbom. I to onda mora biti nekakva formalna greška, nisam prokljuvio koji bi to bili primjeri neispravnih ovršnih rješenja.

Protiv dokumenata na kojim je temljeno ovršno rješenje se može predati samo prigovor. Prigovor šalješ bilježniku u tri primjerka koji onda potom ide na sud i pa onda oni stavljaju ovhu van snage za to vrijeme koje traje "proces".

Kasnije, kada dobiješ presudu (u pravilu protiv sebe) ovrhovoditelj te može ovršiti ali i ne mora. Ovisno o ishodu eventualnih žalbi na drugostupanjskom, mogli bi se naći u situaciji da su oni tebi onda dužni vratiti ovršeno i kamate na to kao i troškove.
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Staro 16.10.2024., 20:57   #3533
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Nije bilo formalnih opomena, ali je to i nebitno. Sve skupa je to moja greška i dug nije sporan.

Predmet je tekao ovako nekako:
12.06. JB dobiva prijedlog za ovrhu od odvjetnika
12.06. JB šalje obavijest običnom poštom (koju HP meni nikada nije isporučio)
12.07. JB izrađuje rješenje i šalje preporučeno
07.08. rješenje se vraća JB bez da ga je HP meni uopće i pokušao isporučiti. Nisu ni obavijest ostavili, ništa.
09.09. JB ponovno šalje rješenje preporučeno
08.10. ja nalazim obavijest od HP o pokušaju uručenja na dan RANIJE. Dan prije ne samo da mi nisu pokušali uručiti, nego mi nisu niti obavijesti ostavili.

Dakle, JB je odradio sve po slovu zakona. HP je odradio katastrofalan posao.

Ono što mene interesira: da sam primio tu obavijest prije izrade rješenja, bi li mi troškovi bili isti ili manji ukoliko bih platio prije izrade rješenja? Troškovi u prijedlogu su: sastavljanje prijedloga + predujam naknade JB + ostatak naknade + trošak daljnjih dostava.

Dakle, koja je onda svrha te obavijesti?
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Kasnije, kada dobiješ presudu (u pravilu protiv sebe) ovrhovoditelj te može ovršiti ali i ne mora. Ovisno o ishodu eventualnih žalbi na drugostupanjskom, mogli bi se naći u situaciji da su oni tebi onda dužni vratiti ovršeno i kamate na to kao i troškove.
Svašta si ti ovdje nadrobio.
Da bi te netko mogao ovršiti prvostupanjska presuda biti pravomoćna i ovršna.
Dakle, protiv prvostupanjske presude ne smije biti uložena žalba ili žalba mora biti odbijena.
Nije moguće da te ovrhovoditelj ovrši ako je uložena žalba na prvostupanjsku odluku.
Prema tome, ako si ovršen ili si uložio žalbu pa je odbiiena, ili nisi uložio žalbu.
Što znači da se ne mozes naći u situaciji da povodom odluke drugostupanjskog suda ti ovršavaš ovrhovoditelja jer te ovrhovoditelj nije mogao ni ovršiti jer je žalba uložena, a to spriječava izdavanje klauzula pravomoćnosti i ovršnosti.





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Svašta si ti ovdje nadrobio.
Mislim da ga ti ovdje drobiš malo više od mene, cijenjeni kolega.

> Da bi te netko mogao ovršiti prvostupanjska presuda biti pravomoćna i ovršna.

Ja sam napisao nešto suprotno tome?

> Nije moguće da te ovrhovoditelj ovrši ako je uložena žalba na prvostupanjsku odluku.

A kojim se to rješenjem, nakon presude prvostupanjskog suda koje je vratilo ovrhu na snagu, odgađa izvršenje ovrhe povodom ulaganja žalbe?

> Što znači da se ne mozes naći u situaciji da povodom odluke drugostupanjskog suda ti ovršavaš ovrhovoditelja jer te ovrhovoditelj nije mogao ni ovršiti jer je žalba uložena, a to spriječava izdavanje klauzula pravomoćnosti i ovršnosti.

Jedno je sudska praksa, drugo je propis. Pravni savjet koji sam dobio kada sam se našao u nedoumici po ovom pitanju nakon dobivanja presude (i gubljenja spora) je da "mogu i ne moraju ovršiti". Moguće da ti znaš bolje od fiškala, ne znam.
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Ono što mene interesira: da sam primio tu obavijest prije izrade rješenja, bi li mi troškovi bili isti ili manji ukoliko bih platio prije izrade rješenja?
troškovi bi ti bili neznatno manji budući da se zadnjih godina smanjili ovršni troškovi općenito (ne bi imo ovaj ostatak naknade)

svrha te obavijesti je da nema svrhu

propisano zakonom pa eto, trošak se ne razlikuje puno, isti kurec
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Baš ću sutra nazvat gopođu JB, pa kada ju već plaćam neka me educira.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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