Vijesti i novosti o Intel procesorima i čipsetima

[Dr. Strange]

Autor Disco

Izgleda da Intel sprema strelu za AMD...ali tek za '24 H2, do tada tko živ, tko mrtav:

Lijepo ih je stisnuo AMD, nema više skylake pospane ere, sad planiraju ići do maksimuma .

[The Exiled]

Quad-core Lunar Lake u 2024./2025. i općenito mobilne arhitekture pripasane za desktop? OK, valjda bude nekaj od toga prošlo po planu i programu.

[Odinarius]

Intel je vječno perspektivan!

[demetrius]

https://wccftech.com/intel-raptor-la...top-cpu-rumor/

useless refresh,This family will be based on a slightly optimized 10ESF node, allowing the blue team to squeeze 100 or 200 MHz more out of the chips,100-200 mhz bolje ništa.

[Black mustang]

Pozdrav svima,

Ako netko ima, molimo bih nekoliko informacija za 13th Gen Intel.

Slazem novi komp za 4k video i foto editing ( Premiere Pro, DaVinci, Lightroom i Photoshop ). Zadnje 3 godine sam na AMD 3900X (cim su izasli ) i moram priznati da osim nekih uobicajnih "Early Adopters" musica, nisam imao niti jednog problema i da sve odlicno radi.

Medutim kako svake 3-4 godine mjenjam komp, gledam ove nove INTEL/AMD procesore i cini mi se da nikad nije bilo teze za izabrati.
Na Youtube kanalima i Puget systems stranici svi vise preferiraju Intel za stvari koje ja koristim. I7 13700k mi se najvise cini kao solidan izbor performansi i cijene.

Svi isticu kako I9 i I7 trose jako puno struje pod max opterecenjem, ali nigdje nema nekih testova prosjecne potrosnje struje kod normalnog rada u Premieru, LR i PS-u.
Na samo jednoj starnici sam nasao da pise da u prosjeku novi Intel 13900 i 13700 procesori trose dosta manje struje nego AMD 7950 i 7900 ( max i idle prosjek ).

Zanima me:
1. Ima li netko informacije ili usporedbe prosjecne potrosnje izmedu Intela i AMD-a u gore navedenim aplikacijama
2. Ima li netko tko koristi novi 13700k ili 13900k - kakva je stabilnost cijelog Windows sistema i rad?
3. Hoce li Noctua NH-D15 biti dovoljna ( ne zelim stavljati vodeno hladenje )?

Hvala puno!

[The Exiled]

Core i7-13700K je odličan izbor za namjenu koji spominješ i ne trebaš se zamarati s potrošnjom, koja iako je nešto viša u usporedbi s novim Ryzen 7000 modelima, zapravo je sasvim OK.

Taj procesor je općenito jedan od boljih omjera uloženog i dobivenog novijeg datuma i po pitanju temperature i potrošnje, ne bi trebal imati problema s high-end zračnim coolerom poput Noctue NH-D15.

[Black mustang]

Autor The Exiled

Core i7-13700K je odličan izbor za namjenu koji spominješ i ne trebaš se zamarati s potrošnjom, koja iako je nešto viša u usporedbi s novim Ryzen 7000 modelima, zapravo je sasvim OK.

Taj procesor je općenito jedan od boljih omjera uloženog i dobivenog novijeg datuma i po pitanju temperature i potrošnje, ne bi trebal imati problema s high-end zračnim coolerom poput Noctue NH-D15.

Hvala,

I 13900K mi ima premalu razliku u performansama kod rada i radije cu te novce ulozit u extra M.2 prostora.

[The Exiled]

Intel Foundry Services Chief Steps Down

Izvor: The Register i Tom's Hardware

TSMC founder confirms Arizona 3nm production plans

Izvor: Tom's Hardware

[demetrius]

https://wccftech.com/intel-13th-gen-...-up-to-725-us/

13400 330$,kod nas 2600-2700 neisplativo,ili 5600x,5700x,5800x ili 12400 ili 12600k.

[BusMaster]

Autor demetrius

https://wccftech.com/intel-13th-gen-...-up-to-725-us/
13400 330$,kod nas 2600-2700 neisplativo,ili 5600x,5700x,5800x ili 12400 ili 12600k.

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To je u Kanadskim dolarima, u USD=245$... 13400F je još povoljniji.. 218$ i logičan izbor jer je IGP ionako loš za bilo što suvislo osim za uredske programe i osnovni rad.

[Exy]

Autor demetrius

https://wccftech.com/intel-13th-gen-...-up-to-725-us/

13400 330$,kod nas 2600-2700 neisplativo,ili 5600x,5700x,5800x ili 12400 ili 12600k.

Da, to je kanadski dolar kako kolega kaže. Kod nas je sad 13600KF 2.669 kuna tako da ovo mora bit znatno manje.
Ali mene više zanima što im to sad znači da jedan 13400F ima reviziju B0 / C0. Hoće li to na kraju bit raptor lake proc ili alder lake.

[Taproot7]

i ja cekam razvoj situacije oko ovih za novcanik prijateljskih solucija a ako budu prepakirani alder lake odmah idem na 13600k

[BusMaster]

Autor Exy

Da, to je kanadski dolar kako kolega kaže. Kod nas je sad 13600KF 2.669 kuna tako da ovo mora bit znatno manje.
Ali mene više zanima što im to sad znači da jedan 13400F ima reviziju B0 / C0. Hoće li to na kraju bit raptor lake proc ili alder lake.

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Nastavno na tvoj post, moguće je da 13400F i 13400 imaju Raptor Cove P-jezgre, iako u ovoj Gigabyte tabeli navode jedan i drugi steping.. možda zato što su testirali engineering samplove, i u Cpu-Monkey navode da su testirali samplove a ne finalne verzije.. Neznam kad ti procovi izlaze, u svakom slučaju s obzirom na broj jezgri, manju potrošnju, cijenu i veći takt mogli bi bit dobar izbor jer Zen 4 za sada nema ekvivalenta, osim ako ne spuste cijenu značajno za ove non-x modele.

Linkovi:

https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu-intel_core_i5_13400f

https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compar...core_i5_12400f


https://www.club386.com/here-are-all...ome-surprises/

[BusMaster]

Intel Core i5-13500 Raptor Lake CPU Benchmarks Leak: Over 50% Faster Than 12500

Link: https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i5-1...er-than-12500/

[The Exiled]

Intel CPU Roadmap: 14th Gen Meteor Lake delayed to 2024, Raptor Lake Refresh in Late 2023

The rumors were true, Intel is indeed launching a refreshed Raptor Lake-S processors next year. The socket longevity will be extended for another series. This is what the new leaked Intel roadmap appears to confirm. The slides posted today show desktop and workstation products coming within the next 5 quarters. This includes yet unreleased Sapphire Rapids-WS and updated Raptor Lake-S CPUs. This is the first time we see direct reference to Raptor Lake-S Refresh. It appears that the plan is to launch them in early third quarter of next year, so possibly even sooner than 1 year after the first 13th Gen Core CPUs were announced. According to this roadmap, Intel would be refreshing its entire desktop platform with 125W, 65W and 35W SKUs. What is important to note that the current 13th Gen Core processors with base power lower than 125W were not yet released, but they are due to come out next month. This means we now learn that within 10 months or so there will be an update to those SKUs as well.

Izvor: Interneti

[The Exiled]

Intel may delay construction of German mega-fab to cut costs

Intel is set to delay construction of its planned semiconductor manufacturing plant at Magdeburg in Germany, and is said to be seeking further public subsidies for the project, citing increased costs as one reason for the rethink. The chip giant had intended to start construction work at the Magdeburg site sometime in the first half of 2023 and for production to start in 2027, but those plans are now said to be on hold, according to German media outlet Volksstimme, which published an interview with Intel spokesperson Benjamin Barteder. The report has Barteder saying that a lot has changed since the plans were announced earlier this year, with various issues such as inflation driving up the cost of energy and raw materials, plus the falling demand for semiconductors worldwide. "Geopolitical challenges have become greater, semiconductor demand has declined, and inflation and recession are disrupting the global economy," he is quoted as saying, adding: "This means we cannot yet give a definitive date for the start of construction."

When the plans for a so-called "mega-fab" were disclosed in March, the investment required for building the site was estimated at €17 billion ($18 billion), but Intel now claims the cost has risen to about €20 billion, and the company wants the German government to increase the amount it is offering in subsidies, according to the report. As The Register reported in early summer, Intel was already due to receive €6.8 billion ($7.2 billion) in subsidies from the German government, covering nearly 40 percent of the then expected cost of construction at the Magdeburg site.

The German government had earlier said that it was willing to offer a total of up to €14 billion ($14.85 billion) in state aid to encourage chipmakers to set up shop in the country. It isn't clear whether Intel is merely angling for more funding to help cover the increased cost of building its fabrication plant or whether the company is having second thoughts. If it decides not to proceed, this would be a big blow not just for Germany, but for the wider European Union, which announced plans in February to ramp up European semiconductor design and manufacturing with the European Chips Act. Intel was set to play major part of this.

Izvor: The Register

[The Exiled]

Intel 14th Gen Meteor Lake-S desktop CPUs allegedly canceled, LGA1851 socket may support 3 generations

Izvor: Interneti

[Taproot7]

lucidius i prateci discord cirkus na aparatima

[The Exiled]

Da, ovo se taman poklapa s vijestima otprije dva tjedna koje spominju Raptor Lake refresh uz Meteor Lake odgađanje, samo da bi na kraju ispalo da će ta desktop izdanja vrlo vjerojatno biti kompletno otkazana.

Kak god bilo, Intel i dalje povlači samo njima jasne poteze, pa dok se premišljaju oko novih fabrika u Njemačkoj, jer žele još više državnih poticaja i subvencija, TSMC će ih možda i na tom polju preduhitriti.

[Mladenxy]

Koja luda vremena...ako bude ovako AMD može držat cijene kakve želi i dokle želi. S druge strane Intel kad nije konkurentan ima dobre budget pocesore za malo para. Nakon nove AMD serije bude trenutna 13. gen išla za đabalesku.

[BusMaster]

Intel Core i5-13500 CPU Benchmarked, Faster Than The i5-12600K At A Lower Price

Link: https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i5-1...a-lower-price/

[The Exiled]

Autor Mladenxy

Koja luda vremena...ako bude ovako AMD može držat cijene kakve želi i dokle želi. S druge strane Intel kad nije konkurentan ima dobre budget pocesore za malo para. Nakon nove AMD serije bude trenutna 13. gen išla za đabalesku.

Zen 4 cijene su u slobodnom padu, kaj zbog onog Black Friday sniženja, kaj zbog dolar i euro situacije, tak da se sad 7600X može naći za kakvih ~2.200 kn, 7700X je ~3.200 kn, 7900X ide za ~4.200 kn, a 7950X se može naći za ~5.200 kn. Nije loše kak god se okrene, a nadolazeći obični (non-K) Raptor Lake i Ryzen 7000 (non-X) modeli budu se fino uklopili uz već postojeću Intel i AMD ponudu. Core i5-12600 modeli idu od ~2.200 kn, do ~2.500 kn, pa se novi Core i5-13400, a zapravo prepakirani Core i5-12600K s cijenom od kakvih 2.000 kn lijepo može udomiti na već postojeće B660 DDR4 ploče, jer ove nove B760 DDR4/DDR5 nažalost ne budu ništa pretjerano jeftinije od AMD-ovih B650 koje sad u prosjeku idu za kakvih ~1.500 kn.

Kaj se općenito Intel situacije tiče, problem je kaj šrot firma poput AMD-a od 2017. uredno sve svoje najave provodi u djelo, dok u Intelu i dalje pričaju nekaj kaj samo oni vjeruju, jer stvari idu u svim mogućim smjerovima, samo ne po planu i programu, a i taj plan i program se svako malo mijenjaju iz temelja, tak da ko zna kaj točno budu od svega najavljenog imali u opticaju. U najboljem slučaju kasne. ARC diviziju i njihovog šefa su fino rastavili na sastavne dijelove, ali kunu se da to nema veze s bilo kakvim odgodama i gašenjem desktop GPU modela, mada istovremeno sve GPU resurse preusmjeravaju u enterprise, datacenter i općenito HPC/AI/ML svrhe, jer tu su konkretni nofci i zarada.

Ukoliko se Meteor Lake desktop otkazivanje pokaže istinitim, a izgleda da bi moglo, jer već imaju Raptor Lake refresh u službenim prezentacijama, onda jebiga, Intelovo voCtvo stvarno ne vidi dalje od vlastitog nosa.

[Dr. Strange]

Intel daje previše vremena AMD-u da ispolira Zen 5, Zen 4 je samo evolucija Zen-a 3 pa i dalje vuče neke limite koji se osjete u određenim igrama, no Zen 5 je dizajn rađen od nule i Intelu bi bilo bolje da se ne igra opet kao u vrijeme skylake ere, znamo šta ih je zadesilo 2017 godine.

[piydek]

Ryzen 7xxx X3D vs Raptor Lake situacija će biti, po svemu sudeći, opet neugodna za gledati isto kako je bilo s Ryzen 5xxx vs intel 10/11 generacije. A izgleda po svemu sudeći da Intel više od godine dana neće imati ništa.

[The Exiled]

Intel quietly raises prices for 12th-Gen Alder Lake CPUs, now cost more than 13th-Gen

Intel has raised the pricing of its 12th-gen Alder Lake processors in its online Ark product database, reflecting a 10% increase in pricing for the company's previous-gen desktop PC chips. In some cases, that can be a ~$60 increase in the price for a chip. For now, the company's newer 13th-gen Raptor Lake processors, which come with more cores and drastically faster performance, are actually less expensive than the previous-gen models. However, we expect the Raptor Lake models to also see price hikes soon, perhaps giving AMD a leg up in the pricing department. Intel announced during the first quarter of 2022 that it would increase chip pricing, but didn't share details. The company again reiterated that message back in June during its earnings call in the wake of losing $500 million in the second quarter of 2022 - one of the worst quarters in the company's history. However, Intel again did not specify which products would see price hikes or how much it would raise prices.

Intel launches 16 new 13th-Gen Raptor Lake desktop CPUs: Higher pricing and power consumption

Intel announced 16 new Raptor Lake CPUs spanning its 65W mainstream PC chips and 35W “T-Series” categories today, broadening its roster of 13th-Gen processors that currently dominate our list of Best CPUs for gaming and our CPU benchmark hierarchy. The new chips extend from the Core i3 to high-end Core i9 families and come with more cores and higher frequencies along with higher gen-on-gen pricing, mirroring the price increases we noticed last night with Intel’s 12th-gen chips. They also have significantly increased peak power consumption compared to their predecessors. Most of Intel’s new 13th-gen processors announced today come with the same Raptor Cove architecture as the flagship models that launched last year,*but some of the Core i5 and the lone Core i3 model reportedly come with the same die and architecture used for the 12th-Gen Alder Lake CPUs, albeit bulked up with more generous core counts and/or higher clock rates to enable higher levels of performance.

Izvor: Tom's Hardware

[coconut]

Evo šta sam Intel kaže o novim H, HX, U i P procesorima
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us...ile-brief.html

[spawn]

Stavi malo teksta ovdje, nemoj da klikamo, kao da sam na indexu ili 24sata

[The Exiled]

Intel Officially Launches ‘Sapphire Rapids’ and HPC-optimized Max Series

Izvor: HPCwire

Intel's Sapphire Rapid Finally Here! Feat. Super Micro SYS-221BTDNTR

• Intel Xeon Platinum 8490H "Sapphire Rapids" Performance Benchmarks
  
  
• 4th Gen Intel Xeon Scalable Sapphire Rapids Leaps Forward

If you want the maximum performance per socket, the AMD EPYC 9654 is still the king, but now with an asterisk. Intel has a number of accelerators. Still, after months with the parts and having written now a ~10,000-word essay on the new parts, it feels like the maximum impact of Sapphire Rapids was missed. Intel’s story is one extolling the virtues of acceleration, yet 56% of its SKUs do not have QuickAssist, one of its most useful accelerators, since most servers these days do crypto and compression tasks. Also, Intel has not shown its accelerator roadmap.

Intel’s rental service on chips could face buyer backlash

Izvor: HPCwire

[Sinac]

Intel's Sapphire Rapid Finally Here!


Već vidim kako ćemo u budućnosti svi vaditi mobitele i gledati u bilješke radi li se o Intel ili AMD proizvodu.

Inače, vidim da je big.LITTLE arhitektura s 13. generacijom malo došla do izražaja, vidim da i5 13600K sa svojih 6+8 jezgri i 20 dretvi (ove dretve su jedan tako fakerski naziv da ne znam zašto se tako rijetko koristi ) rastura i procesore koji su i iz jače klase, i stariji Intel i7 i Ryzene 7 i 9.

[Dr. Strange]

Autor Sinac

Intel's Sapphire Rapid Finally Here!


Već vidim kako ćemo u budućnosti svi vaditi mobitele i gledati u bilješke radi li se o Intel ili AMD proizvodu.

Inače, vidim da je big.LITTLE arhitektura s 13. generacijom malo došla do izražaja, vidim da i5 13600K sa svojih 6+8 jezgri i 20 dretvi (ove dretve su jedan tako fakerski naziv da ne znam zašto se tako rijetko koristi ) rastura i procesore koji su i iz jače klase, i stariji Intel i7 i Ryzene 7 i 9.

Radije bih sve big jezgre, u 3d načinu slaganja pa onda neće biti ni potrebe za malim jezgrama koje su tu samo kao polu rješenje dok ne smisle kako upogonit sve velike jezgre i uštedit na prostoru, a uz to će i developere manje bolit glava kad imaš konzistentne jezgre, i potencijalno manje problema za nas ako se nađe neki softver koji ne zna razlikovati jezgre.