Nadolazeći AMD socketi, ploče i procesori

[Omega 3]

Ako su sa zen-om+ uspjeli izvući 3% ipc-a sa samo sitnijim izmjenama na arhitekturi, za očekivat je da će zen 3 donijeti veći napredak u odnosu na zen 2. Izmjene će biti osjetno veće, za početak memorijski kontroler migrirat s 12nm na 7nm+ što će podosta smanjiti dimenzije, potrošnju i osloboditi prostora za npr ugurati još l3 cache i drugih stvari, onda i same jezgre na 7nm+ proizvodni proces koji će biti dosta ispoliraniji, zreliji u odnosu na trenutnog pa možemo očekivat i oko 200 mhz veći takt i 20% više tranzistora, nešto kao prelazak s 14nm na 12nm, vjerojatno i bolje.

[MadBoY]

Tesko da ce IO dio maknuti s 12 nm, jos uvijek su vezani s GF pa im je isplativije raditi IO na 12 nm nego placati penale. Plus sto IO dio ne skalira dobro sa smanjivanjem nodea.

[Manuel Calavera]

A i mislim da im još prostora ne treba, vjerujem da više neće povećavati broj jezgri, no to sam rekao i nakon 8 corea

Neka alternativna rješenja su moguća kod apu-a (već za zen 2) - npr. Da umjesto jednog core čipleta bude gpu, manji I/O die, nekakav hbm2 ili L4 Cache ili nešto...

[Mladenxy]

DDR5 je valjda logična nadogradnja, PCIe 6 koji je najavljen, brijem još više jezgri jer će se TDP još malo smanjiti, bilo bi super kad bi uveli četverokanalnu memoriju u gaming klasu po niskim cijenama

[SlavoS]

Zen3 ti ide na AM4, nema DDR5, PCIe 6,.....

[Manuel Calavera]

Zen4 će vjv biti novi socket, ddr5 i vjv 5nm tsmc negdje 2021. Zen3 postojeći socket i ddr4

[Mladenxy]

Hebi ga onda, nisam pratio. Onda AM5 socket, to bu mi zanimljivo.

[Manuel Calavera]

The AMD Zen 5 core was*confirmed*to be in development by AMD a while ago in their slides during the Zen+ launch. It has once again been confirmed by David Suggs, who’s the chief architect for the AMD Zen 2 and Zen 5 microprocessor cores. AMD has teams within the CPU department who are working on different Zen cores in parallel. David, in particular, has been the Chief architect behind the AMD Zen 2 core which recently made its debut with the*Ryzen 3000 processors*and also, the upcoming Zen 5 cores.

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The Zen 5 core which should launch in between 2022-2023 can be based on a further optimized 5nm process which would allow for significant performance uplifts. Since there are no more “+” within the Zen family (e.g. Zen+), we should expect noticeable upgrades that would further lift IPC along with improved chiplet interconnects. AMD’s Zen 5 core would mark another breakthrough for AMD by the time it launches while their*competition*would still be relying on their in-house 7nm node.

[The Exiled]

AMD 3rd Gen Threadripper Coming This October to Take on Intel's New HEDT Lineup?

AMD is planning to surprise Intel by unveiling its 3rd generation Ryzen Threadripper HEDT (high-end desktop) processor lineup around the same time Intel launches its 10th generation Core "Cascade Lake-X" processor and the "Glacial Falls" HEDT platform, according to sources in the motherboard industry, speaking with DigiTimes. We're fairly sure the sources aren't referring to AMD's 16-core Ryzen 9 3950X processor, because it has already been announced and will be available in September. The 3rd generation Ryzen Threadripper will likely be a derivative of the company's "Rome" multi-chip module, and compatible with existing socket TR4 motherboards with a BIOS update, although a new chipset could also be launched to enable PCI-Express gen 4.0. AMD has the option to deploy up to 64 CPU cores across eight 7 nm "Zen 2" chiplets, while the 12 nm I/O controller die will be likely reconfigured for the HEDT platform with a monolithic 4-channel DDR4 memory interface and 64 PCIe gen 4.0 lanes. It's capable of 8 memory channels on the 2nd generation EPYC.

Izvor: TechPowerUp

[Manuel Calavera]

AMD ‘Flute’ Engineering Sample Spotted in UserBenchmark Database

[Eladio]

škot objasnio .. nije za hejtere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIVjhvDVHpY

[ShebY]

Ajde prestanite, kakve veze ima video o liku koji kenja 25min "Ja nisam htjeo radit više videje o AMD-u al mi moja duhovna zajdnica s discorda pomogla da prebolim krizu identiteta pa ću ipak raditi videje o AMD-u" ima veze s nadolazećim procesorima? HU ima patreona pa nikad nisu izbacilo pola videa na patreona a pola public na yotube, to je dick move. Zajebao je masno i kraj priče, otvorite temu i svaštari za njega i ostavite nas na miru.

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[Gigi1]

Buduci je veliki dio novosti oko arch. na ovoj temi dolazio baš od njega, a dolazit ce i u buducnosti, možda bi ipak trebao malo stati na loptu

[Manuel Calavera]

Slažem se sa Sheby o tome da neki video o tome što će on raditi sa svojim kanalom nema mjesta u ovoj temi.

Da je slučajno tema u videu o nadolazećim cpu/socketima i sl. nebih imao ništa protiv (mada bi nekima i to smetalo). Jer budimo realni i da ispadne netočno većina linkova o nadolazećim stvarima su leakovi, "leakovi" i nagađanja, te naša vlastita trabunjanja. To je ipak on topic.

Za ove ostale stvari su ionko svi supscribeani koga zanima

[Manuel Calavera]

https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-con...0-motherboards


https://wccftech.com/amd-x590-x599-c...rds-asus-leak/


x599 za threadripper razumijem, no ove X590 za AM4 mi ne drže vodu (videocardz iznosi teoriju prema kojoj je kao x570 zamišljen kao bez pci-e 4.0, a x590 sa, no očito nije ispalo tako, dok wccftech iznosi teoriju da je x590 možda neka limitirana serija uz R9 3950x)

[MadBoY]

Koliko znam AMD je imao plan da ima x570 i x590 ali su odustali od tog i sve ugradili u x570. Jedino gdje x590 ima smisla je ako bude imao vise pci-e staza. Ali je moguce da su ove Asus ploce bile samo prototipi prije nego je AMD odbacio x590.

[Tajl3r]

Neznam di bi stavio ali ode babica?
https://wccftech.com/exclusive-lisa-...s-a-successor/

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[MadBoY]

Ekspresno je odgovorila da nema istine u tome. A nadam se da ce ostati jos dugo u AMD-u.

[The Exiled]

AMD EPYC Rome 7742 battles Intel Xeon in benchmarks posted online

If the recent benchmark postings are to be believed, the EPYC 7742 will have 64 cores and 128 threads and, therefore, would likely be the flagship model. The processor allegedly has up to 256MB of cache and comes with 225W. If the leaks are accurate, the 64-core monster will run at a 2.25 GHz base clock and 3.4 GHz boost clock. The deleted posting pitched the EPYC 7742 against AMD's own EPYC 7601 and Intel's existing Xeon Platinum 8280 and Xeon Gold 6138 chips. According to the test notes, the aforementioned processors were tested in both single-socket and dual-socket configurations on the Ubuntu 19.04 operating system with the latest Linux 5.2 kernel. The user also claimed to have applied all mitigations for each processor.

TL;DR - AMD za sutra sprema ubojice fazana.

[ShebY]

Nitko ne prati epyc?

https://twitter.com/VladGalabov/stat...331323392?s=19


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[Gigi1]

AMD's biggest problem is going to be production capacity. Because they are going to sell every single piece of Rome silicon they spin.

Razlog zasto ima lošeg silicija i zašto je nestašica 3900X....sve dobro ode za Rim, Google, Twitter, Microsoft...samo neki od klijenata

[kopija]

So has AMD done the unthinkable? Beaten Intel by such a large margin that there is no contest? For now, based on our preliminary testing, that is the case. The launch of AMD's second generation EPYC processors is nothing short of historic, beating the competition by a large margin in almost every metric: performance, performance per watt and performance per dollar.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14694...pyc-2nd-gen/15