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Staro 30.11.2008., 21:08   #91
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Stvarno se ne sjecam kad sam zadnji put taj TV Out koristio...otkad imam DivX player to mi je potpuno nepotrebno.
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Staro 30.11.2008., 22:10   #92
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Znači, ipak postoji "pravi" DVI izlaz?

Vremenom mislim kupiti kakvu jeftiniju plazmu (Panasonic 37PV8 npr.), a pošto sam sa ovom 4670 dobio i DVI->VGA adapter i DVI->HDMI adapter mislim ovaj komp. što ga sastavljam koristiti istovremeno i kao HTPC i kao primarni, pa bi na jedan izlaz bio spojen ovaj 17" CRT, a na drugi izlaz plazma za gledanje filmova.
Dakle, koji od ova dva DVI izlaza je "glavni"?
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Staro 30.11.2008., 23:24   #93
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ma svejedno ti je, upikni u onaj u koji ti vise odgovara. ja nabacio na oba izlaza dvi-vga adaptere, malo presaltavao, jednako u potpunosti.

kada ti dode vrijeme da se pozabavis tv out-om, onda probavaj.

nebi bilo lose da izneses misljenje i dojmove o kartici.

btw, fallout3, high details, , FPS od 60-tak do 85 koji mislim da je max. uglavnom, jos nije nista naislo da steka od igara. cisto informacije radi ako koga zanima .
i da, quake4 na stvarno mislim max postavkama sljaka 5/5, ne izbacuje me, dakle openGL sljaka bez beda.
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Staro 01.12.2008., 12:26   #94
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Još jedan Bench.
Grafa je clockana na 800/1050 kao i AMD X2 3600+ sa 1900 mhz na 3005 mhz.

1.12.2008 12:17:39 - XP
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX9 1024x768, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: High
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TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 61.23s, Average FPS: 32.66
Min FPS: 13.67 at frame 151, Max FPS: 47.40 at frame 986
Average Tri/Sec: 32247820, Tri/Frame: 987253
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.93
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 53.39s, Average FPS: 37.46
Min FPS: 13.67 at frame 151, Max FPS: 48.72 at frame 994
Average Tri/Sec: 37404500, Tri/Frame: 998583
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.92
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 53.26s, Average FPS: 37.55
Min FPS: 13.67 at frame 151, Max FPS: 48.72 at frame 994
Average Tri/Sec: 37535020, Tri/Frame: 999512
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.92
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
==============================================================

Completed All Tests

<><><><><><><><><><><><><>>--SUMMARY--<<><><><><><><><><><><><><>

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Run #1- DX9 1024x768 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 3750,5

1.12.2008 12:29:44 - XP
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX9 1024x768, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: Medium
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TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 47.22s, Average FPS: 42.35
Min FPS: 27.85 at frame 1965, Max FPS: 59.45 at frame 1672
Average Tri/Sec: 30032508, Tri/Frame: 709133
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.29
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 42.83s, Average FPS: 46.70
Min FPS: 27.00 at frame 1950, Max FPS: 66.49 at frame 67
Average Tri/Sec: 33516096, Tri/Frame: 717700
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.28
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 42.80s, Average FPS: 46.73
Min FPS: 27.00 at frame 1950, Max FPS: 66.49 at frame 67
Average Tri/Sec: 33544300, Tri/Frame: 717828
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.28
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
==============================================================

Completed All Tests

<><><><><><><><><><><><><>>--SUMMARY--<<><><><><><><><><><><><><>

1.12.2008 12:29:44 - XP

Run #1- DX9 1024x768 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: Medium ~~ Overall Average FPS: 4671,5
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Staro 01.12.2008., 12:37   #95
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Let's sum it up. Pop in a Blu-ray disc and the GPU can decode and enhance the movie for you, it'll even send 8 channel sound to your receiver or HD screen. Games wise you cannot ignore the fact that playing most modern games with very high image quality settings at 1280x1024 will not be a problem whatsoever. In fact, most games will play fine at very decent framerates at 1600x1200 as well.

Za tu cijenu izgleda ok,ali opet,toliki hype oko igranja na 1024 rezi,pa čak i priglupe igre kao Crysis,je nepotreban.

Da ne spominjem kako izgleda skalirana slika na LCD wide monitorima u 90% slučajeva.

Mislim da je 1280x1024/medium neki optimum ove kartice.

Makar pored polovnih 3870 sa garancijom,ne bi nikad dao 650kn za to,ako se mislim igrati.

Ili 8800gt,za 50-100kn više.
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Staro 01.12.2008., 12:49   #96
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a što joj nedostaje?

ima ljudi koji tek ponekad vole nešto odigrati (kao npr. ja) i ne trebaju im rezolucije tipa 5438x3742 s osam grafičkih kartica u SLI-u, termoelektranom u kućištu i mamicama koje će sve to sinekima kupiti i plaćati struju.

1024x768 je i više nego dovoljno da čovjek uživa u nekoj igri.
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Staro 01.12.2008., 12:53   #97
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Evo ti 1200x1024. A da bi uzeo 3870 nema šanse. Imao sam ju i znam šta je to.
Ovo je Bench u Crysisu, a ako u Crysisu imaš pkp 25 FPSova onda ćeš druge igrice igrati na high još barem 2 godine.

1.12.2008 12:41:11 - XP
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX9 1280x1024, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: High
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TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 77.62s, Average FPS: 25.77
Min FPS: 14.46 at frame 151, Max FPS: 33.77 at frame 975
Average Tri/Sec: 25368776, Tri/Frame: 984510
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.93
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 68.05s, Average FPS: 29.39
Min FPS: 14.46 at frame 151, Max FPS: 33.95 at frame 984
Average Tri/Sec: 29230914, Tri/Frame: 994610
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.92
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 67.83s, Average FPS: 29.49
Min FPS: 14.46 at frame 151, Max FPS: 34.08 at frame 988
Average Tri/Sec: 29339828, Tri/Frame: 995062
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.92
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
==============================================================

Completed All Tests

<><><><><><><><><><><><><>>--SUMMARY--<<><><><><><><><><><><><><>

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Run #1- DX9 1280x1024 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 2944

1.12.2008 12:54:00 - XP
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX9 1600x1200, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: Medium
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TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 59.89s, Average FPS: 33.40
Min FPS: 26.98 at frame 1943, Max FPS: 44.82 at frame 989
Average Tri/Sec: 25847578, Tri/Frame: 773983
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.18
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 49.58s, Average FPS: 40.34
Min FPS: 26.98 at frame 1943, Max FPS: 44.82 at frame 989
Average Tri/Sec: 31587324, Tri/Frame: 783027
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.17
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 49.48s, Average FPS: 40.42
Min FPS: 26.98 at frame 1943, Max FPS: 44.82 at frame 989
Average Tri/Sec: 31662080, Tri/Frame: 783368
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.17
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
==============================================================

Completed All Tests

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1.12.2008 12:54:00 - XP

Run #1- DX9 1600x1200 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: Medium ~~ Overall Average FPS: 4038
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a što joj nedostaje?

ima ljudi koji tek ponekad vole nešto odigrati (kao npr. ja) i ne trebaju im rezolucije tipa 5438x3742 s osam grafičkih kartica u SLI-u, termoelektranom u kućištu i mamicama koje će sve to sinekima kupiti i plaćati struju.

1024x768 je i više nego dovoljno da čovjek uživa u nekoj igri.
Je,da. U Heroesima 3 i Starcraftu.
Da se razumijemo naigrao sam se na toj rezi,ali u današnje vrijeme to nije više nego dovoljno.To je minimum.

Ruku na srce ovo nije gaymerska kartica,a koliko vidim testove Crysisa jako su mi diskutabilni rezultati,pogotovo ovo 1600x1200 16xAF i 30fps. Ali dobro,ok.

Ne fali joj baš ništa,da košta koliko košta vani. A to je 75$ iliti 400kn max.

Ali kod nas košta 650kn,i zato joj fali da je jeftinija 30%.

Gledam malo po SAD HW trgovinama cijene,pa zato dajem nekakav osvrt na cijenu.


@ AMD Mislim,nhf da se opet stvara uber-hype, a za 650kn koliko košta dobiješ g92 chip koji je duplo jači.
Ne bi ti ovo govorio da se ne prsiš sa igranjem,jer je to value i multimedia kartica a ne gay kartica.

Samo o cijeni se radi,ništa drugo. NHF
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Evo ti reza 1900x1200 na medium detaljima. Ako ti to nije dovoljno da te razuvijeri kupi si nvidiu.

1.12.2008 12:59:18 - XP
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX9 1900x1200, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: Medium
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TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 59.99s, Average FPS: 33.34
Min FPS: 27.20 at frame 1943, Max FPS: 44.49 at frame 985
Average Tri/Sec: 25801494, Tri/Frame: 773934
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.18
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 49.51s, Average FPS: 40.39
Min FPS: 27.20 at frame 1943, Max FPS: 45.13 at frame 1019
Average Tri/Sec: 31582544, Tri/Frame: 781882
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.17
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 49.51s, Average FPS: 40.39
Min FPS: 27.20 at frame 1943, Max FPS: 45.29 at frame 1017
Average Tri/Sec: 31617870, Tri/Frame: 782765
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.17
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
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Run #1- DX9 1900x1200 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: Medium ~~ Overall Average FPS: 4039
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thedream-ja te lijepo molim da prestaneš sa spamarom, te pričaš o kartici koju nisi ni vidio a kamoli igrao te drobiš AMD-jcu koji ima 17" CRT...
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thedream-ja te lijepo molim da prestaneš sa spamarom, te pričaš o kartici koju nisi ni vidio a kamoli igrao te drobiš AMD-jcu koji ima 17" CRT...
A ne. Imam i 19".
Ovi 22" LCDovi su za metrosexsualce. CRT je još uvijek uber tehnologija.

Na 1900x1200, high, više neide, ali koliko para toliko muzike. Ipak je to Low End