AMD Radeon RX 6000 series ("Big" Navi RDNA2)

[BinaryJesus]

S undervoltanjem i downcloakanjem se može puno skinuti taj tdp uz mali gubitak na performansama.

[Igi385]

Prijatelj ima dilemu prilikom kupnje između Xfx Rx 6700 one sa 3 venta ili Sapphire Pulse Rx 6700 Xt.
Savjetovao sam mu Sapphire no na par mjesta sam iščitao da ima coil wine. Osim toga svi ostali komentari i benchmarci su top i sve super.
Pa da pitam vas koji imate tu Sapphire Pulse 6700 xt, imate li i ako da koliko jak/čujan coil whine?
Hvala na feedbacku.
Pozz

[geronimo_2]

koju god da uzmes mozes i nemoras imat coil whine.
ak ides citat npr komentare za kartice na mind-u vidjet ces isto tak da nema koristi razmisljat.
ja bi radije uzeo XFX sa 3 venta. a i cijene su im stalno top na akcijama.
ja sam uzeo MSI 6800 i imam lagano coil whine u nekim slucajevima po load-om. to mi je ok. glavno da nije onaj jako ubitacan i da ga nema u idle-u.

[Igi385]

Ima netko tu:
XFX SPEEDSTER SWFT 309 AMD Radeon™ RX 6700 CORE Gaming

ili baš ovu drugu Sapphire Pulse Rx 6700 xt da napiše kratki review možda tipa kakve su temperature, buka i slično?

[ID2502]

Imam ja Pulsicu....Nemam coil whine....Temperature na stock oko 70c a kad je undervoltam oko 60c...S obzirom da igram sa slušalicama extremno je tiha

[thesaint255]

Frendu uzeo u novi komp 6700xt Pulse i moram reci da me lagano razocarala.

Coil whine je bio katastrofalan i delta izmedu core-a i junkctiona tipa 20C.

Mislio da je frend dobio limuna ali kazu ljudi online da ta ista kartica fakat ima takve temperature i takvo ponasanje.

Ja osobno ne bi uzimao pulsicu 6700xt, ali nemam niti savjet koja verzija bi bila bolja.

[bambi56x]

Mislim da je bitno napomenuti da je Sapphire jedna od firmi koja mijenja dijelove, u ovom slučaju hladnjak na 6700XT Pulse, i novije verzije te kartice su osjetno lakše od prvih verzija, recenzije su naravno sve od prvog modela, i od novijih što sam stavljao ljudima, sve Pulsice imaju izražen coil whine.

[Libertus]

Danas se napokon natjerao probati ohladiti svoju 6600XT na Linuxu. Nisam nikada to radio, ali na kraju se CoreCtrl pokazao noob friendly.
Kućište mi je dosta zatvoreno, pa sam tražio način kako spustiti temperaturu dok klinci igraju, a da se ne gubi puno na performansama.

Na kraju uspio srušiti temperaturu grafičke za skoro 30 stupnjeva, uz gubitak 6% performansi. Pravi test će biti za sljedeći vikend kada klinci odrade 3-4 sata non stop igre pa ćemo vidjeti. Sadašnji rezultati su na temelju 1h igre.

Za Linux ekipu koja bi možda i probala, najbolje su mi se pokazale sljedeće postavke:
GPU: Sapphire Nitro+ 6600 XT
Power limit: 90W (default 130W)
Voltage offset (mV): -60
GPU min MHz i max MHz: default
Memory MHz: default

Superposition benchmark 1080p High
Default score: 12570
Za gore navedene postavke: 11809 (-6,05%)

[OuttaControl]

6800, hdmi na tv, lg c9, zvuk puca po sekundu svakih x, i primjetno krčka

Pokusao sam, instalirati High Definition Drivere
Probao AMD High Definition Drivere iz 2018
Stavit minimalni clock na 1500 ghz
Undervoltat, overclockat,
Promjenit kabel ,
promjenit hdmi port na tvu,
prebacivnje na ARC je marginalno pomoglo cini mi se nije svakih min nego svakih par min

Ovo sto sam probao su neka rijesenja sa amd foruma i reddita, jel ima jos ko ideja?

[bambi56x]

Zvuk preko drugog kabla (3.5mm, optika...) ok ili isto? Ostali driveri svi, čipset itd., u redu? Slične probleme sam uvijek uspio maknit s drugim driverima. Promjena formata izlaznog zvuka možda mijenja nešto? (To je u Playback devices, properties od trenutnih zvučnika, advanced tab)

Probaj vidit što ovo kaže.

[OuttaControl]

E da drugi deviceovi blutut i 3.5mm radi, cak i steamlink i moonlight rade samo tv na hdmi,
Probam veceras taj playback i latency mon

[bambi56x]

Onda je vjerojatno do drivera i/ili kartice, probaj eventualno s nečim drugim na TV što ima HDMI.


Možda i minimum power modove podić? Nekad i to ne bude kak treba. Za procesor je negdje u power planu u control panelu/postavkama, za grafičku je negdje u radeon programu.



Ako ništa, probaj live linux nekaki ili svježe Win, resetirat postavke u uefi/bios itd.

[OuttaControl]

Ma tv je sigurno ok, radio je prije sa 2060 i radi sa firestickom bez problema.

Znaci apsolutno ista konfiguracija sa 2060 i gskill 2400 ramom je radilo sve savrseno a zamjenio sam jedino graficku i ram u corsair vengance 3600. I napajanje iz superflower 550 u RM650

Probam te cakice kad mala lde lec i oslobodi tv od djecijih pjesmica

[Nick7]

Jednostavan test - Linux live CD, i probaj od tamo... onda znas da li je do drivera ili nesto drugo

[OuttaControl]

ovo kaze latency mon, odo ubuntu udrit, a i probat bez wifija.

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CONCLUSION
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Your system seems to be having difficulty handling real-time audio and other tasks. You may experience drop outs, clicks or pops due to buffer underruns. One or more DPC routines that belong to a driver running in your system appear to be executing for too long. At least one detected problem appears to be network related. In case you are using a WLAN adapter, try disabling it to get better results. One problem may be related to power management, disable CPU throttling settings in Control Panel and BIOS setup. Check for BIOS updates. 
LatencyMon has been analyzing your system for  0:06:18  (h:mm:ss) on all processors.


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SYSTEM INFORMATION
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Computer name:                                        VULE2-PC
OS version:                                           Windows 10, 10.0, version 2009, build: 19044 (x64)
Hardware:                                             B550M Pro4, To Be Filled By O.E.M.
BIOS:                                                 AGESA!ComboAM4v2PI 1.2.0.7
CPU:                                                  AuthenticAMD AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 8-Core Processor 
Logical processors:                                   16
Processor groups:                                     1
Processor group size:                                 16
RAM:                                                  32691 MB total


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CPU SPEED
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Reported CPU speed (WMI):                             3401 MHz
Reported CPU speed (registry):                        3394 MHz

Note: reported execution times may be calculated based on a fixed reported CPU speed. Disable variable speed settings like Intel Speed Step and AMD Cool N Quiet in the BIOS setup for more accurate results.


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MEASURED INTERRUPT TO USER PROCESS LATENCIES
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The interrupt to process latency reflects the measured interval that a usermode process needed to respond to a hardware request from the moment the interrupt service routine started execution. This includes the scheduling and execution of a DPC routine, the signaling of an event and the waking up of a usermode thread from an idle wait state in response to that event.

Highest measured interrupt to process latency (µs):   1177.50
Average measured interrupt to process latency (µs):   19.915964

Highest measured interrupt to DPC latency (µs):       1172.90
Average measured interrupt to DPC latency (µs):       2.984144


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 REPORTED ISRs
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Interrupt service routines are routines installed by the OS and device drivers that execute in response to a hardware interrupt signal.

Highest ISR routine execution time (µs):              57.200943
Driver with highest ISR routine execution time:       HDAudBus.sys - High Definition Audio Bus Driver, Microsoft Corporation

Highest reported total ISR routine time (%):          0.005848
Driver with highest ISR total time:                   HDAudBus.sys - High Definition Audio Bus Driver, Microsoft Corporation

Total time spent in ISRs (%)                          0.005850

ISR count (execution time <250 µs):                   31539
ISR count (execution time 250-500 µs):                0
ISR count (execution time 500-1000 µs):               0
ISR count (execution time 1000-2000 µs):              0
ISR count (execution time 2000-4000 µs):              0
ISR count (execution time >=4000 µs):                 0


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REPORTED DPCs
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DPC routines are part of the interrupt servicing dispatch mechanism and disable the possibility for a process to utilize the CPU while it is interrupted until the DPC has finished execution.

Highest DPC routine execution time (µs):              1056.133765
Driver with highest DPC routine execution time:       ndis.sys - Network Driver Interface Specification (NDIS), Microsoft Corporation

Highest reported total DPC routine time (%):          0.014545
Driver with highest DPC total execution time:         dxgkrnl.sys - DirectX Graphics Kernel, Microsoft Corporation

Total time spent in DPCs (%)                          0.029013

DPC count (execution time <250 µs):                   352254
DPC count (execution time 250-500 µs):                0
DPC count (execution time 500-10000 µs):              313
DPC count (execution time 1000-2000 µs):              3
DPC count (execution time 2000-4000 µs):              0
DPC count (execution time >=4000 µs):                 0


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 REPORTED HARD PAGEFAULTS
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Hard pagefaults are events that get triggered by making use of virtual memory that is not resident in RAM but backed by a memory mapped file on disk. The process of resolving the hard pagefault requires reading in the memory from disk while the process is interrupted and blocked from execution.

NOTE: some processes were hit by hard pagefaults. If these were programs producing audio, they are likely to interrupt the audio stream resulting in dropouts, clicks and pops. Check the Processes tab to see which programs were hit.

Process with highest pagefault count:                 svchost.exe

Total number of hard pagefaults                       1869
Hard pagefault count of hardest hit process:          1286
Number of processes hit:                              27


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 PER CPU DATA
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CPU 0 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       6.459480
CPU 0 ISR highest execution time (µs):                57.200943
CPU 0 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.353733
CPU 0 ISR count:                                      31514
CPU 0 DPC highest execution time (µs):                1056.133765
CPU 0 DPC total execution time (s):                   1.395870
CPU 0 DPC count:                                      284940
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CPU 1 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       0.604814
CPU 1 ISR highest execution time (µs):                26.466706
CPU 1 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.000386
CPU 1 ISR count:                                      25
CPU 1 DPC highest execution time (µs):                68.130230
CPU 1 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.044829
CPU 1 DPC count:                                      8167
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CPU 2 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       1.524010
CPU 2 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 2 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 2 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 2 DPC highest execution time (µs):                156.606364
CPU 2 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.11190
CPU 2 DPC count:                                      15784
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CPU 3 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       0.551075
CPU 3 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 3 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 3 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 3 DPC highest execution time (µs):                92.032410
CPU 3 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.019586
CPU 3 DPC count:                                      4533
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CPU 4 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       0.668980
CPU 4 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 4 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 4 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 4 DPC highest execution time (µs):                75.703595
CPU 4 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.033440
CPU 4 DPC count:                                      8421
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CPU 5 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       1.978672
CPU 5 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 5 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 5 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 5 DPC highest execution time (µs):                121.183854
CPU 5 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.065183
CPU 5 DPC count:                                      12786
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CPU 6 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       0.500988
CPU 6 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 6 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 6 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 6 DPC highest execution time (µs):                65.445492
CPU 6 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.009169
CPU 6 DPC count:                                      1807
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CPU 7 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       0.487318
CPU 7 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 7 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 7 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 7 DPC highest execution time (µs):                80.081320
CPU 7 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.011392
CPU 7 DPC count:                                      2820
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CPU 8 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       0.526451
CPU 8 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 8 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 8 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 8 DPC highest execution time (µs):                82.425457
CPU 8 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.007388
CPU 8 DPC count:                                      1270
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CPU 9 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       1.026025
CPU 9 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 9 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 9 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 9 DPC highest execution time (µs):                69.662935
CPU 9 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.013639
CPU 9 DPC count:                                      2448
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CPU 10 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       0.529992
CPU 10 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 10 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 10 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 10 DPC highest execution time (µs):                64.293459
CPU 10 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.008810
CPU 10 DPC count:                                      1883
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CPU 11 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       0.449951
CPU 11 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 11 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 11 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 11 DPC highest execution time (µs):                97.431939
CPU 11 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.008075
CPU 11 DPC count:                                      2221
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CPU 12 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       0.483187
CPU 12 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 12 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 12 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 12 DPC highest execution time (µs):                61.678845
CPU 12 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.005314
CPU 12 DPC count:                                      1011
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CPU 13 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       0.551520
CPU 13 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 13 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 13 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 13 DPC highest execution time (µs):                29.662345
CPU 13 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.005697
CPU 13 DPC count:                                      1226
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CPU 14 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       0.496231
CPU 14 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 14 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 14 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 14 DPC highest execution time (µs):                76.374779
CPU 14 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.011560
CPU 14 DPC count:                                      2466
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CPU 15 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       0.479546
CPU 15 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 15 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 15 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 15 DPC highest execution time (µs):                59.264585
CPU 15 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.004506
CPU 15 DPC count:                                      787
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[Disco]

Izgleda da ipak valja taj FSR3

[bambi56x]

Autor OuttaControl

ovo kaze latency mon, odo ubuntu udrit, a i probat bez wifija.

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CONCLUSION
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Your system seems to be having difficulty handling real-time audio and other tasks. You may experience drop outs, clicks or pops due to buffer underruns. One or more DPC routines that belong to a driver running in your system appear to be executing for too long. At least one detected problem appears to be network related. In case you are using a WLAN adapter, try disabling it to get better results. One problem may be related to power management, disable CPU throttling settings in Control Panel and BIOS setup. Check for BIOS updates. 
LatencyMon has been analyzing your system for  0:06:18  (h:mm:ss) on all processors.

Driveri, probaj sve redom uninstal, i nanovo nove/novije verzije (ili verziju dvije starije ako nema novijih). Znači ne samo HDMI audio od AMD-a, nego sve (ili barem ove što dugo zadržavaju, WIFI i HDMI audio).
Kao što sam prije napisao, uvijek pomogne, samo treba vremena. Nekad znaju i USB driveri zabušavat na nekim sustavima.
Jesi probao maknit low power modove/podić minimum power state od procesora? Iako, bolje rješit problem nego ublažit simptom...

[Mladenxy]

Autor Disco

Izgleda da ipak valja taj FSR3

Nisam ni sumnjao da valja, sam nek krene kao standard u svakoj igri za staru RX 6XXX seriju...miran sam do dolaska PS6/novog Boxa. Jedino ak se neš drastično ne promjeni u njihovom cjenovnom razmišljanju.

[Mar]

Imate li problema sa driverima?
Malo igram CS2, sve na very high i 4k reza i do nedavno mi je bilo zakucano na 120fps (freesync sa LG C2 TVom) i sad unazad nekoliko dana mi je oko 60-80fps.
Također, vent od grafe stalno radi na 1300rpm u idle iako je temperatura oko 25-30c.

Custom fan curve mi uopće ne radi, tj postavim i onda se vent ugasi međutim u igri isto se ne pali tako da temperatura skoči nenormalno i throttla.

Probao sam reinstalaciju AMD Adrenalin softverskog paketa i nema promjena.

Riječ je o RX6800XT.

[spawn]

Ja sam vratio drivere iz 7 mjeseca i sve mi radi odlicno. Takodjer cs2. 6700xt. Sve nakon 7 mjeseca mi radi probleme,trza,frame drop itd. Igram na 2k.

[Le0n]

Ja sam morao vratiti isto (7800xt). Ovi od 12mj su nonstop rebootali sistem.

Sent from my M2011K2G using Tapatalk

[Mladenxy]

Ja stalno imam najnovije drivere, igram tonu igara osim CS2 i sve mi radi savršeno.

[Mar]

Znači, testira sam u uključenim overlayem. Performanse su tragične.
Grafa radi na 99-100% i troši samo 100w, temperatura je 35-40 u loadu. Probao sam CS2 i BG3, ista stvar.

Proba sam uninstall sa AMD Cleanup utility i DDU kroz safe mode i ponovnu instalaciju drivera i ništa.

Edit: Uspio sam iz 2. pokušaja. Stavio drivere 23.7.2.
Sad radi normalno.

[blackened]

Ja sam imao stutter u Alan Wakeu sa ovim najnovijim 23.12.1, vratio na 23.11.1 i nestalo stuttera. Isto 6800xt

[mrgud11]

Imam Asus Dual RX 6700 XT OC grafu i prilikom igranja buka je nesnosna.
Moram smanjiti brzinu ventilatora na 40% kako bi buka bila kolko tolko prihvatljiva.
Ako netko ima istu grafu da li se isto ponaša ili je problem sa mojim primjerkom.

[VanHelsing]

moja RX6800 (XFX Speedster SWFT core 319) na ovim zadnjim driverima u pojedinim igrama se random crasha, black screen + no signal na monitoru, jedino riješenje hard reset i nakon toga mi je ugašen SAM u Adrenalinu iako u bisou ostaje sve uključeno...jedino što sam probao od starih drivera je 11.mjesec i ovu PRO verziju, ali opet isto, više nisam čačkao, imam ju tek 15 dana (kupljena nova u ADM-u)
zna netko koja je najstabilnija zadnja verzija drivera da odmah probam nju da ne idem redoma sve skidati (vidim da neki pišu verzija iz 7.mjeseca)?

[Mladenxy]

Meni je svaka stabilna i uvijek sam na zadnjoj verziji.

[Exy]

Mislim da nitko još nije stavio najbolji RDNA2, 680M





https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/104958498?
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/104914895?


Slabije od zadnjeg integriranog Arc-a, ali neloše za ultrabook.

[The Exiled]

Koji model laptopa si na kraju kupil, jer Ryzen 7 7735U se fino paše sa 680M iGPU-om?

[Exy]

Jedini koji je u ovom trenu zadovoljavao ono što sam htio, priznajem da otkad sam vidio kako izgleda OLED na laptopu, morao sam preći na to
Uvjeti su bili OLED, barem 15,6, solidna integrirana grafika (to u ovom trenu znači jedino 680M/780M/novi ARC) a da ne bude iznad kilu i pol jer ne želim tegliti to okolo. Tako da je izbor pao na ASUS Zenbook 15 OLED (UM3504). 7735U i 680M su dobra kombinacija, kao što kažeš. Je da bi bilo idealno imati zen4 ali zen3+ će zasad morati poslužiti.
Za većinu igara koje igram mi je 680M dovoljan a za zahtjevnije stvari imam geforce now . BG3 na oledu izgleda fantastično