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Staro 18.03.2018., 12:57   #1
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Staro 19.04.2018., 16:06   #2
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Staro 19.04.2018., 16:07   #3
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Staro 19.04.2018., 16:08   #4
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Staro 19.04.2018., 16:24   #5
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Staro 19.04.2018., 16:25   #6
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max oc ocekivano los, ali krivulja napon/freq/potrošnja do 4GHz je brutalno dobra, cca 1.2V za 4GHz

ako 7nm proces za romu nastavi ovim koracima, nece biti lijepo intelu na serverskom tržištu
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Staro 19.04.2018., 16:30   #7
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max oc ocekivano los, ali krivulja napon/freq/potrošnja do 4GHz je brutalno dobra, cca 1.2V za 4GHz
Pa 6000 MHz nije dovoljno dobro? Šalim se.
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Staro 19.04.2018., 16:33   #8
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max oc ocekivano los, ali krivulja napon/freq/potrošnja do 4GHz je brutalno dobra, cca 1.2V za 4GHz
Ma trenutno 2600X najbolji tj. bestbuy,vjerojatno idem na njega,trenutno je samo cijena previsoka,traže za njega 1850kn šta je previše(intel 8600k je malo skuplji) ali samo je u dvije trgovine trenutno dostupan.
Za gaming koliko vidim takt više ništa ne znači ili jako malo povećanja i kod intela i kod amd-a. 2600X na 4GHz sa malim naponom i prst u uho
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Staro 19.04.2018., 16:34   #9
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2700X će bit bomboncic. Brko kad stize?
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Staro 19.04.2018., 16:37   #10
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2600x on uzima

Ja sam ipak odlučio. Ili ryzen 7 1700 ili 2700, neću ići na Ryzen 5 2600. Sada za vikend ću skinuti bočnu stranicu da mogu reset CMOS i idem lagano clockati bar na 3.9 pa probati rezultate neke dobiti.
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Staro 19.04.2018., 16:37   #11
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uzimat x nema smisla 2600 i 2700 pa klokat do x za razliku u parama
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Staro 19.04.2018., 16:44   #12
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ima smisla 2700x zbog dobrog stock coolera
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Staro 19.04.2018., 16:51   #13
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uzimat x nema smisla 2600 i 2700 pa klokat do x za razliku u parama
Ima smisla 2600X,2600X je slab kloker a 2600 prema tome bude još slabiji.A i temperature procesora nisu bajne.

Ali 4GHz ili 4.1GHz na svim jezgrama i na 2600X sa bilo kojom matičnom pločom valjda nebu problem??
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Staro 19.04.2018., 16:52   #14
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2700X će bit bomboncic. Brko kad stize?
Sutra ću znati sve. R5 2600X 90% / R5 2600 10%. Sigurno je da neću uzimati bilo koji R7. Danas ili sutra ide moj Rajko na tržnjaka. Biti će cijena vrlo vrlo popularna
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Staro 19.04.2018., 17:05   #15
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meni moj 2700X stigao
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Staro 19.04.2018., 17:49   #16
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Staro 19.04.2018., 17:50   #17
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Staro 19.04.2018., 18:13   #18
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Nema po nasima ducanima nista ''rasprodano'' ni procesora ni maticnih,
pa niti snizavanja cijena prijasnjih generacija 1xxx ,b350,x370 treba cekat sad koliko :/
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Staro 19.04.2018., 18:22   #19
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Na nivou intelovih

Nužan kao takav, ali daleko od odličnog.
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Staro 19.04.2018., 18:50   #21
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Na nivou intelovih

Nužan kao takav, ali daleko od odličnog.
Haha Ali i intel priprema nešto
https://www.digitaltrends.com/comput...iversary-chip/

Evo ih i u adm,naštancal ih je amd izgleda jako puno.

https://www.adm.hr/procesor-amd-ryze...m_medium=click

Ali ploča X470 uopće nema.
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Staro 19.04.2018., 18:58   #22
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S obzirom da na gen prije nije 5 god bilo nikakvog refresha, dobro je.
Šintel već 4 generacije ima lošiji refresh...
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What we can say is that the X470 isn't directly replacing X370; AMD has stated to us that they expect X370 and X470 to be sold alongside each other.
Wut? Očekivao bih da će se x370 prodavati do prodaje zaliha, a da je x470 zamjena. Možda se radi o tome, ali da tip nije shvatio

Drugi wtf moment je taj da je refresh kod njih pomeo u svim igrama sa gtx 1080

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Update: A number of comments have noted that some of our gaming numbers are different to other publications. To clarify, we used the latest ASUS 0508 BIOS (on X470), full Windows RS3 + updates, Spectre/Meltdown patches, and updated gaming titles. We are reviewing the data.
Inače sa tweakanjima su dobili i napredak u IPC od 3% u prosjeku, a ranije sam očekivao da će samo dići clockove. Ima naznaka i da je možda i SMT još efikasniji, te da će to još testirati. Idem provjeriti kod švaba, oni su najdetaljniji

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Staro 19.04.2018., 19:50   #24
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Sve skupa ok za jedan refresh i istu cijenu kao 1700 (računam i pad dolara ali i bolji hladnjak). Bar će biti lakše preći 4.0 GHz uz manje napone i obično hlađenje, a i Drug Brko će mirnije spavat

@Overclock_freak ... tog 2700X ćeš staviti na X370 ploču ili čekaš X470 ?
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Staro 19.04.2018., 19:52   #25
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Pročitao anandtech recenziju, ima par wtf momenata
da, dosta odstupaju od svih ostalih reviewova koje sam pogledao...
Čudnost.
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Staro 19.04.2018., 19:57   #26
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Test Bed

As per our processor testing policy, we take a premium category motherboard suitable for the socket, and equip the system with a suitable amount of memory running at the manufacturer's maximum supported frequency. This is also typically run at JEDEC subtimings where possible. It is noted that some users are not keen on this policy, stating that sometimes the maximum supported frequency is quite low, or faster memory is available at a similar price, or that the JEDEC speeds can be prohibitive for performance. While these comments make sense, ultimately very few users apply memory profiles (either XMP or other) as they require interaction with the BIOS, and most users will fall back on JEDEC supported speeds - this includes home users as well as industry who might want to shave off a cent or two from the cost or stay within the margins set by the manufacturer. Where possible, we will extend out testing to include faster memory modules either at the same time as the review or a later date.
Što bi značilo da su se prvi ryzeni i coffee lake vrtili na 2666mhz, a ryzen+ na 2933mhz
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(remember the 2700X has a 10C offset while the 2600X has none),
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Staro 19.04.2018., 22:55   #29
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Rezime na spram 1gen:
proc ima mali napredak u ipcu i radnom taktu
mbo isti kuki

Tko je kriv za veće taktove memorije, novi cpu ili chipset?
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Sve skupa ok za jedan refresh i istu cijenu kao 1700 (računam i pad dolara ali i bolji hladnjak). Bar će biti lakše preći 4.0 GHz uz manje napone i obično hlađenje, a i Drug Brko će mirnije spavat

@Overclock_freak ... tog 2700X ćeš staviti na X370 ploču ili čekaš X470 ?
x370 gaming 5 danas

a sledeci tjedan stize x470 gaming aprus 7
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