Vijesti i novosti o Intel procesorima i čipsetima - Stranica 174

kopija · 19.10.2021., 20:46

"Touchscreen would be great!".

Mora da su tu istu ekipu zaposlili u Redmondu na razvoju GUI-ja.

Sinac · 20.10.2021., 09:56

Može Apple isto tako napraviti reklamu gdje svi "orgazmiraju" na njihove proizvode.

Nego, koliko je meni poznato, sam Intel je prestao proizvoditi consumer hardver i ima samo "Intel-powered" uređaje. I baš nešto i ne nalazim notebooke u kojima mogu mijenjati količinu memorije ili procesor. Sve postoji, samo se skriva u onoj Intelovoj sobi...

The Exiled · 20.10.2021., 11:50

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Intel Core i9-12900K overclocked to 5.2 GHz on all Performance cores reportedly consumes 330W of power

Mladenxy · 20.10.2021., 13:15

Šteta kaj ne mogu složiti brz i štedljiv procesor. Konkurencija je potrebna.

Dr. Strange · 21.10.2021., 14:31

Još malo pozitivnih vijesti: https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i9-1...4-stress-test/

SlavoS · 21.10.2021., 16:53

Sjetih se pretka, Prescott se je zvao......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG3wceb05Sg

The Exiled · 21.10.2021., 20:15

Ah, sve je nažalost bilo jasno čim su prve PL1 i PL2 brojke izašle na vidjelo, a 250W i 100+ °C bude sasvim normalno za high-end Core i9-12900K, dok su ove OC perverzije čisti apsurd.

Tak da jedino ostaju single-core/thread sirove performanse, ako se išta od toga obestini u službenim recenzijama, samo je pitanje koliko će to vrijediti u odnosu na potrošnju i zagrijavanje.

Ni male ni velike jezgre nisu ništa pretjerano šparne, 10nm/Intel 7 proces nema efekta, a cijela stvar je i dalje bazirana na monolitnom dizajnu.

SlavoS · 21.10.2021., 22:03

Bordovi sposobni hendlat pola kilowata+ bi mogli koštat, ma plašim se i pretpostavit.

The Exiled · 21.10.2021., 22:09

Cijene budu svakak popularne (1 - 2), a izgleda da većina ploča ne dolazi bez razloga nakrcana VRM skalamerijom.

Mladenxy · 21.10.2021., 23:13

Tek druge godine kad izađe i5 6/12 samo velike jezgre (i5 12400F) i puno jeftinije ploče možemo pričati o uloženo/dobiveno gaming Intel stroju.

The Exiled · 21.10.2021., 23:33

Tak i bude, isto je bilo za 10400(F) i kasnije 11400(F) modele, a u međuvremenu Intel i novi CEO imaju itekakvog materijala za razmišljanje.

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Prime contracting no longer one of Intel’s HPC aspirations

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It is obvious that a lot of this investment and effort by Intel in the broader HPC market has not paid off directly — meaning lots of systems at HPC centers, hyperscalers, and cloud builders using its exotic wares. In its fourth quarter, the Intel Federal division, which is the prime contractor for the Aurora system, is taking a $300 million write-down. Gelsinger can’t afford the public drama that Aurora has represented — it will be nearly four years late when it is delivered next year — nor can he afford such hits to Intel’s books.

Intel falls as forecast shows costly path to regain dominance

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Intel Corp., the world’s largest chipmaker, gave a lackluster forecast for the current period, fueling concerns that the cost of Chief Executive Officer Pat Gelsinger’s turnaround will weigh on the company’s profits. Shares fell about 7% in extended trading. If Intel’s fourth quarter comes in as the chipmaker predicts, revenue will decline 3% from a year earlier, gross margin will drop 6.5 percentage points and earnings per share will fall about 40%. Low expectations for Intel's quarterly figures had preceded the release, despite the boom times in almost every IT segment. In terms of sales, Intel was only able to convince to a limited extent, while a one-off payment helped a lot in terms of profit. For the final quarter, Intel expects pretty much the same endeavor again. No sales growth, the margin could also fall, and profits fall. The stock market doesn't like these prospects at all, and immediately after the figures were announced, things went into the red.

Intel’s talks for chip designer SiFive have ended without a deal

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Intel Corp.’s talks with chip designer SiFive Inc. have ended without a deal and the startup will seek outside investment instead. Talks between the two companies fell apart recently after they couldn’t agree on financial terms and how the SiFive technology would be integrated into Intel’s chip roadmap, the people said, asking not to be identified because the matter is private. SiFive is now looking to stay independent and sees an eventual initial public offering as a long-term goal, they said.

SlavoS · 22.10.2021., 00:35

E sad kad se pojavi picajzla, i objasni nama neukima...

The Exiled · 22.10.2021., 10:02

Intel reports Q3 2021 earnings: Client down, Data Center and IoT up

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The only groups not to report gains are Intel’s Client Computing Group (though this is their largest group) and their Non-Volatile Memory Solutions Group, which Intel is in the process of selling to SK Hynix. Starting with the CCG then, Intel’s core group is unfortunately also the only one struggling to grow right now. The bigger thorn in Intel’s side at the moment, according to the company, is the ongoing chip crunch, which has limited laptop sales. With Intel’s OEM partners unable to source enough components to build as many laptops as they’d like, it has the knock-on effect of reducing their CPU orders, even though Intel itself doesn’t seem to be having production issues. The upshot, at least, is that desktop sales are up significantly versus the year-ago quarter, and that average selling prices (ASPs) for both desktop and notebook chips are up.

Izvor: AnandTech

Mladenxy · 22.10.2021., 19:50

Znači i dalje rekordno.

The Exiled · 22.10.2021., 20:10

Je, i dalje lupaju rekordne zarade.

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Intel’s 12% slide erases more than $20 billion from market value

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Apple kicked an M1-shaped hole in Intel's quarter

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CFO George Davis – whose retirement was announced today – was at pains to point out that were it not for Apple quitting Intel silicon and Chipzilla exiting the modem business, client-related revenue would have risen ten per cent. Davis predicted another shock from declining demand from China. CEO Pat Gelsinger told investors that as a result of China's recent crackdown on gaming "all of the cloud vendors are adjusting their offerings to meet that new regulatory environment, so we expect there is a quarter or two for them to digest what they would look like."

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Pat Gelsinger laid it all out on the table and stopped the charade. He was once a farm boy from rural Pennsylvania who moved out to Silicon Valley at the age of 18 to work at Intel. Now he has the keys to the company, and he’s betting the entire farm on its future technological dominance. It’s been very clear Intel will lose market share for at least the next couple of years due to increased competition from AMD, Apple decoupling, and various hyperscaler in-house efforts. Pat Gelsinger minced no words when stating 2022 would be a bad year. Revenue will shrink from $77.7B to ~$74B and gross margins will fall all the way to 51% to 53% for the next few years. These failures were a long time coming due to prior poor leadership and engineering failures.

Mladenxy · 22.10.2021., 20:20

Neto prihodi su i dalje rekordni, dionica varira, AMD dionica i prihodi rastu. Ništa tu nije meni sporno.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-n...hku4wde5sZPsWc

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Intel paid out 30% of its profit as dividends over the trailing twelve-month period.

brijem da se ljudima isplati ulagati u tu firmu, barem kratkoročno.

The Exiled · 22.10.2021., 20:25

Nije ni meni sporno, a Intel sve te rekordne zarade na kraju dana i fino koštaju, a to im baš i ne paše nakon kaj su više od deset godina (bili) na autopilotu.

Novi CEO i dalje obećaje povratak u velikom stilu, dok istovremeno ovisi o TSMC-u ništa manje, nego ostali kojih se pod hitno želi riješiti, bilo nVidia, ARM ili AMD.

Mladenxy · 22.10.2021., 20:28

Intel je USA kapitalna i strateško sigurnosna investicija. Nema tu zime, ak zapne biti će poticaja...

The Exiled · 22.10.2021., 20:31

Otkad je preuzel direktorsko mjesto, novi CEO ne prestaje tražiti poticije za sve što najavljuje, tak da po tom pitanju sigurno nema(ju) brige. Ostaje jedino vidjeti kaj od obećanog budu ostvarili.

Nadolazeći Alder Lake s 10% do 15% boljim single-core/thread performansma u odnosu na godinu dana stare Zen 3 modele, dok pri tome troši duplo više, baš i nije napredak.

Također, kreirali su, odnosno razdvojili postojeću HPC grupu, tako da kasnije lakše u jednoj utope 300 milijuna dolara gubitka zbog odgađanja jedinog ugovora za Aurora superračunalo.

Budemo pričekali daljnji razvoj situacije.

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PL1 = PL2: Alder Lake-S gets more TDP leeway

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With the approaching start of Alder Lake processors for the desktop, more and more information is also coming to light. So far, based on the current rumor, it could be assumed that the top models still have a TDP of 125W and also have an increased power limit for a shorter period of 228 to 241W of time . According to the information from Igor's Lab , a PL1 has completely disappeared from the current BIOS versions or the previously known PL2 has now become a PL1. This does not seem to be an accidental change or an error. You have to know that Intel was not very strict here in the past. In addition, however, the mainboard manufacturers can make their own optimizations.

With Alder Lake-S, there now seems to be another change that allows mainboard manufacturers to suspend a PL1 and go directly to the respective PL2, which should then be permanently available. According to the quotations from the technical documentation presented by Igor's Lab, the system integrators should ensure that PL1 = PL2 can also be adhered to. To do this, five consecutive runs in Cinebench R20 must be made - with consistent results and without major thermal loads on the voltage converters.

It then becomes decisive in the specifications for the currents or power consumption:
PL1 (W) 241

PL2 (W) 241

PL4 (W) 359

Since Intel has not yet presented any official technical data for the Alder Lake processors and we are bound to an NDA, we cannot comment on the information any further.

It was already known in advance that the processors manufactured in Intel 7, i.e. 10 nm, would not be more economical than their predecessors.

Izvor: HardwareLuxx

The Exiled · 27.10.2021., 10:34

Službeno preCtavljanje danas u 18:00h po našem vremenu, a odmah nakon toga ide preorder, dok za službene recenzije čekamo do sljedećeg tjedna.

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Intel 12th Gen Core “Alder Lake-S” final specifications and pricing leak ahead of launch

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Intel Core i9-12900K featuring 16 cores (8 Performance and 8 Efficient) and 24 threads will carry a boost clock up to 5.2 GHz, there is no Thermal Velocity Boost according to the official slide deck. This CPU will cost 589 USD, which is an increase of 50 USD over Core i9-11900K at launch. The KF variant which lacks integrated UHD Graphics 770 based on Xe architecture will cost 564 USD, 51 USD over the predecessor. Intel Core i7-12700K is a 12-core and 20 thread CPU (8 Performance and 4 Efficient cores) with a boost clock up to 5.0 GHz. This model will retail at 409 USD with a KF variant going retail at 384 USD. What this means is that consumers will have to pay 10 USD more for each SKU compared to the 11th Gen Core series.

The Core i5-12600K with 10 cores and 16 threads (6 Performance and 4 Efficient cores) will not support Intel Turbo Boost Max 3.0 technology unlike Core i7 and Core i9 SKUs. The maximum boost of the Performance core is 4.9 GHz. This CPU will cost 289 USD with the KF variant going for 264 USD. We are looking at a 27 USD price increase over the predecessor. Intel has a few slides featuring Core i9-12900K performance, but by far the most interesting slide is gaming, which has not been featured in the recent leaks. Intel claims 12900K delivers better performance than the flagship AMD Ryzen 9 5950X CPU in 7 titles out of 9 tested. Intel Alder Lake-S lineup which will be announced later today features 6 SKUs. The processors will officially go on sale on November 4th, but the preorders are to begin shortly after the announcement.

Izvor: Interneti

Dr. Strange · 27.10.2021., 14:45

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Autor The Exiled

Službeno preCtavljanje danas u 18:00h po našem vremenu, a odmah nakon toga ide preorder, dok za službene recenzije čekamo do sljedećeg tjedna.

Prema ovim rezultatima u gamingu Zen 3d će se ravnopravno nositi s ADL, ostaje pitanje samo šta će biti s jeftinijim modelima ryzena, tj hoće li i koliko dodatnog cache-a stavljati, mogli bi to raditi nešto slično kao što rade s grafama pa skalirati s cache-om.

The Exiled · 27.10.2021., 17:11

U probranim naslovima, Core i9-12900K ide od -3% do +30%. To je to.

Dr. Strange · 27.10.2021., 18:12

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Autor The Exiled

U probranim naslovima, Core i9-12900K ide od -3% do +30%. To je to.

Skoro pa identično kao Zen 3d vs Zen3, ni ne čudi me što se toliko dugo čekalo na gaming testove, ADL briljira u cpu-z i cinebenchu, no u igrama i ne baš toliko ako je suditi prema ovome, a da može bolje sigurno bi Intel stavio druge naslove kako bi poboljšao prosjek.

the_ghost · 27.10.2021., 18:20

Ovo bi moglo biti gore nego sto mislimo, Charlie ne voli intel al opet:

https://semiaccurate.com/2021/10/27/...ss-complexity/

The Exiled · 27.10.2021., 18:30

Čovek je bil dosad za dosta toga u pravu, kad je Intel u pitanju, tak da ne bi bilo ništa čudno da i ovaj put zna više od ostalih.

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There is one, and only one, benchmark that compares Alder Lake against AMD products, the rest only compare against 14nm Intel products be they Rocket/Ice cores or Sky Lake derivatives. The AMD chips were crippled due to the Windows 11 cache and core selection bugs but to be fair Intel acknowledged that up front. This is the long way of saying the AMD numbers should increase substantially when the patches, now out, are applied.

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With the 12th Gen, Intel is changing the definition of "PL" power levels. PL1 is now an abstract concept, and no longer strictly matches with the TDP advertised for a particular SKU. All of the unlocked K/KF SKUs come with a "processor base power" rating of 125 W. The company will no longer use the term "TDP" in its documentation or marketing. The PL2 value as we knew it, will now be referred to as "maximum turbo power." For all SKUs being launched today, the default value for both these values is 241 W, so PL1=PL2=241 W. We're not exactly sure how this can work together with a "125 W" claim—we'll know more on September 4th when our reviews go live.

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Intel 12th Gen Core Alder Lake for Desktops: Top SKUs Only, Coming November 4th

Disco · 28.10.2021., 05:03

Win 11 build bez AMD patcha, uključen VBS na Intelu, usporedba sa AMDom samo u igrama...meh....pričekajmo prave rivjue.
Premda izgleda da AL ipak nije baš za bacit.

The Exiled · 28.10.2021., 10:22

Da, nažalost s Intelom se nikad ne zna, a dokle god uz najbolje performanse ikad, istovremeno najavljuju visoke taktove, koji pak za sobom povlače podjednako visoku potrošnju i zagrijavanje - pitanje je koliko je tu zapravo noviteta.

S druge strane pak, ovaj Tom lik već sad priča o tome da treba pričaketi Raptor Lake uz Zen 4 i 5, jer Alder Lake neće biti baš za svakoga, a prave stvari tek stižu, pa kupujte sad, samo ako baš trebate.

Frajer više ni sam ne zna za kojim vjetrom da trči, jer cijelo ovo vrijeme priča o Alder Lakeu kao dolasku novog Mesije, a sad kad je tu i recenzije stižu sljedeći tjedan - e dajte da vam velim nešto.

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Intel CEO vows to keep Moore's Law going and will exhaust the periodic table if necessary

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Intel aims for Zettaflops by 2027, pushes Aurora above 2 Exaflops

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Intel- Analysts/Investor flub shows disconnect on Intel, Industry & challenges

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Whenever a stock drops 12% in one day there is some sort of major disconnect between the company and the street. Analysts should have able to figure out that capex wasn’t just going to go up 20% year on year and be enough to catch TSMC spending $25B a year, twice Intel. Its clear that Intel has to spend TSMC-like sums of CAPEX and then some more in order to catch TSMC. If we use EUV tool count as a proxy for spend ( which is a good approximation) they need to outspend TSMC now to make up for years of under investment and under buying.

TSMC does not work for free and will not give away its precious leading edge capacity to a company that wants to beat it, without extracting a pound of flesh. TSMC has Intel in a tough position and will squeeze for what its worth and Intel has no choice but to pay up otherwise TSMC will turn on the AMD floodgates. Becoming a foundry player is not just the $20B to build two fabs in Arizona(let alone fabs in Europe…) and fill them with equipment. Its hiring lots of people (let alone finding the talent) and building the infrastructure (or buying it) needed to service silicon customers. Something Intel wasn’t able to accomplish in the past. Building the two fabs and all associated foundry expenses for something that may not show revenue for years and take a long time to ramp will be a huge drain.

In the meantime renewed competition from AMD (whose product is being built in the same TSMC fabs as Intel) and others as well as emerging competition (like Apple, ARM, Google, Facebook etc…) will negatively impact revenues and pricing. Bottom line is Intel is caught in a longer term margin squeeze. The problem just got even worse as Intel is now stuck with “triple spending”. Spending (or gross margins loss) on TSMC, re-building their own fabs and now a third cost of building additional foundry capacity for outside customers. We don’t see how Intel avoids a financial hit.

Izvor: SemiWiki

Ovaj CEO stvarno ne može biti tiho, a izjave su mu sve hit do hita.

Disco · 28.10.2021., 13:15

Da ovo sa MLID sam i aj skužio, prvo je hajpao AL kolko ide, a sada odjednom kaže preskačite AL i Zen3+, osim u nuždi. Ja ću evo biti ''pametan'' pa ću dodat da će i zen4 biti za preskok jer će biti prvi AMD na DDR5...

Dr. Strange · 28.10.2021., 16:41

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Autor Disco

Da ovo sa MLID sam i aj skužio, prvo je hajpao AL kolko ide, a sada odjednom kaže preskačite AL i Zen3+, osim u nuždi. Ja ću evo biti ''pametan'' pa ću dodat da će i zen4 biti za preskok jer će biti prvi AMD na DDR5...

Kod AMD-a je dosta drugačija situacija jer koriste isti dizajn arhitekture tj all big cores pa neće zahtijevati specifične optimizacije kao što to zahtjeva ADL, a i u trenutku kad Zen 4 bude izašao ddr5 će biti brži i pristupačniji. Dok ADL bude ispoliran izaći će i Raptor Lake a.k.a finalna verzija ADL-a sa još boljim thread schedulerom i hardverskim optimizacijama tako da je najpametnija odluka izbjegavati ADL i čuvati novac ili za bolju grafu ili te buduće procesore.

Dr. Strange · 29.10.2021., 15:15

https://twitter.com/TechnicallyLog1/...23271619252230

21.10.2021., 16:53	#5196
SlavoS Premium Datum registracije: May 2003 Lokacija: Samobor Postovi: 1,115	Sjetih se pretka, Prescott se je zvao...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG3wceb05Sg __________________ SS

21.10.2021., 20:15	#5197
The Exiled McG Moj komp Datum registracije: Feb 2014 Lokacija: Varaždin Postovi: 6,771	Ah, sve je nažalost bilo jasno čim su prve PL1 i PL2 brojke izašle na vidjelo, a 250W i 100+ °C bude sasvim normalno za high-end Core i9-12900K, dok su ove OC perverzije čisti apsurd. Tak da jedino ostaju single-core/thread sirove performanse, ako se išta od toga obestini u službenim recenzijama, samo je pitanje koliko će to vrijediti u odnosu na potrošnju i zagrijavanje. Ni male ni velike jezgre nisu ništa pretjerano šparne, 10nm/Intel 7 proces nema efekta, a cijela stvar je i dalje bazirana na monolitnom dizajnu. __________________ AMD Ryzen 7 Pro 4750G + Vega iGPU \| be quiet! Pure Rock 2 Black \| MSI B450 Tomahawk Max II \| 32GB G.Skill DDR4-2666 Value \| 256GB AData SX8200 Pro NVMe \| 2x4TB WD Red Plus \| Fractal Define 7 Compact \| Corsair CX450M

21.10.2021., 22:03	#5198
SlavoS Premium Datum registracije: May 2003 Lokacija: Samobor Postovi: 1,115	Bordovi sposobni hendlat pola kilowata+ bi mogli koštat, ma plašim se i pretpostavit. __________________ SS

21.10.2021., 22:09	#5199
The Exiled McG Moj komp Datum registracije: Feb 2014 Lokacija: Varaždin Postovi: 6,771	Cijene budu svakak popularne (1 - 2), a izgleda da većina ploča ne dolazi bez razloga nakrcana VRM skalamerijom. __________________ AMD Ryzen 7 Pro 4750G + Vega iGPU \| be quiet! Pure Rock 2 Black \| MSI B450 Tomahawk Max II \| 32GB G.Skill DDR4-2666 Value \| 256GB AData SX8200 Pro NVMe \| 2x4TB WD Red Plus \| Fractal Define 7 Compact \| Corsair CX450M

22.10.2021., 00:35	#5202
SlavoS Premium Datum registracije: May 2003 Lokacija: Samobor Postovi: 1,115	E sad kad se pojavi picajzla, i objasni nama neukima... __________________ SS

19.10.2021., 20:46	#5191
kopija DIY DILETANT Datum registracije: Jan 2009 Lokacija: Čistilište Postovi: 3,058	"Touchscreen would be great!". Mora da su tu istu ekipu zaposlili u Redmondu na razvoju GUI-ja.

20.10.2021., 09:56	#5192
Sinac ...samo te gledam... Moj komp Datum registracije: Mar 2007 Lokacija: Zagreb Postovi: 2,746	Može Apple isto tako napraviti reklamu gdje svi "orgazmiraju" na njihove proizvode. Nego, koliko je meni poznato, sam Intel je prestao proizvoditi consumer hardver i ima samo "Intel-powered" uređaje. I baš nešto i ne nalazim notebooke u kojima mogu mijenjati količinu memorije ili procesor. Sve postoji, samo se skriva u onoj Intelovoj sobi...

20.10.2021., 13:15	#5194
Mladenxy Premium Moj komp Datum registracije: Feb 2007 Lokacija: Zagreb Postovi: 3,970	Šteta kaj ne mogu složiti brz i štedljiv procesor. Konkurencija je potrebna.

21.10.2021., 14:31	#5195
Dr. Strange Registered User Datum registracije: Aug 2020 Lokacija: Hrvatska Postovi: 813	Još malo pozitivnih vijesti: https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i9-1...4-stress-test/

21.10.2021., 23:13	#5200
Mladenxy Premium Moj komp Datum registracije: Feb 2007 Lokacija: Zagreb Postovi: 3,970	Tek druge godine kad izađe i5 6/12 samo velike jezgre (i5 12400F) i puno jeftinije ploče možemo pričati o uloženo/dobiveno gaming Intel stroju.

22.10.2021., 19:50	#5204
Mladenxy Premium Moj komp Datum registracije: Feb 2007 Lokacija: Zagreb Postovi: 3,970	Znači i dalje rekordno.

22.10.2021., 20:25	#5207
The Exiled McG Moj komp Datum registracije: Feb 2014 Lokacija: Varaždin Postovi: 6,771	Nije ni meni sporno, a Intel sve te rekordne zarade na kraju dana i fino koštaju, a to im baš i ne paše nakon kaj su više od deset godina (bili) na autopilotu. Novi CEO i dalje obećaje povratak u velikom stilu, dok istovremeno ovisi o TSMC-u ništa manje, nego ostali kojih se pod hitno želi riješiti, bilo nVidia, ARM ili AMD. __________________ AMD Ryzen 7 Pro 4750G + Vega iGPU \| be quiet! Pure Rock 2 Black \| MSI B450 Tomahawk Max II \| 32GB G.Skill DDR4-2666 Value \| 256GB AData SX8200 Pro NVMe \| 2x4TB WD Red Plus \| Fractal Define 7 Compact \| Corsair CX450M

22.10.2021., 20:28	#5208
Mladenxy Premium Moj komp Datum registracije: Feb 2007 Lokacija: Zagreb Postovi: 3,970	Intel je USA kapitalna i strateško sigurnosna investicija. Nema tu zime, ak zapne biti će poticaja...

27.10.2021., 17:11	#5212
The Exiled McG Moj komp Datum registracije: Feb 2014 Lokacija: Varaždin Postovi: 6,771	U probranim naslovima, Core i9-12900K ide od -3% do +30%. To je to. __________________ AMD Ryzen 7 Pro 4750G + Vega iGPU \| be quiet! Pure Rock 2 Black \| MSI B450 Tomahawk Max II \| 32GB G.Skill DDR4-2666 Value \| 256GB AData SX8200 Pro NVMe \| 2x4TB WD Red Plus \| Fractal Define 7 Compact \| Corsair CX450M

27.10.2021., 18:20	#5214
the_ghost lar~ Moj komp Datum registracije: Jan 2007 Lokacija: Zagreb Postovi: 1,538	Ovo bi moglo biti gore nego sto mislimo, Charlie ne voli intel al opet: https://semiaccurate.com/2021/10/27/...ss-complexity/

28.10.2021., 05:03	#5216
Disco Prvoklasni Krkan Moj komp Datum registracije: Jan 2006 Lokacija: Rijeka Postovi: 4,434	Win 11 build bez AMD patcha, uključen VBS na Intelu, usporedba sa AMDom samo u igrama...meh....pričekajmo prave rivjue. Premda izgleda da AL ipak nije baš za bacit. __________________ Slobodno me dodajte na PSN

28.10.2021., 13:15	#5218
Disco Prvoklasni Krkan Moj komp Datum registracije: Jan 2006 Lokacija: Rijeka Postovi: 4,434	Da ovo sa MLID sam i aj skužio, prvo je hajpao AL kolko ide, a sada odjednom kaže preskačite AL i Zen3+, osim u nuždi. Ja ću evo biti ''pametan'' pa ću dodat da će i zen4 biti za preskok jer će biti prvi AMD na DDR5... __________________ Slobodno me dodajte na PSN

29.10.2021., 15:15	#5220
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