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Staro 18.10.2005., 22:27   #1
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DFI LANParty UT RDX200.4x512 MB 1T!!!

"The DFI easily handles 2-2-2-7-1T timings at stock speed with 2 double-sided dimms, as do almost any of the current boards for AMD Socket 939 from NVIDIA, SiS, VIA, and ULi. However, what is truly unique is that the DFI LANParty UT RDX200 is the first board designed to run four double-sided 512MB or 1GB DIMMs at the fastest timings and a 1T Command Rate. In fact, AMD specifications tell us that this is impossible. To his credit, Oskar Wu and DFI found a way to accomplish the impossible."

Dakle-kako se i bilo špekuliralo zadnjih tjedana po netu-prva ploča na kojoj je moguće voziti četri dvostrana modula na 1T

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2572&p=1
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Staro 18.10.2005., 22:33   #2
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kad izlazi kad ce bit kod nas nabavljivo??? slin slin
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Staro 18.10.2005., 22:42   #3
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slin slin drool drool !! jebeno. i tata biu sine

ma šit tek sam sad vidio da je to ati crossfire, a ja bi nVidia SLI.
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Staro 18.10.2005., 22:58   #4
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A kakva korist od SLI-a (crossfire)? Das duplo vise para za nes malo vise fpsa, koje ti ionako nikad nece trebati jer svaka igra leti na jednoj kartici.

Mislim da ce DFI LANParty UT RDX200 bit moja prva s939 ploca (ali nazalost ne sa x1800xt grafom)
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Staro 19.10.2005., 00:28   #5
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Baš me zanima koja će cijena biti kod nas...
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Staro 19.10.2005., 14:13   #6
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Cijena u USA ce biti 240$ za Crossfire pa uz malo matematike se dodje do cifre od 1800-2000kn! Prve ce kod nas mozda biti i skuplje
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Staro 19.10.2005., 17:51   #7
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A mislim da nece bit puno skuplje od NF4 DFI maticnih. Bar ne bi trebale bit...
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Staro 21.10.2005., 09:31   #8
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Originally posted by Jerry
Cijena u USA ce biti 240$ za Crossfire pa uz malo matematike se dodje do cifre od 1800-2000kn! Prve ce kod nas mozda biti i skuplje
malo je tebi to puno ispalo.. srednji tecaj USD-a je oko 6.14 pa to ispadne oko 1475kn...i jos dodas malo vise jer mi NISMO u US no mislim da 500kn vise od toga ne moze nikako doci..no opet mozda ja nesto propustam
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Staro 21.10.2005., 11:20   #9
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on je to dobro izracuno jer ameri su ameri a mi smo govra lopovska i naravno da ce nabit cijenu,nebi se cudio da bude po (neko je to hebeno dobro bacio racunicu,sve kaj je u dolarima kod nas se mnozi sa 10 i dobijes cijenu u kn) 2400kn
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Staro 21.10.2005., 11:30   #10
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Ja sam svoju DFI SLI-DR platio 1890kn, kada je izasla kostala je 2100kn
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Staro 21.10.2005., 12:13   #11
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tak je negdje i nf2 lanparty,oko 1300-1400kn kostala i sad je pala na 800-900kn,mozda i manje,hebiga ko oce odma kad ozade platit ce,pametniji cekaju da oni koji kupe da to oce prodat pa to upiknuhehe
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Staro 21.10.2005., 15:13   #12
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U Austriji je ima za 250€

A za usporebu Ultra D se nabavi već od 128€.

NOva igračka izašla s paprenom cjenom kod nas očekuje cjenu u rangu 300€.
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Staro 22.10.2005., 11:09   #13
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Trebala bi biti cijena ko i dfi sa nvidia čipsetom ak ne i niža
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Staro 22.10.2005., 15:08   #14
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Originally posted by Rainmaker-Lihto
ak ne i niža
Neznam zašto niža???
Ipak je to Crossfire ploča, ne možeš očekivati da dok ne bude par proizvođača nudilo Crossfire cijena padne.

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Staro 23.10.2005., 05:11   #15
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Neznam zašto niža???
Ipak je to Crossfire ploča, ne možeš očekivati da dok ne bude par proizvođača nudilo Crossfire cijena padne.
najvjerojatnije ce i izic nekoliko firmi simultano na trziste,dakle u okviru nekih 15-20 dana.to mi je bar logicno jer ipak,mislim da ATI vuce konce,oko svega toga,a onda prema tomu trebali bi ic cijenom ispod NVidiinog produkta.
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Staro 23.10.2005., 11:26   #16
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Originally posted by dautanecII
najvjerojatnije ce i izic nekoliko firmi simultano na trziste,dakle u okviru nekih 15-20 dana.to mi je bar logicno jer ipak,mislim da ATI vuce konce,oko svega toga,a onda prema tomu trebali bi ic cijenom ispod NVidiinog produkta.
Je, ATI je poznat kao firma koja voli spuštati cijene
Makar-prvi primjerci idu po 210$, dok dođe do nas možda i padne na prihvatljivu razinu.

To bi bilo fino-upiknuti 4x512 BH-5 i furati sa 1T.
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Staro 23.10.2005., 11:55   #17
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To bi bilo fino-upiknuti 4x512 BH-5 i furati sa 1T.
na 400MHz ??? jer nejde 1T na puno višu frekvenciju od toga

ono što mene zanima kod RDX200 je koliko se sam čipset grije (jer se nf4 grije ko svinja) i koliki su problemi sa memorijskom kompatibilnošću (ako ih ima)
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a ja bih dodao da bi bilo lijepo vidjeti tih 1t sa 4x512mb u rukama nekog 'običnog' korisnika bez picky-picky procesora.
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Staro 23.10.2005., 12:06   #19
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na 400MHz ??? jer nejde 1T na puno višu frekvenciju od toga

ono što mene zanima kod RDX200 je koliko se sam čipset grije (jer se nf4 grije ko svinja) i koliki su problemi sa memorijskom kompatibilnošću (ako ih ima)
To tvoj kramp od meme ne ide više...
Mislim da bi to trebalo ići na kakvih 260.
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Staro 23.10.2005., 22:11   #20
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evo baš gledam i asus je najavio ploču sa ati čipsetom
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Staro 24.10.2005., 00:33   #21
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To tvoj kramp od meme ne ide više...
Mislim da bi to trebalo ići na kakvih 260.
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For those who are thinking that surely there's a catch, the answer is "yes, there is". 1T operation is only possible to a frequency of about DDR406, which basically limits it to stock speeds. Above that speed, you must run 4 DS DIMMs at 2T as you normally must. However, at or near stock speeds, the 1T option is a brilliant development that delivers better performance.
iz anandovog review-a...

zanimljiva je i činjenica da su za 4x512 koristili FX57 ,a ne standardni 4000+ koji se koristio za ostatak testa :\

evo što AG sa DFI street kaže vezano uz temu:

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in reality though...this is sort of a useless feature for this board since most that buy it (and every that it is marketed to) will want to overclock it...and once you go above about 202 (DDR405) you lose this ability...and you are back at 2T

then you have poor USB performance (which I honestly don't care about...the USB works for me on my board and I only use a jumpdrive, gamepad, digital camera, and they all worked very well for me)....is USB performance that important to you? It really isn't to me...but we are all different.

the biggest drawback is lack of NCQ and SATA II...i am rebuilding my main rig with 4GB of memory, an X2 4400+, and 3 hdd's in RAID-0 for video editing and gaming etc. I thought for a minute about going with the RDX200 board I have...but decided against it because I have 3 Hitachi 80GB SATA II drives that are stellar, exceptional performers, and I want that to translate well on my rebuild...and so I stuck to my NF4 SLI-DR, which is still my overclocking champ, as well as my hdd performance champ.

As I had statetd earlier, the RDX200 CF-DR is a great board in teh sense that it boots right out of the box with EVERYTHING left at AUTO, and with now 11 different kits of memory in it...and they all work very well in the board.

as for overclocking....it probably is just me, but I cannot get this board to overclock for nothing, no matter what i put into it, no matter what settings I try.

I used the same hardware (3200+ Venice, Centon/GEIL tccd and GEIL/OCZ BH-5) that I have entered numerous times in the OC Database...and I cannot get this board to overclock...my highest was with Centon TCCD, and I achieved a measely 223HTT (223x10).

Now..I am not the best overclocker on the planet...and I know this is a new board...but I have spent since Friday morning fooling with this thing, and I have sat at the board with my finger on the reset button over and over and over and over and over and over again trying one setting at a time and nothing seems to work...so maybe I am retarded, maybe the board needs a bios update, or maybe it just is a dog for me (and you might have different results like Wes @ Anandtech did).

But for me....its a great board for stock speeds as it is very compatible and seems to boot with every memory I have.

But if I was going to choose it for overclocking...I would stick with the NF4 Lanparty, or wait for the Lanparty NF4 Expert, or the one I am REALLY looking forward to, our Lanparty RDX200 CF-BT (props to Tony/BigToe for his input on this board). I don't know if the Expert NF4 or the CF-BT ATI board is going to be good, better, worse, etc....but in the meantime, I am sticking to my NF4 Lanparty SLI-DR, and recommending it for overclocking.

I am recommending the RDX200 CF-DR to those who want a flashy board with decent features and ease of use in setting up.

keep in mind this is first generation, first run...so because I have had an easy time with it, does not mean you will, or that i found any of the issues that you guys will find...I've spent most of my time trying to overclock it, not playing any games or listening to music or any of the 'everyday' things that you all will use it for.

And as I stated earlier...my suggestion for you is to wait until we have had more time to play with the board....don't just run out and spend your money because it is new and a single review said that it is a decent board.

Being smart with your money is the most important thing you can do. If you have extra cash and want to check it out, by all means, buy one as they are good boards. If you don't have a lot of cash...then be patient and let the early-adopters come back and tell you what they think of the board.
po meni sve stoji....i posebno mi je drago vidjeti da nema problema s memorijom (iako se priča da "nevoli" hynix)
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