Windows Vista Ultimate - moj review

[nicko]

Ajd hvala ti
Mozda je i ja probam u dogledno vrijeme

[svebee]

meni radio LAN i Printer Sharing bez problema - bilo gotovo u doslovno 2 klika

[matrixcore]

Evo i ja na visti, vizalno je vau...ostalo...splasnulo odusevljenje...i naravski par pitanja
Google talk? itko uspio natjerat da radi?
Takodjer ulaz u gmail preko IE7 rezultira BSOD-om, samo ja ili generalni problem, i naravno poteze se pitanje firefoxa. Radi li na visti i ako radi moze li se preko njega uci u gmail bez problema? Eh i jos jedno pitanje, sve je lijepo instalirano osim zvuka (ploca iz siga) i tv kartice (takodjer u sigu). To poteze dva dodatna pitanja, s obzirom da pokusaj instalcije xp drivera od zvuka rezultira BSOD-om, moze li se to kako natjerat da radi ipitanje drugo, tv kartica, moze li se natjerat da radi?
Eto tolko od mene

EDIT: I jos jedno pitanje...radi li skype 3.0 na visti?
Tnx in advance

[SniperWolf]

Info o servisima .. sto isklj sto ne -> http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=513758

[Mr.Ex.President]

Baš san ga maloprije stavija. Prvi dojam je da je brz u pm, a i izgled

Al nije mi se dalo duže zadržavat, masu stvari su prominili, a neda mi se navikavatm kad uvatin malo više vrimena

[SniperWolf]

A ***g. Ja sam pol sata trazio neke najednostavnije stvari u control panelu pa cak i na classic jos uvijek ne kuzim zasto mi se monitor ugasi nakon nekog vremena away-a, de to ima da namjestim
trenutno sam si skurio vistu stavljanjem UXTheme Multi-Patcher-a, pobriso mi je aero.theme, neznam uopce ni kak da stavim area04 (obozavam!) jer ovaj prihavaca samo .theme datoteke..
dakle, NE stavljajte UXTheme Multi-Patcher na Vistu.
Trust me, I found out the hard way

[SniperWolf]

Day of defeat mi vrti na 30fps
gw jos nekako ide, ali ne tako brzo kao na xp..
najvijerojatnije je do nvidije i drivera :|
kakva je stvar sa ATi?
Jedva cekam da izdaju postene drivere za plocu, grafu, zvuk imam (tnx realtek)

[Mr.Ex.President]

Autor mat

e da, jos nesto, koliku ocjenu vam je komp dobio? ja sam dobio 4,2 - graficka. evo otprilike, po sjecanju moje ocjene:

Danas san ubra tu ocijenu i nisan kurca kužija šta znači. Sad san malo lista temu u nazad i ubra

Uglavnon u mene 4,5 sa konfon iz siga. Neman pojma kako stoje pojedinačne ocjene pošto san sad na XP-u

[matrixcore]

Hehhehe...meni je takodjer 4,5 sa konfom iz siga

[LAcy]

Ja imam izvrstan 5 sa tim da je to najniža ocjena i to procesora, navodno ima mali broj kalkulacija u sekundi : lol2 :

[9800pro]

Ne kužim ove ocjene, meni je najmanja bila 5.2 za memoriju a imam 2x512 ddr2 800. Kak onda neko dobi manju ocjenu a imaju više rama i još ktome radi na većoj frekvi. Sve je to kita, još malo pa će se svi natjecati u tim ocjenama. Što se mene tiće Vista je prenapuhani XP, dao sam si truda da je sredim ali opet nije to to. Malo mi je preveć to sve integrirano od strane Mikerosofta. Jedino kaj je dobro je Office 2007 na Visti, stvarno mrak al pošto ne koristim tak office puno ne isplati mi se stavljati Vistu samo zbog toga. Čisto sumnjam da se Vista ne može srediti da radi i troši resurse kao XP već sve je to čisti biznis, imaš ocjenu ispod 5 za neki dio i odmah bi trebao kupiti novi hardware da bi Vista bila zadovoljna. Dok se nešto generalno ne promjeni ja ostajem na XP-u, neki se drže za dx10 ko pijan plota al kad će izaći igrice koje skroz podržavaju dx10 i 8800gtx će biti preslaba.

[Imitator]

...što se tiće Viste (Ultimate)...moji dojmovi ...sve 5, ali mi je definitivno najjači novi search, radi fantastično!
zasada radi sve OK, čak nemam problema ni s bežičnom mrežom u stanu....
Što se tiće performansi, mogu samo reći da mi se starta brže od XP-a i sve što u njoj pokrenem (od programa koji rade), pokreće brže od XP-a!

Trenutno je koristim zajedno s XP-om, a kada izađe prvi SP definitivno prelazim samo nas Vistu!

[LAcy]

Autor 9800pro

neki se drže za dx10 ko pijan plota al kad će izaći igrice koje skroz podržavaju dx10 i 8800gtx će biti preslaba.

Ma koji to

Autor Imitator

...što se tiće Viste (Ultimate)...moji dojmovi ...sve 5, ali mi je definitivno najjači novi search, radi fantastično!
zasada radi sve OK, čak nemam problema ni s bežičnom mrežom u stanu....
Što se tiće performansi, mogu samo reći da mi se starta brže od XP-a i sve što u njoj pokrenem (od programa koji rade), pokreće brže od XP-a!

Trenutno je koristim zajedno s XP-om, a kada izađe prvi SP definitivno prelazim samo nas Vistu!

Koju verziju si instalirao? x86 ili x64? Ja sam x64 i nije baš da dijelim iste dojmove.

[zippo]

It's all too easy to get caught up in the million dollar marketing engine as we approach the consumer release of Windows Vista, so lets not forget that it isn't the second coming, and by all counts is an upgrade you can do without.


There are many lists out there on why to get Vista, so here's ours on why not to.

1. You don't actually need it -- No, think about this. Vista doesn't do anything you can't already do with XP. About the only significant shift requiring Vista is DirextX10, but as no titles support it yet and, according to John Carmack (the godfather of modern gaming) there's no need to yet either.

2. Cost $$ -- It's so blindingly obvious, most people will be blinded to it. You already have XP, and alternatives like Linux are free. If you really want to throw money away, go give it to a local charity.

3. On that note, it's outrageously overpriced -- at least in Australia. As revealed in the current APC, even after taking into account the profit margin Microsoft Australia previously applied to XP (as well as exchange rates, as you would expect), Australians are paying hundreds of dollars more for their copies than in the US. In fact, it's cheaper for Australians to buy Vista direct by mail order from the States. If you think Microsoft Australia is reaming us, vote with your wallet.

4. Upgrading hardware -- XP was demanding at release, but Vista more so. If you have an older machine that struggles with XP at the best of times, Vista is out of your ballpark unless you spend even more money to upgrade. If this is you, see point 1.

5. Driver support -- Key hardware like video and sound is crippled at the moment -- while Nvidia is working furiously to get a stable driver for the 8800 out by the 30th, there's still no SLI support for any of the Nvidia range. And thanks to the removal of hardware accelerated 3D sound in Vista, Creative's popular DirectSound based EAX no longer works at all, muting this feature for just about all gaming titles on the market today. Creative is in the process of coding a layer for its drivers to translate EAX calls to the OpenAL API which is seperate from Vista, but going by past experience with Creative drivers we won't see these any time soon.

6. Applications that don't work -- there's been plenty of coverage about applications that won't work without a vendor update. These include anti-virus, backup and security software such as those from Symantec, Sophos and ilk; CD and DVD burning tools like the suite from Nero need updated versions to work; and even basic disk management and partitioning tools such as Paragon's Hard Disk Manager are awaiting an update for Vista to be compatible. How many more will fail as Vista enters mainstream? Even Firefox has issues with Vista.

7. It's a big fat target -- with a new and untested in the global wild architecture, virus and malware authors are going to work overtime exploiting the holes Microsoft missed. In fact it's already happening. Loath though I am to use the word 'security' and 'Windows' in the same sentence, Windows XP has at least been patched to the hilt and can be used with a plethora of reasonably effective security tools that work now, without waiting for an update down the track.

8. UAC -- Oh yes, the Microsoft solution for an operating system where mutli-user was an afterthought. Sure, you can disable it, but the OS then makes it clear then that the onus is on the user for any damaging programs that got to run with permissions, rather than with Windows in the first place. If you do have it on, it is going to annoy the hell out of you. It pops up far too frequently, and even on a fast PC, the UAC screen takes too long to come up and disappear.

9. DRM -- And to a lesser degree TPM -- were made for the RIAAs and MPAAs of this world, and the even tighter integration of copy protection mechanisms and 'Windows Rights Management' into vista are nothing more than a liability to you, the user. This ComputerWorld piece says is succinctly: 'it's hard to sing the praises of technology designed to make life harder for its users.' As for TPM, this short animated video shows just how far the rabbit hole goes. And to think you pay for the privilege of having the use of media you purchased and own dictated by third parties, even on your own system.

10. The draconian license -- somehow, Microsoft has forgotten that it built its business from products that empowered its customers, not hampered them. Of course, we forget that Microsoft's customers aren't you and I, afterall (see point 9). Aside from the backward thinking that is licensing, and not actually owning, your software new terms with Vista include being able to transfer the license only once; half the limit compared to XP for Home Basic and Premium on how many machines can connect to yours for sharing, printing and accessing the Internet; limits on the number of devices that can use Vista's Media Center features; activation and validation governing your ability to upgrade hardware and use Windows itself; and outlawing the use of Home Basic and Premium with virtualisation software, and Ultimate only if DRM enabled content and applications aren't used. But then again, who reads these anyway?

Related article: 10 reasons you should get Vista

source: apcmag

[vlincx]

Jel zna kako je rješena licenca jel se veže na hardware ili na osobu

[LAcy]

Autor vlincx

Jel zna kako je rješena licenca jel se veže na hardware ili na osobu

Na osobnu Šalim se naravno, zapravo bi bilo fer da se veže na osobu ovako je sranje kad promijeniš komp ili dio (barem je tako bilo).

[Danijel1803]

Moj Windows Experiemce Index s konfom iz siga ;

[LAcy]

Eto ga počelo je takmičenje tko će imati veći index

[Mr.Ex.President]

Koji je max uopće ? Ja san mislija da je 5

[Smartguy]

5.9

Dobio sam max i na procu i na memoriji(naravno OCom) ali grafička ne ide više od 2.3

[nino]

Moja iz sig-a 5,2 : stoopid

[vlincx]

Autor Smartguy

5.9

Dobio sam max i na procu i na memoriji(naravno OCom) ali grafička ne ide više od 2.3

Al onda ti nije windows expirence 5.9 nego 2.3 jer kolko sam shvatio mjeri se po najnižem broju.

Ja imam skromnih 5.3 najslabija karika je slabašni procesor e6400 dok memorija i grafika su po 5.9 a hard 5.4

[BlackDwarf]

Meni je memorija odnijela 4,1 dok graficka 2,5. Na staroj R9550 rezultat je 3,6.

[Mr.Ex.President]

Ne radi mi WinRar 3.61. Tj radi al se neda ''kupit''
Net Limiter 2.0.9.1 radi, al mislim da se sistem jednon srušija baš zbog njega

ADSL modem ( Kasda - USB ) ne mogu instalirat… pri instalaciji BSOD :mad:
Za skener je reka da nije podržan, al san ručno nekako instalira
NF4 drivere san stavlja ručno, mislim da je sve prošle bez greške
Tv karticu nisan još probava
Kao ni grafičku. Koje je najbolje rješenje za ATI ?

Printer je instalira bez problema
Miša je instalira bez problema

Najviše me ***e NET, ne mogu ništa u Visti radit ako neman neta :mad:
Trenutno stanje


Ako ko ima kakvo rješenje neka viče

[domy_os]

Kod lege je automatski prepoznao da je DSL modem na LAN-u, ja samo napravio konekciju i to je to...

[Mr.Ex.President]

Autor domy_os

Kod lege je automatski prepoznao da je DSL modem na LAN-u, ja samo napravio konekciju i to je to...

Isti modem ? Ja ga doduše držim na USB-u.
Hm, a ništa iden nać legu

[domy_os]

Kod nas u Osijeku "lega" znači kolega ili prijatelj... : lol2 :

Probaj spojit na LAN, trebalo bi šljakat.

[Mr.Ex.President]

Autor domy_os

Kod nas u Osijeku "lega" znači kolega ili prijatelj... : lol2 :

Probaj spojit na LAN, trebalo bi šljakat.

Za ovu glupost zaslužujen karton
Da si reka ''prika'' zna bi na šta ciljaš.


Mogu spojit na LAN, al onda gubim kućnu mrežu... ( bar dok ne saznan zašto me drugi LAN utor na DFI-u ***e )

Nego fala

[coconut]

Probaj prebacit Kasdu u router mode i onda bi trebalo šljakati i net i kućna mreža.

[LAcy]

Evo mene sa Vista x64 Ultimate kroz IE 64bitni jer još nisam FF instalirao. Za sad radi ok, ovo je druga instalacija i možda uspješnija od prve. Nekako kao da je vrijeme stalo