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Staro 13.07.2024., 13:09   #3421
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Dap, preporucujem hibernate, nikad s njim problema.
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Staro 13.07.2024., 17:07   #3422
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I’ve read this article several times now, and I’m still not entirely sure how to properly summarise the main points without leaving important details out. If you really boil it down to the very bare essentials, which packages get updates on which Ubuntu release is a confusing mess that most normal users will never be able to understand, potentially leaving them vulnerable to security flaws that have already been widely patched and are available on Ubuntu – just not your specific Ubuntu version, your specific customer type, or the specific package type in question.
So, in the case of McPhail here, they needed a patched version of tomcat 9 for Ubuntu 22.04. This patched version was available for Ubuntu 18.04 users because not only is 18.04 an LTS release – meaning five years of support – Canonical also offers a commercial Extended Security Maintenance (ESM) subscription for 18.04, so if you’re paying for that, you get the patched tomcat9. On Ubuntu 20.04, another LTS release, the patched version of tomcat9 is available for everyone, but for the version McPhail is running, the newer LTS release 22.04, it’s only available for Ubuntu Pro subscribers (24.04 is not affected, so not relevant for this discussion). Intuitively, this doesn’t make any sense.
The main cause of the weird discrepancy between 20.04 and 22.04 is that Canonical’s LTS support only covers the packages in main (about 10% of the total amount of packages), whereas tomcat9 lives in universe (90% of packages). LTS packages in universe are only supported on a “best effort” basis, and one of the ways a patched universe package can be made available to non-paying LTS users is if it is inhereted from Debian, which happens to be the case for tomcat9 in 20.04, while in 22.04, it’s considered part of an Ubuntu Pro subscription.
So, there’s a fixed package, but 22.04 LTS users, who may expect LTS to truly mean LTS, don’t get the patched version that exists and is ready to go without issues. Wild.
This is incredibly confusing, and would make me run for the Debian hills before my next reboot. I understand maintaining packages is a difficult, thankless task, but the nebulousness here is entirely of Canonical’s own making, and it’s without a doubt leaving users vulnerable who fully expect to be safe and all patched up because they’re using an LTS release.

Samo jedan od razloga zasto mi se dize kosa na glavi kad netko zeli Ubuntu goniti na serverima...
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Staro 14.07.2024., 16:54   #3423
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Zato treba samo gonit main distre. Malo, malo neki se ovakvi specijalci pojave.
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Staro 14.07.2024., 18:50   #3424
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Malo se igram dalje sa Wayland+CUDA i čini se da sve radi kako spada. Prema nazivu paketa koji uključuje "xorg-x11" sam naprečac skočio na zaključak da bude nek problem. I nije ga bilo. Dodatno je zanimljivo da je CUDA paket na fedori 180 MB dok je na manjaru bio 1.2 GB, pretpostavljam da je ondje bilo više toga uključeno?

Kako bilo, fedora nema niti onaj problem s korupcijom VRAMa tako da aplikacije preživljavaju sleep. Ipak nije sleep takav bauk.

Cijeli vikend se igram s generativnim modeila (image to text i image to image) i mogu kazati da je ovo sranje baš jako disruptivno. Dok je samo pisanje text promptova samo po sebi oblik umjetnosti, može se jako brzo dobiti solidan do odličan artwork, u x iteracija. Neki detalji dosta kiksaju (tekst, mehanizmi, ruke, lica) ali to se dade popraviti.

Evo par primjera. Tek se na ovoj zadnjoj sličici daju primijetiti neki ozbiljniji problemi (grana ispred mjeseca se prekida te makar jedna kandža dolje desno je van gabarita)
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Moja 1070 GPU nije baš neko čudo s ovime pa me sada opet svrbi da bih uzeo neku noviju grafičku
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Malo se igram dalje sa Wayland+CUDA i čini se da sve radi kako spada.
Kakve veze CUDA ima s time koji protokol koristis za display, kada je to, jel... compute.

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Cijeli vikend se igram s generativnim modeila (image to text i image to image) i mogu kazati da je ovo sranje baš jako disruptivno.
Uf, a tek kada otkrijes inpaint, ControlNet i ostale pizdarije... Trebat ce ti novi disk za sve CivitAI modele.

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Moja 1070 GPU nije baš neko čudo s ovime pa me sada opet svrbi da bih uzeo neku noviju grafičku
Kod mene je zbog slicnih stvari (nije mi toliko SD vise napet) sletila RTX A5000, a vec gledam kako da se dokopam jos jedne zajedno sa NVLink mostom... Da ne pricam kako je bilo i jos ludjih ideja.
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We’re now at a point where transitioning fully to the open-source GPU kernel modules is the right move, and we’re making that change in the upcoming R560 driver release.
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WAAAAT!!!!!????

Ovo je sigurno laž, netko mu je hakira account.
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Ako je to točna info, sigurno imaju neki dobar fin. razlog za to napraviti
A to sigurno nije ovih par % korisnika koji se igraju na PCu
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Ako je to točna info, sigurno imaju neki dobar fin. razlog za to napraviti
A to sigurno nije ovih par % korisnika koji se igraju na PCu

Bas sam pito Babu Vangu - kaze baba - AIJI! Al kak god - ako se OSS driveri pokazu jednaki kvalitetom i performansama onome sto AMD nudi - i'm all in Makar ce iduca grafa vjerojatno biti najbicnija integrusa u mom slucaju
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tužno, ali istinito.
mislim da su dani diskretnih grafičkih iza mene
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Bas sam pito Babu Vangu - kaze baba - AIJI! Al kak god - ako se OSS driveri pokazu jednaki kvalitetom i performansama onome sto AMD nudi - i'm all in Makar ce iduca grafa vjerojatno biti najbicnija integrusa u mom slucaju

Aaaa... ja davno prešao na integruše, preferabilno intel radi drivera, stabilnosti i potrošnje.
A sjeti se koliko je AMDu trebalo kad je otpilio proprietary i krenuo otvarati drivere da to skocka malo.
Imao sam tu nesreću da sam imao integrušu AMD APU u doba kad su prtljali s onim "islands" gpuima i u jednom trenutku sam izvisio - AMD otpilio njihov blob, na novoj verziji xorga i kernela radi samo radeonsi driver koji je bio u povojima... i tako narednih nekoliko godina dok se nije skockao radeonsi, pa došao amdgpu koji naravno nije bio official za moj APU (jerbo prestar) i eto bio sam pehista i nabo gpu generaciju koja nikad nije bila dobro podržana.
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Aaaa... ja davno prešao na integruše, preferabilno intel radi drivera, stabilnosti i potrošnje.
A sjeti se koliko je AMDu trebalo kad je otpilio proprietary i krenuo otvarati drivere da to skocka malo.
Imao sam tu nesreću da sam imao integrušu AMD APU u doba kad su prtljali s onim "islands" gpuima i u jednom trenutku sam izvisio - AMD otpilio njihov blob, na novoj verziji xorga i kernela radi samo radeonsi driver koji je bio u povojima... i tako narednih nekoliko godina dok se nije skockao radeonsi, pa došao amdgpu koji naravno nije bio official za moj APU (jerbo prestar) i eto bio sam pehista i nabo gpu generaciju koja nikad nije bila dobro podržana.

Jep. AMD je imao katastofa drivere - OSS i Closed Source. Zato sam uvijek ganjao nvidia grafulje do pred par godina sa sluzbenim nvidia driverom. Osim stucavica sa Optimusom sa sluzbenim driverima nisam imao nikakvih problema. Tu i tamo sam sprobao AMD grafu (HD 5770 je bila zadnja ak me sjecanje dobro sluzi) i nisam bio odusevljen. Zato sam kod trenutnog kompa namjernuo uzeo APU da vidim kak sljaka , par mjeseci nakon toga punokrvnu grafulju da tu i tam ipak nekaj odigram i iskreno - nisam ni sekunde pozalio. Pogotovo od kad je Wayland go-to standard. It just works .
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Kao i za sve drugo - trebalo je vremena. Svojedobno su developeri pali na guzicu kad im je AMD iskrcao ogroman paket koda naslijeđen iz starih drivera po principu evo tu vam je, snađite se. doslovno su morali otpiliti koju generaciju i posvetiti se novijem hardveru.
Nvidia ako otvori kod (vjerojatnije samo dio), trebati će isto dosta vremena prije nego to uđe u kernel.
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Nvidia ako otvori kod (vjerojatnije samo dio), trebati će isto dosta vremena prije nego to uđe u kernel.

Yep. Trebat ce vremena da se pokazu rezultati. AL je barem prvi korak u boljem smjeru. Zasad
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