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Staro 19.10.2022., 11:32   #421
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Ovo se kupuje samo kao kulturni artefakt, da bi cca u anno 2040. u "mint in box" stanju prodao za masnu cijenu nekom entuzijastičnom mladom nerdu koji voli sve što je egzotično, a povezano s kultnim firmama.
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Staro 19.10.2022., 11:33   #422
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Nadam se da im je ovo bio dobar feedback i da će battlemage biti punokrvna arhitektura.
IMHO to je sve već interno otkazano kak i glasine diljem Interneta pričaju, ali OK - možda naprave nekaj iz toga, pod uvjetom da sad s ovim otkazima ne otprave sve Rajine mudrolije osim serverskih ARC GPU komada tehnike.
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Ovo se kupuje samo kao kulturni artefakt, da bi cca u anno 2040. u "mint in box" stanju prodao za masnu cijenu nekom entuzijastičnom mladom nerdu koji voli sve što je egzotično, a povezano s kultnim firmama.
Bome tak bude i ispalo.
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Staro 19.10.2022., 11:41   #423
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Iako za ove otkaze nisu naveli koje divizije, GPU divizija je nekako najlogičniji potez, sisač novca, a rezultata nema, no opet s druge strane mjesta za 3 igrača u gpu segmentu ima, i to je dugoročna igra.
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Staro 19.10.2022., 12:08   #424
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Otkazi najvećim dijelom pogađaju odjel prodaje i marketinga diljem Intela, pa ko zna, možda Ryan Shrout ode negde dalje prodavati maglu.
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Staro 19.10.2022., 12:30   #425
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Otkazi najvećim dijelom pogađaju odjel prodaje i marketinga diljem Intela, pa ko zna, možda Ryan Shrout ode negde dalje prodavati maglu.
Zbog silnog ulaganja u taj odjel su se i doveli u tu poziciju u kojoj su sad, to im je prolazilo dok se AMD sastavljao, tada su trebali samo podmićivati recenzente i proizvođače računala da ignoriraju AMD, no kako se AMD sastavio i udara ih na svim frontovima morali su početi ulagati u hardversku diviziju, nuditi konkretne proizvode umjesto pljuvanja i smještanja konkurenciji.
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Staro 24.10.2022., 18:23   #426
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Staro 15.11.2022., 19:07   #427
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Ima li kakvih informacija o battlemage-u? I hoće li preživiti GPU divizija, treba nam više nego ikad dobar Intel u gpu segmentu.
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Zaposlili su još PR i marketing stručnjaka, tak da je sad sve po planu.
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Vivian Lien joins Intel to build ARC discrete Graphics Business
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Vivian Lien has announced that she has joined Intel’s Visual Compute Group. Lien was most recently a VP of Alienware and Dell Gaming, but became a name at the forefront of PC industry marketing during her lengthy spell at Asus. In her new position, Lien aims to build the fortunes of the Intel Arc discrete graphics business, and she looks like a good choice for this role. Incidentally, this high profile appointment looks like another nail in the coffin to the rumors suggesting the demise or running down of the Intel Arc discrete graphics business.
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Staro 15.11.2022., 21:59   #429
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O boze.
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Staro 07.12.2022., 11:07   #430
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Staro 07.12.2022., 14:39   #431
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DX9? Lagano su u zakašnjenju
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Staro 07.12.2022., 15:33   #432
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A smiješno je, ali valjda zbog CS:GO su im prigovarali... Ne znam drugu DX9 igru u kojoj su relevantne performanse.
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Staro 07.12.2022., 18:49   #433
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Nije samo dx9 nego je u principu sve što nije dx12

https://youtu.be/h6R92qyjGQ4?t=557

Katastrofa što oni prodaju kao grafičku karticu


Inače, zapravo postoji jedan program DXVK, koji emulira dx9/10/11 u vulkan. Kažu ljudi da radi dobro, čak možeš igrati Gta4 na Arcu
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Staro 07.12.2022., 19:44   #434
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Samo potvrda da je ova prva generacija public beta testing, trebali su kartice dijeliti besplatno i onda prikupljati feedback, no kako god nadam se da će battlemage biti finalni ispolirani proizvod na temelju odličnog feedbacka prve generacije.
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Intel nažalost ima puno većih problema od ARC GPU divizije.
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Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. (TSMC) has more than tripled its overall investment in Arizona to about $40 billion for two chip facilities with the support of customers like Apple and AMD, stoking a U.S. effort to revive domestic chip production. The world’s largest chip foundry said its second fab at a site near Phoenix is slated to start production at the 3nm node in 2026. When it starts, the project will make the most advanced chips in the U.S. The CEOs of TSMC’s largest customers, including Apple, AMD and nVidia, joined a Dec. 6 event in Arizona to mark the occasion.*Apple CEO Tim Cook and AMD CEO Lisa Su said their companies plan to source chips from TSMC in Arizona. AMD, one of TSMC’s top-five customers, also gave the Arizona project a vote of confidence.

“As the leader in semiconductor manufacturing, TSMC enables us to focus on what we do best: designing innovative chips that change the world,” Su said in a statement provided to EE Times. “AMD expects to be a significant user of the TSMC Arizona fabs and we look forward to building our highest-performance chips in the United States.” Apple and AMD are TSMC’s largest customers. TSMC’s increased investment comes as other chipmakers are cutting expenditures amid an industry downturn. The Taiwan company’s decision demonstrates its confidence in the U.S.. While TSMC adds jobs and investment, rival Intel is doing the opposite, according to Bob O’Donnell, chief analyst at Technalysis Research.

“Intel is cutting investment and jobs primarily because of its still-strong dependence on the PC market, whereas TSMC is making chips for all types of markets,” he said. “In addition, TSMC has an incredibly strong foundry business, while Intel is still just building it up from scratch.” When complete, TSMC’s two fabs in Arizona will manufacture over 600,000 wafers per year, with an estimated end-product value of more than $40 billion, according to the company. TSMC Arizona’s first fab, originally targeting the 5nm node for initial production, is now scheduled to start output at 4nm in 2024. TSMC Arizona’s two fabs are expected to create an additional 10,000 high-paying high-tech jobs, including 4,500 direct TSMC jobs.
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Staro 21.12.2022., 18:20   #436
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U Intelu i dalje sve po planu.
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Intel announced today that it would split its AXG graphics group to separately address the gaming and data center markets by placing it under two other business units. Raja Koduri, currently the Executive Vice President of the AXG business unit, will return to his previous role as an Intel Chief Architect. We spoke with Intel, and the company assures us that it remains fully committed to its existing roadmap of Arc consumer discrete GPUs, meaning it intends to launch the second-gen Battlemage and third-gen Celestial gaming GPUs as planned. Those GPUs will join the recently launched Alchemist series, which will also continue to be supported.

Intel’s Raja Koduri led AXG but will now return to his previous role as an Intel Chief Architect. Koduri will work on high-performance technical programs with an eye on driving the integration of GPU, CPU, and AI architectures, a key initiative considering products like Falcon Shores and Intel’s Zettascale ambitions. Naturally, this realignment of the GPU group will raise concerns that Intel plans to sunset its consumer gaming GPU business. The bar for a new GPU maker is high — Intel is the first new discrete GPU player in 25 years — and it’s no secret that the Arc gaming GPUs arrived to market later than expected, so they face a tough competitive environment that finds them trailing Nvidia and AMD’s products. Much of that disparity has been blamed on lackluster launch-day drivers, but that has improved in recent months. The market conditions also aren’t favorable because of a GPU oversupply that comes after several years of crypto-driven shortages.
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U Intelu i dalje sve po planu.
Klasicni za prigodu :

" Šetaju Mujo i Haso po selu i naiđu na govno. Mujo će Hasi:
- Haso, bil ti pojeo ovo govno za 1000 eura?
Misli Haso:
- Jeste gadno, ali malo se potrpim i poslije mi ostane 1000 eura u džepu. Pristajem!
Pojede Haso govno, uzme 1000 eura od Muje i nastave hodati. Opet Haso misli:
- Za 1000 eura i nije bilo tako gadno, samo je problem da će Mujo razglasiti po cijelom selu da sam pojeo govno i svi će me zezati do kraja života.
Misli i Mujo:
- E jesam glup! Ovaj se malo potrpio dok je pojeo govno i sada ima mojih 1000 eura. Hodajući tako naiđu na drugo govno i Haso će:
- Mujo, a bil ti pojeo ovo govno za 1000 euro?
- Bih!
I tako Mujo pojede govno i Haso mu dadne 1000 eura. Nastave hodati, kad će Haso:
- E moj Mujo što smo blesavi: obojca smo pojeli po govno, a niko ništa nije zaradio.
- Nema veze Haso, važno je da se pare okreću
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Šou samo takav, Raja Koduri je prošle godine promaknut, pa se promptno kreirala AXG divizija, samo da bi sada cijelu stvar rastavili na sastavne dijelove, dok se Raja vraća u rikverc.
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AXG revenues are up slightly, but the group will continue to lose money for a couple of years to come until Intel has fully broken into the market and is shipping client and server GPUs in large volumes. Intel's Accelerated Computing Systems and Graphics Group (AXG) earnings grew to $185 million from $171 million in the same quarter a year ago. It happened not because the company finally started to ship its long-awaited discrete graphics processors for desktops, laptops, and servers but because of a 'custom compute product ramp.' While Intel does not name the product, we might speculate that the device in question could be Intel's cryptocurrency mining chip. While Ponte Vecchio compute GPU is now in production, Intel did not announce its volume shipments, so it is likely that a cryptocurrency mining chip drove AXG's results.
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It looks like Raja Koduri will be out of action for what is likely to be at least a month since he posted on Twitter that he's had emergency back surgery while on a business trip.
Moram priznati da Rajina trenutna situacija jako podsjeća na onu otprije pet godina kad se također nije baš najbolje osjećal, prije službenog odlaska iz AMD-a.
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Jel bi se isplatilo ovu uzet? Asrock Intel Arc A770 Phantom Gaming D 8GB OC.

Jel ima tko nju ili neku slično, jesu li riješili što od problema do danas?
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Nekog vraga su popravili s novim driverima, ali moral budeš sam odlučiti da li se isplati kupiti, jer i dalje je to nivo performansi kakve su Radeon i GeForce kartice nudile prije više od dvije godine.

I ostaje pitanje da li će Intel obzirom na njihovu cjelokupnu situaciju uopće održati ARC GPU na životu dovoljno dugo da krajnji korisnici imaju službeno podržani komad hardvera.
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U ovom trenutku lakše je nabrojati kaj nisu otkazali ili odgodili.
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Intel Axes Rialto Bridge GPUs, Delays Falcon Shores to 2025
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Jeff McVeigh, the VP and GM of Intel's super compute group, announced today via a blog post that Intel is canceling its upcoming Rialto Bridge series of data center Max GPUs and moving to a two-year cadence for data center GPU releases. Therefore the company's next data center GPU offerings will come in the form of the Falcon Shores chiplet-based hybrid chips, but the blog notes these will be in production in 2025 — a year later than Intel's previous projections of 2024. These were supposed to arrive as a CPU+GPU architecture in 2024, meaning Intel's positioning against competing AMD and nVidia products, both of which will launch this year, is severely impacted — Intel will now be multiple years late to a key architectural inflection point for the highest-end chips. Additionally, Intel will cancel its upcoming Lancaster Sound GPU for its Flex Series of data center GPUs. These GPUs are designed for lower-intensity work, like media encoding. Instead of pushing forward with Lancaster Sound, Intel will focus on the next-gen Melville Sound products for the Flex series.

Intel tells us that the delayed Falcon Shores will first come with only GPU cores in 2025, but hasn't indicated when it will integrate CPU cores into the design. As such, Intel's HPC-centric designs will lag behind its competitors for several years. Additionally, Intel will be forced to compete with AMD and nVidia's HPC-centric designs with its Xeon CPUs and Ponte Vecchio GPUs for several years, a significant disadvantage. Intel's current-gen Ponte Vecchio GPUs were meant to be followed by Rialto Bridge, the planned next-gen data center GPU slated for 2023. That won't happen now, so Intel will be forced to use Ponte Vecchio to compete with nVidia's Hopper H100, a key shortcoming at a time when LLMs like ChatGPT are coming to the fore and driving billions in Capex investments.
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U ovom trenutku lakše je nabrojati kaj nisu otkazali ili odgodili.

Intel - just wait .
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Da, više ništa nije čudno kad je Intel u pitanju, a sve kaj su najavili je odgođeno, kompletno otkazano ili prodano, dok direktor i marketing sve uvjeravaju kak je to po planu i programu.
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Plan otkazivanja i odgoda nije javno dostupan, to je samo za internu upotrebu i po njemu i nadalje ide sve po planu.
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Super je kak cijelo vrijeme stvaraju tzv. hype oko svih tih proizvoda, samo da bi ih onda promptno otkazali ili odgodili, kao da ih nije bilo diljem hrpe PowerPoint prezentacija.

Desktop ARC GPU bude samo jednog dana kompletno nestal (ionak nije ni sad u nekoj bajnoj situaciji), jer puno bitniji dio HPC priče sad odjednom više nije po planu i programu.
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I kak baš sad kad im sve ide po planu i programu, odlazi jedan od najbitnijih ljudi u ionako za Intel nikad važnijoj Xe GPU diviziji.

Glorificirani prodavač magle Raja Koduri opet i po ko zna koji put ide u neku novu firmu, gdje će se njegovo znanje i talent promptno staviti u pogon.
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Pričal sam na početku ove teme da će Raja u najboljem slučaju odigrati RTG foru i Intel će na temelju toga imati neki HPC GPU proizvod uz pokoje mobilno GPU rješenje i sad stvarno tak ispada, jer HPC GPU moraju imati za jedino superračunalo koje su obećali opremiti i koje je već par puta odgođeno radi Intelovih planova i programa, tj. nedostatka istih. Prvom prilikom kad to isporuče, to je to. Raja, fala i doviđenja. Uz sve rečeno, posljednih dana kruže glasine da je Rajina GPU divizija mrtvo slovo na papiru, te da ljudi masovno odlaze, neki ponovno u AMD otkud su došli nakon kaj ih je Raja vrboval u Intel.
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Ma taj frajer je muljator samo takav, ali takvi su sad u većini u Intelu, pa nek se vesele. Na kraju bude ispalo da je Raja kuhal kave, dok je netko drugi radil na GPU arhitekturama, a ovaj je na kraju pobral vrhnje. Otkad je ova tema otvorena i čim je objavljeno da Raja ide u Intel, komentirali smo da bude ARC GPU na neki način ispal zajeb i ovo danas je još gore. Sve u svemu, obzirom na trenutnu situaciju, IMHO Intel prvom prilikom gasi ARC GPU, Raja odlazi zajedno s Ryanom Shroutom u potrazi za novim naivcima. Sudeći na drivere, bojim se da bude i ovo ispalo istina. Nažalost. Jebo ih driveri koji kompletno skrše cijeli OS.
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Ovo za drajvere me inače dobrano začudilo jer Intel ima dosta jaku ekipu koja vodi brigu o drajverima, ne samo za ARC kartice, tu je cijela linija iGPU proizvoda koji dobro funkcioniraju (uz performanse takve kakve jesu), od servera, laptopa pa do stolnih računala.
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Staro 22.03.2023., 10:47   #449
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Da, ali oni su te iste iGPU drivere prema riječima direktora i Raje muljatora uzeli kao podlogu za dGPU ARC modele, pa vidimo kak je sve skupa završilo.

Mislim, pa Raja da je do samog kraja tvrdil da je sve OK, nema nikakvih otkazivanja i odgađanja proizvoda. Intel sada ima sve samo ne kredibilitet.
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Raja is a visionary. He paints a great and compelling picture of the gaming future and features that are required to drive the gaming experience to the next level. He’s great at that.
As far as hands-on silicon execution, his background is in software. He definitely helped AMD to improve our software game and feature sets.
Izvor: Sam Naffziger, AMD senior vice president, corporate fellow and product technology architect
I tak, ode Raja stručLJak za GPU koji u svakoj firmi, uključujući Intel koji ima neograničene resurse, na neku foru uvijek ima problema s isporukom najavljenog. Ništa čudno da je dobil otkaz prek Twittera.
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Staro 22.03.2023., 10:51   #450
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Majoj dok ti se Raja vrati u AMD kak budeš sretan.
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