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Staro 23.12.2021., 22:35   #511
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Slotovi 1,2 su Extenderi 16x na 16x shielded i grafe direkt u 3 i 7 za sada, slot 6 jos dostupan ( sve grafe su 2.5 slota tako da su extenderi jedino rjesenje.
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Koliko god AMD bio dobar za mainstream platformu i servere, toliko u HEDT segmentu pokazuju da su isti kao i Intel. Nema konkurencije = nema novih proizvoda. HEDT Zen 3 Threadripperi dolaze godinu dana nakon Zen 3 Epyc procesora, tj. debelo kasne. 5000 serija je već trebala imati 3D cache. Ne vjerujem da se Threadripperi Pro prodaju u toliko velikim količinama da bi stvarali problem za dostupnost Epyc procesora.
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Tr Pro nije konkurencija Epycu jer je samo single socket i sasvim drugacija platforma/maticne a u drugu ruku "ubili" su Xeone cak i dual socket konfama.

U biti cini mi se da su dugo vijecali interno sta da rade sa obicnim TRom pa su shvatili da im netreba pored Pro verzije.
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Tr Pro nije konkurencija Epycu jer je samo single socket i sasvim drugacija platforma/maticne a u drugu ruku "ubili" su Xeone cak i dual socket konfama.
U biti cini mi se da su dugo vijecali interno sta da rade sa obicnim TRom pa su shvatili da im netreba pored Pro verzije.
Evo izgleda da ipak idu na dual socket platformu..
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Staro 05.01.2022., 16:07   #515
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AMD’s Monstrous EPYC Genoa CPU For SP5 ‘LGA 6096’ Socket Pictured:
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AMD EPYC 9000 “Genoa” processor lineup leaks out, up to 96 Zen 4 cores and 360W TDP
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AMD's EPYC CPU lineup has propelled AMD from being, essentially, a no-name brand within the enterprise CPU market into one of the fastest growing creators of high-performance processors. With Genoa, AMD's next-generation EPYC processors, AMD plans to continue that growth, and we have just gotten a look at some pre-launch CPU specifications for these upcoming processors. We have seen a list of pre-launch EPYC 9000 series processors, Zen 4 CPUs that will use AMD's new SP5 enterprise CPU socket and feature support for up to 12 DDR5 memory channels, and PCIe 5.0 connectivity. 18 models have been showcased, ranging from models with 16 cores to models with 96 cores and from TDPs of 200W to TDPs of 360W.

AMD's highest-end Genoa SKU appears to be a 360W 96-core, 192-thread processor that features 384MB of cache and clock speeds of between 2.0 GHz and 2.15 GHz. This model is the EPYC 9654P, and it is possible that AMD has a higher performance Genoa CPU model in the works. With AMD's EPYC 9000 series processors, AMD apparently plans to deliver users core count options of 16 cores, 24 cores, 32 cores, 48 cores, 64 cores and 96 cores. Variants of these processors will feature different clock speeds and cache amounts, with AMD's highest clocking model bosting to. 3.8 GHz.

AMD plans to launch their Zen 4 EPYC processors before the end of 2022, and in the future AMD plans to release more Zen 4 EPYC series CPUs in the form of Genoa-X, which should feature 3D V-Cache. AMD's Zen 4 EPYC processors are now said to be "production ready", though at this time the pricing of AMD's newest EPYC series processors are unknown. We can expect AMD to market heavily how much value their new EPYC lineup offers when compared to Intel's latest Xeon processors in various workloads, focusing on TOC (Total Cost of Ownership) and unit pricing.
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AMD EPYC 9004 “Genoa-X” and “Bergamo” CPUs SKU lists leaks out, EPYC 9754 features 128 Zen4c cores
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AMD is yet to officially launch its Genoa data-center CPU series. The company also announced it is working on seperate series with 3D V-Cache and also density optimized Zen4c series. Both of those products have been included into the new, quite long, one should add, lineup of server CPUs. The naming convention for 9004 and 8004 series of Zen4 CPUs will be divided into two sockets: SP5 for 9004 series and SP6 for 8004. The new series will go range from 8 to 128 cores, but 112 and 128 configurations will be reserved to Zen4 based Bergamo CPUs. In fact, only the core count will tell customers if they are buying Bergamo or Genoa because the latter simply does not go above 96 cores.

Similarly to Milan-X, the upcoming Genoa-X series with 3D V-Cache will also carry the X moniker, differentiating it from P (1 socket) and F (high frequency) Genoa CPUs. Configurable TDP will vary from 200 to 400W depending on the model, however the high-core count and high-frequency variants are all above 290W. The EPYC 9754 “Bergamo” is to feature 128 Zen4C cores (with a stripped-down L3 cache) and up to 256 MB of L3 Cache. This CPU will boost up to 3.2 GHz and will have a TDP of 360W. With 16 cores fewer, there is EPYC 9734 with identical boost clock but also 40W lower TDP.

AMD is preparing four Genoa-X CPU, offering up to 96 cores, with the flagship part called 9684X featuring 96 cores and massive 1.1 GB of L3 Cache. This part has a TDP of 400W, which is the highest TDP from all 4th Gen EPYC CPUs.
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The cloud-oriented lineup succeeding Bergamo will push the core counts as high as 160. In other words, up to 20 eight-core CCDs. That’s a sizable jump from the 128-core Bergamo chips (with 16 CCDs) set to land early next year. The successor to Bergamo will likely leverage the Zen 5c core with a stripped-down L3 cache and lower clocks. These cores will be fabbed eight on the TSMC N4 4nm or the N3 3nm process node, thereby allowing for higher logic densities. Moving to Intel’s roadmap, Sapphire Rapids-SP is slated to land later this year, followed by Emerald Rapids-SP in 2023 (but in reality, 2024). The former will top out at 56 to 60 cores (depending on yields) plus the HBM variants while the latter will allegedly increase it to 64, a far cry from the 96-core powered AMD EPYC Genoa processors. These two Xeon lineups will consist of Golden Cove and Raptor Cove cores fabbed on the 7nm node. Meanwhile, the Sierra Forest family featuring the Gracemont (E-cores) will pack up to 128 cores, putting up a healthy fight against AMD’s Bergamo offerings, that is if they actually launch the same year. The Xeon-next parts should double down on the core front too but it’ll be the launch schedule that will determine their competitiveness.
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AMD launches 4th Gen EPYC "Genoa" Zen 4 server processors: 100% performance uplift for 50% more cores
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AMD at a special media event titled "together we advance_data centers," formally launched its 4th generation EPYC "Genoa" server processors based on the "Zen 4" microarchitecture. These processors debut an all new platform, with modern I/O connectivity that includes PCI-Express Gen 5, CXL, and DDR5 memory. The processors come in CPU core-counts of up to 96-core/192-thread. There are as many as 18 processor SKUs, differentiated not just in CPU core-counts, but also the way the the cores are spread across the up to 12 "Zen 4" chiplets (CCDs). Each chiplet features up to 8 "Zen 4" CPU cores, depending on the model; up to 32 MB of L3 cache, and is built on the 5 nm EUV process at TSMC. The CCDs talk to a centralized server I/O die (sIOD), which is built on the 6 nm process. The processors AMD is launching today are the EPYC "Genoa" series, targeting general purpose servers, although they can be deployed in large cloud data-centers, too. To large-scale cloud providers such as AWS, Azure, and Google Cloud, AMD is readying a different class of processor, codenamed "Bergamo," which is plans to launch later. In 2023, the company will launch the "Genoa-X" line of processor for technical-compute and HPC applications, which benefit from large on-die caches, as they feature the 3D Vertical Cache technology. There will also be "Siena," a class of EPYC processors targeting the telecom and edge-computing markets, which could see an integration of more Xilinx IP.

The EPYC "Genoa" processor, as we mentioned, comes in core-counts of up to 96-core/192-thread, dominating the 40-core/80-thread counts of the 3rd Gen Xeon Scalable "Ice Lake-SP," and also staying ahead of the 60-core/120-thread counts of the upcoming Xeon Scalable "Sapphire Rapids." The new AMD processor also sees a significant buff of its I/O capabilities, featuring a 12-channel (24 sub-channel) DDR5 memory interface, and a gargantuan 160-lane PCI-Express Gen 5 interface (that's ten Gen 5 x16 slots running at full bandwidth). and platform support for CXL and 2P xGMI links by subtracting some of those multipurpose lanes. The new 6 nm server I/O die (sIOD) has a significantly higher transistor count than the 12 nm one powering past-gen EPYC processors. The high transistor count is due to two large 80-lane configurable SERDES (serializer-deserializer) components, which can be made to put out PCIe Gen 5 lanes, CXL 1.1 lanes, SATA 6 Gbps ports, or even the inter-socket Infinity Fabric enabling 2P platforms. The processor supports up to 64 CXL 1.1 lanes that can be used to connect to networked memory-pooling devices. 3rd generation Infinity Fabric connects the various components inside the sIOD, the sIOD to the twelve "Zen 4" CCDs via IFOP, and as an inter-socket interconnect. The processor features a 12-channel (24 x 40-bit sub-channels) memory interface, which supports up to 6 TB of ECC DDR5-4800 memory per socket. The latest generation Secure Processor provides SEV-SNP (secure nested paging), and AES-256-XTS, for a larger number of secure VMs.




Each of the 5 nm CPU complex dies (CCDs) is physically identical to the ones you find in Ryzen 7000-series "Raphael" desktop processors. It packs 8 "Zen 4" CPU cores, each with 1 MB of dedicated L2 cache, and 32 MB of L3 cache shared among the 8 cores. Each "Zen 4" core provides a 14% generational performance uplift compared to "Zen 3," with clock-speed kept constant. Much of this uplift comes from updates to the core's Front-end and Load/store unit, while the branch predictor, larger L2 cache, and execution engine, make smaller contributions. The biggest generational change is the ISA, which sees the introduction of support for the AVX-512 instruction-set, VNNI, and bfloat16. The new instruction sets should accelerate AVX-512 math workloads, as well as accelerate performance with AI applications. AMD says that its AVX-512 implementation is more die-efficient compared to Intel's, as it is using existing 256-bit wide FPU in a double-pumped fashion to enable 512-bit operations.

AMD is launching a total of 18 processor SKUs today, all meant for the Socket SP5 platform. It follows the nomenclature as described in the slide below. EPYC is the top-level brand, "9" is the product series. The next digit indicates core-count, with "0" denoting 8 cores, "1" denoting 16, "2" denoting 24, "3" denoting 32, "4" denoting 48, "5" being 64, and "6" being 84-96. The next digit denotes performance on a 1-10 scale. The last digit is actually a character, which could either be "P" or "F," with P denoting 2P-capable SKUs, and "F" denoting special SKUs that focus on fewer cores per CCD to improve per-core performance. The configurable TDP of all SKUs is rated up to 400 W, which seems high, but one should take into account the CPU core-count, and the impact it has on the number of server blades per rack. This is one of the reason AMD isn't scaling beyond 2 sockets per server. The company's core-density translates into 67% fewer servers, 52% less power. In terms of performance, AMD only has Intel's dated 3rd Gen Xeon Scalable "Ice Lake-SP" processors for comparison, since "Sapphire Rapids" is still unreleased. With core-counts equalized, the 16-core EPYC 9174F is shown being 47% faster than the Xeon Gold 6346; the 32-core EPYC 9374F is 55% faster than the Xeon Platinum 8362; and the 48-core EPYC 9474F is 51% faster than the 40-core Xeon Platinum 8380. The same test group also sees 58-96% floating-point performance leadership in favor of AMD.
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Staro 10.11.2022., 22:16   #523
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Zwer će se ugušiti od meltdowna, znači brutalna dominacija, veće performanse, manja potrošnja, više jezgri ma sve. I treba spomenuti serverski APU koji nekako prolazi ispod radara, brutalan proizvod .
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I najbitnije od svega, već sad svi veći partneri imaju spremne konkretne proizvode/servere. Odlični procesori ali i odličan launch platforme.
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Da i još k tome Intel za high-end 56-core Sapphire Rapids Xeon model traži ~13.000€, dok novi 96-core EPYC ide za ~11.000€.
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I Intelova HBM memorija ima znatno veće latencije od AMD-ovog 3d l3cache-a.
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IMHO samo je pitanje vremena kad i AMD složi HBM EPYC modele, jer sve ostalo već nude. I onda imaju kompletnu ponudu, HBM + 3D cache na/u istom pakiranju, pa lako dalje skaliraju i segmentiraju.

HBM su ionak implementirali za (propala?) Vega čuda tehnike i koriste ih općenito za CDNA, a i onaj serverski APU koji su spomenul bude imal kombinaciju svega i svačega.
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AMD Ryzen Threadripper 7000 reportedly launching in September 2023
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AMD plans for high-end desktop systems include “Storm Peak” platform as a Q3 2023 product. AMD is reportedly planning two product series based on the platform: HEDT and workstations. The HEDT series will support quad-channel memory and 64 PCIe Gen5 and 8 PCIe Gen3 lanes. Those products are said to support overclocking. Meanwhile, the 8-channel memory will be exclusive to workstation Threadripper platform (so likely Threadripper PRO). The series will see doubled PCIe Gen5 lane support up to 128, but it will not support overclocking for either the CPU or memory. Earlier rumors have suggested that Zen 4 desktop Threadripper platform could support up to 96 cores, so just as many as EPYC 9004 “Genoa” chips for servers. This would be, in fact, a very similar decision to Intel’s plans for the upcoming Sapphire Rapids Xeon 3400 and 2400 series. It is worth noting that AMD has two sockets for its Zen 4 EPYC products: SP5 and SP6. The former has already seen a formal introduction with EPYC Genoa 9004 series, while the latter is said to arrive later. The SP5 platform supports 160 PCIe Gen5 lanes and 12-channel DDR5 memory, while SP6 is believed to support 96 PCIe Gen5 and 6-channel memory.
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AMD announces Zen 4 EPYC Embedded 9004 Series: Up to 96 cores with 1P and 2P solutions
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Derived from AMD's standard EPYC 9004 chips for servers, the AMD EPYC Embedded 9004 processors are aimed at embedded applications such as automation, telecommunications, the Internet of Things (IoT), and edge computing; use cases where high power efficiency is a strict technical requirement. Coming with options in both 1P and 2P configurations, AMD's EPYC Embedded 9004 series processors feature up to 96 cores (192 threads) per chip, with up to 384 MB of L3 Cache and duodenary (12) channel memory controllers, which are capable of supporting DDR5-4800 ECC memory in RDIMM, NVDIMM-N, and 3DS RDIMMs flavors. AMD's EYPC Embedded processors are deployed for various applications and industries. One of the most profound use cases includes the industrial automation industry, where large computing power is required and can subsequently process large amounts of data in real time. Other industries requiring high-powered and highly efficient embedded solutions include the medical imaging industry, edge computing, networking, and telecommunications. Two critical requirements for embedded solutions are power efficiency and performance per watt, which is why the latest EPYC embedded 9004 chips must be fit for purpose.

As previously noted, the EPYC Embedded lineup also brings with it official support for NVDIMMs. One of the main advantages of NVDIMM-N over other types of NVDIMMs is its fast access time. Since DRAM is the primary memory, NVDIMM-N provides high-speed access to data, which is crucial for applications that require fast data access, such as databases and real-time analytics. With the the non-volatile flash storage available as a backup mechanism, NVDIMM-N can ensure that data not lost even during a power failure or system crash. NVDIMM-N also has a lower latency than traditional non-volatile memory, which means that data can be accessed quicker, even at full load, for critical industries such as Cloud storage, Networking, and Telecomms, and even in sectors such as Automotive; all of these are key target segments for the AMD EPYC Embedded 9004 solutions. And, of course, AMD's first generation of CXL support is available as well. With full CXL 1.1 support, Embedded EPYC processors can access volatile and non-volatile CXL.mem devices, expanding the number and types of memory options available to the platform.
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After getting bruised in servers by AMD, Intel hopes to stop the bleeding in the server market with next year’s chip offerings. The difference-making products will be Sierra Forest and Granite Rapids, which are due out in 2024, said Dave Zinsner, chief financial officer at Intel, last week at the Morgan Stanley Technology, Media and Telecom conference. intel’s current server offering is a Xeon chip codenamed Sapphire Rapids. The chipmaker later this year will ship its successor, codenamed Emerald Rapids, which provides incremental performance upgrades. Emerald Rapids will be more of a bridge to the difference-making chips released in 2024, but it will not stop the market-share loss the company is taking from AMD. AMD has made the most of Intel’s delays and mismanagement of its server product roadmap, with chips like Sapphire Rapids being delayed multiple times. AMD’s next big chip release is Bergamot, which is coming out in the first half of this year. The chip is based on the same instruction set as Genoa, but with more cores and lesser frequency. It is targeted at dense servers.“It’s optimized for cloud native, so instead of a 96-core cluster, it’s 128 cores. It does not run at the same peak frequency of Genoa.”
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AMD Ryzen Threadripper Pro 7000 “Storm Peak” with up to 96 Zen4 cores to launch on October 19
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According to previously leaked marketing materials, AMD is set to reveal their next-generation Threadripper series this fall. As it turns out, we won’t have to wait for much longer, as the official launch date is right around the corner, scheduled for October 19th. The forthcoming launch is expected to target OEMs and SI (System Integrators), who will offer a range of systems based on both OEM and DIY motherboard designs utilizing the TRX50 chipset. This chipset is anticipated to be derived from the EPYC 9004 “Genoa” series, upon which the Threadripper is built. This translates to support for up to 96 Zen4 cores, up to 128 PCIe Gen5 lanes, and DDR5 compatibility.

Leaked slides suggest that AMD is claiming its upcoming series will deliver a 20% performance boost and indeed feature 96 cores. This isn’t entirely surprising, as leaks have already showcased the 96-core Threadripper 7995WX. It’s expected that this release will not only feature the highest core count ever in the high-end desktop (HEDT) market but also boast the fastest Threadripper CPU with a clock speed of 5.1 GHz. To achieve this, AMD had to increase the TDP from 280W (Zen3) to 350W for its new Storm Peak platform. While the DIY market launch is expected to be somewhat limited, AMD has made it clear that their primary focus is on high-end workstations rather than the gaming community. With the launch of the Threadripper 7000, AMD will be streamlining its portfolio by adopting DDR5 and PCIe Gen5 standards across its consumer, HEDT, and data-center product lines.
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AMD EPYC 8324P / 8324PN Siena 32-Core Zen 4c Siena Linux server performance
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Up for testing today is an initial look at the Siena performance in the form of the EPYC 8324P and EPYC 8324PN 32-core parts for seeing how they stack up against 32-core Intel Xeon Scalable "Sapphire Rapids" performance. The EPYC 8324P has a 180 Watt TDP while the EPYC 8324PN has a 130 Watt TDP. The EPYC 8324P has a configurable TDP from 155 to 225 Watts while the Siena PN parts do not have a configurable TDP. The Xeon Gold 6421N is the main comparison point for today's benchmarking with this 32-core Sapphire Rapids processor having a 185 Watt TDP, 1.8GHz base frequency, and 3.6GHz turbo frequency.

Overall it was quite interesting to see the EPYC 8324P/8324PN with thirty-two Zen 4C cores still competing -- and at times outperforming in raw performance -- the Xeon Gold 6421N Sapphire Rapids processor that costs more and was also less power efficient. Even in power determinism mode the EPYC 8324P consumed significantly less power than the Xeon Gold 6421N competition... Across all of the benchmarks carried out the EPYC 8324P on average had a 89 Watt average with a 136 Watt peak, or in power determinism mode a 94 Watt average with a 168 Watt peak. Meanwhile the Xeon Gold 6421N had a 139 Watt average and 192 Watt peak. On average the Xeon Gold 6421N power consumption was 1.56x that of the stock EPYC 8324P or 1.93x of the EPYC 8324PN.

EPYC 8324P and 8324PN processors so far up against the equivalent Xeon Gold 6421N 32-core Sapphire Rapids processor, EPYC Siena is on track to deliver a compelling trifecta of performance, value, and energy efficiency for those looking at single socket servers and not needing to maximize the core count or density where Genoa and Bergamo come into play or for really driving HPC workloads where Genoa-X is able to deliver stunning results.
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Threadripper PRO 7995WX was running around 46% faster than the Xeon Platinum 8480+ as the fastest Intel Sapphire Rapids part tested for this comparison. The only area where there was competition between the Intel Xeon and Threadripper PRO 7995WX was with TensorFlow where leveraging Sapphire Rapids' AMX capabilities. The performance of the Threadripper 7970X and 7980X was mind-boggling for single socket workstations and then for the HP Z6 G5 A to arrive days later with the Threadripper PRO 7995WX just went above and beyond to deliver mind-blowing performance for the professional workstation space. As shown by the many benchmarks there is plenty of real-world professional/creator software out there today that can make use of the 96 cores of DDR5 RDIMMs as well as benefiting from AVX-512 and other Zen 4 architectural improvements compared to prior Threadripper processors.


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Zajeb je kaj 2.500$ 32C/64T Threadripper 7970X nudi performanse u rangu 56C/112T Xeon Platinum 8480+ modela koji košta ~10.000$.
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Pogledao sam rivju od Au Stevota i bome je imao dobar sex sa prošlim Tr-om.
Prvo im je MSI uvalio prototip ploče koja nikad nije išla u prodaju pa nije ni dobila update, pa su dobili drugu koja isto nije valjala, pa su dobili Asusovu na kojoj ne rade nV grafe i performanse su dosta degradirane....plus hrpetina sitnih problema.
Rekao je da mu je malo prisjeo preskupi proc koji baš i ne radi kako treba.
Ja def nisam kupac ovako nečeg, ali ne zvuči baš privlačno, pogotovo ne za 5k $ (vj 6k€ kod nas) samo za CPU...
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Da, on je imal "problem s 5995WX procesorom" na temelju dvije sfušane ploče, a za zadnju ASUS kombinaciju je rekel da je radilo, ali nakon svega mu je već bilo dosta pizdarija.
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Divno i krasno i daleko bolje od intelovih HEDT proizvoda al problem je sta vecinu stvari za koje ti treba hrpa jezgri danas neusporedivo brze odradjuju GPU-ovi...
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