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Staro 01.11.2017., 18:25   #391
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Jel ti to pc za svakodnevan rad tj gaming ili samo office chrome itd ?
Idu oni i na puno vise ako je cip ok no to je dvije jezgre tako da je to ajmo reci zastarilo cak je i 4 jezgre vec za neke teze operacije malo.
Probaj nabaviti E5450 pa staviti jer on je pristojan proc sa 4 jezgre i ako se ne varam 3.0 ghz 12M chace i 1333Mhz fsb.
Ako koristis stock hladnjak skidaj odmah i stavljaj neki aftermarket jer su ti tempovi dosta visoki u full loadu.
Sad ovisi za sto ti je komp no ako mislis i igrati nesto onda pod obavezno jos 4gb rama nesto kvalitetnije od grafe i napajanje drugo a ako ne barem jos 2 gb rama jer za danasnje vrijeme 4 gb rama je jako malo.
Ja sam uzeo X5460 3.16 ghz no uz overclock ide i na 4.16/18+ ali su mi rami problem jer ne zele ici vise od 100/120 mhz gore i to je sad problem no radi ok na 3.82 ghz.
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Staro 01.11.2017., 19:17   #392
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Komp mi je na poslu...., tj. većinom ga koristim za Office, Surfanje.., i tu i tamo nešto prekodiram...., tj. neki video...
Nije za igranje.., većinom "ozbiljan" posao...., i planirao sam nabaviti jači hladnjak.., pa ću to i napraviti...

Što se tiče jačeg proca..., to vodi jačem napajanju, a ne želim ulagati u nešto što nije moje...

Eto...
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Aha znaci samo za posao.
Ne trebas bas sad jace napajanje jer E procesori su 90w Tdp sto nije nesto vise od ovog sto ti imas ali ako nije tvoje onda je i ovo super.
Hladnjak pod obavezno i dobru termalnu pastu tipa cooler master master gel maker nano.
Ja je koristim vec dugo vremena i stvarno ok pasta za ulozeno dobiveno.
Kod mene je jos uvijek problem sto se grije dosta no to ce uz poliranje hladnjaka i proca skinuti nekih 5 c sto je sasvim dovoljno barem se nadam
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Staro 03.11.2017., 21:30   #394
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Ne mogu skinuti mmtool i microcodove sa linkova na prvoj stranici. Ima koja dobra duša da mi proslijedi?



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Staro 03.11.2017., 23:00   #396
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Nakon što sam dodao kodove u bios i flešao bios na ploču kod svakog paljenja na post screenu mi javlja:

"Unknown CPU detected. BIOS update is required to unleash its full power.
Press F1 to resume"

Gore na ploči je još uvijek neki P4. Nikakvi stari kodovi nisu brisani. Ploča je Asus P5K-VM.

Nemam još Xeona za staviti, ali to ne bi smjelo valjda javljati.
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P4 su malo stariji procesori. Barem nekog Conroea stavi ako imaš.
To je i kolegi Sabertoothu javljalo isto na P5Q ploči. Jel to zadnji BIOS?

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Staro 03.11.2017., 23:19   #398
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Da, zadnji beta bios je gore, 1001 verzija. I prije je bila ta verzija i s tim procom nije to javljalo pa si sad mislim da bi u nekoj teoriji moglo i sa xeonima možda isto tako javljati.

Budem probao sad sa celeronom 430.


Sa celeronom bome ne javlja.

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Staro 04.11.2017., 00:57   #399
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Da, procesor je prestar sjećam se da sam probao Cedar Milojka utrpati na P5Q-E i nagruvati ga u nebesa, ali je ploča pružala otpor. Davno je to bilo, tko će se svega toga sjetiti
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Pozdrav svima,
imam jedan problem sa random BSOD-ovima nakon ubacivanja x5450 u EVGA nForce 750i SLI FTW ploču...
Sa E8400 radi besprijekorno, ali čim ubacim ovaj proc, počinju BSOD-ovi sa errorima "memory management" i "IRQL not less or equal", a glavni krivci su ntoskrnl.exe i mssmbios.sys kao što se vidi na screenshotu. BSOD se pojavljuje u raznim situacijama, najčešće prilikom surfanja.

Zanima me da li se neko susreo s ovim problemom možda?
Kod mene je mogući problem PSU (Fortron 350 PNF) i eventualno loš BIOS makar nebi smio biti jer sam ga updateao po PS-u sa mikrokodovima i proc je prepoznat u BIOS-u i u Windowsima...
Dignuo sam sve napone za jedan korak za svaki slučaj, ali nije pomoglo. Probat ću se igrat s tim i frekvencijama još ali nekako sumnjam da je do toga.

Da li je moguće da naljepnica nije dobro sjela pa par susjednih pinova ne radi dobar kontakt? Na oko su svi vidljivi i nalja nije mogla bolje sjest nego kako je sad...

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Ja imam x5460 sa Fortron 350 PNF radi bez problema.
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Pozdrav svima,
imam jedan problem sa random BSOD-ovima nakon ubacivanja x5450 u EVGA nForce 750i SLI FTW ploču...
Sa E8400 radi besprijekorno, ali čim ubacim ovaj proc, počinju BSOD-ovi sa errorima "memory management" i "IRQL not less or equal", a glavni krivci su ntoskrnl.exe i mssmbios.sys kao što se vidi na screenshotu. BSOD se pojavljuje u raznim situacijama, najčešće prilikom surfanja.

Zanima me da li se neko susreo s ovim problemom možda?
Kod mene je mogući problem PSU (Fortron 350 PNF) i eventualno loš BIOS makar nebi smio biti jer sam ga updateao po PS-u sa mikrokodovima i proc je prepoznat u BIOS-u i u Windowsima...
Dignuo sam sve napone za jedan korak za svaki slučaj, ali nije pomoglo. Probat ću se igrat s tim i frekvencijama još ali nekako sumnjam da je do toga.

Da li je moguće da naljepnica nije dobro sjela pa par susjednih pinova ne radi dobar kontakt? Na oko su svi vidljivi i nalja nije mogla bolje sjest nego kako je sad...

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Meni ovdje smrdi na djeljitelj memorije.
A inače je taj čipset bugovit i qrčevit.

Što se PSUa tiče, moj X5450 je na 250W Fortronu tako da nije do PSU

Probaj neki drugi djeljitelj tj smanji takt RAMu na 800 ako je više i malo digni latencije, za početak recimo 800 MHz 6-6-6-18. Ako tu ne bude BSODova, onda lagano ili diži takt ili zategni latencije na 5-5-5-15 ili ako je neki iole bolji RAM 4-4-4-12.

Probaj, vidi, javi.

A nekada i ti procovi jednostavno su u qrcu. Bilo je slučajeva da su ljudi dobivali sfušane procove kojima fali koji SMD odozdo ili tako nešto.

No, probaj foru sa RAMom pa ćemo dalje.

A procesor može ići sigurno sa naponom do 1.4V pa ako ti je tu tanko, probaj sa 1.37V.

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Ok onda definitivno napajanje nije tako strašno.

Slažem se da je chipset bugovit, još davno kad sam mijenjao ploču htio sam uzet neki normalni P35 ili P45 višeg ranga, ali nije se ništa nudilo pa sam uzeo ovu, no što je tu je.
Probat ću to sa djeliteljem i latencijama, baš smrdi do memorije ili procesora.
Javim se danas ili sutra.

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Evo samo update, prvo sam probao na blef podići napon FSB-a za još jedan korak, trenutno je 1,25 onda i cijeli dan je stabilan
Bude li još problema javim se, ali vrlo vjerovatno je do tih postavki. Primjetio sam i brutalan pad napona kad se optereti u OCCT-u recimo, napon jezgre procesora postavim na 1,32, a padne na 1,26 u loadu... Što je najgore tolki je pad i za napon memorije
Brutala od ploče, šta reć...
Hvala vam još jednom, živjeli
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Jel ima ta ploča u biosu kakav Loadline Calibration? Ako ima, to uključi ili digni na neki viši nivo.

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Nema LLC kao takav, ali ima pencil mod
To ga je dovelo u red kaj se tiče napona.

A u vezi stabilnosti si izgleda bio u pravu sa množiteljem/fsb strapom. Onaj povišeni napon FSB-a je pomogao, ali tek kad sam stavio un-linked vezu procesora i memorije se komp doveo u red.
Nema više random rušenja web stranica i BSOD-ova.

Čak sam uspio nagovoriti i Mushkin 1000 MHz i G-Skill 800 Mhz module da surađuju na ovoj ploči, pa je sveukupno 8 GB unutra sad.

Čuda su izgleda moguća (nakon sat vremena clearanja CMOS-a zbog upornog odbijanja bilo kakvog POST-a sa bilo kakvom memorijom, ali nema veze)

Sad mi preostaje samo vidjeti do koje frekvencije mogu natjerat proc i memoriju i to je to. Hvala Druže
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Ako je G.Skill onaj obični zeleni, nemoj očekivat čuda, cca 900MHz max sa 5-5-5-15 i 1.95-2.0V.
A procesor... ako je E0 (SLBxx), komotno 4.1-4.3GHz sa 1.365-1.4V. Ako je C0 (SLAxx), ovisno kak te posere. Ima govnara koji sa 1.4V ne mogu preko 3.95GHz a ima ih i koji idu...

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Ja sam svoj E5450 E0 tero s 1.28V maksimum. Imam vodeno, evo na 3ghz sa 1.06V su u iddleu temperature jednake sobnim, load 32-33. Koliko ići s naponom za 24/7?
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s dobrim hladjenjem ti je nebo granica..
ja sam x5460 drzao na 3.8ghz na stock naponu sto je mislim 1.3v
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Ja sam svoj E5450 E0 tero s 1.28V maksimum. Imam vodeno, evo na 3ghz sa 1.06V su u iddleu temperature jednake sobnim, load 32-33. Koliko ići s naponom za 24/7?
Intel preporučuje 1.365V kao maksimalni napon jezgre za 45nm s775 procesore. Dugogodišnje iskustvo te praksa je pokazala da smo sigurni i sa 1.4V za 24/7, no dalje od toga nebi trebalo ići.
Također, nebi bilo dobro da je dugo izložen radu u uvjetima gdje mu temperatura prelazi 70°C.

FSB ne buš ganjao na njemu, pa te neću pilati sa ostalim naponima. Iako imaš dragulj od ploče kod mog ćaće je E5450 koji sa 1.2V radi na 3.6GHz već par godina bez ijednom BSODa ili greške.

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445X9=4GHz
Stavio cpu load mi 1.35V, mema 890mhz, digo napon ploče na 1.2V. Znači RADI i vrti orthos. Idem još gore, pa malo s naponima dole. :-)
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BTW gore je stock bios. :-)
Nego koliko da dam struje na NB, zasad sam na 1.2v. Evo 4.1ghz buta...
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Ne preko 1.3V. Kao ni VTT ili FSB Termination... tak se nekak zove. Do prve žute brojke

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Pih, pa onda imam još prostora :-)
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Ti E0 Xeoni su odlični clockeri. Moj X5460 E0 je išao u nebo sa safe naponima.
A ovaj koji imam sada X5450 E0, ne znam koji mu je OC potencijal jer ga imam na ploči koja se skljoka ako dignem FSB više od 339 MHz

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