AMD Ryzen "ZEN5" (9000 CPU series) Info thread

[The Exiled]

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Znači čekamo AM6 ili nešto bolje od 9800x3d-a. Pa iskreno za nekih 7-9% niema smisla.

Razlika je ipak malo veća, jer čak i stariji 7800X3D ima 10% do 15% bolje performanse od 5800X3D na 1440p, dok je 9800X3D još koji postotak bolji od 7800X3D.

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The Best Gaming CPU? Ryzen 7 9800X3D vs. Core i9-14900K, 45 Game Benchmark

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Nastavljamo dalje u revijalnom tonu, a ukoliko ste bili mišljenja da je Zen 4 podbacil u svakom pogledu, onda nasljednik u vidu Zen 5 arhitekture i Ryzen 9000 modela, nikoga ne ostavlja ravnodušnim. Konkretnog pomaka u performansama zapravo nema, a razočaranje je u toj mjeri tim veće da su se odmah kreirale nove marketinške kampanje i popratni slogani sadržavajući Zen 5% uz prikladne FAIL i FLOP epitete diljem službenih recenzija. AMD je s ovom generacijom upropastil i ono malo preostale dobre volje kod publike i kritike, jer Zen 5 više podsjeća na Bulldozer fijasko, nego na nešto što je prema očekivanjima i temeljeno na skroz novoj arhitekturi, trebalo biti dodatno pojačanje u inače sasvim solidnoj Zen ponudi.

Sve dosad rečeno itekako ima uporište u realnosti, dokle god se Zen 5 gleda kroz prizmu Windows OS-a i namjene tjeranja što većeg broja sličica u sekundi. AMD-u ovo nije trebalo, posebice kad se k početnim izuzetno lošim Zen 5 dojmovima, dodaje činjenica kupnje opet novih ploča baziranih na 800 seriji čipseta, koje ne donose ništa novo, jer čipset je identičan onome iz prošle 600 serije ploča i još je k tome riječ o SoC I/O jezgri koja se nalazi u samim procesorima koji za normalan rad uopće ne trebaju čipset na ploči. Proizvođači matičnih ploča vole svake godine zaraditi nofce, pa ASMedia (inače u ASUS vlasništvu) štanca AMD čipsete u tolikoj mjeri da se svi namire, jer su zahvaljujući Intelovoj dominaciji i monopolu naučili na fine stvari u životu i ne dolazi u obzir da im AMD kvari posložene planove.

Od kolovoza do prosinca još uvijek aktualne godine, dosta toga se vrlo dobro, ako ne i odlično posložilo za Zen 5 i prateće Ryzen 9000 modele kroz razne OS nadogradnje, AGESA i BIOS/microcode verzije, tako da je trenutna situacija s Windows OS-om, odnosno Windows 11 Pro 23H2 i 24H2 verzijama, itekako pogodnija za što veći broj sličica u sekundi uz tu i tamo kakav Geekbench ili CPU-Z single-core čisto za razonodu. StručLJaci spominju i servere, ali stječe se dojam kao da i nisu previše bitni u cijeloj priči, tako da se ne bi htel miješati. AMD je u međuvremenu izbacil i poprilično popularan 9800X3D model, koji je dodatno podigel sveopće dojmove, a krajnji kupci su unatoč i(li) usprkos marketingu skužili da nove ploče iz 800 serije nisu nove, ni potrebne, tako da se većina sa Zen 5 odlučila iskombinirati prijašnju, a ništa lošiju 600 seriju ploča uz obavezan upgrade BIOS-a.

Slično je bilo i u mojem slučaju, tj. i ovaj (treći) put sam se odlučil za provjerenu budžet MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk Wi-Fi ploču, koja je između ostalog udomila Ryzen 9 9950X + 4x32GB DDR5-5200 Faks Helizim memorije. Obzirom da su se Tjmax 75°C, 105W TDP i 142W PPT BIOS postavke pokazale i više nego dostatne za 7950X koji se već skoro dvije godine veselo vrti, odlučil sam identične postavke iskoristiti za novi 9950X, koji u tom režimu radi bez previše prigovora. Pod punim opterćenjem 9950X se "prži" na temperaturi od ~76°C uz ~132W maksimalne potrošnje, a onda se po potrebi kroz uključeni Global C-States Control, automatski prilagođava tzv. šparnost sustava i tu (idle/stanje mirovanja) 9950X pada na svega 12W uz ugodnih ~35°C do ~40°C. Linux za razliku od Windows OS-a, od samog početka radi kak spada sa Zen 5 skalamerijom, tako da je sa svakim novim kernelom i pratećim optimizacijama, ionako dobar temelj, samo dodatno pojačan, dok se s brojem sličica u sekundi uopće nisam zamaral. Tako da je 9950X iGPU baziran na RDNA 2 i više nego dovoljan za potrebe virtualnih mašina i općenito za moje potrebe rada u svemu što ne traži jaču dediciranu grafičku karticu.

• AMD Ryzen 9 9950X
• Noctua NH-U12A chromax.black
• MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk Wi-Fi
• 128GB Kingston FURY Beast DDR5-5200
• 256GB AData SX8200 Pro NVMe
• 1TB Crucial T500 NVMe
• 2x4TB WD Red Plus
• Fractal Define 7 Compact
• Seasonic GX-750

Architecture:             x86_64
  CPU op-mode(s):         32-bit, 64-bit
  Address sizes:          48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
  Byte Order:             Little Endian
CPU(s):                   32
  On-line CPU(s) list:    0-31
Vendor ID:                AuthenticAMD
  Model name:             AMD Ryzen 9 9950X 16-Core Processor
    CPU family:           26
    Model:                68
    Thread(s) per core:   2
    Core(s) per socket:   16
    Socket(s):            1
    Stepping:             0
    Frequency boost:      enabled
    CPU(s) scaling MHz:   37%
    CPU max MHz:          5752.0000
    CPU min MHz:          600.0000
    BogoMIPS:             8583.31
    Flags:                fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp 
                          lm constant_tsc rep_good amd_lbr_v2 nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc cpuid extd_apicid aperfmperf rapl pni pclmulqdq monitor ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1 ss
                          e4_2 movbe popcnt aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt t
                          ce topoext perfctr_core perfctr_nb bpext perfctr_llc mwaitx cpb cat_l3 cdp_l3 hw_pstate ssbd mba perfmon_v2 ibrs ibpb stibp ibrs_enhanced vmmca
                          ll fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid cqm rdt_a avx512f avx512dq rdseed adx smap avx512ifma clflushopt clwb avx512cd sha_ni a
                          vx512bw avx512vl xsaveopt xsavec xgetbv1 xsaves cqm_llc cqm_occup_llc cqm_mbm_total cqm_mbm_local user_shstk avx_vnni avx512_bf16 clzero irperf
                           xsaveerptr rdpru wbnoinvd cppc arat npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save tsc_scale vmcb_clean flushbyasid decodeassists pausefilter pfthreshold v_vmsav
                          e_vmload vgif v_spec_ctrl vnmi avx512vbmi umip pku ospke avx512_vbmi2 gfni vaes vpclmulqdq avx512_vnni avx512_bitalg avx512_vpopcntdq rdpid bus
                          _lock_detect movdiri movdir64b overflow_recov succor smca fsrm avx512_vp2intersect flush_l1d amd_lbr_pmc_freeze
Virtualization features:  
  Virtualization:         AMD-V
Caches (sum of all):      
  L1d:                    768 KiB (16 instances)
  L1i:                    512 KiB (16 instances)
  L2:                     16 MiB (16 instances)
  L3:                     64 MiB (2 instances)
NUMA:                     
  NUMA node(s):           1
  NUMA node0 CPU(s):      0-31
Vulnerabilities:          
  Gather data sampling:   Not affected
  Itlb multihit:          Not affected
  L1tf:                   Not affected
  Mds:                    Not affected
  Meltdown:               Not affected
  Mmio stale data:        Not affected
  Reg file data sampling: Not affected
  Retbleed:               Not affected
  Spec rstack overflow:   Not affected
  Spec store bypass:      Mitigation; Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Spectre v1:             Mitigation; usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Spectre v2:             Mitigation; Enhanced / Automatic IBRS; IBPB conditional; STIBP always-on; RSB filling; PBRSB-eIBRS Not affected; BHI Not affected
  Srbds:                  Not affected
  Tsx async abort:        Not affected

00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raphael/Granite Ridge Root Complex
00:00.2 IOMMU: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raphael/Granite Ridge IOMMU
00:01.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raphael/Granite Ridge Dummy Host Bridge
00:01.2 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raphael/Granite Ridge GPP Bridge
00:02.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raphael/Granite Ridge Dummy Host Bridge
00:02.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raphael/Granite Ridge GPP Bridge
00:02.2 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raphael/Granite Ridge GPP Bridge
00:03.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raphael/Granite Ridge Dummy Host Bridge
00:04.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raphael/Granite Ridge Dummy Host Bridge
00:08.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raphael/Granite Ridge Dummy Host Bridge
00:08.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raphael/Granite Ridge Internal GPP Bridge to Bus [C:A]
00:08.3 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raphael/Granite Ridge Internal GPP Bridge to Bus [C:A]
00:14.0 SMBus: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SMBus Controller (rev 71)
00:14.3 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH LPC Bridge (rev 51)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raphael/Granite Ridge Data Fabric; Function 0
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raphael/Granite Ridge Data Fabric; Function 1
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raphael/Granite Ridge Data Fabric; Function 2
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raphael/Granite Ridge Data Fabric; Function 3
00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raphael/Granite Ridge Data Fabric; Function 4
00:18.5 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raphael/Granite Ridge Data Fabric; Function 5
00:18.6 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raphael/Granite Ridge Data Fabric; Function 6
00:18.7 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raphael/Granite Ridge Data Fabric; Function 7
01:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: ADATA Technology Co., Ltd. XPG SX8200 Pro PCIe Gen3x4 M.2 2280 Solid State Drive (rev 03)
02:00.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 600 Series Chipset PCIe Switch Upstream Port (rev 01)
03:00.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 600 Series Chipset PCIe Switch Downstream Port (rev 01)
03:04.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 600 Series Chipset PCIe Switch Downstream Port (rev 01)
03:05.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 600 Series Chipset PCIe Switch Downstream Port (rev 01)
03:06.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 600 Series Chipset PCIe Switch Downstream Port (rev 01)
03:07.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 600 Series Chipset PCIe Switch Downstream Port (rev 01)
03:08.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 600 Series Chipset PCIe Switch Downstream Port (rev 01)
03:09.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 600 Series Chipset PCIe Switch Downstream Port (rev 01)
03:0c.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 600 Series Chipset PCIe Switch Downstream Port (rev 01)
03:0d.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 600 Series Chipset PCIe Switch Downstream Port (rev 01)
09:00.0 SATA controller: ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1061/ASM1062 Serial ATA Controller (rev 02)
0b:00.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 600 Series Chipset USB 3.2 Controller (rev 01)
0c:00.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 600 Series Chipset SATA Controller (rev 01)
0d:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: Micron/Crucial Technology T500 NVMe PCIe SSD (rev 01)
0e:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Granite Ridge [Radeon Graphics] (rev c1)
0e:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Rembrandt Radeon High Definition Audio Controller
0e:00.2 Encryption controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 19h PSP/CCP
0e:00.3 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raphael/Granite Ridge USB 3.1 xHCI
0e:00.4 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raphael/Granite Ridge USB 3.1 xHCI
0e:00.6 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h/19h/1ah HD Audio Controller
0f:00.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 15b8

Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0bda:8179 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188EUS 802.11n Wireless Network Adapter
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 174c:2074 ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1074 High-Speed hub
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0e8d:0616 MediaTek Inc. Wireless_Device
Bus 001 Device 005: ID 1462:7d75 Micro Star International MYSTIC LIGHT 
Bus 001 Device 006: ID 05e3:0608 Genesys Logic, Inc. Hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 174c:3074 ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1074 SuperSpeed hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 005 Device 002: ID 046d:c534 Logitech, Inc. Nano Receiver
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub

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• AMD Launches Ryzen 9 9000X3D Series "Zen 5" Desktop Processors with 3D V-Cache
  
  
• AMD Unveils Ryzen 9 9000HX and 9000HX3D "Zen 5" Mobile Processors for Enthusiast Notebooks
  
  
• AMD Debuts Ryzen AI Max Series "Strix Halo" SoC: up to 16 "Zen 5" cores, Massive iGPU
  
  
• AMD Debuts Radeon RX 9070 XT and RX 9070 Powered by RDNA 4, and FSR 4
  
  
• AMD Expands Copilot+ Capable Ryzen AI 300 Series, Debuts Ryzen 200 Series Mainstream Mobile Processors
  
  
• AMD officially introduces Ryzen 5 9600 non-X: 6 Zen5 cores and 65W TDP at 5.2 GHz
  
  
• AMD Announces the Ryzen Z2 Line of SoCs for Gaming Handhelds

[Dr. Strange]

https://wccftech.com/amd-says-intel-...assive-demand/

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AMD implements new CCD connection in "Strix Halo" Ryzen AI Max processors

Izvor: Chips and Cheese

[mkey]

Zašto su promijenili naming convention? Djelomično promijenili, drugim dijelom nastavili tamo gdje su stali.

[The Exiled]

PR, marketing, hype, itd. samo da bude u skladu s ovim kaj je na tržištu trenutno popularno, a ništa pametno zapravo.

Makar lako za glupa i šašava imena, glavno da sad sa Strix Halo modelima imaju temelje za buduće CCD + IOD kombinacije.

[mkey]

Pa to je samo naziv, ali malo ostavlja dojam da nema ni kormila ni kormilara

[The Exiled]

Ipak je to AMD, tak da se sve fino paše.