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Staro 01.04.2018., 15:45   #2371
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Daj ne pričaj gluposti ta ploča nema video izlaz. Što će mu onda iGPU u procesoru

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Staro 01.04.2018., 16:04   #2372
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Daj ne pričaj gluposti ta ploča nema video izlaz. Što će mu onda iGPU u procesoru

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Ma smeće od ploče

Nego Matt, zašto baš 2400g a ne 2200g? Ipak je cca 400kn + skuplji..
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Staro 01.04.2018., 16:10   #2373
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Staro 03.04.2018., 01:27   #2374
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bolje uzmi 2200g nije velika razlika u performansama
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Staro 14.04.2018., 20:44   #2375
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Staro 15.04.2018., 20:02   #2376
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Vi koji ste zadnji uzimali as rockice - koje ste biose dobivali?

Također ako čitaju vlasnici as rock x370 killerica - koji bios je naj? Ima li neki probleme?

Uzima jedan kolega, ne znam dali će mu u shopu updejtati bios (budući da se radi o 1600 ne vjerujem), a budući da će imati 16gb 2133mhz ram pitam se imali smisla uopće updejtat?
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Staro 15.04.2018., 21:16   #2377
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od ovih iz popisa mi najbolje izgleda gbyte zbog normalnog vrm hladnjaka
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Staro 15.04.2018., 22:36   #2378
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od ovih iz popisa mi najbolje izgleda gbyte zbog normalnog vrm hladnjaka
"Izgleda". Da. Financijski i ne
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Staro 16.04.2018., 00:11   #2379
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nisam ni gledao cijene, po defaultu sam mislio da bude jeftinija od asus CH VII
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Staro 16.04.2018., 00:41   #2380
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Pa sve gige su jeftinije od CH7

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Staro 16.04.2018., 00:42   #2381
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2100KN Giga 7ica u iPonu.. al ide na 1800-1900 kroz 10 dana

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Staro 16.04.2018., 08:00   #2382
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Ti, nešto nisu sretni baš sa tim pločama. Vele da se dogodila evolucija X370 Gaming K5 ploče, a ne Gaming 5 koju su svi priželjkivali. Da su dosta oklaštrene ploče u odnosu na Gaming 5.

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Staro 16.04.2018., 13:13   #2383
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Staro 16.04.2018., 13:15   #2384
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Po pitanju Dual Biosa, boljih VRMova itd... nisam nešto previše čitao.
Ali budući si ti njihov zastupnik, možda bi nam mogao podrobnije o tome reći.

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Staro 16.04.2018., 16:27   #2385
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Na prvoj gen je giga malo fušarila na vrm-u overall gledano - gaming 3, K3, K5, s druge strane gaming 5 i K7 su OK, ali ne kao high end od as rocka i asusa. Ali su zato imale dobar ram support i bclk generator (čak ponajbolji). Ako ne budu izigravali cicije na x470 sa vrm bit će to jebene ploče
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Staro 16.04.2018., 16:54   #2386
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gaming 5(i k7) vrm nije bio u rangu asus CH VI, taichi itd koje su realno bile overkill(280+A)...ali je imao veci eff od njih

gbyte su davale 240A sto je i za LN dovoljno. ako se gleda power circut kod tih x370, gaming 5 je bila najbolja za to kolko je kostala, eventualno biostar racing(ali nije ga bilo u HR)

smljam da ce ova x470 ver. k7 ici ispod 240A

edit. mislim da gaming 5 nije imala bclk
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Ajmo brzo, treba hitno ploča:
- B350 čipset / može i X370 ako se uklapa u cijenu
- Asus ili Gigabyte (MSI i ASRock nikako)
- da joj VRMovi ne kuhaju ako bude držala R5 2600 na 4GHz/1.2V
- da je 800-900kn i ni lipe preko 900
- M.2 slot jer ide NVMe SSD gore

Slaže se budget gaming stroj, pola delova se ima, pola će se nabaviti, jedino je ploča nepoznata.

Onako palac puta oko, Giga X370 Gaming 3 za 820 kn -3% kod Uzija pretpostavljam da je to to, da ne treba dalje niš gledat?

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Staro 24.04.2018., 09:13   #2388
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Asrokice ti za taj cjenovni rang imaju jos i najbolji vrm

samo ova gbytica ti bas ne ulazi u cjenovni rang do 900kn, ak ti kalkulacija ide bez pdva probaj potegnuti do asus x370 prime, to je u principu prva x370 sa postenim vrm-om, sve ostalo do te cijene su ti 3 ili 4 faze vrm-a.

od b350 msi imaju najbolji vrm/hladjenje sto ti opet nije u izboru
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Kako ne ulazi, 823kn kod Uzija je ova AX370 Gaming 3. Pa to je taj budžet.
Velim, držat će CPU na 1.2V, nikakvo debiljenje preko. Budget gaming stroj za 1080P. GTX1060 6GB ili RX480/580 8GB bude kartica, ništa deblje od toga.

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Staro 24.04.2018., 09:32   #2390
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moj zajeb, gledao sam K verziju, ugl na toj non K verziji ti soc vrm nema heatsink...ak ti to kaj znaci.

ak ne, deri nju i cao kad ti asrock/msi ne dolazi u obzir

u svakom slucaju kaj god da uzmes probaj staviti top down hladnjak da usput puse po vrm-u
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Staro 24.04.2018., 09:40   #2391
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Koliko vidim AB350 Gaming 3 i AX370 Gaming 3 su identične ploče.
OK, što od ASRocka ili MSI-a bi preporučio?

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Staro 24.04.2018., 09:53   #2392
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striktno po vrm-u za x370 chipset do 900 krznenih - MSI X370 Gaming Plus(najrobusniji vrm i prakticki jedina koja drzi 8core bez znatnijeg znojenja)
Sad kakve su po pitanju bugova/biosa itd ne znam.(valjda su to do sada popeglali)
Asrock x370 je preko 900 kn

generalno pravilo kod jeftinijh x370/b350 ploca je koristiti top down hladnjak da usput puse po vrm-u i dobar si.
6 jezgri na 1.2V bi trebala izdrzati svaka ploca, eventualno ako ce kasnije ici jaci cpu pa da imas podlogu za mirinji upgrade po pitanju vrm-a.
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Gledam baš MSI B350 Krait Gaming. 880 kn.
Budem pogledao i ovu koju si rekao, hvala.

Za sada ide R5 2600. Kaj bude kasnije, pitaj boga. Do sada je gruvao E8400 @ 4.3GHz tako da ako mu je taj bio dostatan sve ove godine, mislim da i R5 2600 biti isto dugo ali otom potom.

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Mislim da ti MSI B350 Krait Gaming ima isti vrm kao i ova x370 gaming plus.

od b350, Krait gaming i gaming pro carbon ti imaju najboljij vrm(indentican je), jedino sto bi od MSI zaobilazio je B350 Gaming pro koji je 3+2 faze.

tu imas detaljnije za b350 ploce, s tim da ti vecina jeftinijih x370 ploca koristi isti vrm kao i ove skuplje b350 ploce

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Onda ide B350 Krait jer je zgodnija hvala na savjetu

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Možeš i ovu https://www.nabava.net/search.php?q=b350-f

Samo jebiga prvi su ti mađari, a iz malla bi morao vjerojatno čekati koji dan (tamo sam ja svoju uzeo).

Mada nema tu nekog zajeba što god da uzmeš, nije to AM3+ socket da su msi i as rock no go. Možeš i tu krait, sjećam se da sam ju i ja bio razmatrao sebi
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Evo i CH7, https://www.links.hr/hr/maticna-ploc...-am4-050300359

Čekam ostale jer Links nije mjerodavan za neku usporedbu cijena...
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Imaš u iponu

https://www.nabava.net/search.php?q=...IR+VII+HERO%2C

Dakle ispod toga neće ići ni kod ostalih shopova
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E tako nekako sam i očekivao cijenu. Pričekat ću zasad i ostale, uzeo bih kod adma, uzija i sl.

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Uglavnom trenutno stanje cijena:

R5 1600 ~1250-1400kn, R5 1600X~ 1400-1600kn
R5 2600 ~1500-1700kn, R5 2600X~ 1700-1900kn

R7 1700 ~ 1950-2200kn, R7 1700x ~ 1970-2400kn, R7 1800X ~ 2250-2600kn
R7 2700 ~ 2390-2600kn, R7 2700x ~ 2550-2800kn

Pitam se do kada će biti u prodaji 1st gena i do koliko uopće mogu padati cijene, konkretno dali se može dogoditi nešto tipa da do kraja godine 1600 padne na 1000kn ili ispod toga ili će samo padati do određene točke i/ili nestati. Vidjet ćemo.
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