Vijesti i novosti o Intel procesorima i čipsetima

[Gigi1]

The good news for Intel is that despite the initial setbacks for 10 nm, they have stated that 10 nm yields are actually ahead of their internal expectations for this point in its lifecycle

Koja laž, mora da je to neki transkript za dionicare

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Autor Gigi1

Koja laž

Na čemu temeljiš tu tvrdnju?

[Manuel Calavera]

Originally,*10nm*was*intended*to ship by 2016, following delays to the company's 14nm process.*Intel*has since been forced to push the date back multiple times


It’s worth noting that on this 2014 diagram, Intel has 14nm listed as a 2014 technology, while 10nm is listed as a 2016 technology.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13405...-dive-review/2

A za 2020 na desktopu planiraju još jednu turu 14nm...

[Gigi1]

Autor kopija

Na čemu temeljiš tu tvrdnju?

Manuel me preduhitrio

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Pitao sam za yieldove.

[Manuel Calavera]

Ha čuj, dok za mobilne rade 10nm (manja površina čipova i niži clockovi), a za desktop još uvijek ne - nije li stvar očita?

[Sinac]

Mislim da se u pozadini krije ograničenje 7nm tehnologije, čak ni AMD nije uspio povisiti radnu frekvenciju koliko smo svi očekivali, 5 GHz je izgleda još uvijek limit za klasična hlađenja. Možemo samo pretpostavljati da Intel pokušava napraviti veći skok u performansama kako bi s novom tehnologijom ipak barem održao trenutnu poziciju na tržištu.

[Manuel Calavera]

Pa to je da. IPC napredak im nije toliko značajan da anulira izvjestan pad clocka na novim nodeovima.

[Mladenxy]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/15030...record-results

Tvornica novaca i dalje napreduje.

[The Exiled]

Bilo je linkano od strane kopije na prethodnoj stranici i daleko od toga da se osporava Intelova zarada. Iz tog izvještaja se i razvila rasprava o njihovim 10nm mogućnostima, koje se (i nakon svih ovih godina) nastoje prikazati u što boljem svjetlu, mada realno nemaju ništa konkretno. Da imaju, ne bi dopustili AMD-u da uzima i tih par %, a kamoli da čekaju da im ga smjeste kad za to bude vrijeme. Plasirali budu 10nm(+) mobilne i server modele u taman tolkim količinama da mogu reći da su opet najbolji u svim segmentima, mada tih 10nm(+) nema veze s onim kaj je orginalno zacrtano, a do onda budu (valjda) već nekak izdržali (1 - 2) do izlaska svoje 7nm verzije.

[BusMaster]

Intel Core i9-10980XE Reviewed: Strong Performance, but Can It Beat AMD's Ryzen 9 3950X?

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/in...er-3000-series

... Ako je po ovom, baš i nema puno šanse protiv R9-3950X...))

[Manuel Calavera]

To je HEDT platforma, pravo pitanje je ima li šanse protiv threadrippera...

[The Exiled]

24-core TR 3960X bude stavil točku na i, ako R9 3950X dodatno smanji ionak ne baš preveliku razliku u odnosu na i9-10980XE.

[Immortalis]

Jel se znaju otprilike cijene te 10te serije?

[BusMaster]

Autor Immortalis

Jel se znaju otprilike cijene te 10te serije?

Evo MSRP cijene od Intela, srezali su ih na pola u odnosu na prethodnu gen.,

https://www.cnet.com/news/intel-dram...-gaming-chips/

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us...-3-00-ghz.html

[The Exiled]

According to Intel ...10nm product era has begun, 7nm on track

After years of delays, Intel is finally shipping its 10nm processors in high volume, and the company is preparing to fire up another fab to produce an even larger volume of 10nm products. Along with producing more of the company's existing Ice Lake-U/Y products, Intel is also planning for server CPUs and GPUs as well, with Ice Lake-SP CPU as well as the DG1 GPU already up and running in Intel’s labs. Meanwhile, even farther out, Intel is eyeing 2021 for the rollout of its EUV-based 7nm process. In addition to client Ice Lake CPUs and Agilex FPGAs that are currently shipping, Intel’s 10nm portfolio includes datacenter-grade Xeon (Ice Lake-SP) processors due in the second half of 2020, discrete DG1 GPU(s), an AI inference accelerator, and a 5G base station SoC.

• One thing to keep in mind here is that Intel will use different iterations of its 10nm technology to make different chips.

The company no longer sets ultra-ambitious goals for scaling each node, but attempts to find a right balance between performance, power, cost, and timing. Furthermore, the manufacturer no longer designs products for a particular process, but intends to use the most optimal one it has at the moment. Overall, Intel says that it intends to get back to its usual process technology cadence and introduce brand-new technologies every 2 to 2.5 years, and recapture its process leadership in the future. While Intel also plans to use 7+ and 7++ technologies in 2022 and 2023, the company is already working on its 5nm process and is currently ‘engineering’ it, which means that the path-finding stage has been passed and fundamental things like materials and transistor structures were set.

Izvor: AnandTech

[Manuel Calavera]

GPU bi svakako trebale biti na 10nm

[The Exiled]

Valjda bude, jer konkurencija (1 - 2) očito ne jebe živu silu.

[Lewis]

Cek cek, jel se to meni smao cini ili ovi novi intelovi 109xxx idu na sadasnje socket 2066 ploce (x299) ? Jel moguce da je intel zadrzo socket kroz dvije generacije, mora biti neka kvaka ?

[The Exiled]

Idu na stare uz BIOS/UEFI flash, ali imaš i nove verzije X299 ploča, pa kak kome paše. BTW ploča za tebe.

[Lewis]

Autor The Exiled

Idu na stare uz BIOS/UEFI flash, ali imaš i nove verzije X299 ploča, pa kak kome paše. BTW ploča za tebe.

Ehh ali ta BAS nije za mene jer nema 7 full size PCI-E slotova .

Uzeo sam "normalnu" x299 Sage sa 7 slotova tako da 4 grafe vec rade na njoj . Da mi je bilo dovoljno sa 5 slotova isao bi na TR4 socket ali nazalost oni uopce nemaju ploca sa vise od 5 slotova .

Ali ono stvarno iznenadjenje od Intela da mi na ploci radi serija 7, serija 9 i sad serija 10 procesora, opako ih AMD stisnuo .

Autor The Exiled

Idu na stare uz BIOS/UEFI flash, ali imaš i nove verzije X299 ploča, pa kak kome paše. BTW ploča za tebe.

[The Exiled]

Lako za PCI-E slotove kad imaš LGA-3647 socket. Zajebancija s moje strane, ali kaj se WS ploča općenito tiče, ne kužim ko AMD društvu brani PLX čipovlje, pa da budu u rangu s Intel modelima.

Na taj način bi imali TR CPU s hrpom PCI-E staza za I/O + NVMe diskove i PLX čipove za mnoštvo kartica. Izgleda da jebe lud zbunjenog u tom slučaju.

[Romul]

Jel netko ima kakav izvor da li ce ova nova Intel 109xxx serija izac u maloprodaji do kraja 2019.g?
Googlam ali nista konkretno ne nalazim a koliko se sjecam obecavali su da ce bit do kraja godine kad su ga objavili. Sad neki muk odjednom...

[MadBoY]

Mobilni procesori su vec izasli, a za desktop se uvijek pricalo nekad u 2020.

[Manuel Calavera]

Neće. Q1 najranije

[Romul]

Aha,onda sam ja nesto krivo shvatio...Nije bas uobicajeno,barem mi se cini, da Intel objavi kompletnu liniju sa svim tehnicikim detaljima pogotovo sto su cak i MSRP izbacili a da izlazak bude tek nakon ispada mozda i pol godine.

Vidim da AMD je napokon napunio zalihe 3900x a mozda do kraja godine dojde i taj 3950x kao alternativa toj Intelovoj seriji

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Autor Romul

Jel netko ima kakav izvor da li ce ova nova Intel 109xxx serija izac u maloprodaji do kraja 2019.g?
Googlam ali nista konkretno ne nalazim a koliko se sjecam obecavali su da ce bit do kraja godine kad su ga objavili. Sad neki muk odjednom...

Evo.
Srezali cijene 50%, pitam se zašto :-)

[Manuel Calavera]

To je HEDT platforma i neki tobože testovi su leakali i ranije. Mislim da Romula zanima desktop za smrtnike

[The Exiled]

Ryzen 9 3950X vs. entire Intel Cascade Lake-X lineup: When price cuts aren't enough

[The Exiled]

Intel Rocket Lake-S desktop processor comes in core counts up to 8, Gen12 iGPU included

Intel's 11th generation Core Rocket Lake-S desktop processor will come in core-counts only up to 8, even as its predecessor, Comet Lake-S, goes up to 10. Both Comet Lake-S and Rocket Lake-S are 14nm chips. Comet Lake-S comes with core counts of up to 10, a TDP of up to 125 Watts, Gen 9LP iGPU with 48 execution units, and native support for up to 128 GB of DDR4-2667. The Rocket Lake-S silicon is interesting. Rumored to be yet another derivative of Skylake, it features up to 8 CPU cores, the same 125W maximum TDP, but swanky Gen12 iGPU with 32 execution units. The memory controller is also upgraded, which supports DDR4-2933 natively. There is no Ice Lake-H or Ice Lake-S in sight (no mainstream notebook or mainstream desktop implementations), ditto Tiger Lake. For the foreseeable future, Intel will only make quad-core designs of the two 10nm microarchitectures. Rocket Lake-S is slated for 2021 when, hopefully, we'll see Intel escape the 14nm black hole.

Izvor: TechPowerUp