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Staro 19.11.2024., 14:38   #3811
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Najgore od svega što sam tada (2001e) bio jako uporan i uvjeren da je to normalno jer sam htio imati ''najnovije'' windowse i unatoč tome što su mi jedni govorili da koristim 98 SE, a drugi Win2000 (ovi su bili navodno otporni na metke u ono doba, stabilnost prije svega), ja sam inzistirao na ovom poluproizvodu.
Doslovno svaki mjesec min 1 reinstall. Izađu driveri za geforce, pa onda žicanje susjeda da mi ih skine jer nisam imao ni dial up, pa ih instaliram i skrše se win i tako ukrug.
Samo podsjetnik da su u ono doba npr driveri za grafu značili da li uopće možeš ili ne možeš pokrenuti igru (stalno se moralo updateat), a ne kao danas ''game ready''.
Iskreno, drago mi je da su ta vremena iza nas...
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Staro 19.11.2024., 17:14   #3812
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Da, da, Win2000 je i danas "otporan na metke", nema šanse da se tek tako razlete.
Samo jedan od primjera, godinama su ga koristile pumpe goriva kako za kase tako za točionike
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Staro 19.11.2024., 18:00   #3813
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Staro 19.11.2024., 19:34   #3814
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W2K mi je bio dugo vremena (do Win 7 ) defacto jedini Windows koji sam zelio koristiti. No nonsense , je da je bilo pain in the ass ponekad neke stvari poslozit sa driverima al kad si poslozio - sustav je bio hebeno stabilan. Win10 i 11 imaju tu bazu ali su natrpali overhead gore...sto potrebno a sto ne (danas mi se 11-ca tijekom videokonferencije restartala iako su aktivni sati slozeni od 6-17). Jebaj ga
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Staro 19.11.2024., 19:53   #3815
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Ima dosta očitih upgrejda 10 prema 7, kao npr. dugoročne performanse. Sedmica hoćeš nećeš svakih 2-3 godine max sam morao reinstalirati. U pravilu jednom godišnje, jer bi se uvijek nešto zakrcalo, počelo vidno usporavati i sl. Naročito nakon friške instalacije je bio više nego očit napredak. Kod desetke isto nisam primijetio. Nakon 3 godine korištenja na poslovnom laptopu napravio reinstalaciju (od nule) i nisam primijetio bilo kakvu promjenu.

Što se tiče ovog mog kompa, ne znam koja mu je anamneza. Malo prije sam ga startao na novo (nakon što sam jučer odradio 700MB updejta, danas opet ima 500, budem malo pričekao) i opet, odmah po dolasku na desktop, ispala mreža. Odem u try, kliknem na network manager, disconnect, pričekam 5 sekundi, connect i eto magično radi.

Prekjučer mi je pak sve živo bilo izletilo. USB portovi, mreža, a sve nakon šta sam odspojio neki stari SATA HDD koji nije bio mountan a spojen je izvana preko ono PCI SATA adaptera/prolaza. Bio sam neke podatke vadio vanka. Nakon reboota sve je bilo OK.

Mislim da ću probati neku distribucija koja ne nudi stotine MB updejta svaki dan. Nema mi ovo smisla. Za vikend bih se mogao prisiliti da malo koristim desetku da vidim hoće li tamo biti takvih problema, iako rekao bih da ne.
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Staro 19.11.2024., 20:18   #3816
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Ima dosta očitih upgrejda 10 prema 7, kao npr. dugoročne performanse. Sedmica hoćeš nećeš svakih 2-3 godine max sam morao reinstalirati. U pravilu jednom godišnje, jer bi se uvijek nešto zakrcalo, počelo vidno usporavati i sl. Naročito nakon friške instalacije je bio više nego očit napredak. Kod desetke isto nisam primijetio. Nakon 3 godine korištenja na poslovnom laptopu napravio reinstalaciju (od nule) i nisam primijetio bilo kakvu promjenu.

Što se tiče ovog mog kompa, ne znam koja mu je anamneza. Malo prije sam ga startao na novo (nakon što sam jučer odradio 700MB updejta, danas opet ima 500, budem malo pričekao) i opet, odmah po dolasku na desktop, ispala mreža. Odem u try, kliknem na network manager, disconnect, pričekam 5 sekundi, connect i eto magično radi.

Prekjučer mi je pak sve živo bilo izletilo. USB portovi, mreža, a sve nakon šta sam odspojio neki stari SATA HDD koji nije bio mountan a spojen je izvana preko ono PCI SATA adaptera/prolaza. Bio sam neke podatke vadio vanka. Nakon reboota sve je bilo OK.

Mislim da ću probati neku distribucija koja ne nudi stotine MB updejta svaki dan. Nema mi ovo smisla. Za vikend bih se mogao prisiliti da malo koristim desetku da vidim hoće li tamo biti takvih problema, iako rekao bih da ne.

Pajdo ti imas problem najvjerojatnije sa hardwerom ne softwerom. I sa tim isprobavanjem distri gubis bez veze vrijeme i zivce. Stavi Windows i ne tvrdoglavi. Ak tamo imas isti problem > hardwer sere. Ak ne > Linux driveri (i u tom slucaju najcesce nema pomoci jer driveri = kernel i sve distre koriste iste). Simple as that. Hebote spremas se za usranu instalaciju Windowsa ko gladni srat. Instaliraj i bok.
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Staro 19.11.2024., 20:28   #3817
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Čovječe dragi, je li moguće da ne shvaćaš da imam dual boot windows 10? Pa koliko puta sam napisao? Koliko još puta napisati? Ja više ništa ne razumijem.

Imam instaliran windows 10, svo jebeno sranje mi je na EXT4 i tlaka mi se prebacivati na windows 10.
Imam instaliran windows 10, svo jebeno sranje mi je na EXT4 i tlaka mi se prebacivati na windows 10.
Imam instaliran windows 10, svo jebeno sranje mi je na EXT4 i tlaka mi se prebacivati na windows 10.
Imam instaliran windows 10, svo jebeno sranje mi je na EXT4 i tlaka mi se prebacivati na windows 10.
Imam instaliran windows 10, svo jebeno sranje mi je na EXT4 i tlaka mi se prebacivati na windows 10.
Imam instaliran windows 10, svo jebeno sranje mi je na EXT4 i tlaka mi se prebacivati na windows 10.
Imam instaliran windows 10, svo jebeno sranje mi je na EXT4 i tlaka mi se prebacivati na windows 10.

Je li sada jasno?
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Staro 19.11.2024., 20:43   #3818
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Ext4Fsd radi bez problema, ako ti za testiranje kroz Windows OS treba pristup ext4 diskovima.
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Staro 19.11.2024., 21:26   #3819
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Stavio Ubuntu 16.04 kad je izašao na jedan strojček doma da testiram ZFS out of the box. Osam i pol godina kasnije, danas taj stroj i dalje radi spojen na TV samo što je gore 24.04 LTS.

Nikada nije bio reinstaliran Samo ‘do-release-upgrade’

Kingston V300 60GB koji sam kupio tu na Tržnici prije 10ak godina mu je boot drive.

Upgradeati Windoze 4-5 generacija i da sve radi? I don’t think so
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Staro 19.11.2024., 21:39   #3820
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Koristio sam BTRFS driver u windowsima, i to je OK radilo. Nisam znao za ovaj Ext4Fsd, prije par godina to nisam nalazio.
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Ja isto glasam na tomekovu dijagnozu, hw zahebava (najvjerojatnije mobo),
mislim da je zaslužila da je buldožer (obavezno sa gusjenicama) ritualno pregazi
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Čovječe dragi, je li moguće da ne shvaćaš da imam dual boot windows 10? Pa koliko puta sam napisao? Koliko još puta napisati? Ja više ništa ne razumijem.

Imam instaliran windows 10, svo jebeno sranje mi je na EXT4 i tlaka mi se prebacivati na windows 10.
Imam instaliran windows 10, svo jebeno sranje mi je na EXT4 i tlaka mi se prebacivati na windows 10.
Imam instaliran windows 10, svo jebeno sranje mi je na EXT4 i tlaka mi se prebacivati na windows 10.
Imam instaliran windows 10, svo jebeno sranje mi je na EXT4 i tlaka mi se prebacivati na windows 10.
Imam instaliran windows 10, svo jebeno sranje mi je na EXT4 i tlaka mi se prebacivati na windows 10.
Imam instaliran windows 10, svo jebeno sranje mi je na EXT4 i tlaka mi se prebacivati na windows 10.
Imam instaliran windows 10, svo jebeno sranje mi je na EXT4 i tlaka mi se prebacivati na windows 10.

Je li sada jasno?
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Instaliraj win 11 pro i deri peri a ne te fore s hibernacijama i usb stickovima, stisnes start i sleep i tvoj binarni nece moc vidjet tvoj history i problem rijesen.

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Kad smo vec kod korisnih postova, bija sam u Lidlu danas, potrosija 50€, osta gladan.

Izbrisa btw Zorin OS.

Slučajno skroz.
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Kad smo vec kod korisnih postova, bija sam u Lidlu danas, potrosija 50€, osta gladan.

Izbrisa btw Zorin OS.

Slučajno skroz.
A kad je sve poskupilo, e...a sta ces kila Lino Lade (hebes kapitalisticku Nutellu, kupujmo domace!) vise nije tak jeftina a kamoli kila banana ili jabuka...i onda ce jos reci "jedi zdravo".

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Čovječe dragi, je li moguće da ne shvaćaš da imam dual boot windows 10? Pa koliko puta sam napisao? Koliko još puta napisati? Ja više ništa ne razumijem.

Imam instaliran windows 10, svo jebeno sranje mi je na EXT4 i tlaka mi se prebacivati na windows 10.
Imam instaliran windows 10, svo jebeno sranje mi je na EXT4 i tlaka mi se prebacivati na windows 10.
Imam instaliran windows 10, svo jebeno sranje mi je na EXT4 i tlaka mi se prebacivati na windows 10.
Imam instaliran windows 10, svo jebeno sranje mi je na EXT4 i tlaka mi se prebacivati na windows 10.
Imam instaliran windows 10, svo jebeno sranje mi je na EXT4 i tlaka mi se prebacivati na windows 10.
Imam instaliran windows 10, svo jebeno sranje mi je na EXT4 i tlaka mi se prebacivati na windows 10.
Imam instaliran windows 10, svo jebeno sranje mi je na EXT4 i tlaka mi se prebacivati na windows 10.

Je li sada jasno?


Pa kaj onda kukas? Testiraj kao sto ti je vec receno.
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Ode i Linux Kernel u vrazju mater radi narcicistickih kretena (rezime oko 20:00 pa na dalje)...

Linux Code of Conduct Board Blocks File System Changes - YouTube


@Bubba > sad kuzim.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avh9u31AgXo


Hebem ti tu feministicku LGBTQ+ kugu u IT-u (Hint: 18:20).
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Misliš na ovog youtubera?
Lik je toliko iritantan da se ne da slušati niti gledati... odustao na početku prvog videa.
Valjda opslužuje ove generacije kojima se ne da čitati pa im se sve mora prepričavati
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Misliš na ovog youtubera?
Lik je toliko iritantan da se ne da slušati niti gledati... odustao na početku prvog videa.
Valjda opslužuje ove generacije kojima se ne da čitati pa im se sve mora prepričavati



Primjecujem da je Lunduke zbilja "Rabbit hole".
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O i ovo:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avh9u31AgXo


Hebem ti tu feministicku LGBTQ+ kugu u IT-u (Hint: 18:20).

Brave fixes this
Nije da ga koristim, ali imam primisli u zadnje vrijeme....
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Je li moguće na laptopu koristiti integriranu grafu za sam OS, a dodatnu diskretnu propustiti za virtualizaciju?
Malo više detalja, Lenovo P51, ima grafu u procesoru, mislim da je Intel 630 ili nešto takvo, i ima dodatnu Nvidiu Quadro. Vrtim Debian Bookworm KDE i na njemu imam instaliran Qemu-kvm i za GUI virt-manager. Host OSovi mi rade uredno.

Htio bih da mi laptop koristi integriranu grafičku za Debian, ali bih htio i propustiti Nvidiu da je Qemu može direktno koristiti kako bi je guest OS (Win10 u ovom slučaju) mogao upotrijebiti za grafičke programe.

Pratio sam ovaj tutorial, jest za Proxmox, ali trebalo bi biti isto :
https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/com...u_passthrough/
Sve navedene korake sam odradio, našao IDeve on Nvidia GPU i Nvidia HD audio device, i dao ih vfio-pci da ih hendla. U Windowsima je instaliran Qemu guest additions kao i driveri za guest OS.

I ne ide. Moram blacklistati driver od Noveau (koji Debian po defaultu koristi) i od Nvidie, međutim kad to napravim Debian se ne podiže, stane na bootu i zaledi se, ako bootam iz drugog OSa i maknem ta dva drivera iz blackliste onda se opet podigne normalno.

Ako napravim sve isto, ali ne blacklistam Noveau onda mogu instalirati Win10 guest, dodati mu Nvidiu kao host PCI device, Windowsi je čak detektiraju, ali nakon instalacije Nvidia drivera Windowsi kažu da ne mogu pokrenuti karticu iako je vide kao Nvidiu, model je ispravan, driveri instalirani.
Mogu navesti još detalja, ali zanima me je li ovo što pokušavam uopće izvedivo? Mogu li natjerati Debian da isključivo koristi Intelovu karticu, a Nvidiu da pusti na miru kako bih je mogao propustiti u VM.

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Vjerojatno ces morati modificirati ROM od grafe i dodati ga u VM config da bi uspjesno instalirao drivere na guestu. Ne dira se grafa, nema fleshanja hardvera, samo neke promjene na ROM-u sto je spomenuto i u tom linkanom topicu. Ovo zadnje sto si naveo, kada udjes u device manager - nvidia kartica, da li ti napise code 43 ili tako nesto?

Jedino nisam 100% siguran dal mi je radila integrusa u tom setupu. Kao da mi nesto zvoni da treba dodati intel drivere na hosta, ali sad bas nagadjam.
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Vjerojatno ces morati modificirati ROM od grafe i dodati ga u VM config da bi uspjesno instalirao drivere na guestu. Ne dira se grafa, nema fleshanja hardvera, samo neke promjene na ROM-u sto je spomenuto i u tom linkanom topicu. Ovo zadnje sto si naveo, kada udjes u device manager - nvidia kartica, da li ti napise code 43 ili tako nesto?

Jedino nisam 100% siguran dal mi je radila integrusa u tom setupu. Kao da mi nesto zvoni da treba dodati intel drivere na hosta, ali sad bas nagadjam.

Yup, dobijem Error 43 u host Windowsima u device manageru kad otvorim detalje od Nvidije. Pogledat ću onda i to sa modanjem ROMa, možda je to muči. Thanks.
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Nemoj odmah odustati ako ne upali iz prve, probaj sve redom rebootati, pogotovo win guestu daj vise sansi jer kao kroz maglu mi je da se promjena nije htjela odmah primiti i onda je automagicno proradilo. Ne bi se cudio da su bas winsi bili ta magija.

Pogledam ako sam si dokumentirao nesto pametno oko tog procesa pa sheram kroz sat vremena u editu
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Nemoj odmah odustati ako ne upali iz prve, probaj sve redom rebootati, pogotovo win guestu daj vise sansi jer kao kroz maglu mi je da se promjena nije htjela odmah primiti i onda je automagicno proradilo. Ne bi se cudio da su bas winsi bili ta magija.

Ma nema frke, bavim se time usput već par dana pa ću se još pozabaviti oko toga jer bi mi super bilo imati Linux kao base OS, a invazivne Adobeove i ostale grafičke aplikacije vrtiti u izoliranom VMu sa potpunom podrškom od strane grafičke.
Probao sam razne druge opcije, VirtualBox na Windowsima, u Linuxu, pa VMWare Workstation Pro isto na Windowsima i Linuxu, ali svugdje je performance hit dosta velik u VMu pa mi se čini da je passthrough jedina opcija koja bi mogla to popraviti, osim naravno pokretanja programa na bare-metal instalaciji Windowsa.

Naletio sam sad i na neki info da ako kartica službeno ne podržava passthrough da će driver odbiti raditi ako shvati da je u VMu, pa da ima fora da se od host OSa sakrije taj info. Probati ću i to.
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Meni je jedno vrijeme Win gaming OS bio u VM-u, ali sam mu passtruao jedan kompletan nvme disk i gpu. Disk sam mu dodijelio jer sam gore vec imao postojecu instalaciju Winsa i to je uredno radilo kad se dodalo u VM. Host je bio Proxmox pa mi nije trebao iGPU. Hocu samo reci da nisam primjetio neki znacajan performace drop u igrama. To je bio dosta star komp sa 1060 grafom pa bi svakako osjetio vise od 10% gubitaka u performansama (I guess).

E sad, nisam nasao nista konkretno za tvoj primjer, ali sam nasao ovo:

Mali update na vec linkani tutorial, ako se ne varam, to sam izvukao iz postojecih komentara na tom topicu:
https://github.com/TechaNima/ProxBox/blob/main/Tutorial

I upute kako na Alder Lakeu virtualizirati vise inacica GPU-a i dodijeliti ih na vise VM-ova. Mislim da sam ovo htio probati na HD630 i nisam daleko dogurao, mozda nije bilo kompatibilno s tom generacijom, ne znam vise ni sam. Baci oko, ako nista drugo ovaj blog je rudnik znanja:
https://www.derekseaman.com/2024/07/...lder-lake.html
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Ekipa...Blueetooth me na starom Aceru V3-574G posteno prca. Kernel ga ni ne detektira, nekad davno je radilo al danas vise ne, probao sa vise modernih distri. Probao sam nekaj kemijat sa sleep statusom ali iskreno neda mi se više googlat.
Code:
3:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter (rev 20) 
        Subsystem: Foxconn International, Inc. Device e08e 
        Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+ 
        Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx- 
        Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes 
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 55 
        Region 0: Memory at c4000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2M] 
        Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 3 
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=375mA PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+) 
                Status: D0 NoSoftRst- PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME- 
        Capabilities: [50] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/8 Maskable+ 64bit- 
                Address: fee004d8  Data: 0000 
                Masking: 000000fe  Pending: 00000000 
        Capabilities: [70] Express (v2) Endpoint, IntMsgNum 0 
                DevCap: MaxPayload 256 bytes, PhantFunc 0, Latency L0s unlimited, L1 <64us 
                        ExtTag- AttnBtn- AttnInd- PwrInd- RBE+ FLReset- SlotPowerLimit 10W TEE-IO- 
                DevCtl: CorrErr+ NonFatalErr+ FatalErr+ UnsupReq+ 
                        RlxdOrd+ ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop- 
                        MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 512 bytes 
                DevSta: CorrErr- NonFatalErr- FatalErr- UnsupReq- AuxPwr+ TransPend- 
                LnkCap: Port #0, Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x1, ASPM L0s L1, Exit Latency L0s <4us, L1 <64us 
                        ClockPM+ Surprise- LLActRep- BwNot- ASPMOptComp+ 
                LnkCtl: ASPM L1 Enabled; RCB 64 bytes, LnkDisable- CommClk+ 
                        ExtSynch- ClockPM+ AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt- 
                LnkSta: Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x1 
                        TrErr- Train- SlotClk+ DLActive- BWMgmt- ABWMgmt- 
                DevCap2: Completion Timeout: Not Supported, TimeoutDis+ NROPrPrP- LTR+ 
                         10BitTagComp- 10BitTagReq- OBFF Via message, ExtFmt- EETLPPrefix- 
                         EmergencyPowerReduction Not Supported, EmergencyPowerReductionInit- 
                         FRS- TPHComp- ExtTPHComp- 
                         AtomicOpsCap: 32bit- 64bit- 128bitCAS- 
                DevCtl2: Completion Timeout: 50us to 50ms, TimeoutDis- 
                         AtomicOpsCtl: ReqEn- 
                         IDOReq- IDOCompl- LTR+ EmergencyPowerReductionReq- 
                         10BitTagReq- OBFF Disabled, EETLPPrefixBlk- 
                LnkCap2: Supported Link Speeds: 2.5GT/s, Crosslink- Retimer- 2Retimers- DRS- 
                LnkCtl2: Target Link Speed: 2.5GT/s, EnterCompliance- SpeedDis- 
                         Transmit Margin: Normal Operating Range, EnterModifiedCompliance- ComplianceSOS- 
                         Compliance Preset/De-emphasis: -6dB de-emphasis, 0dB preshoot 
                LnkSta2: Current De-emphasis Level: -6dB, EqualizationComplete- EqualizationPhase1- 
                         EqualizationPhase2- EqualizationPhase3- LinkEqualizationRequest- 
                         Retimer- 2Retimers- CrosslinkRes: unsupported 
        Capabilities: [100 v2] Advanced Error Reporting 
                UESta:  DLP- SDES- TLP- FCP- CmpltTO- CmpltAbrt- UnxCmplt- RxOF- MalfTLP- 
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                        PoisonTLPBlocked- DMWrReqBlocked- IDECheck- MisIDETLP- PCRC_CHECK- TLPXlatBlocked- 
                UEMsk:  DLP- SDES- TLP- FCP- CmpltTO- CmpltAbrt- UnxCmplt- RxOF- MalfTLP- 
                        ECRC- UnsupReq- ACSViol- UncorrIntErr+ BlockedTLP- AtomicOpBlocked- TLPBlockedErr- 
                        PoisonTLPBlocked- DMWrReqBlocked- IDECheck- MisIDETLP- PCRC_CHECK- TLPXlatBlocked- 
                UESvrt: DLP+ SDES+ TLP- FCP+ CmpltTO- CmpltAbrt- UnxCmplt- RxOF+ MalfTLP+ 
                        ECRC- UnsupReq- ACSViol- UncorrIntErr+ BlockedTLP- AtomicOpBlocked- TLPBlockedErr- 
                        PoisonTLPBlocked- DMWrReqBlocked- IDECheck- MisIDETLP- PCRC_CHECK- TLPXlatBlocked- 
                CESta:  RxErr- BadTLP- BadDLLP- Rollover- Timeout- AdvNonFatalErr- CorrIntErr- HeaderOF- 
                CEMsk:  RxErr- BadTLP- BadDLLP- Rollover- Timeout- AdvNonFatalErr+ CorrIntErr+ HeaderOF- 
                AERCap: First Error Pointer: 00, ECRCGenCap- ECRCGenEn- ECRCChkCap- ECRCChkEn- 
                        MultHdrRecCap- MultHdrRecEn- TLPPfxPres- HdrLogCap- 
                HeaderLog: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 
        Capabilities: [148 v1] Virtual Channel 
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                        Ctrl:   Enable+ ID=0 ArbSelect=Fixed TC/VC=ff 
                        Status: NegoPending- InProgress- 
        Capabilities: [168 v1] Device Serial Number 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 
        Capabilities: [178 v1] Latency Tolerance Reporting 
                Max snoop latency: 3145728ns 
                Max no snoop latency: 3145728ns 
        Capabilities: [180 v1] L1 PM Substates 
                L1SubCap: PCI-PM_L1.2+ PCI-PM_L1.1+ ASPM_L1.2+ ASPM_L1.1+ L1_PM_Substates+ 
                          PortCommonModeRestoreTime=50us PortTPowerOnTime=10us 
                L1SubCtl1: PCI-PM_L1.2+ PCI-PM_L1.1+ ASPM_L1.2+ ASPM_L1.1+ 
                           T_CommonMode=0us LTR1.2_Threshold=66560ns 
                L1SubCtl2: T_PwrOn=10us 
        Kernel driver in use: ath10k_pci 
        Kernel modules: ath10k_pci


Ako ima tko još koju pametnu ideju kaj da sprobam da čudo prodela vičite...u suprotnom trebam preporuku alternativnog internog WLAN/BT modula za lap koji radi na Linuxu bez beda.
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Uf, sretno....
Izbjegavam BT na linuxu jer je koma podrška, pogotovo za novije standarde.
Ako ti što pomaže, provrti listu chipsetova, npr. meni je ovaj site pomogao oko odabira USB adaptera:
https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/bluetooth
Trebalo mi nešto baš za spajanje BT LE senzora na HASS i na kraju završio s jednim od ovih CSR. RTLovi su većinom problematični, pogotovo ovi novi 5.3+

Za interne u laptopu nemam pojma što bi ti predložio
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Meni je jedno vrijeme Win gaming OS bio u VM-u, ali sam mu passtruao jedan kompletan nvme disk i gpu. Disk sam mu dodijelio jer sam gore vec imao postojecu instalaciju Winsa i to je uredno radilo kad se dodalo u VM. Host je bio Proxmox pa mi nije trebao iGPU. Hocu samo reci da nisam primjetio neki znacajan performace drop u igrama. To je bio dosta star komp sa 1060 grafom pa bi svakako osjetio vise od 10% gubitaka u performansama (I guess).
Kako onda pristupaš tom VMu za gaming, preko RDPa?

Nego, probao sam i ja jučer složiti na jednom Haswelu sa Nvidiom 1060 Proxmox i passthrough kartice prema Windows VMu, proradilo odmah bez problema, pratio ovaj tutorial :

https://www.reddit.com/r/Proxmox/com..._in_2_minutes/

Sa P51 laptopom sam se još pomučio, ali nisam daleko dogurao. Propusti se kartica, vfio je uredno hendla, ali u guest OSu dobijam Error 43. Probao sam i dump ROMa, ali kartica mi ne da, ni preko Linux shella, ni nvflash ni nvflashk ni preko GPU-Z, jednostavno kao da je ROM zaštićen od dumpanja, komanda za unlock ne pomaže. Zasad sam odustao pa ću probati opet kad uhvatim vremena, vjerojatno ću puknuti Proxmox pa ako ni s njim ne ide onda je vjerojatno ta kartica previše tvrdoglava za passthrough.

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Mali update na vec linkani tutorial, ako se ne varam, to sam izvukao iz postojecih komentara na tom topicu:
https://github.com/TechaNima/ProxBox/blob/main/Tutorial

Baci oko, ako nista drugo ovaj blog je rudnik znanja:
https://www.derekseaman.com/2024/07/...lder-lake.html
Spremljeno za idući test, thanks.
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Kako onda pristupaš tom VMu za gaming, preko RDPa?
Direktno ubodem monitor u GPU ili preko Sunshinea kada sam streamao na tv ili se s laptopa spajao za rad na "daljinu" (citaj, iz dnevnog boravka). RDP radi jaaako lose, Sunshine+Moonlight kombo rade maltene bez laga i glitcheva. Taj VM mi je bio ujedno i glavni daily OS kojeg sam koristio i ponasao se kao normalan OS (fizicki GPU, fizicki NVME disk). Cak sam ga mogao normalno i rebootati kao klasicni PC. Samo sam morao paziti kada iz tog VM-a rebootam Proxmox - onda se ugasi i taj VM pa malo duze cekam da se digne sve skupa.

Ovo mi je bio eksperiment da klasicni desktoo pc malo opametim i prosirim mu primjenu, da ne kupujem drugi hardver za selfhostanje i thinkering.


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Sa P51 laptopom sam se još pomučio, ali nisam daleko dogurao.
Mozda je kod laptopa kompletno drukcija prica, nisam o tome razmisljao :/
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