Nadolazeći AMD socketi, ploče i procesori

[Mladenxy]

Za veliku većinu? Sad kad većina sa ocvalih gtx 1060 krene masovno na apu ..aj ok

[The Exiled]

Zajebavaš Mladene još otprije dvije-tri stranice. I otpočetka slažeš priču kak to nije za nove igre, pa jebote samo ti misliš to, nitko osim tebe nema taj dojam.

Isto tak, nitko sa GTX 1060 neće prijeći na RDNA 2 iGPU, niti je za takve zamišljeno, jer nemaju potrebe, ali glavno da se ti loviš za takve scenarije.

Sve ostali koji se žele nešto igrati, a ne daju 10.000 kn za ĐiTiEks pethiljada, mogu skužiti da RDNA 2 iGPU nudi nekog vraga.

Autor The Exiled

Pričamo o nadolazećim RDNA 2 iGPU rješenjima koja će u svemu biti bolja od trenutnih Vega 8 iGPU modela. Neće se na tome vrtjeti nešto s čime RTX 3090 i RX 6900 XT muku muče, jer eto - mora biti sve do kraja na 4K.

Dan-danas sudeći po Steamu, 1080p je najpopularnija rezolucija, dok su GTX 1050 Ti, 1060 i 1650 najpopularnija GPU rješenja.

Obzirom da Vega 8 u 5700G može vrtjeti dosta toga, onda je sasvim jasno da će nova i bolja RDNA 2 iGPU APU rješenja moći pokrenuti sasvim pristojan broj sličica u sekudni.

[Mladenxy]

A jebiga rtx 1060 je bila srednja žalost prije šest godina, pa reko sad dolazi novi igpu koji će to potopiti, ha ha

[stef]

Vega 8 je već bila dovoljna za Fortnite i Rocket League u 720p. Tak da ak ovo dogura do 1080, puna šaka brade. RDR bu malo pričekao.

[The Exiled]

Autor stef

Ne znam što intel pametno nudi do 25W, ali rekao bih ne puno.

Nemaju ništa konkretno, jedino i5-12450H (4P + 4E/12T), ali to je već 45W, tak da sve po starom kod Intela.

Eventualno Core i5 i i3 U modeli sa 2P + 4E konfiguracijom i 29W, ali ko zna kak bude to ispalo u OEM izdanju.

[MadBoY]

Pitanje je hoće li doći na desktop ovi modeli koje su sad predstavili s RDNA2 iGPU. Jer za desktop bi navodno iGPU trebao biti unutar IO jezgre ali nema informacija za sad koliko će CU imati.

Autor Odinarius

Jel se vama činilo da je ona Halo Infinite prezentacija za Zen 4 izgledala kao s konzola? Ono nije igrano s mišem

https://youtu.be/_jX-hKvUQDU?t=2405

Prikopčali gamepad pa igrali. Ali ono što je bitnije od tog je kad Lisa kaže "... and I can tell you that all of those Zen 4 cores are running at 5 GHz...". Eto ga, opet kreće 5 GHz hype, ovaj put all-core 5 GHz .

[The Exiled]

IMHO, mogu složiti desktop verziju Ryzen 6000 APU modela, po uzoru na dosadašnja (Ryzen 4000 i 5000) monolitna izdanja i to je to. Isti mobilni čip, samo prepakiran za AM4 desktop.

[MadBoY]

Vjerojatnije je da će to napraviti za AM5, zbog podrške za DDR5 od koje će iGPU dosta profitirati. Zanimljivo je da 6800U ima za 800 MHZ viši base clock u odnosu na 5800U. Ne vjerujem da je to došlo samo zbog prelaska na N6, već više zbog promjene u arhitekturi.

[The Exiled]

Mogli bi i tak, kad sve te LEGO kockice pašu kak god se okrene. RDNA 2 iGPU bude svakak u AM5 Zen 4 pakiranju, ali nitko se ne bi bunil da slože npr. Ryzen 7 6800/6700G i Ryzen 5 6600G APU za AM4.

[stef]

Autor MadBoY

Prikopčali gamepad pa igrali. Ali ono što je bitnije od tog je kad Lisa kaže "... and I can tell you that all of those Zen 4 cores are running at 5 GHz...". Eto ga, opet kreće 5 GHz hype, ovaj put all-core 5 GHz .

Ovo je Hardware Unboxed išao provjeravati s AMD-om .... samo jedan core . Ali možda je svaki put drugi, pa se može reći da u nekom vremenu svi idu do 5.
Odgledao rezime preze, izgleda zbrzano ... ko da nisu naučili čitat s blesimetra.

[Eladio]

Ako je joypad dobar za gaming, dobar je onda i APU

HTPC gaming, imam jedan takav i sluzio je svrsi dok mali nije dobio svoj komp.. roblox, gtaV, spore, i among us i slicne igre rade i to je sve sto klinca interesira, radi ili ne ..

[virty]

Meni je 1060 dostatan za MMORPG igranje, ne minjam je dok god ne rikne.
Za ostalo imam PS5 i Switch

[Blue Spirit]

AMD Socket AM5 a "Long-lived Platform": CEO https://www.techpowerup.com/290648/a...d-platform-ceo






0:00 Intro
1:11 HDMI 2.1a
1:19 Sony quantum dot OLED TVs
1:39 New display technology (mini LED, micro LED, Neo QLED, and OLED EX)
1:55 Sony tv camera concept
2:05 Samsung TV NFT integration
2:15 Remote charges over radio waves
2:19 Samsung Tizen TV os update
2:48 LG 42-inch OLED TV
3:10 Intel Alder Lake CPU
3:48 AMD Ryzen 7000 desktop processor
3:59 AMD Ryzen 6000 laptop processor
4:10 Nvidia 3090 Ti, 3080 Ti, 3070 Ti
4:26 Nvidia G-Sync monitor update
4:39 Dell XPS 13 plus
4:57 Lenovo ThinkPad Z-series
5:18 Lenovo ThinkBook Plus Gen 3
5:31 ASUS 17-inch foldable OLED laptop
5:40 ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 and G15
5:52 Mercedes-Benz EQXX electric concept
6:15 Color-changing BMW iX Flow
6:36 Sony Vision S electric SUV
6:39 More car announcements
7:04 Electric Chevy Silverado
7:20 Electric Equinox and Blazer
7:29 BMW iX M60 SUV
7:55 Google CES announcements
8:47 Samsung Galaxy S21 FE
9:03 OnePlus 10 Pro spec announcement
9:27 Lightning round
11:18 Conclusion

[MadBoY]

Interview: AMD’s Dr. Lisa Su talks Ryzen 7000, AM5, RDNA 2, and more

Paul Alcorn with Tom's Hardware: AMD committed to the AM4 platform, the AM4 socket for quite a long time. Can you guys give us any idea of how long you will stick with AM5?

Dr. Lisa Su: Well, we've been extremely pleased with how AM4 has evolved….we said we would keep that socket for a long time and we have. We continue to believe that it has been good for the community and frankly, it's been good for us as well. As we bring things along, it was time to do a socket transition for the new I/O in the new technology, but I think strategy-wise, it should be similar. I don't have an exact number of years but I would say that you should expect that AM5 will be a long-lived platform as AM4 has been. I think we're expecting AM4 to stay in the marketplace for quite some years and it will be sort of an overlapping type of thing.

Jackie Thomas, TechRadar: In the past, AMD has always had a lot of really affordable products. But over the last couple of years, that's kind of stopped happening. Especially with Ryzen 5000, where we still don't have anything lower-end than the Ryzen 5 5600X that is a Zen 3. Is there any reason why that keeps happening, because that happened with the Ryzen 3000 series too?

David McAfee, AMD CVP of Product Management: What I would say first and foremost is that we do understand the broad market needs, and servicing each of those markets with the right product that has the right capability, and delivers the right experience is very, very important to us. And so when you're looking at a product like the Ryzen 5 5600X, imagine scaling that to lower price points with different capability; it may not satisfy the needs of what that that segment is really going after at the end of the day. And that's where we see some of our APU products, or in many cases, n-minus-one products stepping in and filling some of the more mainstream and value-oriented price points across the portfolio. I think that one of the things you've seen from us more and more on the notebook side is addressing some of those broader needs in the portfolio. And the use, even as we launched the 6000-series products this year, refreshing our 5000 series, U-series mobile parts to address a broader range of price points in the market, has been a strategy that we've used for a couple of years now. And leveraging those economies of scale and manufacturing learnings to stretch the price point coverage, and system price point coverage that we're able to deliver while still maintaining the quality of experience that we want to deliver to that end user has been the approach that we've used over the past couple of years to broaden the market coverage that we can deliver.

Dr. Lisa Su: But let me just say, though, Jackie, you're making a point that we've heard from the community. So, I hear you. And I think as we look at the product portfolio going forward, I think trying to fill out, let's call it some of the, you know, below 5600 lineup, is something that is on our minds. So your comment is well taken.

Čini mi se da za AM5 ne treba u skorije vrijeme očekivati neke pristupačne Zen 4 procesore. Možda ubace Zen 3+ APU modele da služe kao "low-end" modeli ali Zen 4 vjerojatno ne treba očekivati u modelima ispod $350.
Sad na Ryzen 3000 modele gledaju kao modele koji popunjavaju rupu ispod 250 eura kod Ryzen 5000 modela.

[Odinarius]

Nešto moraju napraviti jer 12400F im ubija sve ispod 300$.

[stef]

Ne znam što mogu tu ponuditi. Pa R5 3600 je skuplji od toga . Ne znam jel se taj proc još uvijek proizvodi, ali nekako bih si mislio da to žele počistiti s tržišta i da će cijena biti dobra.
Cjenovni ekvivalent je samo R5 4650G Pro, ali taj i tako nije smio biti za raju.

[The Exiled]

Mogu (duplo) sniziti cijenu za R5 5600X ili pustiti u prodaju običan R5 5600 i to je to, ali obzirom na situaciju (cijena platforme) s Alder Lakeom, baš im se i ne žuri.

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Izvor: Bloomberg

[stef]

Razlika u cijeni ploča nije tako velika kao razlika u cijeni procesora, a vjerojatno će se još smanjivati s vremenom.