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Staro 30.11.2008., 21:08   #91
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Stvarno se ne sjecam kad sam zadnji put taj TV Out koristio...otkad imam DivX player to mi je potpuno nepotrebno.
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Staro 30.11.2008., 22:10   #92
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Znači, ipak postoji "pravi" DVI izlaz?

Vremenom mislim kupiti kakvu jeftiniju plazmu (Panasonic 37PV8 npr.), a pošto sam sa ovom 4670 dobio i DVI->VGA adapter i DVI->HDMI adapter mislim ovaj komp. što ga sastavljam koristiti istovremeno i kao HTPC i kao primarni, pa bi na jedan izlaz bio spojen ovaj 17" CRT, a na drugi izlaz plazma za gledanje filmova.
Dakle, koji od ova dva DVI izlaza je "glavni"?
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Staro 30.11.2008., 23:24   #93
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ma svejedno ti je, upikni u onaj u koji ti vise odgovara. ja nabacio na oba izlaza dvi-vga adaptere, malo presaltavao, jednako u potpunosti.

kada ti dode vrijeme da se pozabavis tv out-om, onda probavaj.

nebi bilo lose da izneses misljenje i dojmove o kartici.

btw, fallout3, high details, , FPS od 60-tak do 85 koji mislim da je max. uglavnom, jos nije nista naislo da steka od igara. cisto informacije radi ako koga zanima .
i da, quake4 na stvarno mislim max postavkama sljaka 5/5, ne izbacuje me, dakle openGL sljaka bez beda.
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Staro 01.12.2008., 12:26   #94
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Još jedan Bench.
Grafa je clockana na 800/1050 kao i AMD X2 3600+ sa 1900 mhz na 3005 mhz.

1.12.2008 12:17:39 - XP
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX9 1024x768, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: High
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TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 61.23s, Average FPS: 32.66
Min FPS: 13.67 at frame 151, Max FPS: 47.40 at frame 986
Average Tri/Sec: 32247820, Tri/Frame: 987253
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.93
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 53.39s, Average FPS: 37.46
Min FPS: 13.67 at frame 151, Max FPS: 48.72 at frame 994
Average Tri/Sec: 37404500, Tri/Frame: 998583
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.92
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 53.26s, Average FPS: 37.55
Min FPS: 13.67 at frame 151, Max FPS: 48.72 at frame 994
Average Tri/Sec: 37535020, Tri/Frame: 999512
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.92
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
==============================================================

Completed All Tests

<><><><><><><><><><><><><>>--SUMMARY--<<><><><><><><><><><><><><>

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Run #1- DX9 1024x768 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 3750,5

1.12.2008 12:29:44 - XP
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX9 1024x768, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: Medium
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TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 47.22s, Average FPS: 42.35
Min FPS: 27.85 at frame 1965, Max FPS: 59.45 at frame 1672
Average Tri/Sec: 30032508, Tri/Frame: 709133
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.29
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 42.83s, Average FPS: 46.70
Min FPS: 27.00 at frame 1950, Max FPS: 66.49 at frame 67
Average Tri/Sec: 33516096, Tri/Frame: 717700
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.28
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 42.80s, Average FPS: 46.73
Min FPS: 27.00 at frame 1950, Max FPS: 66.49 at frame 67
Average Tri/Sec: 33544300, Tri/Frame: 717828
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.28
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
==============================================================

Completed All Tests

<><><><><><><><><><><><><>>--SUMMARY--<<><><><><><><><><><><><><>

1.12.2008 12:29:44 - XP

Run #1- DX9 1024x768 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: Medium ~~ Overall Average FPS: 4671,5
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Staro 01.12.2008., 12:37   #95
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Let's sum it up. Pop in a Blu-ray disc and the GPU can decode and enhance the movie for you, it'll even send 8 channel sound to your receiver or HD screen. Games wise you cannot ignore the fact that playing most modern games with very high image quality settings at 1280x1024 will not be a problem whatsoever. In fact, most games will play fine at very decent framerates at 1600x1200 as well.

Za tu cijenu izgleda ok,ali opet,toliki hype oko igranja na 1024 rezi,pa čak i priglupe igre kao Crysis,je nepotreban.

Da ne spominjem kako izgleda skalirana slika na LCD wide monitorima u 90% slučajeva.

Mislim da je 1280x1024/medium neki optimum ove kartice.

Makar pored polovnih 3870 sa garancijom,ne bi nikad dao 650kn za to,ako se mislim igrati.

Ili 8800gt,za 50-100kn više.
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Staro 01.12.2008., 12:49   #96
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a što joj nedostaje?

ima ljudi koji tek ponekad vole nešto odigrati (kao npr. ja) i ne trebaju im rezolucije tipa 5438x3742 s osam grafičkih kartica u SLI-u, termoelektranom u kućištu i mamicama koje će sve to sinekima kupiti i plaćati struju.

1024x768 je i više nego dovoljno da čovjek uživa u nekoj igri.
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Evo ti 1200x1024. A da bi uzeo 3870 nema šanse. Imao sam ju i znam šta je to.
Ovo je Bench u Crysisu, a ako u Crysisu imaš pkp 25 FPSova onda ćeš druge igrice igrati na high još barem 2 godine.

1.12.2008 12:41:11 - XP
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX9 1280x1024, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: High
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TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 77.62s, Average FPS: 25.77
Min FPS: 14.46 at frame 151, Max FPS: 33.77 at frame 975
Average Tri/Sec: 25368776, Tri/Frame: 984510
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.93
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 68.05s, Average FPS: 29.39
Min FPS: 14.46 at frame 151, Max FPS: 33.95 at frame 984
Average Tri/Sec: 29230914, Tri/Frame: 994610
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.92
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 67.83s, Average FPS: 29.49
Min FPS: 14.46 at frame 151, Max FPS: 34.08 at frame 988
Average Tri/Sec: 29339828, Tri/Frame: 995062
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.92
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
==============================================================

Completed All Tests

<><><><><><><><><><><><><>>--SUMMARY--<<><><><><><><><><><><><><>

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Run #1- DX9 1280x1024 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 2944

1.12.2008 12:54:00 - XP
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX9 1600x1200, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: Medium
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TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 59.89s, Average FPS: 33.40
Min FPS: 26.98 at frame 1943, Max FPS: 44.82 at frame 989
Average Tri/Sec: 25847578, Tri/Frame: 773983
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.18
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 49.58s, Average FPS: 40.34
Min FPS: 26.98 at frame 1943, Max FPS: 44.82 at frame 989
Average Tri/Sec: 31587324, Tri/Frame: 783027
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.17
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 49.48s, Average FPS: 40.42
Min FPS: 26.98 at frame 1943, Max FPS: 44.82 at frame 989
Average Tri/Sec: 31662080, Tri/Frame: 783368
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.17
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
==============================================================

Completed All Tests

<><><><><><><><><><><><><>>--SUMMARY--<<><><><><><><><><><><><><>

1.12.2008 12:54:00 - XP

Run #1- DX9 1600x1200 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: Medium ~~ Overall Average FPS: 4038
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a što joj nedostaje?

ima ljudi koji tek ponekad vole nešto odigrati (kao npr. ja) i ne trebaju im rezolucije tipa 5438x3742 s osam grafičkih kartica u SLI-u, termoelektranom u kućištu i mamicama koje će sve to sinekima kupiti i plaćati struju.

1024x768 je i više nego dovoljno da čovjek uživa u nekoj igri.
Je,da. U Heroesima 3 i Starcraftu.
Da se razumijemo naigrao sam se na toj rezi,ali u današnje vrijeme to nije više nego dovoljno.To je minimum.

Ruku na srce ovo nije gaymerska kartica,a koliko vidim testove Crysisa jako su mi diskutabilni rezultati,pogotovo ovo 1600x1200 16xAF i 30fps. Ali dobro,ok.

Ne fali joj baš ništa,da košta koliko košta vani. A to je 75$ iliti 400kn max.

Ali kod nas košta 650kn,i zato joj fali da je jeftinija 30%.

Gledam malo po SAD HW trgovinama cijene,pa zato dajem nekakav osvrt na cijenu.


@ AMD Mislim,nhf da se opet stvara uber-hype, a za 650kn koliko košta dobiješ g92 chip koji je duplo jači.
Ne bi ti ovo govorio da se ne prsiš sa igranjem,jer je to value i multimedia kartica a ne gay kartica.

Samo o cijeni se radi,ništa drugo. NHF
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Evo ti reza 1900x1200 na medium detaljima. Ako ti to nije dovoljno da te razuvijeri kupi si nvidiu.

1.12.2008 12:59:18 - XP
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX9 1900x1200, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: Medium
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TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 59.99s, Average FPS: 33.34
Min FPS: 27.20 at frame 1943, Max FPS: 44.49 at frame 985
Average Tri/Sec: 25801494, Tri/Frame: 773934
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.18
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 49.51s, Average FPS: 40.39
Min FPS: 27.20 at frame 1943, Max FPS: 45.13 at frame 1019
Average Tri/Sec: 31582544, Tri/Frame: 781882
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.17
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 49.51s, Average FPS: 40.39
Min FPS: 27.20 at frame 1943, Max FPS: 45.29 at frame 1017
Average Tri/Sec: 31617870, Tri/Frame: 782765
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.17
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
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Run #1- DX9 1900x1200 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: Medium ~~ Overall Average FPS: 4039
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thedream-ja te lijepo molim da prestaneš sa spamarom, te pričaš o kartici koju nisi ni vidio a kamoli igrao te drobiš AMD-jcu koji ima 17" CRT...
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thedream-ja te lijepo molim da prestaneš sa spamarom, te pričaš o kartici koju nisi ni vidio a kamoli igrao te drobiš AMD-jcu koji ima 17" CRT...
A ne. Imam i 19".
Ovi 22" LCDovi su za metrosexsualce. CRT je još uvijek uber tehnologija.

Na 1900x1200, high, više neide, ali koliko para toliko muzike. Ipak je to Low End grafa.
Na kraju sa procom 3600+ i tom grafom to su super rezultati. Ionako je cilj svega za malo para što bolje se igrati.

1.12.2008 13:06:26 - XP
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX9 1900x1200, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: High
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TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 102.48s, Average FPS: 19.52
Min FPS: 12.87 at frame 139, Max FPS: 24.10 at frame 982
Average Tri/Sec: 20662212, Tri/Frame: 1058753
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.87
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 92.12s, Average FPS: 21.71
Min FPS: 12.87 at frame 139, Max FPS: 24.45 at frame 991
Average Tri/Sec: 23236368, Tri/Frame: 1070290
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.86
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 92.23s, Average FPS: 21.69
Min FPS: 12.87 at frame 139, Max FPS: 25.28 at frame 1006
Average Tri/Sec: 23226842, Tri/Frame: 1071099
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.86
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
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Completed All Tests

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1.12.2008 13:06:26 - XP

Run #1- DX9 1900x1200 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 2170

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Ovo je naša cijena :

http://www.links.hr/index.php?option...kl=051.806.367

Američka je 400kn.

To je sve,samo sam na to htio ukazati,da bi možda trebalo pričekati.
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Cijena kod nas je prenapuhana u ducanima , ali nije bas realno povlaciti paralelu sa 8800t i 3870 kojih u prodaji rabljenih bas i nema , a ak se i pojave prodaju se gotovo iste sekunde ... 9600gso je oko 600kn nova u ducanu i za igranje je bolje rjesnje od 4670 , ali po pitanju multimedije i potrosnje je 4670 bolja kupnja , a ako joj cijena i dodje na razinu 500 i manje kuna onda ce biti bolja kupnja i za igranje zbog te razlike u cijeni ...
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Editirao sam,zaboravi ne da mi se.

Ovo je naša cijena :

http://www.links.hr/index.php?option...kl=051.806.367

Američka je 400kn.

To je sve,samo sam na to htio ukazati,da bi možda trebalo pričekati.
Ma dajte, po ko tu koga, 4670 da tjera crysis na 16aa na velikim rezama sa 1600x..... i to još sa 30fpsa, ja stvarno neznam tko tu sebe ubjeđuje kada jedan 3850 novi kolje tu grafu na svim testovima....idemo malo u realni svijet
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No da, prije dva-tri tjedna je bilo takvih za 500 i nešto a 4850 za soma-kako je sve poskupilo tako je i 4670...koga briga koliko je u USA kad kupujemo tu.
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Router ti si mi najomiljeniji član ovdje,kažeš sve što ja mislim,a očito sam turčin pa odma misle da im diram u svetu kravu ATi. Ja samo pričam o 200kn većoj cijeni što je 30% u odnosu na onu u SAD. Eto,case closed. Nastavite hvaliti karticu.

Kartica trenutno nema rout,vidjet ćeš oko Nove godine kako će se ekipa grabati za 3870/g92.



Točno to šta si rekao,manje od 500kn ovo mora biti da bi bilo best buy. Zasad je odlična multimedia 2d kartica za povremeno igranje na 1280x1024,medium.

Ali nisam skužio hype oko igranja na 1024,pa mi došlo malo da spamam.
Ako je to fora,ok. Ima kanti za 100kn,biraš.

@ jelc : Mene briga čisto radi stvaranja nekog cjenovnog trenda, to mi je struka. Da vidim tko nas i kako opelješi. NHF odma joj. Sve gledam kroz cijenu,a osobno sam popušio spulja na HW i previše,da nisam idealan primjer za izgubit lovu u rekordnom roku na VGA karticama.
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Cijena kod nas je prenapuhana u ducanima , ali nije bas realno povlaciti paralelu sa 8800t i 3870 kojih u prodaji rabljenih bas i nema , a ak se i pojave prodaju se gotovo iste sekunde ... 9600gso je oko 600kn nova u ducanu i za igranje je bolje rjesnje od 4670 , ali po pitanju multimedije i potrosnje je 4670 bolja kupnja , a ako joj cijena i dodje na razinu 500 i manje kuna onda ce biti bolja kupnja i za igranje zbog te razlike u cijeni ...
Baš tak. 4670 je grafa koja troši minimalno struje i ima malo zagrijavanje. Nisam ju još uspio natjerati preko 60 stupnjeva. Mislim da dođe do 57. U idileu je od 30 do 40. Nema potrebu za dodatnim napajanjem niti u konfiguraciji treba jače napajanje od 400w.
Idealna je za neku multimedialnu konfiguraciju (gledanje filmova, kodiranje, dekodiranje i sl.) s tim da se vlasnik može i više nego solidno igrati.
Cijena je takva kakva je i vjerojatno će pasti, ali tko živ tko mrtav do tada.
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Pisalo je u Protisu da je 530 i par kuna , ali nije ih se moglo naruciti ( probao osobno ) , a sljedeca po cijeni je bila 599kn u admu .
Nego , jer ima koja pasivna 4670 kod nas ? Dosad sam vidio sam sve aktivne - gainward , sapphire , club 3d i powercolor , pa cak i gigabyte koji je inace sklon pasivnim rjesenjima .
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Ma dajte, po ko tu koga, 4670 da tjera crysis na 16aa na velikim rezama sa 1600x..... i to još sa 30fpsa, ja stvarno neznam tko tu sebe ubjeđuje kada jedan 3850 novi kolje tu grafu na svim testovima....idemo malo u realni svijet
Di si vidio taj rezultat?

Ak je tam jeftinije naruči si ju iz SAD-a ili odi živjet tamo, ako misliš da je tamo bolje.

Inače igram na 15" monitoru na ovoj rezi:
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Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX9 800x600, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: Low
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TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 35.93s, Average FPS: 55.66
Min FPS: 44.68 at frame 1962, Max FPS: 84.83 at frame 933
Average Tri/Sec: 22611372, Tri/Frame: 406244
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 2.26
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 29.55s, Average FPS: 67.69
Min FPS: 44.68 at frame 1962, Max FPS: 93.12 at frame 119
Average Tri/Sec: 27737392, Tri/Frame: 409755
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 2.24
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 29.23s, Average FPS: 68.43
Min FPS: 44.68 at frame 1962, Max FPS: 93.12 at frame 119
Average Tri/Sec: 28043398, Tri/Frame: 409824
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 2.24
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
==============================================================

Completed All Tests

<><><><><><><><><><><><><>>--SUMMARY--<<><><><><><><><><><><><><>

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Run #1- DX9 800x600 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: Low ~~ Overall Average FPS: 6806
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Di si vidio taj rezultat?

Ak je tam jeftinije naruči si ju iz SAD-a ili odi živjet tamo, ako misliš da je tamo bolje.
Prokleta je Amerika. Samo svi žele HW po njihovim cijenama i njihov tech support.

@ Router : Ovo je izgleda,najhladnije aktivno rješenje. Ni ja ne mogu pasivno pronaći.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161249

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Prokleta je Amerika. Samo svi žele HW po njihovim cijenama i njihov tech support.

@ Router : Ovo je izgleda,najhladnije aktivno rješenje. Ni ja ne mogu pasivno pronaći.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161249

@ AMD : Jel bar flat taj 15?
Da , ovaj His djeluje jako impresivno sa tim hladnjakom .
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@ AMD : Jel bar flat taj 15?
Nije. Zaobljen je tak da vidim monitor i iz kosa za razliku od LCD-a.
Nego di si vido rezultat 1600x1200, 16xAA u Crysisu preko 30 FPS?
I tata bi to htio, sine.
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Nije. Zaobljen je tak da vidim monitor i iz kosa za razliku od LCD-a.
Nego di si vido rezultat 1600x1200, 16xAA u Crysisu preko 30 FPS?
I tata bi to htio, sine.
Na linku od powercolorke pcs sam našao čudne rezultate od 18 do 24fps,a poslao sam upit neki dan za vmod dotične kartice,navodno su ga neki već obavili,i onda frame ide do 28 fps.

Evo šta sam gledao, ovi se muče malo s clockanjem.

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=74163

Ja zaokružio na 30,jbg.

Evo kraljeva,ja se nisam prestao smijati šta rade. Valjda šestar-mod haha,počupaš ovo,potrgaš ovo,pa bre-knu koji put,opsuju mater,i voila.

Ali žešći izraz,kad GPU povuče struju rofl.

http://www.sx-team.com/forum/index.p...t=0#entry12781

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ne kuzim cemu opet prepirka oko ati / nvidia kartica. kupiti 4670 ili 9600gso - odluci sam. obje su tu negdje, 9600gso je negdje jaca, negdje 4670 je jaca, i to je to sto se tice perfomansi u igrama. u multimediji je 4670 jaca, manje trosi u 2d okruzju, pod load-om opet manje ali ne toliko koliko kao u idle-u. opet - bucnije hladenje i slabije oc mogucnosti daju prednost 9600gso, kao i malo veci fps kad nije dignut AA.

sto se tice cijena, nema tu gledanja koliko kosta vani. po tome bi se vozio u meganu, a ne u akcentu. tako da to ne drzi vodu, usporeduje se trziste drzave u kojem zivis.

sve u svemu, obje predstavljaju odlicnu kupovinu graficke kartice kojoj nije tesko vrtiti igre u bilo kojoj rezoluciji, uz naravno odredeno odricanje detalja sto rezolucija ide gore. ali da su gejmerske kartice kako su ocito neki stekli dojam - nisu. niti su trebale biti, niti su tako prezentirane. ovo sto ja nabacim ili amd neke rezultate ili bilo tko treci, cisto da se vidi koliko kartica moze povuc, jer eto, moze nekome pomoci u kupovini. ne dizanje u nebesa kao one&only buy.

a ici usporedivati sa jacom i skupljom konkurencijom tipa 8800gt/4850 nema logike, jer je to drugi (jaci) rang kartica. a opet usporedivati sa polovnim jacim rangom je takoder nezahvalno, jer onda treba i usporedivati ove slabije kao polovne, nize cijene. jer novo je ipak novo, i tako se i treba usporedivati.
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Ma dajte, po ko tu koga, 4670 da tjera crysis na 16aa na velikim rezama sa 1600x..... i to još sa 30fpsa, ja stvarno neznam tko tu sebe ubjeđuje kada jedan 3850 novi kolje tu grafu na svim testovima....idemo malo u realni svijet
evo ti realan svijet:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...b_5.html#sect0
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid..._16.html#sect0

4670 je brža kartica od 3850 (u nekim igrama poprilično brža) i troši manje struje, a po cijeni su jednake.
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Probao sam karticu dignuti par puta na 810 mhz, ali mi ruši komp. Vjerojatno manjak struje ili nešto treće.
Jelc, kak stvari trenutno stoje mislim da su na ovoj napravili nekakvu zaštitu da ju nemrem skurit.
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Probao sam karticu dignuti par puta na 810 mhz, ali mi ruši komp. Vjerojatno manjak struje ili nešto treće.
Jelc, kak stvari trenutno stoje mislim da su na ovoj napravili nekakvu zaštitu da ju nemrem skurit.
A kaj joj fali na 800?
Sa čim si clockao?
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Probal sa ATI Tray Tools.
ACCC neda više od 800/1050.
Probat ću još sa Rivatunerom.
Ako ne, voltmod.
Dajte mi dima da napunim karticu.
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I ode tema, a kartica ne valja za ništ osim 1024x768 i eventulano 1280x1024 s kastriranim detaljima. Ideš.
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