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Staro 13.08.2007., 22:31   #1
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22" TN vs 20" IPS widescreen

dakle, dvojba je intresantna..uzeti dobar 22" wide sa TN matricom ili odličan 20" wide monitor s boljom IPS matricom....prošao sam brdo foruma i recenzija i kad sam pogledao sve cijene u našim dućanima (usput rečeno jako variraju i do soma kuna, najviše baš kod monitora) došao sam do zakjučka....22" wide bi trebao biti Philips 220WS8FB (imho čak nešto i bolji od samsunga 226bw, cijena 2250kn) a 20" wide bi trebao biti odlični Dell 2007WFP monitor s IPS matricom (cijena 3160kn)....e sad....pretpostavljam da bi za nekoga tko se najviše igra a manje radi dell bio overkill i da bi tih 900-ak kuna više bilo bacanje love...ali za radnika dell bi bio isplativ....mišljenja?
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Staro 13.08.2007., 22:43   #2
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uzet 20"IPS matrica,i ja sam bil u dvojbi ko i ti,na kraju je prevagnula kvaliteta,i nisam požalil kaj imam 20-setku
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Staro 13.08.2007., 23:47   #3
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Definitivno 20'',i to Della 2007WFP,trenutno Best buy
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Staro 14.08.2007., 02:41   #4
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Definitivno 20'',i to Della 2007WFP,trenutno Best buy
POTPISUJEM COVJEK JE U PRAVU 100%

Ja stvarno ne razumjem kako neko moze tvrdit da TN matrice imaju vrhunsku sliku ljudi moji to je srednja zalost -2
kuzim nema se novaca...al nemoj mene onda pravit budalom i govorit da je slika vrhunska...jel sam vidio 30 razlicitih modela TN matrica i to je meni ne gledljivo...
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Staro 14.08.2007., 09:19   #5
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TN su u najboljem slucaju OK, ali daleko je to od odlicne slike. Go for IPS.
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Staro 14.08.2007., 10:46   #6
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evo jedne zanimljive usporedbe; samsung 205bw vs dell 2007WFB


http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=637&page=11


ispada da i nije baš neka razlika....a 206bw je i nešto bolji od 205bw


btw, u vemil je došao novi 22" wide...Philips 220WS8FB za 2249 kunića....
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Staro 14.08.2007., 12:54   #7
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ips jede tn...

uvjek na ips bez obzira na 2 inca .
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Staro 14.08.2007., 13:23   #8
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evo jedne zanimljive usporedbe; samsung 205bw vs dell 2007WFB


http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=637&page=11


ispada da i nije baš neka razlika....a 206bw je i nešto bolji od 205bw


btw, u vemil je došao novi 22" wide...Philips 220WS8FB za 2249 kunića....


odi pa pogledaj jedan i drugi (u isto vrijeme na istom mjestu) pa mi reci onda dal ima razlike
ne možeš uspoređivat IPS i TN i onda još reč kak i nije neka razlika
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Staro 14.08.2007., 14:48   #9
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Imao sam doma 20" Dell 2005FPW (s-ips) i 20" Dell E207WFP (TN) i daleko od toga da je E207WFP loš (osim u kutu gledanja koji je mojim s-ips(om) razmaženim očima na TN matricama katastrofalan).
Tehnologija je napredovala i na prvi pogled razlike su u nijansama ... sve dok ih ne staviš jedan do drugoga i shvatiš da tu nema usporedbe. JEDINA prednost TN matrice je cijena i tu se stvarno nema više što reći.
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And now, through intense concentration,
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I am capable of conversing with you
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He wants to give you his doctoral dissertation on why
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is the greatest fucking film of all time!

He wants to bitch slap you because
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What? Have you been living in a fucking cave?!

He wants to kick your ass in Star Wars Trivial Pursuit.
And he will.
Because he’s a fucking Geek.

And he wants his toys.
He wants the complete set
in mint condition,
still in the box.
He wants every item on the planet that is even remotely related to Ultraman.
Because Ultraman is Airwolf!

He could give a squirt of piss
about sports or politics or rhetoric.
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He wants his own Tardis.
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He wants the impossible to find Japanese bootleg with
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He wants to watch Blade Runner. Again.
He wants to watch Brazil. Again.
He wants to watch A Clockwork Orange.
Again and Again!

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I am Bruce Banner. He is the Hulk.
Especially the Hulk from issues #272 to #378.

But no longer!
I am putting a stop to all this nerdy shit right now!
I’m an adult, for Christ’s sake!
And this body isn’t big enough for the both of us.
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I banishing the Geek forever to the Phantom Zone,
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Staro 14.08.2007., 15:10   #10
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Imao sam doma 20" Dell 2005FPW (s-ips) i 20" Dell E207WFP (TN) i daleko od toga da je E207WFP loš (osim u kutu gledanja koji je mojim s-ips(om) razmaženim očima na TN matricama katastrofalan).
Tehnologija je napredovala i na prvi pogled razlike su u nijansama ... sve dok ih ne staviš jedan do drugoga i shvatiš da tu nema usporedbe. JEDINA prednost TN matrice je cijena i tu se stvarno nema više što reći.
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da al gledaj, ovisi za što se kupuje monitor...za jednog gamera 206bw je super izbor, vrlo brz odaziv, nema nimalo ghostinga i sl.....a slika sasvim dovoljno kvalitetna za jednog gamera

Dell2007WFP sa svojom IPS matricom i za trećinu većom cijenom može biti dobar samo onima koji se misle ozbiljno baviti npr. grafičkim dizajnom....a dobar je i za one koji neznaju kud će s lovom..nikako nije bolji za gamere (vidi gorel linkani review) od 206bw....tko normalan (a nije pun ko brod) kupuje za trećinu skuplji monitor samo za igranje (ili uglavnom za igranje)......odem u dučane pa javim dojmove....
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Staro 14.08.2007., 16:15   #11
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S-IPS je bolji za sve - to nije upitno.
Kao što sam rekao JEDINA prednost TN matrica je cijena... osobno nikad ne bi štedio na monitoru jer u pravilu nadživi dvije tri generacije hardware-a (čitaj grafičkih kartica).
Iskreno, ne kužim ljude (djecu ?) koji daju par kila kuna za grafu koja je zastarjela za 6 mjeseci a štede na monitoru u koji bulje slijedećih par godina... pogotovo sad kad su se cijene skoro pa izjednačile.
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somewhat average looking fellow.
Calm, harmless, at ease.

But this is by design.
You see, it is through decades of research and rigorous training that I have crafted this façade of normalcy.

And now, through intense concentration,
I am able to function in a social setting.
I can speak at length with educated people about
pertinent matters of public importance,
such as literature,
or the current political climate in Europe.

I am capable of conversing with you
without ever revealing that just underneath the surface
of this manufactured veneer
there hides an altogether different person.
A monster, some might say.
My alter-ego.
He is the opposite of the image I project.
He is the antithesis of Cool.
He is the LAST person you want to get trapped in a conversation with.

He is The Geek.
The obsessive science fiction movie watching,
comic book collecting,
Monty Python dialogue memorizing,
Dungeons and Dragons playing GEEK
that I struggle daily to keep hidden from the world.

But The Geek Wants Out.

He want to talk to you.
He wants to give you his doctoral dissertation on why
The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension
is the greatest fucking film of all time!

He wants to bitch slap you because
you’ve never seen Big Trouble in Little China.
What? Have you been living in a fucking cave?!

He wants to kick your ass in Star Wars Trivial Pursuit.
And he will.
Because he’s a fucking Geek.

And he wants his toys.
He wants the complete set
in mint condition,
still in the box.
He wants every item on the planet that is even remotely related to Ultraman.
Because Ultraman is Airwolf!

He could give a squirt of piss
about sports or politics or rhetoric.
Such things are of no consequence to him.
What matters is the release date of the next Lord of the Rings movie!

You see, The Geek can’t wait.
The Geek has no patience.
He wants what he wants when he wants it.
And all he wants is stupid shit!

He wants his own Tardis.
He wants his own light saber.
He wants to buy a DeLorean and he wants to drive it 88 miles per hour.

He wants movies.
He wants to see the Director’s Cut.
He wants the impossible to find Japanese bootleg with
6 minutes of never-before-seen footage.

He wants to watch Blade Runner. Again.
He wants to watch Brazil. Again.
He wants to watch A Clockwork Orange.
Again and Again!

But I deprive him of these things, as best I can,
until I can no longer ignore his voice
screaming in my head.

I am Jekyl. He is Hyde.
I am Bruce Banner. He is the Hulk.
Especially the Hulk from issues #272 to #378.

But no longer!
I am putting a stop to all this nerdy shit right now!
I’m an adult, for Christ’s sake!
And this body isn’t big enough for the both of us.
One of us has to go, and it’s gonna be him.
I banishing the Geek forever to the Phantom Zone,
just like in Superman II !
Because, in the end –
there can be only one.
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Staro 14.08.2007., 17:00   #12
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i po meni je bolje kupiti della nasuprot tog samsunga unatoc manjem ekranu, ali manji je samo dimenzijama dok je radna povrsina ista. Sto ako ne mislis gledati iz tko zna kakve udaljenosti imho ne radi neku razliku..

naravno bolje je uz uvjet da imas toliko novaca za odvojit za njega...
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Staro 14.08.2007., 17:44   #13
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S-IPS matrica je puno bolja od TN matrice

iako ja imam monitor s TN matricom..kuži se da je slika lošija ali opet nije tolko loše i nisam neki perfekcionist monitor ima prihvatiljvu cjenu te je jedino malo problem čitati kada je bijeli tekst na crnoj podlozi ostalo sve 5

iako se slažem s crnim i nije mi jasno zašto ekipa ima grafu od 2-3 soma kuna a bulji u loše monitore

ja imam dobar omjer..grafa 500 monitor 2500..tak da me is happy..

22"wide sam htio a za 24"wide nisam imao novaca iako bi s njim dobio vjerojatno nešto bolje..vjerojatno ne bi bila TN matrica nego S-IPS matrica..ali onda bi me monitor došao 4-5-6k kn a ne 2,5k kn kao sada u ostalom vjerojatno cu si kroz neko kraco vrijeme (1g) ubosti malo kvalitetniji 24"Wide
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Staro 14.08.2007., 19:51   #14
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Staro 14.08.2007., 21:26   #15
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