Nadolazeći AMD socketi, ploče i procesori

[s3t hooligan]

okej, imate pravo , samo vas bezveze pilam , moja pretpostavka je da ce prvi nalet bulldozera bit kompatibilan sa am3 ali ce novi am3 plus ili sta vec davat vise mogucnosti s njima, bas kako je i prije bilo s starom serijo phenomima, e sad sto cu ja kupiti ce bit moja odluka, vjerovatno cu bocnut thubana i bit miran ,ionako ga necu drzat duze od 3 godine unutra, hvala na savjetima i pozz.

[Amepshi]

@s3t hooligan

Koja god tehnologija izasla, racunaj da ce kostati papreno na pocetku! Ako Bulldozer bude ispunio ocekivanja i dostigao Intel u performansama, znaci da ce AMD moci nabiti cijenu (pogledaj koliko kostaju jaci i7 procesori), sigurno ces JOS CEKATI da padne cijena. Dakle pricamo o nabavci procesora za jedno dvije godine (2012. - 2013.). Onda ce te poceti svrbjeti pitanje jel da pricekas DDR4 koji ce se dati klokati jos jace od DDR3. Radije sada uzmi nesto, tko zna sto ce biti za dvije godine, ionako ces uzimati cijeli novi sustav.:-)

Pitanja oko AM3 socketa i njegovih varijanti - eto pogledaj realno razliku izmedju AM2+ i AM3. Neka me isprave veci znalci, no jedna od razlika je ta sto se kod AM3 (u odnosu na AM2+) izdvojeno napajanje za RAM, tj. dobilo je svoju "fazu" (nestrucno receno). Pitanje je koje ce sve razlike donijeti AM3 r2 - nagadjam, mozda poboljsaju nesto oko RAM-a pa ces na AM3 r2 plocama moci staviti vise RAM plocica i bolje ih klokati. Mozda ce Bulldozer procesori za klokanje zahtjevati neke preinake u dizajnu ploce - pa ce hrpa ljudi doci kukati da moraju mijenjati plocu, jer ne mogu "nafrljiti" procesor na AM3. Budimo realni, svima u lancu je u interesu da kupite novu plocu (AMD proda cipset), sigurno ce izmisliti neko ogranicenje s kojim ce vas namamiti na novu plocu.

[s3t hooligan]

ma da, uzimam 1055t i to je konacno , istina je to da cu vjecno cekat ako se na to odlucim , a ovo sto sad kupim ionako mjenjam za 3 godine.

[bluefluid]

New Six core and fast quad core Phenom II CPUs soon

The two key processors set to be announced are AMD Phenom II X6 1075T (3.0GHz/3.50GHz TurboCore with 9MB of cache) and AMD Phenom II X4 970 Black Edition (3.50GHz, 8MB of cache). The first will cost in the range between $230 - $240 and will broaden the line of code-named Thuban microprocessors, whereas the second will be AMD's fastest quad-core microprocessor with the price tag that is likely to be below $200.

Considering the fact that TurboCore clock-speed of the six-core model 1075T will be 3.50GHz, the difference in price between it and the quad-core Phenom II X4 970 BE should be considerable as the chips have equal performance in applications that require up to four threads (in order to avoid internal competition between six-core and quad-core products)." Alongside these processors on September 21 a dual-core AMD Phenom II X2 560 (3.3GHz, 7MB cache) and quad-core AMD Athlon II X4 645 (3.1GHz, 2MB L2 cache) are expected as well, both to cost roughly $100.

AMD's Fastest Quad-Core Chip

The forthcoming AMD Phenom II X4 970 Black Edition microprocessor will not only be the fastest quad-core chip from Advanced Micro Devices, but will also exist in two versions one of which has all chances to become a dream of computer enthusiasts because of possibility to unlock two additional cores.

Sources familiar with AMD's plans claims that there will be two types of AMD Phenom II X4 970 BE central processing units (CPUs): boxed versions aimed at retail market will be based on the well known code-named Deneb design that has four cores in total; tray flavours of the chips designed for system integrators and OEMs will be based on Zosma design, which is basically six-core Thuban chip with two disabled cores that can be unlocked on certain mainboards.

The quad-core AMD Phenom II X4 970 Black Edition microprocessor will be clocked at 3.50GHz, will feature 8MB of cache, dual-channel DDR2/DDR3 memory controller and will be compatible with AM3 and select AM2+ mainboards. The product will cost around $200 and will be AMD's fastest quad-core solution ever. The chip is projected to be unveiled on September, 21, 2010.

Izvor: X-bit Labs i Guru3D

[D-I-A-B-L-O]

Bilo bi bolje da su obrnuto stavili u prodaju ova dva Phenoma X4.

[bluefluid]

AMD is finally going to embrace a truly next generation x86 processor architecture that is built from ground up. AMD's current architecture, the K10(.5) "Stars" is an evolution of the more market-successful K8 architecture, but it didn't face the kind of market success as it was overshadowed by competing Intel architectures. AMD codenamed its latest design "Bulldozer", and it features an x86 core design that is radically different from anything we've seen from either processor giants. With this design, AMD thinks it can outdo both HyperThreading and Multi-Core approaches to parallelism, in one shot, as well as "bulldoze" through serial workloads with a broad 8 integer pipeline per core, (compared to 3 on K10, and 4 on Westmere). Two almost-individual blocks of integer processing units share a common floating point unit with two 128-bit FMACs.

AMD is also working on a multi-threading technology of its own to rival Intel's HyperThreading, that exploits Bulldozer's branched integer processing backed by shared floating point design, which AMD believes to be so efficient, that each SMT worker thread can be deemed a core in its own merit, and further be backed by competing threads per "core". AMD is working on another micro-architecture codenamed "Bobcat", which is a downscale implementation of Bulldozer, with which it will take on low-power and high performance per Watt segments that extend from all-in-One PCs all the way down to hand-held devices and 8-inch tablets. We will explore the Bulldozer architecture in some detail.

Izvor: techPowerUp

[de.fang]

Bilo bi zgodno bi da AMD ponovi uspjeh kao sa 939.

[D-I-A-B-L-O]

Ček malo jel ja to malo krivo razumijem ili što, ali gore piše x86 core design umjesto x64. Zar se to ne bi trebalo negativno odraziti na performanse u 64-bit OS-ovima, odnosno može li 64 bit operativni sustav raditi uopće na procesoru koji, ako sam dobro razumio, to ne podržava? Nije li x86 oznaka za 32 bit operativne sustave, a samim time i procesore?

[coconut]

Koliko je AMD/ATI napredan kod grafa u odnosu na nvidiu, toliko je zaostao u pogledu procesora u odnosu na Intel. AMD je definitivno bolji bang4buck od Intela, ali kaska u pogledu performansi i potrošnje u odnosu na Intel. Očekivalo se da će Phenom II X6 donijeti pomake u dijelu kojim Intel dominira (npr. video editing), ali se to nije dogodilo. Volio bih da AMD satre Intela u performansama, ali bojim se da se to neće dogoditi još dugo vremena. Pozitivno kod AMD-a je što zaista dugo fura isti socket dok je to Intela to sasvim suprotno te samim time pogubno po džep korisnika (npr. s1156 nije ni zaživi, a već ga 2011 ukidaju).

Napomena: ovo nije flame već moja razmišljanja.

[danij3l]

Autor D-I-A-B-L-O

Ček malo jel ja to malo krivo razumijem ili što, ali gore piše x86 core design umjesto x64. Zar se to ne bi trebalo negativno odraziti na performanse u 64-bit OS-ovima, odnosno može li 64 bit operativni sustav raditi uopće na procesoru koji, ako sam dobro razumio, to ne podržava? Nije li x86 oznaka za 32 bit operativne sustave, a samim time i procesore?

x64 nije arhitektura, to je samo josh jedan nepravilan naziv za ekstenziju x86-64. jasno da ce taj procesor imati podrshku i za 32 i za 64 bit.

[pinkskin]

Autor coconut

Koliko je AMD/ATI napredan kod grafa u odnosu na nvidiu, toliko je zaostao u pogledu procesora u odnosu na Intel. AMD je definitivno bolji bang4buck od Intela, ali kaska u pogledu performansi i potrošnje u odnosu na Intel. Očekivalo se da će Phenom II X6 donijeti pomake u dijelu kojim Intel dominira (npr. video editing), ali se to nije dogodilo. Volio bih da AMD satre Intela u performansama, ali bojim se da se to neće dogoditi još dugo vremena.
Pozitivno kod AMD-a je što zaista dugo fura isti socket dok je to Intela to sasvim suprotno te samim time pogubno po džep korisnika (npr. s1156 nije ni zaživi, a već ga 2011 ukidaju).

Napomena: ovo nije flame već moja razmišljanja.

Zaboravljaš da ima malo programa koji stvarno mogu iskoristit 6 jezgri.

[naram-sin]

Autor coconut

Koliko je AMD/ATI napredan kod grafa u odnosu na nvidiu, toliko je zaostao u pogledu procesora u odnosu na Intel. AMD je definitivno bolji bang4buck od Intela, ali kaska u pogledu performansi i potrošnje u odnosu na Intel. Očekivalo se da će Phenom II X6 donijeti pomake u dijelu kojim Intel dominira (npr. video editing), ali se to nije dogodilo. Volio bih da AMD satre Intela u performansama, ali bojim se da se to neće dogoditi još dugo vremena.
Pozitivno kod AMD-a je što zaista dugo fura isti socket dok je to Intela to sasvim suprotno te samim time pogubno po džep korisnika (npr. s1156 nije ni zaživi, a već ga 2011 ukidaju).

Napomena: ovo nije flame već moja razmišljanja.

Autor pinkskin

Zaboravljaš da ima malo programa koji stvarno mogu iskoristit 6 jezgri.

Malo sam razgovarao s kolegama s TPU-a, i sve ovo sto ste naveli ima posve druge konotacije danas. Bulldozer nece biti na AM3 socketu, vec ce raditi na posve novoj platformi. Uklonit ce se dio mem. kontrolera, odnosno DDR2 mem. kontroler i uvesti posve nova tehnologija parallel computinga, svojevrsni HiperThreading, koji to nije, u kontekstu Intel HT-a, vec bi navodno trebao dati jos bolje skaliranje performansi, a u OS-u, primjerice prikazivati broj fizickih jezgri, a ne dretvi. Gdje (djelomicno) bespredmetnom postaje rasporava o "softverskoj" iskoristivosti procesora. BTW, NB ce takodjer biti disolviran u sam procesor, slicno kao kod Nehalema, ali opet nesto malo drugacije. Hyper Transport (izgleda) odlazi u povijesti, a dolazi nam A-link.

Fora je sto ce to paralelno procesiranje biti, hm, "hardcoded" u samu arhitekturu na nivou koji je potpuno ili djelomicno transparentan za softverski "layer". Deneb i Thuban su ok, osobito zbog modularnosti same tehnologije (MCM) ali to je jos uvijek dobri stari K10, koji kaska od dana rodjenja. Bulldozer se zapravo prema zadnjim vijestima ispostavlja kao posve novi projekt. Kao da su jednom trenutku (nedavnoi?) AMD-ovci poceli iz pocetka. I meni se cini da idu u odlicnom smjeru. Stvari se lagano zakuhavaju, vjerojatno na zadovoljstvo svih.

Osim mozda Intela.

[Overhaul]

Autor coconut

Koliko je AMD/ATI napredan kod grafa u odnosu na nvidiu, toliko je zaostao u pogledu procesora u odnosu na Intel. AMD je definitivno bolji bang4buck od Intela, ali kaska u pogledu performansi i potrošnje u odnosu na Intel. Očekivalo se da će Phenom II X6 donijeti pomake u dijelu kojim Intel dominira (npr. video editing), ali se to nije dogodilo. Volio bih da AMD satre Intela u performansama, ali bojim se da se to neće dogoditi još dugo vremena.
Pozitivno kod AMD-a je što zaista dugo fura isti socket
Napomena: ovo nije flame već moja razmišljanja.

Mislim da tvoja razmišljanja u svemu nisu ispravna, bila flame ili ne

• ATi nije "napredan kod grafa u odnosu na nvidiju kao što je zaostao u odnosu na intel." Sa nVidiom vode tik-tak odnos. Nekad su oni malo povoljniji/bolji, nekad nVidia. Npr. nVidia je uvijek i u doba ove prednosti HD 5000 serije, daleko bolja u skaliranju sa SLi sustavom. Ja sam jednom koristio CrossFire i ispao magarac, s obzirom koliko malo ubrzanja, a koliko (duplo) više novca, grijanja, buke, potrošnje i gnjaveža s driverima sam uložio. Intel pak nikad, niti u doba AMD-ovog topnotch Athlon FX procesora nije bio ugrožen u krunskoj brzini, mooožda u trenutku nesretnog intelovog P4 cirkusiranja bijahu tu negdje.
  
  
• Phenom II X6 u pogledu performansi i potrošnje nimalo ne zaostaje za Intelom iste klase. Pogledaj mi Moj komp, da ne pomisliš da možda bubam napamet.
  
  
• Phenom II X6 je izvrstan za video editing. Jedino što treba je dovoljno memorije (pod dovoljno mislim na 8GB) i dobra grafika i tu NIMALO ne zaostaje za nijednim i7 osim mrcine 980X naravno, koja košta kao i još jedno kompletno X6 računalo.
  
  
• To što AMD "dugo" (iako isto toliko i Intel ima 775 npr.) gura isti socket ne znači ništa. Najbitniji je pojedini chipset. Ja sam morao prodati i gigabyte GA-MA790FX-DS5 i DFi LanParty 790FXB-M2RSH konfiguraciju pokloniti curi, jer niti za jedan od tih (iako donedavno highend) SKUPIH chipseta nema podrške za Thuban.

Dakle, tvoja razmišljanja su površne i općenite chitchat floskule i stereotipovi iz x-te forumaške ruke, bez uvrede.

@pinkskin

Zaboravljaš da ima malo programa koji stvarno mogu iskoristit 6 jezgri.

Pa možda ne zaboravlja. Onaj tko živi ili ovisi od barem jednog od tih "malo programa" itekako je sretan što ima višejezgren procesor i boli ga ona stvar što postoji nekakav pasijans ili pucačina koji te jezgre ne znaju upotrijebiti. To što netko tko realno ne koristi te programe, a skupo uludo kupuje višejezgrene procove, bude razočaran, ne znači da su ti procesori onda promašaj. Njegova je krivica u neinformiranosti, (a ne proizvođača procesora), za rezultirajući neadekvatan setup za njegove specifične potrebe. Zato ima ovaj forum da se informira.

Autor naram-sin

Malo sam razgovarao s kolegama s TPU-a, i sve ovo sto ste naveli ima posve druge konotacije danas. Bulldozer nece biti na AM3 socketu, vec ce raditi na posve novoj platformi. Uklonit ce se dio mem. kontrolera, odnosno DDR2 mem. kontroler i uvesti posve nova tehnologija parallel computinga, svojevrsni HiperThreading, koji to nije, u kontekstu Intel HT-a, vec bi navodno trebao dati jos bolje skaliranje performansi, a u OS-u, primjerice prikazivati broj fizickih jezgri, a ne dretvi. Gdje (djelomicno) bespredmetnom postaje rasporava o "softverskoj" iskoristivosti procesora. BTW, NB ce takodjer biti disolviran u sam procesor, slicno kao kod Nehalema, ali opet nesto malo drugacije. Hyper Transport (izgleda) odlazi u povijesti, a dolazi nam A-link.
Fora je sto ce to paralelno procesiranje biti, hm, "hardcoded" u samu arhitekturu na nivou koji je potpuno ili djelomicno transparentan za softverski "layer". Deneb i Thuban su ok, osobito zbog modularnosti same tehnologije (MCM) ali to je jos uvijek dobri stari K10, koji kaska od dana rodjenja. Bulldozer se zapravo prema zadnjim vijestima ispostavlja kao posve novi projekt. Kao da su jednom trenutku (nedavnoi?) AMD-ovci poceli iz pocetka. I meni se cini da idu u odlicnom smjeru. Stvari se lagano zakuhavaju, vjerojatno na zadovoljstvo svih.
Osim mozda Intela.

Vrlo lijep opis , i držim fige da bude tako kao što si opisao, ali znamo svi koji smo u tome koje desetljeće, koliko se razlikuju powerpoint prezentacije od finalnih proizvoda, performansi i rokova realizacije.

[McG]

Advanced Micro Devices said that its next-generation desktop processors code-named Zambezi will use socket AM3+ platforms, which will be backwards compatible with the firm's existing AM3 products. While the latter is an advantage for the platform, it may be a disadvantage for eight-core processors based on Bulldozer micro-architecture. In order for AMD’s desktop offering to fully leverage the capabilities of Bulldozer, an enhanced AM3+ socket will be introduced that supports Bulldozer and is backward-compatible with our existing AM3 CPU offerings.

Apparently, it was possible for AMD to make Bulldozer microprocessors compatible with existing AM3+ infrastructure, but in order to do that, the company would have to sacrifice certain important features of the new core. The compatibility with older microprocessors allows AMD to simplify transition to the new micro-architecture and process design since the new AM3+ platform will support inexpensive chips from day one. However, such compatibility also means that AMD Zambezi processors will only support dual-channel memory controller.

AMD Bulldozer-based processor code-named Zambezi will have up to eight cores along with a new TurboCore dynamic acceleration technology.
Thanks to the new micro-architecture the chip promises to be faster than existing AMD products.

Izvor: X-bit Labs

[stef]

S obzirom da je power management iz temelja promijenjen drugo se nije moglo ni očekivati.
Dakle, Bulldozer sigurno neide na AM3 ploče, ali sadašnji AM3 procevi idu na novu AM3+ platformu.

[McG]

Advanced Micro Devices on Wednesday displayed a die-shot of the forthcoming central processing unit (CPU) code-named Orochi, which is based on the Bulldozer micro-architecture and will be made using 32nm silicon-on-insulator process technology. The chip will feature eight processing engines, but since it is based on Bulldozer micro-architecture, those cores will be packed into four modules. Every module which will have two independent integer cores (that will share fetch, decode and L2 functionality) with dedicated schedulers, one floating point unit with two 128-bit FMAC pipes with one FP scheduler. The chip will have shared L3 cache, dual-channel DDR3 memory controller and will use HyperTransport 3.1 bus. The Orochi chips will use new AM3+ form-factor and will require brand new platforms.

The image clearly depicts four separate dual-core Bulldozer modules with unified level-two caches, various interfaces (memory, HyperTransport, etc.), rather strangely aligned level-three cache and so on. Besides design and instruction set improvements, Bulldozer, just like the code-named Llano accelerated processing unit (APU), supports advanced power management featuring chip power gating and digital measurements of temperatures. Obviously, the chip will be able to dynamically boost clock-speed when thermal design power allows and multiple cores are not required.

Izvor: X-bit Labs

[viper]

Dakle nula bodova za podršku trokanalne memorije na Bulldozeru?

[McG]

Da, radi toga jer AM3+ platforma zadržava podršku za sadašnje AM3 procesore koji imaju dvokanalni kontroler.

[MadBoY]

Besides explaining the upcoming architecture late last month and showing off physical samples at IFA 2010 in Berlin, the company is now sharing some additional details regarding specific products and their power envelopes. Specifically the company mentioned two Bobcat-based APUs that will form the basis of their "Brazos" platform: Ontario and Zacate.

Both APUs implement two Bobcat cores merged with a graphics core capable of DirectX 11 rendering and a new Unified Video Decoder (UVD) on-die to handle full HD decoding at 1080p. Zacate is aimed at ultrathin, mainstream, and value notebooks as well as desktops and all-in-ones. With a TDP of 18W, it will have to compete with Intel's ultra-low voltage Core i3 in these markets. Meanwhile, Ontario will target netbooks and nettops with a TDP rating of just 9W. By comparison, Intel's new Atom N550 with on-die graphics has an 8.5W TDP. Unlike Atom, however, Bobcat cores will support out-of-order instruction handling and thus have the potential to offer significantly higher performance.

Izvor: Techspot

[McG]

AMD 900 serija čipseta

Although there will be several minor differences between AMD 8-series and AMD 9-series core-logic sets, the main two features of the new Scorpius platform will be support for new Bulldozer micro-architecture processors as well as IOMMU, a technology that will bring a number of new features to AMD's desktop platforms and will differentiate it from competing offerings from Intel Corp., according to people familiar with AMD's plans. Like a traditional MMU, which translates microprocessor's virtual addresses to physical addresses, the IOMMU maps device-visible virtual addresses to physical addresses. The I/O memory management unit provides a secure, scalable, high-performance solution for I/O virtualization in client or server computers. While it is clear that IOMMU sports a number of advantages in server platforms and virtualized environments, its main advantage in desktop platforms will likely be improvements in heterogeneous computing.

While there is no concrete guidance at this point, but it is highly likely that all mainboards powered by AMD 9-series chipsets will feature AM3+ sockets that will support AMD's code-named Zambezi desktop processor as well as current-generation AM3 chips. The mainboards will possibly support numerous innovations beyond AM3+ and IOMMU and given the fact that the new chipsets will have new clock-speed generators and the Zambezi chips will support Turbo Core 2.0 technology, there will possibly be a number of new options for overclockers. Even though AMD plans to start shipping its 9-series chipsets in Q2 2011, it is still unknown when the company is able to ship its desktop microprocessors known as Zambezi made using 32nm process technology.

There will be three versions of AMD 9-series North Bridges that will be slightly different from each other:

• AMD 990FX - supports two PCIe 2.0 x16 slots (configurable as four PCIe 2.0 x16), six PCIe 2.0 x1 slots, one PCIe 2.0 x4 slot, to be paired with SB950 I/O controller;
• AMD 990X - supports one PCIe 2.0 x16 slots (configurable as two PCIe 2.0 x8), six PCIe 2.0 x1 slots;
• AMD 970 - supports one PCIe 2.0 x16 slot, to be paired with SB950 and SB920 I/O controllers;

AMD 9-series south bridge chips will support the following:

• AMD SB950 - four PCIe 2.0 x1 slots, 14 USB 2.0 controllers, PCI bus, six Serial ATA-600 connectors with RAID 0, 1, 5, 10 support;
• AMD SB920 - two PCIe 2.0 x1 slots, 14 USB 2.0 controllers, PCI bus, six Serial ATA-600 connectors with RAID 0, 1, 10 support

Nadolazeći Phenom II procesori

In particular, the company wants to introduce new top-of-the-range six-core chip as well as the fastest quad-core microprocessor.
In addition, the company will further broaden the line of its Phenom II X6 "Thuban" products with a relatively affordable CPU.

In an attempt to boost performance of its six-core and quad-core processors in advance of the Holiday season, AMD intends to release two new six-core processors Phenom II X6 1100T (3.30GHz), which will be the fastest chip the company has to offer and Phenom II X6 1065T (2.90GHz), which will be the highest-performance six-core offering with 95W thermal design power. In addition, the company will itroduce its most powerful quad-core Phenom II X4 975 chip with 3.60GHz clock-speed. The chips are specifically aimed at the higher end of the market and will rise performance bar for AMD central processing units.

The forthcoming introduction of a faster six-core offering in Q4 2010 may indicate that Advanced Micro Devices is now seeing higher yields of six-core Phenom II X6 "Thuban" processors at Globalfoundries using 45nm SOI fabrication process. The further expansion of six-core product family with an expensive and mainstream parts is likely to slightly increase average selling prices and consequently revenues of AMD.

Izvor: X-Bit Labs - 1, 2

[bluefluid]

Asus ROG Crosshair IV Extreme - Hands on Preview

The Crosshair IV Extreme comes with 5 x PCI-Express 16x ports. These can be used in a number of configurations. The Crosshair IV Extreme comes equipped with the chip that has nVidia spitting nails; the Lucid Hydra.For those less informed, this is a very special feature. Ever since the dawn of Multi GPU computing, nVidia graphics cards have been forced to pair with another nVidia card - the same also applies to ATi's Crossfire Technology as well. Recently, chip designer Lucid came along and eloquently gave ATi/nVidia the middle finger with a bombshell named Hydra. This little innovation allows nVidia graphics cards to function in SLI mode on AMD motherboards but also allows ATi and nVidia graphics cards to work together.

Asus launches Lucid Hydra based Crosshair IV Extreme

With CrossLinx 3 technology, Crosshair IV Extreme users gain the ability to mix and match multiple graphics cards from both NVIDIA and ATI, including models of different GPU generations. This technology uses the Lucid HYDRALOGIX engine, which bridges various graphics cards to enable their simultaneous usage. By removing compatibility hurdles, CrossLinx 3 makes it possible to experiment with different configurations of graphics cards for maximum performance.

On Crosshair IV Extreme, a unique layout design features a total of five PCI Express expansion slots. Two provide dedicated native graphics card support for either a single GPU or two in CrossFire configuration. The additional three feature Lucid HYDRALOGIX and CrossLinx 3 technologies, which enable a mixture of graphics cards from different vendors and generations, with a total of four detectable and working at once. Users keen on tuning their system gain greater freedom to do so with the unprecedented five PCI Express slots, and the technology maintains optimized performance whether in single or multiple-GPU arrangements.

Asus Crosshair IV Extreme Review

Our comprehensive evaluation of the Crosshair IV Extreme has identified a number of the board's strengths but also a number of pitfalls. In terms of performance, it would generally appear that we are onto a winner here. During our testing, we were able to reach a peak HTT of 350MHz and the CH4E's Lucid Hydra performance proved to be very competitive. This would have been brilliant news to us had the board have launched over two weeks ago, but alas we have also spent this month working on MSI's 870A Fuzion Power Edition.

It is unusual for us to start mentioning a motherboard that is almost £100 more affordable, but its performance almost suggests otherwise. While a maximum base HTT of ~350MHz would have been impressive to us in the past, our MSI 870A Fuzion rumbled its way to a stonking 400MHz. Of course a base HTT of 350MHz is unlikely to hold any current non black edition processor, but it really is food for thought that the range topping Crosshair IV Extreme can't match it. Unlike MSI, Asus have implemented the highest specification Hydra module (LT24102), which offers three way and four way Multi GPU configurations. Our 3DMark Vantage benchmark showed the Crosshair IV Extreme gain a 1000 mark advantage over the MSI Fuzion. As a system orientated towards multiple graphics cards, it would most certainly appear that the Asus is the way to go.

Then there's the board's convenience features. Aside PCB mounted Power Toggle buttons, the board offers instant BIOS recovery, the ability to power, overclock or diagnose your system remotely and also determine graphics card faults with a switch panel. While you pay a lot for these conveniences, most of these are unique to the AMD platform. One mustn't either forget that the Crosshair IV Extreme is in essence an AMD equivalent to the Rampage III Extreme. Despite offering an identical feature set, the Crosshair IV Extreme is set to cost substantially less, which goes a long way towards offering a (like for like) VFM advantage against Intel's Core i7 platform. For many however, the concept of spending upwards of £200 on a Socket AM3 motherboard is cringe worthy regardless.

The Crosshair IV Extreme was all set to blow us all away but unfortunately, the 870A Fuzion stole some of its thunder. To summarise, if you are in the market for the world's most feature rich Socket AM3 motherboard, then this is it. So long as you can find a use for all of its mod-cons you will never be disappointed. Our suggestion? If you have the money, then go for it; just prepare to budget some noise cancelling headphones to complement the purchase.

Izvor: Guru3D i Overclock3D - 1, 2

[McG]

Elitegroup Computer Systems (ECS) introduces AMD 890GX based motherboard - ECS Black Series A890GXM-A2 supports the latest six-core CPU to bring users an impressive visual experience with its tough features. By “One-step Unlocking” function in “ECS M.I.B. III” overclocking interface, users are able to unlock the hidden cores of CPU easily, and it reaches over 238% CPU performance boosted than default setting by unlocking cores with overclocking; moreover, it is also easy to reach 146% gaming performance boosted by overclocking GPU - ATi Radeon HD 4290 graphics processor’s core clock and SidePort memory speed.

ECS A890GXM-A2 fully supports the latest AMD Turbo Core technology which is essential for power-desired users to get extra performance automatically. ECS A890GXM-A2 is also the first motherboard provides a real PCI-E Gen.2 bandwidth SuperSpeed USB 3.0 controller enhanced by a world-leading IC manufacture in Taiwan, with this perfect solution, ECS A890GXM-A2 features attractive price in the performance segment.

Izvor: techPowerUp

[KorisNick]

Jedno pitanje, dal postoji šansa da izađe 6jezgreni Bulldozer? Jer koliko vidim po linkovima, priča se samo o 4everojezgrenom, i 8jezgrenom Bulldozeru.
Koliko sam načuo, valjda će i šestojezgrene izbacit samo to još nigdje nisam službeno pročito od AMD-a.

[McG]

AMD has revealed some more details on its coming desktop processor Llano.
During a presentation at AMD Technical Forum and Exhibition in Taipei AMD's Chris Nolan said that the built-in graphics circuit of Llano will be capable of 500 GFLOPS crunching power.

The statement was made during a presentation of Llano where AMD showed how the circuit would play a High Definition video, while a multi-threaded SuperPi calculation and N-Body simulation was stressing both CPU and GPU. To get some more perspective on the number 400-500 GFLOPS that Chris Nolan, operative office and VP of AMD Computing Solitions Group, mentioned during the presentationen we can look at the table below with the current discrete offering.

AMD Llano will launch for desktops around Summer next year, which means it will take a while before we will see the circuits in any computers. We're still excited about seeing how AMD will in theory kill off the entire graphics card market in the $50 range. It is close to the theoretic performance of Radeon HD 5570, which costs around $80. There is no doubt AMD is preparing to sacrifise its budget segment of discrete graphics cards, while it forces nVidia to look over its product assortment.

Izvor: NordicHardware

[McG]

Autor KorisNick

Jedno pitanje, dal postoji šansa da izađe 6jezgreni Bulldozer? Jer koliko vidim po linkovima, priča se samo o 4everojezgrenom, i 8jezgrenom Bulldozeru.
Koliko sam načuo, valjda će i šestojezgrene izbacit samo to još nigdje nisam službeno pročito od AMD-a.

Advanced Micro Devices will start production of its code-named Zambezi central processing unit (CPU) based on the highly-anticipated Bulldozer micro-architecture in April, 2011. Initially AMD plans to release 8-core microprocessors for desktops, but later in the second quarter of next year the firm intends to launch six-core and quad-core chips based on Bulldozer micro-architecture. The first engineering samples of Zambezi chips that will be available for AMD's partners for testing will be released already in December, 2010, about a month from now. Production candidates should be ready by February and the initial production of the company's first desktop microprocessors powered by the long-awaited Bulldozer micro-architecture is scheduled to start in April next year. Probably, the launch of the chip will occur around the same timeframe.

The first Zambezi microprocessors to be launched are expected to be eight-core products with 95W and 125W thermal design power as well as 8MB L3 cache. Later in the second quarter of 2011 AMD will release six-core chips with 8MB L3 cache and four-core products with 4MB cache. All of the processors will feature TurboCore 2.0 technology, dual-channel DDR3 memory controller with up to 1866MHz memory support and will be compatible with AM3+ mainboards. Eight-core Zambezi/Orochi features four dual-core Bulldozer modules, each of which is believed to have 2MB of shared level-two cache, that will share 8MB L3 cache. In total, the whole chip will pack in whopping 16MB of SRAM, a 77% increase from the current six-core microprocessors that have 9MB of cache in total.

The Sunnyvale, California-based chip designer plans to introduce AMD 900-series chipsets compatible with Zambezi processors in Q2 2011. The Bulldozer processors, Radeon HD 6000 "Northern Islands" discrete graphics cards and AMD 900-series core-logic sets will power AMD's next-generation enthusiast-class platform code-named Scorpius.

AMD Bulldozer 2 arhitektura u rasponu od 2012. do 2016.

Izvor: X-Bit Labs

[cccp]

Wow, this article is really wrong.

First off, this is not a roadmap.

Secondly, it is not new.

This was a slide from a presentation almost a year ago in Bruhl, Germany where I presented on the "future of processing." It was a "what if" type of presentation and the voice over at the beginning of the presentation was that this is only a discussion of what could possibly happen and by no means represented any future products.

It was a theoretical discussion at best.

Posted by: JF-AMD

To je komentar John Fruehea (John Fruehe is the Director of Product Marketing for Server/Workstation products at AMD) na članak s gornjeg linka, tako da ovaj plan treba uzeti sa zadrškom.

Production candidates should be ready by February and the initial production of the company's first desktop microprocessors powered by the long-awaited Bulldozer micro-architecture is scheduled to start in April next year. Probably, the launch of the chip will occur around the same timeframe.

Sandy Bridge će prije lansiranja biti u proizvodnji par mjeseci, tako da sumnjam da će Bulldozer biti nabavljiv prije rujna ako proizvodnja počne u travnju.

Sljedeći tjedan je Analysts Day pa bi trebali saznati i nešto službenije.

Autor JF-AMD

Everyone should wait until next week and get the real answer from AMD.

[McG]

Autor cccp

Sandy Bridge će prije lansiranja biti u proizvodnji par mjeseci, tako da sumnjam da će Bulldozer biti nabavljiv prije rujna ako proizvodnja počne u travnju.

Procesori bazirani na Bulldozer arhitekturi kreću s masovnom proizvodnjom u travnju 2011., a u isto vrijeme se očekuje i službeno predstavljenje osmerojezgrenih modela. Kasnije, tj. na polovici 2011. planiraju predstaviti šestero i četverojezgrene Bulldozer procesore. S obzirom da već jedno vrijeme imaju wafere s Bulldozer procesorima i da prema ovom članku sljedeći mjesec šalju inženjerske primjerke - bili bi žešće nesposobni da im (gledajući od danas) treba skoro godina dana da ljudima ponude novu arhitekturu i nove procesore.

Tim više, jer Intel već sad ima pokrenutu proizvodnju prvih testnih primjeraka 22nm Ivy Bridge procesora koji budu die-shrink Sandy Bridge arhitekture. S tim da je Intel nove 22nm Ivy Bridge procesore isplaniral za drugu polovicu 2011. i kombinirali budu ih s novim/nadolazećim LGA-1155 pločama. AMD bude i ovak u zaostatku, točnije AMD je u zaostatku još od Intelove Core 2 arhitekture i prvih Conroe procesora, a još da im treba do jeseni 2011. da službeno predstave i lansiraju tolko najavljivane Bulldozer modele - onda mogu komotno zatvoriti vrata, jer Intel bude ih žive pojel.

[MadBoY]

"Zacate" (18W max)
AMD E-350 with AMD Radeon™ HD 6310 Graphics (dual-core CPU @ 1.6GHz & dual DX-11 SIMDs @ 500MHz)
(NOTE: SIMD = 80x total Vision Engine nano-cores for parallel computer capability and graphics)
AMD E-240 with AMD Radeon™ HD 6310 Graphics (single-core CPU @ 1.5GHz & dual DX-11 SIMDs @ 500MHz)

"Ontario" (9W max)
AMD C-50 with AMD Radeon™ HD 6250 Graphics (dual-core CPU @ 1.0GHz & dual DX-11 SIMDs @ 280MHz)
AMD C-30 with AMD Radeon™ HD 6250 Graphics (single-core CPU @ 1.2GHz & dual DX-11 SIMDs @ 280MHz)

AMD has finally allowed a few tech pubs to get their hands on Brazos-based systems and, along with feedback about their experience, the guys have come back with some added spec notes. There'll be two initial Zacate options, the dual-core E-350 running at 1.6GHz or the single-core E-240 clocked at 1.5GHz, while Ontario will offer 1GHz dual-core and 1.2GHz single-core variants. Let's not forget that both are intended for netbooks and lithe desktop computers before writing them off as too slow -- which would be a mistake anyway as the sites that got a chance to play with the E-350 reported very respectable performance. HardOCP dared to try out Crysis and managed to get it chugging along at a resolution around 720p, whereas Hot Hardware witnessed a 1080p video clip being played back perfectly smoothly alongside an instance of Hyper Pi maxing out the CPU load.

Izvor: HardOCP, Tech Report, Hot Hardware, PC Perspective

[cccp]

Bit će to prave male zvjerčice, samo da ne budu preskupe da se više isplati uzeti Llano nego njih.

[McG]

Teško da budu se uopće i mogli kupiti odvojeno, kad su namijenjeni za ugradnju u nettop, netbook, notebook i mITX računala.