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Staro 26.01.2007., 12:37   #31
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A šta je onda sa front pannelom? to se može nekako preko metične još uvijek dobiti ili ćorak?
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Staro 26.01.2007., 13:02   #32
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ćorak, koristiš za preko integruše jedino....
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evo ja danas uspio spojiti spdif na receiver kako je crn rekao.

i RADI. imao sam od prije bandbridge kabel 3.5mm na 2xrca, i mogu vam reć da mi je zvuk jedno, bez zafrkancije, duplo bolji. Čišći, bez šuma, stvarno preporod.

Ipak receiver star 5 godina bolje obradi zvuk nego jedna Live! ica...
i ovo sam samo probao na mp3-cama... sutra ću probati i original audioCD-e, te dvd filmove.. e taj me dio zanima, kako će se dekodirati dolby digital zvuk...

i jedna stvar mi nije jasna, kako će se dekodirati ac3 zvuk?
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Staro 26.01.2007., 23:33   #34
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evo ja danas uspio spojiti spdif na receiver kako je crn rekao.

i RADI. imao sam od prije bandbridge kabel 3.5mm na 2xrca, i mogu vam reć da mi je zvuk jedno, bez zafrkancije, duplo bolji. Čišći, bez šuma, stvarno preporod.

Ipak receiver star 5 godina bolje obradi zvuk nego jedna Live! ica...
i ovo sam samo probao na mp3-cama... sutra ću probati i original audioCD-e, te dvd filmove.. e taj me dio zanima, kako će se dekodirati dolby digital zvuk...

i jedna stvar mi nije jasna, kako će se dekodirati ac3 zvuk?
AC3 = Dolby Digital i ako ti ga receiver podržava dekodirat će se bez problema (bar onaj u filmovima koji je 48 kHz). Signal koji ide preko S/PDIFa nije zvuk nego podaci koje receiver interpretira i zato je važno da se signal ne procesira (npr. resamplira sa 44.1 > 48) nego samo proslijeđuje do receivera da bi ga ovaj prepoznao.
U suštini stvar bi trebala biti jednostavna... da Creative nije zasrao motku sa internim resampliranjem svega na 48 kHz. Zbog hardwerskog ograničenja EMU10K1 chipa morali su 'zaključati' clock na fiksnu vrijednost i odabrali su 48 kHz ...

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Good day. Thanks for the email.

In order to mix digital audio signals,each signal must be at EXACTLY
the
same sample rate, deviations of a few parts per million must be
eliminated.

In the design of the EMU10K1( the soundcards synthesizer chip) a single
master sample rate at which the mixer would operate had to be chosen.

The choice was between 44.1 kHz the CD standard, or 48 kHz, the
professional audio and DVD standard.

48 kHz was chosen for the following reasons:

If processing incoming audio signals at nominal 48 kHz, use of 44.1 kHz
causes lose of information.
In the preparation of 44.1 kHz CD's in professional studios today, 48
kHz is the preferred standard, with a final conversion to 44.1 kHz as
the last step.
The almost double "guard band" (the difference between 20 kHz and the
Nyquist frequency) of 24 kHz means virtually every audio process and
effect performs much better at 48 kHz than at 44.1 kHz.

If you have other queries, please let me know in next reply.

For faster service please reply with previous correspondence when
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Iako sam chip podržava i 44.1 pa ga je zato na nekim karticama bilo moguće otključati sa Kx-project driverima ali je taj projekt napušten.
Teoretski X-Fi serija ne bi trebala imati ta ograničenja ali...
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Staro 27.01.2007., 01:43   #35
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Ja li ko uspija spojit x-fi karticu digitalno sa kojim reciverom,Z-5500 ili sta vec??Evo ja upravo spojia ps2 optičkim kabelom nekim najjeftinijim sa Z-5500 i sta rec,jednostavno strava,to nema nikakve veze sa analognim zvukom preko x-fia ili audigiya kojeg sam prije ima bila to mp3ca ili original cd,sad san opet zavolia z5500,nikako mi nije bia sjea zvuk od početka kad sam ih kupia a ima vec podosta! : cheers2
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Staro 27.01.2007., 13:42   #36
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@crn - pa pop ovome ispada da je 48khz "bolje" odnosno, više raširen standard? sad sam upalio neki film koji ima ac3 zvuk, i čujem ga na zvučnike, pa pretpostavljam da ga receiver dekodira na receiveru ne piše ništa o ac3... dolby digital ofcourse da, a ja biser se na znam izraziti pismeno...

pink floyd - isti takav efekt sam ja dobio kad sam spojio sinoć preko digitalije komp na receiver... čudo koliko bolji zvuk, visoki su čudo, nema uopće šuma, ma strava. i to sve sa običnih mp3-ca...
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Staro 27.01.2007., 14:30   #37
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Ma jok Gabre, 48kHz je losa stvar. 44.1kHz je dobar. CL zvucne rade to procesiranje 44.1>48 i to je lose.
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Staro 27.01.2007., 15:49   #38
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procesira znači i kad je spojeno preko Spdif-a?
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Staro 27.01.2007., 16:12   #39
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procesira znači i kad je spojeno preko Spdif-a?
Kako sam ja skuzio, da. Jednostavno nema lijeka na ovim zvucnima sta procesiraju.

Naveo je crn zvucne koje podrzavaju 44.1kHz, pa pogledaj.
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Staro 27.01.2007., 16:16   #40
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Ja ću probati danas sa KX driverima, jel radi...
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pa ja ima drivere kx, ali ne kužim što u njima treba podesiti, ikako da saznam da li procesira na 44.1 ili 48?

s kojim materijalom?
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Staro 27.01.2007., 16:38   #42
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Nemam pojma kako je tebi na Live-ici....ne znam imaš li onu Audio Console-u?? Tamo sve namještaš....uostalom, crn ti je sve objasnio....
Ne znam niti je li što promijenjeno u KX driverima...pronjuškaj...
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pa ja ima drivere kx, ali ne kužim što u njima treba podesiti, ikako da saznam da li procesira na 44.1 ili 48?

s kojim materijalom?
Pogledaj OVAJ post, a onda i OVAJ thread da vidiš kako to treba izgledati
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And now, through intense concentration,
I am able to function in a social setting.
I can speak at length with educated people about
pertinent matters of public importance,
such as literature,
or the current political climate in Europe.

I am capable of conversing with you
without ever revealing that just underneath the surface
of this manufactured veneer
there hides an altogether different person.
A monster, some might say.
My alter-ego.
He is the opposite of the image I project.
He is the antithesis of Cool.
He is the LAST person you want to get trapped in a conversation with.

He is The Geek.
The obsessive science fiction movie watching,
comic book collecting,
Monty Python dialogue memorizing,
Dungeons and Dragons playing GEEK
that I struggle daily to keep hidden from the world.

But The Geek Wants Out.

He want to talk to you.
He wants to give you his doctoral dissertation on why
The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension
is the greatest fucking film of all time!

He wants to bitch slap you because
you’ve never seen Big Trouble in Little China.
What? Have you been living in a fucking cave?!

He wants to kick your ass in Star Wars Trivial Pursuit.
And he will.
Because he’s a fucking Geek.

And he wants his toys.
He wants the complete set
in mint condition,
still in the box.
He wants every item on the planet that is even remotely related to Ultraman.
Because Ultraman is Airwolf!

He could give a squirt of piss
about sports or politics or rhetoric.
Such things are of no consequence to him.
What matters is the release date of the next Lord of the Rings movie!

You see, The Geek can’t wait.
The Geek has no patience.
He wants what he wants when he wants it.
And all he wants is stupid shit!

He wants his own Tardis.
He wants his own light saber.
He wants to buy a DeLorean and he wants to drive it 88 miles per hour.

He wants movies.
He wants to see the Director’s Cut.
He wants the impossible to find Japanese bootleg with
6 minutes of never-before-seen footage.

He wants to watch Blade Runner. Again.
He wants to watch Brazil. Again.
He wants to watch A Clockwork Orange.
Again and Again!

But I deprive him of these things, as best I can,
until I can no longer ignore his voice
screaming in my head.

I am Jekyl. He is Hyde.
I am Bruce Banner. He is the Hulk.
Especially the Hulk from issues #272 to #378.

But no longer!
I am putting a stop to all this nerdy shit right now!
I’m an adult, for Christ’s sake!
And this body isn’t big enough for the both of us.
One of us has to go, and it’s gonna be him.
I banishing the Geek forever to the Phantom Zone,
just like in Superman II !
Because, in the end –
there can be only one.
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