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Staro 12.04.2024., 07:28   #5491
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Izbaci vodeno hlađenje i tu lovu utuci u kvalitetnije napajanje.
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Staro 12.04.2024., 10:31   #5492
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Ajde ti za pocetak nama reci namjenu racunala, max budzet i nacin placanja pa da se sklepa nesto balansirano jer ovo izgleda kao da si kupio novi autic za gradsku voznju koji ne moze ici brze od 150-160km/h na otvorenoj cesti a stavio si mu najskuplje sportske gume koje su za 320km/h i uznto točiš ložu umjesto disela u njega
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Staro 12.04.2024., 14:33   #5493
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sa hladnjakom za pocetak ti je dosta a kasnije lako kupis nekaj boljeg ak ti je do tisine (zracno do 50 Eura) i mirno more. Nije to Intel pa da ti treba klima da ga hladi

to mi kupuje klinac, pa ga kontroliram., :
sve je u instaru, valjda ce biti neka kartica na rat:-)
mozemo se malo rastegnut u euricima

vodeno je uzeo zbog tsine i boljeg hladjenja.. - u svoje vrijem sam si sam radio vodena, ali zbog overclockanja, za 667 na 999 intela. no sta nije vodeno bolje i dalje od bilo kojeg zracnog ?!?

sta fali napajanju? i ja sam mu rekao da uzme bolje napajanje, on kaze da je zbrojio GPU.CPU i ostale potrosnje i da je to dosta snage.... kakvo napajanje i zasto preporucate da bude jače ili kvalitetnije?

hvala Vam svima na pojasnjenima.

klinac ce se igrati i renderirati za 3d print.

UPDATE:
i da, paše li ovaj disk MZALQ256HBJD na moju ploču Matična ploča Gigabyte B550M K, AMD AM4, Micro ATX ?

promijenio napajanje na ovo: Napajanje Cougar Atlas 650, 650W, 80+ Bronze, ATX smo 10€ skuplje
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Staro 02.06.2024., 15:57   #5494
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Slažem komp za susjedu, malo sam ispao iz trendova svaki savjet je dobrodošao.

Procesor AMD Ryzen 5 3400G BOX 85€
Matična ploča ASROCK A520M-HDV ili Matična ploča ASROCK B450M-HDV R4.0 58€
Kućište MS Element M305 26€ -> ovo mi je još najveći upitnik, a koje god kućište budem odabrao vući će prašinu i nikotin
Memorija PC-25600, 16 GB, G.SKILL Aegis series 50€
Napajanje 450W, BE QUIET System Power 10 ili Napajanje 550W, CORSAIR CX550 70€

Cilj je CCA 300€. Iskoristio bih postojeće diskove te neki stari Dell monitor sa DSUB.

Prethodno računalo je bilo sa FM4 APU, tako da je solidno poslužilo, Otpao CPU hladnjak jučer/danas i nakon te epizode se više ne pali. Pitanje što su mu radili.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Zašto baš Links koji je najskuplji IT dućan?
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Staro 03.06.2024., 07:45   #5496
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Coconut, nije ti prihvatilo edit posta, fali tvoja konfa i te jeftinije cijene, tnx
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 95% of the world is retarded, I'm glad I am the 10%.
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Staro 03.06.2024., 08:21   #5497
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@mkey ne znam koji su trenutno diskovi, ali definitivno razmisli o tome da ubaciš neki M2
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Staro 03.06.2024., 10:35   #5498
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Dobro govori tiki66, pod obavezno još uzeti M.2 NVMe SSD,
barem min. kapaciteta za os, a neki sa 512GB ima i viška.
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Staro 04.06.2024., 20:59   #5499
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Links sam stavio iz dva razloga:

1) ima trgovina u Puli i ljudi rađe idu na vrata kada je neki problem a meni ne pada na pamet nagovarati ih drugačije. Što god da se poslije dogodi to postaje automatizmom moj problem. How yes no.

2) dok cijene jesu šarene, sastaviti nešto slično iz nekoliko trgovina bi rezultiralo nešto nižom cijenom same opreme ali i više troškova prijevoza te više problema za mene. Ta asrock ploča ima moguće neki sitan problem s dotičnim procesorom, pa neka dečki u servisu to srede Bolje oni nego ja. To i tako radim više iz usluge, malo sam prestar da se dobro iz*ebem baš svaki put.

Gledao sam mindfactory kao referencu, razlika na toj slabašnoj konfiguraciji je gotovo 50€ (većina otpada na RAM) međutim +8€ njihov shipping +12€ (barem) mailbox pa onda adje druže sastavljaj, pa nije BIOS dobra verzija, pa zašto si kupio tamo pa ovo pa ono How yes no.

Nisam išao na NVME zbog limita budžeta. Ima jedan sata SSD od prije tako da idemo sa time. Nije mi im se dalo objašnjavati šta i kako, bude to njima OK. Pogotovo što su taj SSD za staro računalo kupili na moju preporuku i to nedavno. I sada da kažem NVME je bolji onda bi kazali "a što nisi to odmah kupio" A stari komp ima FM4 ploču

Ne treba mi AI da mi kaže u kojem pravcu idu takvi razgovori, moje kretanje je od istih pod kutem 180°. Najbolje tehničko riješenje se često ne poklapa s najboljim riješenjem po vlastito mentalno zdravlje. Svo vrijeme provedeno na rješavanju idiotskih tehnčkih problema je vrijeme koje se moglo puno bolje provesti u prirodi.

Na kraju sam odabrao asrock b450M ploču te corsair napajanje. Kućište je na kraju bilo neko malo skuplje LC Power. Sve skupa s dostavom 297€, taman ispod 300.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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