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Staro 19.04.2015., 19:19   #391
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Nevjerujem šta čitam... Znači Ferrari je sabotirao vlastiti bolid samo da bi Vettel bio ispred Kimija. Logično... Vjerojatno kimiju stave i 5 vreća cementa ispod sjedala samo da bude teži...
Ni ja nevjerujem da je netko to doslovno shvatio
Ali gotovo uvjek je postojao osjecaj da se prvom vozacu posvecuje vise paznje i da su bolidi "odporniji" na raznorazne bolescine, govorimo o ferariju, naravno
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Staro 19.04.2015., 20:18   #392
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RB sa stilom kroz cilj . jebote, kako pucaju renoi, smijurija, mozes se kladiti da ce barem jedan motor ispustiti dusu .
' Bemu, sto nije stao 100 metara prije pa da Alonso osvoji bod .
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Staro 19.04.2015., 22:58   #393
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' Bemu, sto nije stao 100 metara prije pa da Alonso osvoji bod .
agreed . iako volim rikija, dobar i konkretan vozac, kao zapeo kao i alonso (ovu sezonu barem) u itekako losoj momcadi .

zamislite, kimi + riki......... e da je barem tako poslozeno, gledao bi i navijao bezbrizno za oba propeta konjica, a smijao se na svaki fail RB-a . NHF ikome, jednostavno ne volim RB, a volim ferrari (i bmw, kojeg nazalost vise nema u F1), plus par vozaca nevezano za momcad.
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Staro 20.04.2015., 07:56   #394
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Nekuzim zasto novinari i dalje pricaju da je ove godine dozvoljeno 4 motora ? Pa jel nisu dogovorili da bude ipak 5 komad akao i prosle sezone?

F1Fanatic text kaze : "Daniel Ricciardo will have to use his fourth and final Formula 1 V6 engine in Spain next month following his last-gasp failure in the Bahrain Grand Prix."
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Staro 20.04.2015., 08:14   #395
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Pregovori još traju o 5. motoru,valjda nije konačno još.
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Staro 20.04.2015., 08:22   #396
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Po Autosportu i Horneru ispadne da je to vec rjeseno/dogovoreno jos u Maleziji?

"Red Bull team principal Christian Horner has confirmed Ricciardo will move onto the fourth in Spain."All the [post-race] fireworks went off and the engine obviously wanted to join in," said Horner.
"It failed 200 metres before the line, but thankfully we had enough momentum to coast over the line.
"I think that the engine will be a coffee table in the future - that's three out of four now for Daniel.
"He'll be on engine four in Barcelona."
Ricciardo's engine situation will be improved when the agreement to allow each driver to have a fifth engine is officially rubber-stamped.
This was agreed in Malaysia, although even with a fifth V6, Red Bull will inevitably face penalties later in the year.
"We unanimously agreed on it in Malaysia, all of the teams," said Horner.
"Bernie [Ecclestone] said it only has to formally go through the Strategy Group and the F1 Commission to be signed off and that can be done by fax vote."
Horner added that, while the engine failure was a concern, he's not too worried about it provided it's not a new weakness.
"So long as it's a repeat failure and not a new failure," said Horner when asked about concerns over reliability.
"Whilst disappointing, the failures are ones there are solutions in the pipeline for."
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Staro 20.04.2015., 08:37   #397
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Staro 20.04.2015., 10:30   #398
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Mora se sastat neko povjerenstvo FIAe il tako nesto,a sad kad ce se sastat je na njima

Pitanje je hoce li prije toga eksplodirati i taj 4ti motor
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Mora se sastat neko povjerenstvo FIAe il tako nesto,a sad kad ce se sastat je na njima

Pitanje je hoce li prije toga eksplodirati i taj 4ti motor
Ma kakva FIA kakvi bakraci, ak' je Bernie reko moze to je rjesena stvari, oni su tamo cisto radi reda .

Brijem da ce do kraja sezone svi korisititi vise od 4 motora tako da bi u tom slucaju to pravilo 10 mjesta bilo ionako nebitno vecinu vremena kad bi se svi pomicali nazad po 10 mjesta, eventualno bi se malo izmjenjivali iz utrke u utrku .
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Staro 21.04.2015., 16:47   #400
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Da, zanimljivo rjesenje a i morali su nesot radikalno smislit da "stignu" ekipu koja ima sezonu vise u razvoju/testiranju.

Sve bi to islo puno brze da je moguce testirati aute u sezoni kao nekad .
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Technical insight: Honda's radical Formula 1 engine for McLaren




In the months ahead of the launch of the McLaren MP4-30, there was a huge amount of speculation surrounding the technology of the new Honda Formula 1 engine.
It's been a troubled start so far, with pre-season testing a disaster and McLaren battling to make up ground in the early flyaway races.
A lot of these reliability problems are the result of Honda trying to steal a march on its engine rivals by incorporating new and unproven technology, as, with in-season development limited, it did not want to start 2015 with a basic power unit set-up that would be hard to improve.
McLaren went aggressive with the aerodynamic concept on this year's car, and that put pressure on Honda to achieve the packaging required for the Woking team's 'size zero' dimensions.
Over the Bahrain Grand Prix weekend, the ongoing problems on Jenson Button's car allowed us to get the first clear look at the Honda unit, showing just how radical the Japanese firm has gone to achieve minimal volume with its packaging.
Honda has split its turbo, but the way it has done so is different to Mercedes, as the turbo sits within the tight confines of the 'V' of the engine, along with the MGU-H.
To fit a turbo into this space, it appears that Honda has pioneered the use of an axial flow compressor.
Rather than a large centrifugal fan, there are a series of smaller fans along a shaft.
This design spins up quicker, although it may lack the maximum possible boost, which is not such an issue in this fuel-limited formula.
Aligned on the same shaft as the compressor is the MGU-H and the exhaust-driven turbine; the latter appears to sit behind the engine and is of a more conventional design. Honda hopes to improve driveability and reduce the size of the envelope of the engine with this layout.
Above the turbo is a compact, low-line aluminium inlet plenum chamber. Inside, the inlets are turned through 90 degrees to reduce the height of the chamber, while still allowing for variable-length inlet trumpets.

More conventionally, the oil tank and MGU-K are located at the front of the engine and under the left-hand cylinder bank respectively.
Finally, and again unconventionally, the ERS module ahead of the motor combines the battery and both control electronic boxes (one each for ERS-K and ERS-H) into one unit.
This creates a lower and lighter unit that requires less space under the fuel tank area, which again aids aerodynamic packaging.
Of course, all of this tight packaging means that there's precious little space for external cooling.
All of the ERS elements will require water or oil cooling, which has led to reliability problems and Honda needing to cap power to keep temperatures under control and prevent coolant leaks via the seals around the spinning shafts.
Although Honda continues to have reliability problems, the fundamental design of the power unit is valid and will eventually become both powerful and reliable.
That will mean McLaren's aerodynamic packaging gains can be fully realised.




Posebno me vesele zadnje dvije rečenice
Zanimljivo, ali triba sacekat dok proradi, imho volio bi da Button dobije auto kakvo zasluzuje skupa s spanskom placipichkom.
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Evo jedno zanimljivo štivo o Hondinom motoru od strane stručnjaka sa Autosporta koje mogu pročitati samo pretplatnici Autosport+. Obično nemam naviku šerati te tekstove, no ovaj budem jer je zanimljiv




Technical insight: Honda's radical Formula 1 engine for McLaren




In the months ahead of the launch of the McLaren MP4-30, there was a huge amount of speculation surrounding the technology of the new Honda Formula 1 engine.
It's been a troubled start so far, with pre-season testing a disaster and McLaren battling to make up ground in the early flyaway races.
A lot of these reliability problems are the result of Honda trying to steal a march on its engine rivals by incorporating new and unproven technology, as, with in-season development limited, it did not want to start 2015 with a basic power unit set-up that would be hard to improve.
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Over the Bahrain Grand Prix weekend, the ongoing problems on Jenson Button's car allowed us to get the first clear look at the Honda unit, showing just how radical the Japanese firm has gone to achieve minimal volume with its packaging.
Honda has split its turbo, but the way it has done so is different to Mercedes, as the turbo sits within the tight confines of the 'V' of the engine, along with the MGU-H.
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Rather than a large centrifugal fan, there are a series of smaller fans along a shaft.
This design spins up quicker, although it may lack the maximum possible boost, which is not such an issue in this fuel-limited formula.
Aligned on the same shaft as the compressor is the MGU-H and the exhaust-driven turbine; the latter appears to sit behind the engine and is of a more conventional design. Honda hopes to improve driveability and reduce the size of the envelope of the engine with this layout.
Above the turbo is a compact, low-line aluminium inlet plenum chamber. Inside, the inlets are turned through 90 degrees to reduce the height of the chamber, while still allowing for variable-length inlet trumpets.

More conventionally, the oil tank and MGU-K are located at the front of the engine and under the left-hand cylinder bank respectively.
Finally, and again unconventionally, the ERS module ahead of the motor combines the battery and both control electronic boxes (one each for ERS-K and ERS-H) into one unit.
This creates a lower and lighter unit that requires less space under the fuel tank area, which again aids aerodynamic packaging.
Of course, all of this tight packaging means that there's precious little space for external cooling.
All of the ERS elements will require water or oil cooling, which has led to reliability problems and Honda needing to cap power to keep temperatures under control and prevent coolant leaks via the seals around the spinning shafts.
Although Honda continues to have reliability problems, the fundamental design of the power unit is valid and will eventually become both powerful and reliable.
That will mean McLaren's aerodynamic packaging gains can be fully realised.




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Zanimljivo, ali triba sacekat dok proradi, imho volio bi da Button dobije auto kakvo zasluzuje skupa s spanskom placipichkom.
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Staro 21.04.2015., 19:46   #402
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Zanimljivo, ali triba sacekat dok proradi, imho volio bi da Button dobije auto kakvo zasluzuje skupa s spanskom placipichkom.


buttonu osobno priznajem da je (tada) jedini znao sacuvati duze gume, te ako se dobro sjecam, dobro je prolazio dok pada kisa. dok s druge strane, nisam tocno siguran zasto spanjolska placipicka, ali taj isti alonso je itekako pokazao i dao sve od sebe unazad par godina te da je imao bolid na razini ovogodisnjeg ferrarija, bilo bi jos zanimljivije nego sto jest.


sve 5, ja isto tako smatram hamiltona nekom vrstom vjecnog razmazenog djeteta, vettela definitivno placipicka (zapravo cijeli RB skupa s njim, dok webbera i rikija NE), rosberg je rang masse, kimi legenda cim zine.......

ali button stvarno ne znam po cemu je specijalan, pogotovo kada se usporedi sa alonsom koji je barem klasu bolji i konkretniji vozac. ono sto je osvojio prvenstvno je hmmmm....... zasluzan virgin i bolid, nikako vozac .
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Staro 21.04.2015., 20:10   #403
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Button je ok lik, zato se ljudima svidja. Takav je i Kimi. Ne rade nikad sranja.

Sad kad malo bolje razmislim, Ferrari je mogao Kimija imati na prvom mjestu ili cak 1-2. Ali ne, šupak Vettel je odlucio ne pustiti Kimija na pocetku dok je bio brzi i onda se jos vozikao po pijesku, sjebao krilo i unistio sigurno mjesto na podiju.
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Staro 21.04.2015., 21:30   #404
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ovo je druga prica za vettela. vjerujem da dobar dio navijaca propetog konjica ga nije docekao veselo znajuci kakav je bio u RB-u, ali opet kazem - to je druga prica. i da, naravno da je kimi mogao cak i do hamiltona, definitivno odlican ferrari, odlican kimi, los dan vettela (jer iskreno, nije bas poznat po onakvim greskama).

nego da se vratimo, mogu ja navijati za super-duper osobu kao takvu, ali ako u smislu natjecanja ta osoba nije top, džabe ste krečili .

da budemo nacisto, nemam ja nista protiv buttona i skroz se slazem s njegovim karakterom ovo sto si napisao. isto i za webbera, kao i ricciardo. to su ok ljudi, nema tu bahatosti, nema tu snobizma, ljudi.
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Sad kad malo bolje razmislim, Ferrari je mogao Kimija imati na prvom mjestu ili cak 1-2. Ali ne, šupak Vettel je odlucio ne pustiti Kimija na pocetku dok je bio brzi i onda se jos vozikao po pijesku, sjebao krilo i unistio sigurno mjesto na podiju.
Ja sam to odmah rekao, to je Kimiju uskratilo pobjedu, ali niko nije znao da ce Kimi biti onako strasan na prime gumama.

Kimi se mora poceti bolje kvalificirati ako misli imati bolje rezultate u utrkama.
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Realno, Kimi je odvozio jako dobro dosadisnji dio sezone. Imao je odredjenih problema i probio se dosta s obzirom di je startao. Vettel je uvijek bio iza ove dvojice iz Mercedesa i vrebao prilike.

Tako da ova s boljim kvalificiranjem itekako stoji. Mozda se kasnije u sezoni pokazu tocnima one nase forumske prognoze da ce Kimi guziti kmecavca
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buttonu osobno priznajem da je (tada) jedini znao sacuvati duze gume, te ako se dobro sjecam, dobro je prolazio dok pada kisa. dok s druge strane, nisam tocno siguran zasto spanjolska placipicka, ali taj isti alonso je itekako pokazao i dao sve od sebe unazad par godina te da je imao bolid na razini ovogodisnjeg ferrarija, bilo bi jos zanimljivije nego sto jest.


sve 5, ja isto tako smatram hamiltona nekom vrstom vjecnog razmazenog djeteta, vettela definitivno placipicka (zapravo cijeli RB skupa s njim, dok webbera i rikija NE), rosberg je rang masse, kimi legenda cim zine.......

ali button stvarno ne znam po cemu je specijalan, pogotovo kada se usporedi sa alonsom koji je barem klasu bolji i konkretniji vozac. ono sto je osvojio prvenstvno je hmmmm....... zasluzan virgin i bolid, nikako vozac .
Ma button mi je drag lik, ima svoj lagani stil voznje i ne sukobljava se, zna je dostavljat dobro u utrkama.

Alonso mi dize tlak jos od vrimena Renaulta, jednostavno ne mogu podnit njegovo cmizdrenje ma koliko izvlacio iz bolida.
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Šta bi vi radili, da Vam proizvođač proda motor F1 koji u prosjeku traje 1 motor jedna utrka (Riki). Ja sam davno rekao da Renault ove godine jedino dobro plasira
lažna obećanja. RB će vjerojatno morati izaći iz ovog braka. Spominje se mogućost ulaska VW u F1, tako da će doći opet vrijeme RB-a. Ova izjava o Ferariju i Mercedesu može nekom biti smiješna, ali vjerujem da tu ima dio istine.
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Vrijeme Red Bulla sigurno neće doći, bar ne tako skoro. Osim ako se sin Adriana Neweya ostavi utrkivanja i nakon toga prebaci na dizajniranje bolida
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Vrijeme Red Bulla sigurno neće doći, bar ne tako skoro. Osim ako se sin Adriana Neweya ostavi utrkivanja i nakon toga prebaci na dizajniranje bolida
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Zbilja. Sjecam se kad sam poceo gledati F1 par godina nakon toga i kad su pricali o Njemu, a tad nisam imao nista osim Slavka Cvitkovica i ostalih mu kolega i nesto kasnije Auto kluba. Istinska velicina F1 i sporta opcenito
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Zbilja. Sjecam se kad sam poceo gledati F1 par godina nakon toga i kad su pricali o Njemu, a tad nisam imao nista osim Slavka Cvitkovica i ostalih mu kolega i nesto kasnije Auto kluba. Istinska velicina F1 i sporta opcenito
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