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Staro 30.03.2006., 20:53   #1
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Dell 2007FPW

Nevjerojatno da nisu smanjili response time.
Isti je kao na starijim modelima sto je doista razocaravajuce.
Znaci, nije bas za gejmanje.
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Staro 30.03.2006., 21:07   #2
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To je realno, a ne nevjerojatno. Viewsonic je izdao 1ms lcd, a svi znaju da njihovi pogoni koriste 12 i 16 ms panele. Pretpostavka je da i drugi proizvođaći imaju neke slične trikove, tako da je response time već odavno prenapuhani marketing...
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Znaci, nije bas za gejmanje.
Krivo... Ne treba ti monitor s bogtepitaj kak malim odzivom da bi se mogel igrati kak spada.
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Staro 30.03.2006., 22:58   #4
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Krivo... Ne treba ti monitor s bogtepitaj kak malim odzivom da bi se mogel igrati kak spada.
Slazem se da su tu ukljuceni i komercijalno/marketinski trikovi u vezi prenapuhanosti oko raznih stavki u karakteristikama, npr. kontrasti kod plazma televizora su i do 10 000:1 ili response time (npr. dosjetka da market. smanje odziv je grey to grey: nono : ), tako da je i 1 ms za sada mozda trik no ako smanje response mogu gubiti na drugim elementima slike itd itd, ....ali.....
Kupujem LCD, i htio bi za ulozeno rezultate. Jer odziv ce uskoro postati proslost - matrice su gotovo sve brze i brze. Mislim da je 12 ili 16 ms granica za pojavu ghosting-a u brzim scenama (svih oblika) pa me cudi da Dell ipak u odnosu na model 2005fpw nije spustio odziv - naravno elektronikom. Npr. Samsungov model 970p ima izvrsnu sliku i mali odziv, jer su na kvalitetnu matricu dodali elektroniku i sad imaju odlican proizvod u svim segmentima za dosta visoku cijenu, ali kol'ko para tol'ko muzike. Vec bi ga i kupio ali radije bih upogonio komp na model 16:9 (wide) tako da jos uvijek razmisljam o Dell-u.
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Staro 30.03.2006., 23:54   #5
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DELL koristi Samsung-ove matrice, tak da nemaš brige. Kaj se tiče brzine odziva, čini mi se da je GTG kod DELL-ovih monitora s većom/ogromnom rezolucijom kojih 11ms. Ako već kupuješ, tj. razmišljaš o kupnji DELL monitora najbolje ti je da odeš u Kodeks i sprobaš monitor na licu mjesta.....mislim da se neš razočaral.
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Staro 31.03.2006., 00:23   #6
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Kad je samsung napao sa bf 8ms monitorima nitko nije niti pitao je li to odaziv gray to gay ili black to white. Nazalost bilo je ono losije, ali kupcima nije smetalo , svi su slinili za tim monitorom.
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Staro 31.03.2006., 11:25   #7
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radije bih upogonio komp na model 16:9 (wide)
Ja bih si najrađe piknuo ovakvo nešto:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...monitor/1.html

Dobar monitor, mrak multimedijalne mogućnosti, možeš ga koristiti i kao TV bez uključivanja kompa.

Da sam trenutno malo "potkoženiji" uzeo bih ga ziher...
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Staro 07.04.2006., 13:04   #8
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Samo da kažem, ja sma kupio 960bf cim je izasao na trziste, 4ms RT. I to je bio u 9 mjesecu prosle godine naj naj mmonitor za igrace. I dan danas mi je žao što sam ga kupio. Em ima duhova u FPS-ima, em je slika pre užasna. Ukupno u firmi imam 4 različita tipa samsungovih monitora, i jedino ali jedino 970p ima predivnu sliku, nije presvjetla, boje su ugodne i nema duhova. Istina da je najskuplji, ali dobiješ svaku kunu nazad.

Dell ne bih kupio jer je pre skup, postoji vec neko vrijeme kod nas na tržištu lcd monitori/tv 32 inch ili 38 incha od manje kod nas poznatog proizvođača - BenQ-a, koji daje mnogo veci ekran, za istu cijenu od Della. Vidio sam ih samo izložene, i na pet minuta gledanja, nisam našao ništa posebno za prigovore.
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Staro 28.04.2006., 14:04   #9
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DEL FPW 2005 iskustva

Daklem, kao korisnik više računala s LCD monitorima iz srednje klase (NEC, SONY, ACER, DELL), mogu reći da je FPW 2005 daleeeeko najbolji (naravno da je isproban u svim mogućim uvjetima eksploatacije i trenutno je doma : goood : ). Sony sa CrystalClear ekranima ima bolji kontrast, svi noviji imaju dovoljno brze matrice, ali kad sjedneš pred kvalitetnih 20" i 1680x1050, s USB hubom na sebi, svi ostali izgledaju blijedo.
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Staro 28.04.2006., 15:20   #10
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2005fpw koristi LG.Philips S-IPS LCD matricu (ista se ugrađuje i u Apple Cinema Display) tako da kvaliteta slike nije upitna a 'ghosting' je misaona imenica - Uber monitor za igre i multimediju !
...za razliku od novog 2007fpw modela koji izgleda ima ozbiljnih problema sa DVI ulazom i prikazom boja ...
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At first glance
I probably appear to be a somewhat ordinary,
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But this is by design.
You see, it is through decades of research and rigorous training that I have crafted this façade of normalcy.

And now, through intense concentration,
I am able to function in a social setting.
I can speak at length with educated people about
pertinent matters of public importance,
such as literature,
or the current political climate in Europe.

I am capable of conversing with you
without ever revealing that just underneath the surface
of this manufactured veneer
there hides an altogether different person.
A monster, some might say.
My alter-ego.
He is the opposite of the image I project.
He is the antithesis of Cool.
He is the LAST person you want to get trapped in a conversation with.

He is The Geek.
The obsessive science fiction movie watching,
comic book collecting,
Monty Python dialogue memorizing,
Dungeons and Dragons playing GEEK
that I struggle daily to keep hidden from the world.

But The Geek Wants Out.

He want to talk to you.
He wants to give you his doctoral dissertation on why
The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension
is the greatest fucking film of all time!

He wants to bitch slap you because
you’ve never seen Big Trouble in Little China.
What? Have you been living in a fucking cave?!

He wants to kick your ass in Star Wars Trivial Pursuit.
And he will.
Because he’s a fucking Geek.

And he wants his toys.
He wants the complete set
in mint condition,
still in the box.
He wants every item on the planet that is even remotely related to Ultraman.
Because Ultraman is Airwolf!

He could give a squirt of piss
about sports or politics or rhetoric.
Such things are of no consequence to him.
What matters is the release date of the next Lord of the Rings movie!

You see, The Geek can’t wait.
The Geek has no patience.
He wants what he wants when he wants it.
And all he wants is stupid shit!

He wants his own Tardis.
He wants his own light saber.
He wants to buy a DeLorean and he wants to drive it 88 miles per hour.

He wants movies.
He wants to see the Director’s Cut.
He wants the impossible to find Japanese bootleg with
6 minutes of never-before-seen footage.

He wants to watch Blade Runner. Again.
He wants to watch Brazil. Again.
He wants to watch A Clockwork Orange.
Again and Again!

But I deprive him of these things, as best I can,
until I can no longer ignore his voice
screaming in my head.

I am Jekyl. He is Hyde.
I am Bruce Banner. He is the Hulk.
Especially the Hulk from issues #272 to #378.

But no longer!
I am putting a stop to all this nerdy shit right now!
I’m an adult, for Christ’s sake!
And this body isn’t big enough for the both of us.
One of us has to go, and it’s gonna be him.
I banishing the Geek forever to the Phantom Zone,
just like in Superman II !
Because, in the end –
there can be only one.
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Staro 21.05.2006., 19:44   #11
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- s-ips matrica je superiorna kod prikaza boja i slike opcenito, ali nije dovoljno brza, te nije preporucena za igranje

-tako npr. NEC 1980FXI koristi IPS, ali 90GX2 kojem je primarna namjena igranje, nema IPS matricu
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Staro 21.05.2006., 20:22   #12
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Ajde ne valjaj gluposti i nemoj generalizirati ...
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Gaming on the Dell 2005FPW and the Apple 20" Cinema display was really a treat. We are bombarded by "low" response time LCDs constantly, so we feel the need to always put a little bit of a warning in each display review. Attempting to quantify response times subjectively for everybody is a dangerous practice - comments like "16ms response time is fast enough for anyone" are just opinions and therefore, we don't actively preach them. We recently took a look at the Dell 1905FP, which uses a 20ms 8-bit PVA panel, and we were on the threshold of experiencing little to no motion blur. With training, we can spot what to look for between two LCDs when comparing them head to head, and when we compared the Dell 2005FPW to the Dell 1905FP, it became very clear that these displays used different display modes and different response times. It may just be our personal opinion that the Dell 2005FPW (and Apple Cinema 20") display produced a crisper display during fast motion gaming, but we should be able to infer that from some of the other things that we know about LCDs as well. Traditionally, all Super IPS displays perform "faster" than their PVA or MVA counterparts - particularly on gray-to-gray transient times.
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...uostalom imam 2005fpw već skoro godinu dana i ghosting NE postoji na ovom monitoru !
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by Ernest Cline


At first glance
I probably appear to be a somewhat ordinary,
somewhat average looking fellow.
Calm, harmless, at ease.

But this is by design.
You see, it is through decades of research and rigorous training that I have crafted this façade of normalcy.

And now, through intense concentration,
I am able to function in a social setting.
I can speak at length with educated people about
pertinent matters of public importance,
such as literature,
or the current political climate in Europe.

I am capable of conversing with you
without ever revealing that just underneath the surface
of this manufactured veneer
there hides an altogether different person.
A monster, some might say.
My alter-ego.
He is the opposite of the image I project.
He is the antithesis of Cool.
He is the LAST person you want to get trapped in a conversation with.

He is The Geek.
The obsessive science fiction movie watching,
comic book collecting,
Monty Python dialogue memorizing,
Dungeons and Dragons playing GEEK
that I struggle daily to keep hidden from the world.

But The Geek Wants Out.

He want to talk to you.
He wants to give you his doctoral dissertation on why
The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension
is the greatest fucking film of all time!

He wants to bitch slap you because
you’ve never seen Big Trouble in Little China.
What? Have you been living in a fucking cave?!

He wants to kick your ass in Star Wars Trivial Pursuit.
And he will.
Because he’s a fucking Geek.

And he wants his toys.
He wants the complete set
in mint condition,
still in the box.
He wants every item on the planet that is even remotely related to Ultraman.
Because Ultraman is Airwolf!

He could give a squirt of piss
about sports or politics or rhetoric.
Such things are of no consequence to him.
What matters is the release date of the next Lord of the Rings movie!

You see, The Geek can’t wait.
The Geek has no patience.
He wants what he wants when he wants it.
And all he wants is stupid shit!

He wants his own Tardis.
He wants his own light saber.
He wants to buy a DeLorean and he wants to drive it 88 miles per hour.

He wants movies.
He wants to see the Director’s Cut.
He wants the impossible to find Japanese bootleg with
6 minutes of never-before-seen footage.

He wants to watch Blade Runner. Again.
He wants to watch Brazil. Again.
He wants to watch A Clockwork Orange.
Again and Again!

But I deprive him of these things, as best I can,
until I can no longer ignore his voice
screaming in my head.

I am Jekyl. He is Hyde.
I am Bruce Banner. He is the Hulk.
Especially the Hulk from issues #272 to #378.

But no longer!
I am putting a stop to all this nerdy shit right now!
I’m an adult, for Christ’s sake!
And this body isn’t big enough for the both of us.
One of us has to go, and it’s gonna be him.
I banishing the Geek forever to the Phantom Zone,
just like in Superman II !
Because, in the end –
there can be only one.
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Staro 21.05.2006., 20:29   #13
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-ej, CRN
-gdje sam ja napisao da na tvom monitoru ima ghostinga
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Staro 21.05.2006., 21:23   #14
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- s-ips matrica je superiorna kod prikaza boja i slike opcenito, ali nije dovoljno brza, te nije preporucena za igranje
: stoopid - Da ne dupliram postove OVDJE sam ti već odgovorio...
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The Geek Wants OUT
by Ernest Cline


At first glance
I probably appear to be a somewhat ordinary,
somewhat average looking fellow.
Calm, harmless, at ease.

But this is by design.
You see, it is through decades of research and rigorous training that I have crafted this façade of normalcy.

And now, through intense concentration,
I am able to function in a social setting.
I can speak at length with educated people about
pertinent matters of public importance,
such as literature,
or the current political climate in Europe.

I am capable of conversing with you
without ever revealing that just underneath the surface
of this manufactured veneer
there hides an altogether different person.
A monster, some might say.
My alter-ego.
He is the opposite of the image I project.
He is the antithesis of Cool.
He is the LAST person you want to get trapped in a conversation with.

He is The Geek.
The obsessive science fiction movie watching,
comic book collecting,
Monty Python dialogue memorizing,
Dungeons and Dragons playing GEEK
that I struggle daily to keep hidden from the world.

But The Geek Wants Out.

He want to talk to you.
He wants to give you his doctoral dissertation on why
The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension
is the greatest fucking film of all time!

He wants to bitch slap you because
you’ve never seen Big Trouble in Little China.
What? Have you been living in a fucking cave?!

He wants to kick your ass in Star Wars Trivial Pursuit.
And he will.
Because he’s a fucking Geek.

And he wants his toys.
He wants the complete set
in mint condition,
still in the box.
He wants every item on the planet that is even remotely related to Ultraman.
Because Ultraman is Airwolf!

He could give a squirt of piss
about sports or politics or rhetoric.
Such things are of no consequence to him.
What matters is the release date of the next Lord of the Rings movie!

You see, The Geek can’t wait.
The Geek has no patience.
He wants what he wants when he wants it.
And all he wants is stupid shit!

He wants his own Tardis.
He wants his own light saber.
He wants to buy a DeLorean and he wants to drive it 88 miles per hour.

He wants movies.
He wants to see the Director’s Cut.
He wants the impossible to find Japanese bootleg with
6 minutes of never-before-seen footage.

He wants to watch Blade Runner. Again.
He wants to watch Brazil. Again.
He wants to watch A Clockwork Orange.
Again and Again!

But I deprive him of these things, as best I can,
until I can no longer ignore his voice
screaming in my head.

I am Jekyl. He is Hyde.
I am Bruce Banner. He is the Hulk.
Especially the Hulk from issues #272 to #378.

But no longer!
I am putting a stop to all this nerdy shit right now!
I’m an adult, for Christ’s sake!
And this body isn’t big enough for the both of us.
One of us has to go, and it’s gonna be him.
I banishing the Geek forever to the Phantom Zone,
just like in Superman II !
Because, in the end –
there can be only one.
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