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Staro 28.07.2025., 10:15   #1
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Problem s otvaranjem stranica u brovseru
Za poludit, ima par dana da imam veliki problem. Nekoliko puta u toku dana se desi da nemogu otvorit nijednu stranicu, stalno ono vrti da bi se na kraju pojavilo
This site can’t be reached
www.google.com took too long to respond.
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I tako sve stranice
Nakon restarta compa uglavnom pomogne, da bi opet nakon nekoliko sati se ponovo pojavio isti problem
I nakon toga sam nekoliko puta vršio neka mjerenja
- jačina wifi signala je 84 %
- speedtest; Download 23 mbps 7 Uploada 32 mbps
Da napomenem korisnik sam Tcoma s slijedečim podacima
brzina 500/250 mbit/s
več nekoliko dana download ne prelazi oko 23 mbps
Zna li ko u čemu bi mogao biti problem
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Staro 28.07.2025., 10:42   #2
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Najlakši prvi korak je da instaliraš još jedan browser i provjeriš kako se isti problem događa istovremena u oba.

U vrijeme kada je problem u tijeku na računalu, može li se wifi koristiti na drugim uređajima? Jesi li probao preko kabela?

Umjesto restarta računala, probaj restartati ruter (samo isključiš i opet uključiš).

Što se tiče brzine, to izgleda kao totalna katastrofa. Ne bi bilo zgoreg probati se spojiti preko kabela.
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Staro 28.07.2025., 10:44   #3
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i u to vrijeme probaš ping
tipa svog modema 192.168.1.1 ili koji več je ip
i net-a 8.8.8.8 .. googlov dns

pa češ bit možda pametniji .. di je problem .. local network ili sam net
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Staro 28.07.2025., 11:24   #4
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Zna se desiti da dns.adguard.com šteka pa je možda do toga ako to imaš podešeno.
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Staro 28.07.2025., 14:00   #5
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U svim browserima ista stvar (chrome, firefox,edge)
Inače ostalo sve radi ok, otvara brzo foldere, aplikacije, prozore itd
Evo sad sam pokrenuo drugi (mnogo stariji) laptop i sve web stranice otvara isti sekund i nikakvih problema nema
Na oba sam pokrenuo speedtest i na prvome kazuje download 31 / upload 34
a na tom drugome compu download 93 / upload 105
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Staro 28.07.2025., 14:15   #6
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Jesi li probao preko kabela na tom prvom laptopu?
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Jesi li probao preko kabela na tom prvom laptopu?
Nažalost nemam kabel
Znači sve ostalo na laptopu radi bez greške i brzo jedino taj problem s otvaranjem stranica
I zašto nakon restarta windowsa otvara stranice bez problema da bi se to ponovilo nakon par sati
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Staro 28.07.2025., 21:32   #8
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Od oka bih rekao da je nekakav problem s wifi adapterom. Obično takve stvari privremeno riješi restart ili neki oblik resetiranja samog adaptera. Nađeš adapter u network connections, disable, enable.
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Staro 29.07.2025., 11:56   #9
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Evo sam reinstalirao window 10 (s formatiranjem diska) i opet ista stvar
Nakon toga isključio sam na laptopu wifi i spojio laptop ethernet kabelom na ruter i testirao brzinu, i za nevjerovat kazuje mi
Download Mbps 543
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Tvoj citat: Nađeš adapter u network connections, disable, enable.
Daj molim te reci mi kako da dođem do tog DISABLE/ENABLE i šta treba da bude disable ili enable
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Staro 29.07.2025., 12:09   #10
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Evo sam reinstalirao window 10 (s formatiranjem diska) i opet ista stvar
Nakon toga isključio sam na laptopu wifi i spojio laptop ethernet kabelom na ruter i testirao brzinu, i za nevjerovat kazuje mi
Download Mbps 543
Upload 261 Mbps

Tvoj citat: Nađeš adapter u network connections, disable, enable.
Daj molim te reci mi kako da dođem do tog DISABLE/ENABLE i šta treba da bude disable ili enable
Zaboravi nije do toga, DNS Timeout od routera prema van. Mozes probat drugog DNS providera konfigurirat u web browseru. Firefox ti na primjer ima vec u opcijama to da mozes birat predefiniranog providera.
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Zaboravi nije do toga, DNS Timeout od routera prema van.
Preko kabela dobije dvadeset puta veću brzinu. Drugi uređaji na istom routeru rade OK. Ti kažeš problem do DNSa? Ne kužim. Troubleshooting je na ovom forumu dosta rijetko viđena vještina.

Žak, ako je isti problem i nakon reinstalacije windowsa, onda reset adaptera neće (trajno) pomoći. Ta moja enable/disable sugestija je bila alternativa restartu OSa, ne rješenje problema.

Kada ovo nađeš, onda desni klik na WiFi adapter i tamo imaš Disable/Enable ovisno o trenutnom stanju adaptera. Ali, ponavljam, to više služi tome da se izolira problem, ne da se isti riješi.



Ono što bi možda vrijedilo probati je da na stranicama od proizvođača laptopa potražiš WiFi drivere pa to instaliraš. Možda ćeš morati zabraniti windows updejtu da sam instalira drivere da ti to ne bi pregazio.

Po meni, najjednostavniji idući korak je skineš Linux Mint ISO, staviš ga na neki stick sa rufusom ili unetbootin, i konačno bootaš taj stick i vidiš kako se WiFi ponaša.
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Preko kabela dobije dvadeset puta veću brzinu. Drugi uređaji na istom routeru rade OK. Ti kažeš problem do DNSa? Ne kužim. Troubleshooting je na ovom forumu dosta rijetko viđena vještina.

Prepoznao si problem. Post #9 ove teme kaže da je kolega testirao brzinu interneta na tom priključku. To nema veze sa provjerom dali imaš DNS Timeoutove prema van ili u određene domene. Zato kažem - najprije probat normalno sa drugim DNS providerom, da se taj problem izbaci iz jednadžbe pošto je i najjednostavnije te ako u trenu kad se problem manifestira izmjenom DNS providera se stvari poprave (dakle stranice se otvaraju) onda je to problem neotvaranja stranica. Da je neznam kak sporo trebalo bi otvarat obične web stranice (pa gledala se pornjava i na 56k ). Drugo - dali bi WLAN adapter mogao biti problem? Naravno - pa i ja sam imao probleme sa Mediatekom ali na Linuxu. Dovoljno sam i star da znam određene HP lapove koji su imali slab 2.4GHz signal čak i pola metra do Routera. Treće s obzirom da mi je ili omaklo il sam ćorav ili korisnik nije napisao ali koji je laptop u pitanju i koji WLAN adapter? @Žak > Jesi probao laptop preko wlana pokraj routera testirat? I koji je router kad smo kod toga da nije neki kineski jeftikaner sa Temu-a?


Dakle rezime testova:


1. Izmjeni DNS server koji ti Web browser koristi u Cloudflare na primjer (1.1.1.1) ili bilo koji drugi (Firefox ima to jednostavno riješeno u opcijama)
2. Testiraj laptop preko WLAN-a pokraj routera


Testiraj pa javi pa bumo vidli kaj i kak dalje.
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Staro 29.07.2025., 19:47   #14
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A ko če ga razumit, nakon šta sam ga spojio s ethernet kabelom, odspojio i vratio na wifi, sad otvara sve stranice bez problema
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Staro 29.07.2025., 22:57   #15
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nekad davno sam imo problem na jednom računalu brzina je oscilirala ne sjećam se dal je bio lan ili wifi, a se sjećam da sam to rješio instalacijom zadnjeg drivera
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Staro 30.07.2025., 10:51   #16
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DNS konfigucija na ruteru ne može biti problem ako od više uređaja samo jedan ima predmetni problem.

Jedino što bi moglo biti je to da predmetni uređaj ima konfiguriran DNS mimo rutera, što u ovom slučaju ne vjerujem da je tako s obzirom da je Žak probao i reinstall windowsa na predmetnom laptopu bez rješenja problema. Tako da je i bio DNS konfiguriran na samom laptopu to je pregazio i pa to niti ne može biti problem.

Znam da brzina i sam DNS nemaju veze jedan s drugim, ali ono što ima veze samo sa sobom je to što je razlika u brzini između LAN i WLAN tako velika. To jasno sugerira da je problem ili sa WiFi na ruteru ili na laptopu.

S obzirom da je testirana brzina na drugim uređajima preko WiFi bila OK, onda to pak indicira da je problem sa WiFi na laptopu. U kojem slučaju problem može biti hardverski (sami WiFi adapter loš ili neispravan) ili pak sa driverom. Ili eventualno da je možda antena odspojena, iako nisam nikada vidio takav slučaj.

Što se tiče trenutne situacije, možda je windows update odradio posao i instalirao neki prikladniji WiFi driver?
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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