Baraccuda pitanjce

[Fleks]

Imam seagate barracudu 80gb satu i glasna je. Sad sam ja u poweru narihtal da se zgasi poslje 10 minuta. Sad to znači da se disk svako malo pali gasi. Če ga to brzo uništit.

Inače palo mi je na pameta da ga spojim na 7v da ga stišam. Kaj bi se dogodilo?:confused:

[BladeRunner]

Originally posted by Fleks
Imam seagate barracudu 80gb satu i glasna je. Sad sam ja u poweru narihtal da se zgasi poslje 10 minuta. Sad to znači da se disk svako malo pali gasi. Če ga to brzo uništit.

Inače palo mi je na pameta da ga spojim na 7v da ga stišam. Kaj bi se dogodilo?:confused:

Izvini što ti to moram reć,al koji si ti glupan .Pa nije to vent da ga možeš stavljat na voltažu koju hoćeš: giljotin : hitthewa : wtf : : nono :

[Bubba]

Originally posted by Fleks
Imam seagate barracudu 80gb satu i glasna je. Sad sam ja u poweru narihtal da se zgasi poslje 10 minuta. Sad to znači da se disk svako malo pali gasi. Če ga to brzo uništit.

Elektronika u nacelu ne voli stalna paljenja-gasenja. Nije bas baba roga i ne znaci da moras drzat racunalo vjecno upaljeno, ali palit-gasit disk svakih 10 minuta bas i nije najpametnija stvar.

Inače palo mi je na pameta da ga spojim na 7v da ga stišam. Kaj bi se dogodilo?:confused:

Hmda...

[Fleks]

Sky mi je reko da če se stišat ak ga protresem u ruci dok formatira.

To mi je reko nakon ove moje 7v ideje.

[rendula]

Originally posted by Fleks
Sky mi je reko da če se stišat ak ga protresem u ruci dok formatira.

To mi je reko nakon ove moje 7v ideje.

Ti slobodno probaš sve kaj ti padne na pamet, nitko ne odgovara za posljedice
Ja isto imam baricu 80GB, stvarno ne kužim kak se svi kunu da su nečujne

U vezi fan adaptera, javim ti se pa se nađemo prek vikenda, može?

[Bubba]

Originally posted by Fleks
Sky mi je reko da če se stišat ak ga protresem u ruci dok formatira.

I obavezno iskljucit sve LEDice u kucistu... :\

To mi je reko nakon ove moje 7v ideje.

Predpostavljam da uopce ni ne slutis kolika je magnituda bedastoce tvoje "ideje".

[spawn]

Izgleda da najbolji sata diskovi od 80 gb oni od MAXTORA. Podrzavaju Acoustic menagment i sa ATITOOLOm sam ga stisao do bola.Uopce se ne cuje a nisam izgubio performase uopce.

[rendula]

Originally posted by Bruno_Rv
Izgleda da najbolji sata diskovi od 80 gb oni od MAXTORA. Podrzavaju Acoustic menagment i sa ATITOOLOm sam ga stisao do bola.Uopce se ne cuje a nisam izgubio performase uopce.

Kod mene nije bilo tak, maxtor je bio uvjerljivo najglasnija komponenta kompa, nije se dao stišati.

[Fleks]

Rendula meni to ne stane.

[Tooma]

Originally posted by rendula
Ja isto imam baricu 80GB, stvarno ne kužim kak se svi kunu da su nečujne

u racunalu imam dvi 80GB SATA Barice i bucne su nenormalno
nedavno mi frend donese svoju baricu (takodjer 80GB SATA) da mu iskopiram neke stvari. Ta je Barica bila totalno tiha, nije proizvodila ni najmanji zvuk

vanjske vidljive razlike izmedju tih dviju barica vidljive su u attach-u

bucna barica plocicu s elektronikom ima rezanu uvijek pod 90 stupnjeva. Svi cipovi na njoj su ili okomiti ili vodoravni s diskom

tiha barica kod lezista rotora ima plocicu rezanu pod 45 stupnjeva. Na njoj je takodjer jedan cip postavljen na 45 stupnjeva u odnosu na disk

da li je ovo u pravilu razlika izmedju tihih i bucnih barica neman pojma ali ovaj put to je bio slucaj

[Trek]

vidis mozda je neka invazija "laznih" baracuda...

[Vedran]

tooma, jel su možda tvoje barice serial ata plus serije(one koje podržavaju ncq) a ova od tvog frenda ne? ako možeš pogledaj točan p/n sa tvojih i njegovih da vidiš jel ima razlike?

[Fleks]

Moja nije lažnjak jer ja dobivam iz tvornice direktno. Kad se naručuje dođe vagon i ja ne kupujem diskove u HR.

[Vedran]

ajmo ovako, svi vi koji imate 80gb sata barice napišite točan model da vidimo jel ima neke pravilnosti koji su bučni, a koji ne... koliko ja znam, postoje:

st380817as - ncq, 8mb buffer
st380013as - non-ncq, 8mb buffer
st380011as - non-ncq, 2mb buffer

[Fleks]

st380013as


dobio upravo majl od seagata:

Hello F,

In response to your questions about the seek acoustics on our Barracuda
7200.7 disc drives, please let us assure you that we continue to conform to our published seek acoustics specifications. Because our idle acoustics specifications are very low, there is a somewhat larger difference between idle and seek than some of our competitors have, which can cause the seek operation to be more noticeable to the human ear, particularly when mounted in systems which conduct audible noise or in environments with low ambient noise.

Independent reviewers continue to find these drives to be remarkably quiet. Here are some excerpts for the 7200.7 family in particular:
"Ever since the 'Cuda IV, the Seagate Barracuda ATA series has set a
standard for quiet operation. The 7200.7 series continues the trend.
"--StorageReview.com, 6/03
"Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 is a stunning product....performance and
silent operation noise raise this new Seagate absolutely one of the
best SATA drives available"--HardwareZone.com, 9/03
"Heat and Noise: In computer booting or busy writing and reading
operation, WD Raptor 360GD, Hitachi Deskstar 7K250 and Maxtor
DiamondMax Plus 9 SATA/150 120GB have obvious noise. It seems that
Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 160GB/SATA has a relatively good control on
heat and noise among the testing products."--ChinaByte.com, 9/03
"2003 Best of the Best HDD Section: Barracuda 7200.7...We believe that
its high reliability and the fact that it is the quietest disk
available are what won it support from a wide range of users." --DOS/V
Magazine, 12/03
"The 7200.7 earns points in our test lab with its convincing
combination of performance and low noise level."--Tom's Hardware Guide,
1/04
"The new Seagate Barracuda ST3200822A is extremely quiet....It scores
high marks for its scarcely audible operating noise."--PC GAMES
HARDWARE, 3/04
"Apart from high performances, the 7200.7 series is particularly
silent."--Jeux Vidéo PC, 3/04

To minimize acoustics in your situation, you may want to look at the mounting situation for your drives; many chassis designs can actually increase the overall acoustics of a system due to structure-borne acoustics induced by the interaction of the drive's vibration energy with the specific chassis. Our research has shown that structure-borne acoustics is the dominating source of disc drive-induced PC acoustics.
Chassis designers can minimize the transmission of structure-borne noise by using drive-mounting isolators (see Technical Paper 298). Here are some excerpts from another Seagate Technical Paper written to address acoustics questions:

Chassis: vibration, dampening, amplification and other structure-borne noise issues

The acoustic noise of a disc drive mounted in a chassis comes from two sources. The first source, airborne acoustics, is what all drive manufacturers currently specify as the sound power value. It is the sound that comes from the drive through the air to the observer. This value is measured with the drive suspended in space by wires.

The second noise source is generated from the drive’s vibration during idle and seek. This vibration energy is transmitted directly to the PC chassis structure and causes the chassis to act as a speaker. This form of noise is structure-borne acoustics.

When drives are mounted in a chassis (frame for a PC or other product) and enclosed in a box (plastic body of PC or other product), the vibrations that cause acoustic noise can be attenuated (reduced, muffled) or amplified. For example, the plastic enclosure tends to attenuate noise emanating from the box because it muffles airborne acoustics. The chassis, on the other hand, may pick up, redirect, or even amplify the vibrations caused by the drive, which may result in more structure-borne noise emanating from the box, or through a specific portion of the box.

Seagate has considered the total effect of drives on a PC system and can show that structure-borne noise is the dominating source of disc drive-induced PC acoustics. In fact, testing has shown that changes in stand-alone drive acoustics had little effect on the overall system acoustics when drives were hard mounted in the chassis.

We hope you find some of this information useful.

Regards,

Jimmy P.
Seagate Technical Support

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This drive prodeces to much noise. I have seen about 100 hdds like this and all of them product too much noise. Hitachi and maxtor are more silent beacose of a hdd silencing programs are being writen to reduce speed/noise. No such program exists for sata barracudas and I am disapointed with you. Is there any way to reduce noise. Fleks from Croatia ========================================================

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[Fleks]

Sorry duli post...

[spawn]

U prijevodu,covo ti je reko:

"Daj Fleks ne seri,imas reviewova po netu ko u prici i svi kazu da su tihi a ti seres da su glasni. Aj ne prdi.Pogledaj mozda ti je problem u kucistu "

Mora da je taj tip i Seagate Co nekad radio u Ve-mil-u ili Hg-spotu.

[MentalHarikiri]

Originally posted by Bruno_Rv
U prijevodu,covo ti je reko:

"Daj Fleks ne seri,imas reviewova po netu ko u prici i svi kazu da su tihi a ti seres da su glasni. Aj ne prdi.Pogledaj mozda ti je problem u kucistu "

Mora da je taj tip i Seagate Co nekad radio u Ve-mil-u ili Hg-spotu.

:clap:

i što je najbolje: vjerojatno je stvar u case-u!!

evo i moja 160Gb Ncq bara se čuje...jerbo sam ju morao izvaditi iz "oklopa" koji dolazi sa silentiumom....dok je u njemu nečuješ ništa (osim laganog krckanja kad disk radi)

"oklop" sluh čuva

[CatKiller]

Ja sam neki dan dobio Hitachi SATA 80Gb , disk je N E Č U J A N!

Nema nikakvog zujanja, ma predivno, zna malo zaružit dok radi ali i to se da rješit sa AAM softverom, odličan disk BTW to je model iz prosinca 2004. izrađen u kini...

Moja topla preporuka što se tišine tiče...

[-POP-]

Originally posted by Fleks

Inače palo mi je na pameta da ga spojim na 7v da ga stišam. Kaj bi se dogodilo?:confused:

Probaj prvo na 9.5V, mislim da će ti i to biti dosta! Čovječe, gdje si ti skupio 1000 postova?!?!?!?!

[Fleks]

Originally posted by Eddie
Probaj prvo na 9.5V, mislim da će ti i to biti dosta! Čovječe, gdje si ti skupio 1000 postova?!?!?!?!

A to je zejebancija. Elektronika radi na 12v. MIslim nisam baš tak glup...

[Bubba]

Originally posted by Fleks
A to je zejebancija. Elektronika radi na 12v. MIslim nisam baš tak glup...

Ovo je predobro...

[Fleks]

Originally posted by Bubba
Ovo je predobro...

A gle palo mi je napamet kao onak iz zejebancije da vidim kaj bi se dogodilo. Možda probam ak ču imat disk viška....

[-POP-]

Originally posted by Fleks
A to je zejebancija. Elektronika radi na 12v. MIslim nisam baš tak glup...

Vidim da si nakon ove teme naučio da radi na 12V!

[-POP-]

Kužiš, ako se zahebavaš onda staviš ! Ti si stavio :confused: pa to ne izgleda kao zahebancija! Ima na forumu svakakvih provala...

[Bubba]

Originally posted by Fleks
A gle palo mi je napamet kao onak iz zejebancije da vidim kaj bi se dogodilo. Možda probam ak ču imat disk viška....

sarcasm, n.
A cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound.

Ti stvarno ne shvatjas, jelda? Za pocetak, na kojem naponu elektronika i mehanika rade i kakav motor danasnji diskovi imaju? I da magisterij elektrotehnike nije spojiti dvije zice, staviti potenciometar i povecat voltazu u bijosu?

edit: Shvati kako hoces, no ovo je bila dobronamjerna kritika.

[Fleks]

Originally posted by Bubba
sarcasm, n.
A cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound.

Ti stvarno ne shvatjas, jelda? Za pocetak, na kojem naponu elektronika i mehanika rade i kakav motor danasnji diskovi imaju? I da magisterij elektrotehnike nije spojiti dvije zice, staviti potenciometar i povecat voltazu u bijosu?

edit: Shvati kako hoces, no ovo je bila dobronamjerna kritika.

:clap:

[-POP-]

Nešto me zanima: je li to sa 7V bila zahebancija ili ne? Jer ako nije...: bonker2

[Mailman]

da se vratimo na temu....
HDD 120.0 GB SEAGATE, 8MB cache, 7200.7 Plus..... Ima li netko iskustva s tim HDDom?

[hilander]

Neki ljudi ode imaju jako dobar smisao za humor :clap:
Nego, da li se Seagate diskovi još uvijek proizvode u Singapuru. Na jednom stranom forumu neko je rekao da je kupio Seagate koji je Made in China.