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Staro 26.05.2025., 22:23   #61
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I dalje sam šokiran kako su nam to uspjeli prodati pod AI.
Potpisujem... Ovo je cisto 'Carevo novo ruho'... Bas eklatantan primjer...

Navukli su sve top level managere pricama o tome kako ce za 5 godina sve firme imati svoj interni AI...

Sta je meni lik iz IBMa napricao o tome IBM watsonx (ne mijesati sa IBM Watson) moze, to je za nevjerovati... I ja u pocetku bio popusio pricu jer su me zaduzili da uvedem AI u firmu, no onda sam prebacio kolegi koji se je ChatGPT koristio jos od beta faze, realno bolje se kuzio u to iako sam ja jos na faksu imao dodira sa inteligentnim sustavima (fuzzy logika, neuronske mreze, geneticki algoritmi)... Htio sam koristiti watsonx za transkodiranje iz nekog cudnog programskog jezika u nes modernije, sto mi je, onako, smislena upotreba tog genAI... Ali nula bodova, nije mogao pred nekih 2 godine, ne moze ni sada...

Kolko vidim, svi se nesto trude to koristiti, neki cak i nadju relativno dobru primjenu... Recimo, Fortinet koristi genAI za pisanje konfiguracijskih skripti za firewalle i routere, eBay koristi za pisanje item descriptiona... AWSu sam u nekoliko navrata sugerirao za sto bi sve mogli koristiti Amazon Q (to je neki njihov genAI), recimo pomoc pri pisanju raznih descriptiona prilikom stavljanja produkata na AWS Marketplace... Ali realno, sve je to pomalo drek... Nekidan je jedan od top managera koji dosta koristi ChatGPT kopipejstao odgovor, nesto vezano za procjene troskova pa sam ga odmah upozorio da pripazi na ChatGPT jer barata sa krivim informacijama... Naravno da je ispalo da su troskovi koje mu je ChatGPT dao bilo jedno duplo nize od realnih troskova...

I ajd sad ti pokusaj objasniti ekipi da je to sve drek... Obicno me pitaju da li koristim placenu verziju... Pa ne, ne koristim, jer ovo sto je sada besplatno je pred pola godine bila placena verzija i tada su me uvjeravali da je to nesto najbolje na svijetu...

Pa mi onda kolega objasnjava da je nedavno Google Gemini odredio koliko se lopti dodiruje u 11. dimenziji... Onako, pa to bi mogao odrediti i neki komad matematickog softvera, ili sam barem uvjeren da bi mogao...


Uglavnom, moje misljenje - AI je evolucija, ima svoje prednost i mane... Ne pricam samo o genAI, nego AI kao disciplini...

Ono sto stvarno donosi REVOLUCIJU je kvantno racunarstvo...
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Staro 26.05.2025., 23:21   #62
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Dečki hvala na pokušajima ali navedeni filmovi nisu taj koji tražim. Gledao sam Office space i Up in the air, to veze s ovime što tražim nema nikakve. Što kaže kolega Exy, opskuran film, očito da je, iako sam ja to na TV davnih dana gledao. Moguće da su to bile one filmske večeri, što bi značilo da je to bilo svakako prije 2000te godine.

Što se tiče metoda traženja, guglo sam ja to mnogo, postavljao upite na raznim stranama tijekom godina, koristio napredno IMDB pretraživanje (satima) ali nisam uspio naći to što tražim.

Moram prihvatiti da me sjećanje vara, pa da sam krivo zapamtio te glumce, ali mnogih scena se sjećam previše detaljno da bi me lagalo sjećanje. Kako bi film mogao "nestati"? Ako zaglavi u fazi festivali pa ne bude nikada propisno izdan (kao npr. Full love/The eagle path za kojeg znam samo zato jer mi je frend fanatični ljubitelj JCVD ) onda neće niti doći na TV.

Je li se ikada dogodilo da film koji je doživio zvanično izdanje bude povučen iz nekog razloga?
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Staro 06.06.2025., 15:36   #63
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Jel mi moze netko reci za sto korisno koristi GenAI?

Fakat nikako nemrem nac nikakav smislen use case, a da vjerujem u odgovore... Najgore mi je pitati nesto da mi proceprka ako ne znam tematiku pa onda slijepo vjerujem... Znam da ce odgovor izgledati super, al bi se moglo naci nekog dreka unutra koji ce bit potpuna laz...
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Staro 06.06.2025., 17:15   #64
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AI mi je odlican za sumiranje web search rezultata i usporedni pregled npr itema po speckama i sl. stvari kad recimo ne znam koje su razlike medju itemima. Za sve ostalo mu i ovako ne vjerujem. Koristim ga i za posao, ali mu ne vjerujem. Dobro mi dodje ako baci kakvu dobru ideju pa dalje ja razradjujem tu ideju "po pravilima struke"
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Staro 06.06.2025., 21:33   #65
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Pisci koriste "AI" za dobivanje ranog drafta teksta, razradu ideja, alternativne stilske izričaje, raspisivanje istog paragrafa na razne načine i sl. U tome je sigurno dobar.
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Najčešće ga koristim za službene mailove prema stranim klijentima. Ja nabrzinu napišem mail na engleskom, a onda dam njemu da mi ga "uljepša" i prepravi da zvuči profesionalno.
Obzirom da uvijek izbacuje sranja ako ga se pita za nešto iole stručnije, izbjegavam ga pitati da radi nešto direktno nego ga tražim da mi predloži stručnu literaturu sa tom tematikom. Npr. nikad ga neću pitati da mi sam napravi proračun nekakvog rashladnog sustava nego ću ga tražiti literaturu gdje bi mogao pronaći takav primjer itd.
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ChatGPT nastrado u sahu od ATARI 2600 starog skoro 50 godina...

https://futurism.com/atari-beats-chatgpt-chess

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rober...85145856-HSP0/


E kako cu sutra s gustom obuc ATARI majicu za do ureda...
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Jesam! Al zaboravio ATARI majicu obuc budala...
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e pa to vrime šta si uštedija vozeći bajkom, sad možeš nazad po nju.
E pa da! Kad budem iso doma rucat, onda cu se presvuc! Super! Tnx na prijedlogu!
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Mene ovo baš niti ne iznenađuje. Siguran sam da bi ChatGPT pobijedio kada bi smio izmišljati vlastita pravila igre
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Nedavno iskoristio GPT kad sam trebao djetetu pomoći s matematikom, zadnji ispiti u godini. Naravno da sam pozaboravio sve to od škole/faksa
Ubacio mu PDF s primjerima zadataka, lijepo ga zamolio (na hrvatskom) da to analiza i da izvuče objašnjenje procesa i potrebne formule. Zatim sam ga tražio odvojeno hrpu sličnih zadataka za vježbu (ono doslovno samo druge brojeve da ubaci) te zasebno rješenja. Kako je bilo i nekih zadataka koje je trebalo geometrijski riješiti, tražio sam ga i to, ali u formatu pogodnom za ispis (PDF). Tek je tu na kraju skiksao, napravio je prvu stranicu ok i onda je nešto zaštekalo, javio da mu ne radi servis za generiranje takvih tipova dokumenata
Sve u svemu dosta dobro, provjerio sam to što je napravio po djetetovom udžbeniku i radnoj bilježnici i osim malo drugačijih naziva varijabli svi su postupci i rješenja bili ispravni.
Dao djetetu primjere zadataka da rješava, kasnije zajedno provjerili po rješenjima i diskutirali problematične slučajeve.
Kao "nastavniku" u ovom slučaju, recimo da mi je prištedio ponešto vremena
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Tako je i meni izgenerirao neke podatke u pdf "da mi bude lakse". Fajlovi bili velicine 0kB. Pitam ga zasto su fajlovi prazni. Kaze nesto u stilu "nemam mogucnosti eksportati u pdf". Pa nemoj me onda ebati sa "zelis li da ti to eksportam u pdf da ti bude lakse?"
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Nedavno iskoristio GPT kad sam trebao djetetu pomoći s matematikom, zadnji ispiti u godini. Naravno da sam pozaboravio sve to od škole/faksa
Ubacio mu PDF s primjerima zadataka, lijepo ga zamolio (na hrvatskom) da to analiza i da izvuče objašnjenje procesa i potrebne formule. Zatim sam ga tražio odvojeno hrpu sličnih zadataka za vježbu (ono doslovno samo druge brojeve da ubaci) te zasebno rješenja. Kako je bilo i nekih zadataka koje je trebalo geometrijski riješiti, tražio sam ga i to, ali u formatu pogodnom za ispis (PDF). Tek je tu na kraju skiksao, napravio je prvu stranicu ok i onda je nešto zaštekalo, javio da mu ne radi servis za generiranje takvih tipova dokumenata
Sve u svemu dosta dobro, provjerio sam to što je napravio po djetetovom udžbeniku i radnoj bilježnici i osim malo drugačijih naziva varijabli svi su postupci i rješenja bili ispravni.
Dao djetetu primjere zadataka da rješava, kasnije zajedno provjerili po rješenjima i diskutirali problematične slučajeve.
Kao "nastavniku" u ovom slučaju, recimo da mi je prištedio ponešto vremena
To bi i trebala biti po meni namjena ovog sto danas zovemo AI. Prikladnije bi bilo da ga se zove onim sto je (evolucija Clippy-a?) i tako i koristi. I tad ce definitivno biti benefit covjecanstvu kao sto i - recimo kalkulator.
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Staro 18.06.2025., 13:07   #76
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Tako je i meni izgenerirao neke podatke u pdf "da mi bude lakse". Fajlovi bili velicine 0kB. Pitam ga zasto su fajlovi prazni. Kaze nesto u stilu "nemam mogucnosti eksportati u pdf". Pa nemoj me onda ebati sa "zelis li da ti to eksportam u pdf da ti bude lakse?"
Vidio sam kako Google (DeepMind Labs) generira uputstva za skidanje muske kratke majice, zajedno sa slikama...

1. Sa obje ruke uhvati ovratnik - i slika tipa kako drzi ovratnik sa dvije ruke
2. Povuci majicu preko glave sa obje ruke - slika tipa kako povlaci majicu preko glave sa obje ruke
3. Maknes jednu ruku - kada je ovratnik iznad glave, njezno povuci ruku iz ramena - slika tipa bez lijeve ruke koja sada uredno stoji iznad desne ruke u zraku i povlaci majicu
4. Maknes drugu ruku - kada je majica maknuta sa jednog ramena, njezno povuci ruku iz drugog ramena - slika tipa bez obje ruke
5. Majica skinuta - slika tipa bez obje ruke ispred kojeg stoji majica iz koje visi jedna ruka
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Staro 18.06.2025., 13:15   #77
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Srecom nije mi trebalo nista tako slikovito samo maltene sumiran i eksportani chatlog s nekim proracunima i idejama - lakse za isprintati, jel...
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Solidno je napravio grafove. Ne zna baš najbolje podesiti podjelu po osima, ali ostalo je dobro. 7 stranica PDF je složio.
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Mene je počelo lagano iritirati što ljudi po raznim comment sectionima lijepe tekstove generirane od strane "AI" u nastojanju da ... budu pametni? Ili su samo lijeni napisati svojim riječima? Tko će ih znati, ali ono što ih za sada izdaje na prvi pogled je markdown sadržan u tekstu.

Biti će zanimljivo vidjeti kroz nešto godina kakvim će to podacima hraniti buduće modele. Po meni će to s vremenom biti čisti incest.
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