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Staro 06.03.2025., 15:47   #1
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Preporuka: hladan nvme disk
Ola ekipa. Zamjenio bih 1TB M.2 2230 SSD koji je dosao sa Lenovo LOQ lapom sa standardnim 2TB M.2 2280 SSD-om. E sad - performanse su bitne ali sve PCI-E 3.0 i vise je dovoljno i bitnije mi je da se ne grije ko pecnica (bar ne ko Samsung 970 Evo plus koji mi je u glavnom kompu). I naravno - da ne mirise na QLC jeftikanera . Sto uzeti, bez obzira dal doma il tu gore?
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Staro 06.03.2025., 15:50   #2
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Ja sam frendu bio za PS5 uzeo vipera. Čini se korektan disk, i ljudi ga koriste bez hladnjaka. Sad, PS5 je jedno, ozbiljna upotreba nešto drugo.

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Staro 06.03.2025., 16:24   #3
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Ovdje su raspravljali o istom pitanju > https://forums.tomshardware.com/thre...model.3805664/
#10 navodi temperature za razne modele.
Jedan od pod modela izgleda ovako unutra > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1Af_BoKeM0
Iako se radi o lapu, izmjeri udaljenosti, mooožda stane NVMe sa nekim tankim hladnjakom ... iako neće biti propuha mogao bi pomoći (ili odmoći ) da se brže ohladi nakon nekog intenzivnog rada.
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Staro 06.03.2025., 16:24   #4
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Staro 10.03.2025., 10:34   #5
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Vidjeh taj post na forumu. Ovaj SK Hynix bi trebao biti oko al su relativno skupi. Mislim da cu ici na jeftiniju soluciju i uzet jos 1x1TB za cca 50-ak Eura i piknut dodatno unutra. Naletio sam na SK hynix PC601/611 (refurbished) - dali bi ti modeli bili OK?
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Staro 10.03.2025., 11:03   #6
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Dobar ali njihovi modeli su uvijek teško dostupni.
Bilo ih je na amazon.de, a sad ni tamo nema...
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Staro 29.03.2025., 16:39   #7
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Tražim danima hladniji gen.4 i mislim da bi WD SN7100 mogao biti u rangu Hyinix P31 gen.3, ako je vjerovati testu. 59 u loadu
Samo Hynix ima još 2GB DRAM DDR4, WD je DRAM less.
WD 4 godine noviji, duplo brži i malo hladniji.


https://www.servethehome.com/wd-blac...-ssd-review/3/
Zadnje izmijenjeno od: Oldie. 29.03.2025. u 16:48.
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Staro 29.03.2025., 17:09   #8
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Ja sam na kraju se odlucio za Sandisk Extreme M.2 PCIE 3.0. U loadu ne prelazi 59 u lapu - trenutno
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Staro 29.03.2025., 17:24   #9
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Ovaj ili neki drugi, tu stoji da je gen.4


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Staro 29.03.2025., 17:32   #10
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Ovi u bazi imaju samo pro, to je neki stariji 3.0 model. 1GB DRAM.
https://www.techpowerup.com/ssd-spec...-pro-1-tb.d702
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EOL su - ja sam rabljenog uzeo. Ovaj sto novi mozes kupiti je ili Sandisk Plus PCIE 3.0 ili Sandisk Extreme PCIE 4.0

Imao sam 2 od 1 TB i znao sam da su relativno hladni naspam Samsunga pa sam ih samo iz tog razloga uzeo.


Ovo: https://documents.westerndigital.com/content/dam/doc-library/en_us/assets/public/sandisk/product/internal-drives/extreme-pro-m2-nvme-3d-ssd/data-sheet-extreme-pro-m2-nvme-3d-ssd.pdf


Ja sam dao 60 Eura za rabljenog sa 3000 sati rada.
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Staro 29.03.2025., 17:38   #12
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SK P41 Plarinum i Solidigm P44 Pro bi bio neki nasljednik od P31 Golda. Zadnjih mj dana sam trazio nesto hladno i power efficient, a P31 nema nigdje vise. Solidigm je prakticki ista stvar kao SK, kazu da su isti chipovi na njima.

Na kraju sam odustao od gen. 4 i uzeo random PM981 pa cemo vidjeti kako se ponasa. Trenutno u lapu imam SX8200 Pro i taj mi je sasvim oke i hladan (vjerojatno performansama i bolji od spomenutog Samsunga), ali su mu chipovi dual-sided i napregnut je kad ga zasarafim.
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Staro 29.03.2025., 18:59   #13
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Prati te sreća u odluci, P44 Pro je vrući za 20-tak stupnjeva od Hynix P31.

Nego se ja sad pitam bili najhladniji bio Samsung 9100 zagušen na pola brzine u PCI 4.0 slotu.
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Staro 29.03.2025., 19:13   #14
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To sam i ja mislio o P44. Nekako sam "racunao" da bi mogao biti hladniji jer u mom slucaju bi radio u gen.3 slotu.
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Staro 06.07.2025., 13:22   #15
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Gdje nabaviti? Koliko vidim nije nigdje dostupan.

Moj Kingston KC2500 2TB je izgleda počeo umirati 4 mjeseca nakon isteka garancije. Može preporuka za nešto dostupno, pci 4 (iako mi je ploča pci3, ali neka bude kada nadogradim). Nešto pouzdano, trajno, hladno. Neka srednja + klasa. Gledao sam samsung 990 pro, ali taj je vruć?
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Staro 06.07.2025., 15:17   #16
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Meni se u laptopu skroz lijepo ponasa ovaj spomenuti PM981 bez hladnjaka (kupljeno na trznici), a u usporedbi sa prethodnim SX8200 Pro (koji ima zaljepljen tanki shim/hladnjakom), temperature su im slicne. Meni je gen.3 na ploci pa nisam ni gledao na kraju gen.4.

Sta ti treba za desktop ili laptop?

P31 brijem da neces vise naci, ja nisam nasao primjere na netu da ga je netko ove godine uopce kupio pa sam ga prekrizio kao opciju.
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