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Staro 25.11.2017., 21:48   #4060
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Nadam se da nitko neće zamjeriti, ako u Ryzen info temi napišem koju riječ o svakodnevnom korištenju Ryzen platforme sa stajališta prosječnog korisnika. OC i gaming mi nisu bliski, tako da po tom pitanju stvarno nemam potrebu ganjati visoke taktove za što više sličica u sekundi. To je ujedno i razlog zbog kojeg me dojučerašnja Intel Core i3-4130 + ASRock Z87 Extreme 4 + 16GB DDR3-1333 konfiguracija, vjerno služila od kraja 2013. Nažalost, sama LGA-1150 platforma ne nudi neku cjenovno prihvatljivu nadogradnju, pa je nakon četiri godine, Ryzen došao kao naručen. Orginalni plan je (između ostalog) bila nadogradnja sa 16GB DDR3-1333 na 32GB DDR4-2400, ali zahvaljujući nemilosrdnim cijenama memorijskih čipova, dodatnih 16GB će pričekati neka malo bolja vremena. Izuzev toga, prelazak s Core i3-4130 (2C/4T) na Ryzen 5 1600 (6C/12T) i HD Graphics 4400 iGPU na GeForce GTX 1050 Ti, je sasvim očekivano bolji u svakom pogledu.

Dok HD Graphics 4400 iGPU muku muči s 4K HEVC, GTX 1050 Ti isti materijal (ko bi rekel) vrti bez ikakvih problema - zastajkivanja, trzanja i ostalih popratnih veselja. Istinabog, neka GT 1030/obična GTX 1050 bi bila i više nego dostatna za moje potrebe, ali više mi se nije dalo načekavati da neka od tih kartica bude dostupna po koliko-toliko normalnoj cijeni. Ne znam što je gore, situacija s memorijom ili grafičkim karticama. Što se operativnog sustava tiče, Windows 10 Pro je kloniran s Intel mašine, dok je Fedora 27 Workstation friško instalirana, a oba OS-a su bez nekih većih problema, prepoznala sav novi hardver. Doduše s klonirane mašine je prilikom prvog pokretanja trebalo deinstalirati sve vezano uz Intel, ali osim toga, nije bilo zajebancije s instalacijom novih AMD-nVidia drivera.
Fedora 27 Workstation je odmah prepoznala sav hardver, ali dnf update && upgrade je obavezan. Kernel 4.13 nažalost nema mogućnost ispravnog očitavanja temperatura na Ryzen platformi, tako da su ti podaci izostali. Nadolazeći kernel 4.15 će i tome doskočiti. Open-source nouveau driver za nVidia grafičke kartice radi OK, ali nema mogućnost hardverske akceleracije, tako da u tom slučaju morate posegnuti za proprietary (1 - 2) driverima. Druge popularne Linux distribucije nemaju toliko kompliciranu instalaciju, a i kad sam napokon uspjel sve podesiti - miš je otkazal poslušnost. Deinstalacija i vraćanje na open-source nouveau i miš je ponovno proradil. Nisam gubil previše vremena na tko i zbog čega ne da mišu mira. Obzirom da mi OC i gaming nisu bliski, "testiranje stabilnosti" je provjereno pomoću korištenja običnih (u usporedbi s OCCT, Prime95, IBT, RealBench, itd.) aplikacija. Iskoristil sam Fedora 27 Workstation VM, VLC koji vrti 1080p H.264 + MPC-HC koji vrti 4K HEVC Big Buck Bunny materijal, zadnje verzije Vivaldi, Firefox i Pale Moon preglednika (svaki u procesu otvaranja 30 tabova) i nekolicinu popratnih aplikacija. Ništa posebno zahtjevno, ali meni dovoljno za manifestaciju potencijalnih problema.
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Motherboard: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. ROG STRIX B350-F GAMING (BIOS version: 1001)
Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 Six-Core Processor 12 logical CPUs
Available memory (MB): 16320
Bridge	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]	Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe GPP Bridge		PCI bridge	1022:1453 1043:8747
Bridge	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]	Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe GPP Bridge		PCI bridge	1022:1453 1043:8747
Bridge	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]	Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric Device 18h Function 6		Host bridge	1022:1466 0000:0000
Bridge	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]	Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Root Complex		Host bridge	1022:1450 1043:8747
Bridge	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]			PCI bridge	1022:43B2 1B21:0201
Bridge	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]	Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge		Host bridge	1022:1452 0000:0000
Bridge	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]	Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge		Host bridge	1022:1452 0000:0000
Bridge	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]	Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge		Host bridge	1022:1452 0000:0000
Bridge	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]	Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge		Host bridge	1022:1452 0000:0000
Bridge	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]	Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge		Host bridge	1022:1452 0000:0000
Bridge	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]	Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge		Host bridge	1022:1452 0000:0000
Bridge	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]	Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Internal PCIe GPP Bridge 0 to Bus B		PCI bridge	1022:1454 1022:1454
Bridge	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]	Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Internal PCIe GPP Bridge 0 to Bus B		PCI bridge	1022:1454 1022:1454
Bridge	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]	Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 3		Host bridge	1022:1463 0000:0000
Non-Essential Instrumentation	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]				1022:145A 1022:145A
Bridge	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]	FCH LPC Bridge		ISA bridge	1022:790E 1043:8747
Bridge	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]	Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 0		Host bridge	1022:1460 0000:0000
Non-Essential Instrumentation	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]				1022:1455 1022:1455
Bridge	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]	300 Series Chipset PCIe Port		PCI bridge	1022:43B4 1B21:3306
Bridge	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]	300 Series Chipset PCIe Port		PCI bridge	1022:43B4 1B21:3306
Bridge	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]	Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 5		Host bridge	1022:1465 0000:0000
Mass storage controller	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]	FCH SATA Controller [AHCI mode]		SATA controller	1022:7901 1043:8747
Bridge	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]	Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 2		Host bridge	1022:1462 0000:0000
Multimedia controller	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]	Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) HD Audio Controller		Audio device	1022:1457 1043:8723
Bridge	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]	Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 7		Host bridge	1022:1467 0000:0000
Mass storage controller	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]	300 Series Chipset SATA Controller		SATA controller	1022:43B7 1B21:1062
Encryption controller	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]	Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Platform Security Processor		Encryption controller	1022:1456 1022:1456
Serial bus controller	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]	300 Series Chipset USB 3.1 xHCI Controller		USB controller	1022:43BB 1B21:1142
Bridge	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]	Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 4		Host bridge	1022:1464 0000:0000
Serial bus controller	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]	FCH SMBus Controller		SMBus	1022:790B 1043:8747
Display controller	NVIDIA Corporation	GP107 [GeForce GTX 1050 Ti]		VGA compatible controller	10DE:1C82 3842:6251
Serial bus controller	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]	Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) USB 3.0 Host Controller		USB controller	1022:145C 1043:8747
Bridge	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]	Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 1		Host bridge	1022:1461 0000:0000
Multimedia controller	NVIDIA Corporation	GP107GL High Definition Audio Controller		Audio device	10DE:0FB9 3842:6251
Za razliku od ASRock Z87 Extreme 4 ploče, ASUS ROG Strix B350-F Gaming nema dual-BIOS, on-board debug LED, power, reset i clear CMOS tipke. Daleko to toga da mi je super bitno, ali bilo koja imalo opremljena ploča (pogotovo u 2017.) bi IMHO takve stvari trebala imati po defaultu. Makar kad bolje pogledam, dobar dio novijih (1 - 2) ploča ne dolazi sa svime u kompletu, uz jasno nekolicinu mainstream i high-end izuzetaka. Samim time, Strix B350-F Gaming ne nudi mogućnost ručnog podešavanja CPU Core napona, tj. nudi se Auto i Offset, koji pak ima + i - opciju i to je to. U mojem slučaju za Offset je postavljen -, CPU Core LLC na Regular, dok su EPU i Global C-State Control uključeni. Podaci u HWiNFO su zabilježeni tokom "testiranja s običnim aplikacijama". Ne sumnjam da bi OCCT, Prime95, IBT, RealBench i društvo, cjelokupnu situaciju digli koji nivo više, ali ne zamaram se s tim, jer mi na kraju dana ništa ne znači super stabilan npr. OCCT, ako se cijela stvar sruši prilikom pokretanja primjera radi MPC-HC + HEVC + madVR kombinacije.

Zadnje izmijenjeno od: The Exiled. 10.01.2018. u 21:45.
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